The Art Abbott and Vern Bates Fiasco

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Paul Tulla

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 12:10 AM

Subject: CHRISTIAN GREETINGS

Dear Ron,

Many Christian greetings from Tanzania, East Africa. Thank you for your recent e-mails. I have been able to pick some materials that can help me in my case. However, I want to know about this website and his operator(s)—Spirit of Prophecy Vindicated (sopvindicated.org). It seems that the author is attacking you as a self proclaimed prophet. Besides, he states that the only authentic SOP is before James White died. After his death, Uriah Smith was used by Satan to destroy what Ellen G. White wrote. On top of that, he accuses W. C. White as an agent of the Devil in destroying his mother’s work. I have read a lot of his post. Can you kindly tell me about this man and what he believes? In his comments, he directs his readers to Let There Be Light Ministries, SDApostasy.org. I know of these ministries that they are Trinitarian in beliefs (Robert Sessler and Nikolas Patula). Is he also a Trinitarian?

Waiting to hear from you.

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Beaulieu

To: Paul Tulla

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 1:09 PM

Subject: Re: CHRISTIAN GREETINGS

Dear Paul,

The owner of the Website is Art Abbott. Art used to support my ministry. He left the church, but his wife Debbie would not leave it. She left him instead. She found Vern Bates and Vern convinced her that my message would not be supported by Ellen White's early works because the 1858 Great Controversy did not have the quote about the destruction of Jerusalem being a PREFIGURE, p. 25 in the 1911 edition.

Art chose to return to his wife and the church after consulting with Vern Bates and being told by Bates that my message was false. My message can be substantiated from the Bible alone in Ezekiel 5:9, because God does the worst thing He ever does at the end-time. And as we know, the church is full of abominations.

Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Mat 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Mat 19:30 But many [that are] first shall be last; and the last [shall be] first.

The quote is in the 1884 edition of The Great Controversy, p. 26, the 1888 edition, p. 26, and the 1911 edition p. 25. So just because this statement was not in the 1858 edition, Vern Bates says my message on Ezekiel 9 cannot be supported from Ellen White's writings. Here is the statement that is not in the 1858 edition:

"The prophecy which he uttered was twofold in its meaning: while foreshadowing the destruction of Jerusalem, it prefigured also the terrors of the last great day." The Great Controversy, p. 25.

Vern Bates rejects any of Ellen White's other than the very early ones which he can find original copies of. For example, Testimonies, Vol. 5, the first part of which was written in 1882, Vern rejects. Vance Ferrell says Vern Bates rejects 9/10ths of the Spirit of Prophecy.

Vern Bates told Debbie what she wanted to hear and Debbie told Art, her husband what he wanted to hear so he could get her back with him and so he could return to the church. So Art has to reject me and call me a self-appointed false prophet.

Here is what Vance Ferrell says about Vern Bates: Go to page 149 at this link and begin at the paragraph that appears below in red print: http://spiritofprophecydefend.com/DefendingSpirit-Prophecy.pdf

"THE ONCE-ONLY ERROR

(2) The error that God only writes once on a given subject:

Vern Bates, a leading Ellen White skeptic at this time, claims that once a prophet writes on a topic, anything he may later write on that topic will not be inspired. Therefore, Ellen’s later writings on a given subject are worthless. This theory involves two errors: first, the error mentioned above, that of word inspiration—the idea that God directly dictates each word and it cannot later be altered. (The truth is thought inspiration;"

More Vance Ferrell on Vern Bates:

http://www.sdadefend.com/MINDEX-B/The%20Teachings%20of%20Vern%20Bates.pdf

http://www.sdadefend.com/MINDEX-B/V-bates-teach.pdf

What a foolish virgin notion by any who think that God would give us the Spirit of Prophecy that the church might be in unity until He comes, only to have about 9/10ths of it perverted so that it is not reliable! That is the position of one Vern Bates and Art Abbott. Imagine God letting that happen all in one century while the Bible was preserved by Him for two thousand years plus!

God has shown me that Vern Bates does not want to teach the truth about the church’s apostasy because no member of the church would then buy the early works by Ellen White which he publishes and sells to as many church members as he can convince of his errors. Now it appears that Art Abbott is publishing only the early E.G. White materials (up to James White’s death on August 6, 1881 ONLY) and selling them.

Art falsely charges me with teaching reincarnation because I teach regeneration showing how God keeps Philadelphia through the time of trouble, Revelation 3:10-12. Ellen White says that only the 144,000 enter the Temple on Mt. Zion, Early Writings, p. 19. In Rev. 3:10-12, the Philadelphians of circa first century Christians were told they would be made pillars (leaders) in the Temple and that they would be kept through the time of trouble. So God, not Ron Beaulieu, teaches regeneration, whereby the 144,000 are the second, third, fourth etc., etc., etc., born after Christ was the firstborn of those who will make up His body, His bride. The bride of all generations is regenerated into a body to live at the end-time and be translated without seeing death. This also answers to Ellen White’s food for worms statement written in 1856, to wit:

“I was shown the company present at the Conference. Said the angel: “Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus.”—Testimonies For The Church 1:131, 132 (1856). {LDE 36.3}

By the principle of Regeneration, Ellen White’s statement is indeed true, though the youngest person at that meeting would now be 156 years old.

Reincarnation is Satan’s counterfeit for regeneration. Regeneration is no more strange than Christ having raised many from the grave at His resurrection to witness to the gospel. Art has committed unpardonable sin by attributing my Holy Spirit given vision on regeneration to be of Satan and constituting me a false, self-appointed prophet. Many others have done likewise and many will do so in the future.

The first man to have a vision on regeneration was J. Wilfred Johnson, who died a member of the church and was a Professor at Canadian Union University College. Mr. Johnson said that he would not rule out a need for separation of the faithful. He said he went through my first Omega Journal “with a fine toothed comb” in 1986, and that he could not fault it on one point. I advocated separation in that Journal.

Mr. Johnson thought that he could inform a lot more people by being a member of the church, but that never proved to be the case. A lot of folk make that same mistake. It is impossible to give all the truth in the apostate SDA church for the simple reason that all the truth includes a separation message based on Isaiah 37:31, 32, Ezekiel 9, and Ezekiel 22:17-31.

J. Wilfred Johnson was a first elder of the College Church for over 40 years. God showed me his vision was true. It is a dangerous and fallacious thing to try to discount something as empirically true as Revelation 3, message to Philadelphia, vis-à-vis how first generation Christians of the church of Philadelphia could be made pillars in the Temple and kept through the time of trouble, when they died millenniums ago and Ellen White said only the 144,000 who are translated without seeing death go into that Temple on Mt. Zion.

All blessings,

Ron