An
Appeal to Ron From A Person he Has Witnessed to For About Three Years
Click to go to our Home PageDear Reader, This is a document that contains an appeal
to me by a person I have been witnessing to for about three years now. My
response is interlined beneath his statements. The person THINKS that I have never
considered his statements. I have scores of times and I do in this document.
I weigh all statement and interpret so that nothing contradicts. However, he
has never attempted to reconcile my statements with his very “selected
statement” and every time I ask questions regarding my statements he refuses
to answer and/or says that my questions are satanic. So I just give my
statements by themselves and ask for his interpretation and he refuses to
tell me that as well. Some people are just determined to interpret as they
see fit. Babylon is full of such individuals. Dear ________, This is a detailed response to your
"Final Appeal to Ron," and to whoever wrote it. If someone else
wrote it, please submit this response to them. I will insert my comments
under theirs in navy blue
print. I may be wrong, but I believe that you
did not write the below post and that you are under the hypnotic spell of the
person who did. Would you tell me who wrote it? It has none of your
characteristic misuses of the comma. The style simply is not yours. Whoever
wrote the appeal, is very ignorant of all the ways and means by which Ellen
White said that the church could become a sister to fallen Babylon, and any
ONE of them would qualify the church as such. Sincerely, Ron Now here is the Appeal to Ron made by a
person who desires to remain anonymous for whatever reason. I will designate
his sections by the words: Appeal to Ron. Appeal to Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: An anonymous (Name deleted) Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: [SDAIssues] Final Appeal to Ron Dear Forum, Ron responds: It certainly is A FALSE
UNDERSTATEMENT to say that there is only apostasy IN THE SDA CHURCH rather
than BY THE SDA CHURCH LEADERS. Those leaders are in apostasy by the
following violations of God's Word and the Spirit of Prophecy: One gospel is taught by men like Elder
Dennis Priebe, Vance Ferrell, the Standish Brothers, Ron Spear, Pastor Larry
Kirkpatrick and some others, while a diametrically different gospel is taught
by the liberal faction that now controls the church and that faction of
leaders teaches that because of Original Sin, we cannot overcome all sin this
side of glorification. That runs counter to the Bible and the Spirit of
Prophecy. Ellen White clearly says that we can overcome every propensity to
sin and indeed must do so. The Bible says that God is the author of salvation
unto all who obey Him. Would Jesus and His disciples have taught a false
gospel along with the true? God said to accurse ANYONE who should come to us
with another gospel, even an angel, to wit: Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be
accursed. Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach
any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. [Accursed
as used in these verses means anathema. We are to have nothing to do with
anyone who comes to us with another gospel, let along joining their
organization and supporting them]. Notice: 2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into
[your] house, neither bid him God speed: Apostasy #2: The adoption of Babylon’s
false doctrine of Original Sin, that teaches we cannot overcome all sin this
side of glorification. The above two apostasies ALONE,
constitute unpardonable sin after knowing the truth. Without any other
apostasy they demand separation from any church, and sanction the
anathamizing of the New Movement SDA church and not joining its New Movement,
New Organization. We were not to join ANY New Movement, let alone one that
returns to the false gospel of Babylon and its doctrine of Original Sin, after
knowing the true gospel as taught by SDA pioneers and the gift of prophecy
through the person of Ellen G. White. So on this score ALONE, the church has
committed unpardonable sin, and we are not to even pray for it as a body. But
as in the days of Shiloh, and the Jews to whom Jeremiah wrote, there was a
faithful remnant who separated from the prevailing apostasy, to wit: "The recreant priests added
licentiousness to the dark catalogue of their crimes yet they still polluted by
their presence the tabernacle of the Lord, and, laden with sin, dared to come
into the presence of a holy God. As the men of Israel witnessed the corrupt
course of the priests, they thought it safer for their families not to come
up to the appointed place of worship. Many went from Shiloh with their peace
disturbed, their indignation aroused, until they at last determined to offer
their sacrifices themselves, concluding that this would be fully as
acceptable to God, as to sanction in any manner the abominations practiced in
the Sanctuary." E.G. White, The
Signs of the Times, vol. 1, p. 264, col. 3, December 1, 1881. "The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition
that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and
that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as
the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were
this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth
that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed.
The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty
years would be accounted as error. A NEW ORGANIZATION would be established.
Books of a NEW ORDER would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy
would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities,
and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as
also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of
the NEW MOVEMENT. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice,
but GOD BEING REMOVED, they
would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is
worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest
would sweep away the structure. Who has authority to begin such a [NEW] movement? We have our
Bibles, we have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the
Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not
repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth? E.G. White, Selected Messages, Vol. 1, 204, 205. Nothing could
change our religion more than a false gospel, for the gospel is what the
mission and commission to the church is all about! It is all about Jesus and
what He did for us by way of being our SUBSTITUTE AS WELL AS OUR EXAMPLE. The
Babylonian false gospel taught by New Movement Adventism teaches the
substitute only. That is a half gospel. That is anathema to what Christ did
for us by way of example in overcoming. Ellen White says that we can overcome
every propensity to sin by the very same means Christ did—the empowerment of
His Holy Spirit indwelling us. There is nothing more fundamental than the
gospel of Jesus Christ. That has been changed by the majority of the
leadership and the rest are corporately responsible for supporting the change
by their membership and sacred tithe support. What other
fundamentals have been changed? The Sanctuary message, which Ellen White said
was a pillar doctrine, has been questioned and dumped by many leaders who
should all be teaching the same thing—TRUTH ONLY. The 7 day creation week has
been challenged to the point that about half of the church disbelieves in the
Bible version. This is Omega of Apostasy blasphemy, and especially so for a
church that ONCE knew and practiced the truth. This is a betrayal of sacred
trust. So in all these areas of apostasy, New Movement Adventism has
“returned to the iniquities of its forefathers, the fallen churches of
Babylon,” re: Jeremiah 11:9-15. This, my friend is unpardonable apostasy
because when God says to no longer pray for something it is UNPARDONABLE!
That is how He designated His line in the sand regarding Israel’s apostasy,
and their entire record is recorded for our example unto whom the end of the
world is come. The above is
all that the church would have to violate to commit unpardonable sin and
remove God. All the following is just frosting on the cake of Omega Apostasy,
which Ellen White prophesied would surely develop and wax stronger until
Jesus comes, to wit: "One thing it is certain is soon to be realized, the great
apostasy, which is developing and increasing and waxing stronger, and will
continue to do so until the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout. We
are to hold fast the first principles of our denominated faith, and go
forward from strength to increased faith. Ever we are to keep the faith that
has been substantiated by the Holy Spirit of God from the earlier events of
our experience until the present time. We need now larger breadth, and
deeper, more earnest, unwavering faith in the leadings of the Holy Spirit. If
we needed the manifest proof of the Holy Spirit's power to confirm truth in
the beginning, after the passing of the time, we need to-day all the evidence
in the confirmation of the truth, when souls are departing from the faith and
giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. There must not be
any languishing of soul now." (E.G. White, Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7, p. 57). Apostasy #5: The church invites Roman
Catholics to its General Conference Sessions which are supposed to be the
voice of God to the church. Ellen White would croak over this alone. This is
an abomination. It is the very same thing as inviting Satan’s ambassador to
THE voice of God session to the church? What fellowship hath Christ with
Belial? That type of apostasy regarding the
marriage act, is in contravention to God's Holy Word and His commands
concerning divorce. All this makes the SDA church a sister to fallen Babylon,
to wit: This infraction alone (above) constitutes
the church being a sister to fallen Babylon, especially in light of all the
related facts above. This statement makes it clear that the church could and
has become a sister to fallen Babylon in ways other than ONLY the false
doctrines that are taught by Babylon. Apostasy #10: Church leaders, no less
than a General Conference President, Neal C. Wilson, said that the creation
of the world probably took from 11,000 to 13,000 years. About 50% of the New
Movement SDA church no longer believes in the seven day creation week. Apostasy #11: Ellen White said that if the church remained Laodicean, THIS
ALONE, would make the church the cage of every unclean and hateful bird, to
wit: "If the church of God becomes LUKEWARM [LAODICEAN] it does not
stand in favor with God any more than do the churches that are represented as
having fallen and become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul
spirit and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Those who have had
opportunities to hear and receive the truth, and who have united with the
Seventh-day Adventist church, calling themselves the commandment keeping
people of God, and yet possess no more vitality and consecration to God than
do the nominal churches, will receive of the plagues of God just as verily as
the churches who oppose the law of God." E.G. White, Letter 35, 1898. This is language strictly reserved to
define Babylon and its harlot daughters in Revelation 18:2. The above
statement was written 109 years ago as of 2007. The church militant is still
Laodicean. Ellen White said that ONLY THE PRESENCE OF GOD can constitute a
church and that God's presence is not in Laodicea, to wit: "God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it
the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is
the people who love God and keep His commandments. 'Where two or three are
gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them' (Matt. 18:20).
Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the
presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone
constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey
the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate
place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city enclosed in prison
walls." E.G. White, The Upward
Look, 315. However, the
presence of God is not in the Laodicean church: "The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of God is not
in her midst." E.G. White, Notebook
Leaflets, p. 99, 1898. "The
state of the Church represented by the foolish virgins, is also spoken of as
the Laodicean state." E.G. White, Review and Herald, 8/19/1890. "To the end of time, the presence of the Spirit is to abide with
the true church." E.G. White, Acts
of the Apostles, p. 55. Where is the
true church? Those who love God and keep His commandments and that includes
Isaiah 8:9-14. God's people will be broken in pieces for violating those
commands, and the marginal reading for slaughter weapon in Ezekiel 9:2, is:
"a weapon of his breaking in pieces. Isaiah 8:9-15 defines the violation
and penalty, as does Ezekiel 9. "Those who think
that the church militant is the church triumphant make a great mistake."
E.G. White, The Upward Look,
152. "God
has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national
establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who
love God and keep His commandments. 'Where two or three are gathered together
in my name, there am I in the midst of them' (Matt. 18:20). Where Christ is
even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the
High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where
two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus
there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the
wilderness, in the city enclosed in prison walls." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 315. Apostasy #12:
Ellen White prophesied that the Omega of Apostasy would surely develop and
wax stronger until Jesus comes. Ellen White said
that the leaders of the House of Jacob, those who had been blessed with great
light, would NEVER AGAIN show the House of Jacob its sins. How does a
reformation occur without that leadership? 5T 211, based on Ezekiel 9, p.
207. · Ellen White said that the leaders would
betray sacred trust and teach only peace and safety, 5T 211. · Ellen White said that at the time when the
danger to the church was greatest, the time of the National Sunday Law, that
its MEMBERS would be doing after the manner of the world, while a small
company standing in the light would not. 5T 209-210. · Ellen White called A.D. 70 a PREFIGURE
symbolizing the destruction of the world, but would begin at His
Sanctuary, the House of Jacob, those who had been privileged with great
light. 5T 211. It is Adventist who are the House of Jacob and who have had
great light presented to them. A.D. 70 was a fulfillment of Ezekiel 9. · Ellen White said that Ezekiel 9 would be
literally fulfilled again. She said that in 1909, to wit: "Study the 9th chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally
fulfilled yet the time is passing, and the people are asleep. They refuse to
humble their souls and to be converted. Not a great while longer will the
Lord bear with the people who have such great and important truths revealed
to them, but who refuse to bring these truths into their individual
experience. The time is short. God is calling will YOU hear? Will YOU receive
His message? Will YOU be converted before it is too late? Soon, very soon,
every case will be decided for eternity. Letter 106, 1909, pp. 2, 3, 5, 7.
(To "The churches in Oakland and Berkeley, September 26, 1909.)" E. G. White Manuscript Releases Volume
One, p. 260. The
same author of Ezekiel 9, says in Ezekiel 22:17-31, that the tares (dross) is
gathered into the midst's of the church for burning and melting. That is
precisely what occurred in the last manifestation of Ezekiel 9 in A.D. 70. So
it will be in the antitypical next LITERAL FULFILLMENT. The church has fulfilled every specification of 1SM 204-5,
forming a new movement--new organization, that has "removed God." "The
plain straight testimony must live in the church, or the curse of God will rest
upon His people as surely as it did upon ancient Israel because of their
sins. God holds His people, as a body [corporately], responsible for the sins
existing in individuals among them." Testimonies,
vol. 3, p. 269. Corporate
Responsibility--"The church cannot measure herself by the world nor by
the opinion of men nor by what she ONCE was. Her faith and her position in
the world as they NOW ARE must be COMPARED (JUDGED) with what they would have
been if her course had been continually onward and upward. The church will be
weighed in the balances of the sanctuary. If her moral character and
spiritual state do not correspond with the benefits and blessings God has
conferred upon her, SHE WILL BE FOUND WANTING." Testimonies, vol. 5, pp.
83, 84. Apostasy #13: The SDA church went
Babylon’s Celebration Movement looking for the Holy Spirit. Compare this with
Israel’s apostasy in Jeremiah 11:9-15, when they did evil, they rejoiced,
CELEBRATED, verse 15. Apostasy #14: The SDA church accepted the
Accreditation Standards of the World in the early 1930’s. By those criteria,
it is now being forced to teach the world’s curriculum in its educational
facilities. Apostasy #15: Ellen White prophesied that
there would be a modern-day COUNTERPART to apostate Israel. There is only ONE
CHURCH that qualifies as a “chosen people,” and who claim to keep all the
commandments of God, Sabbath and all, as did the Jews so claim, and that
church is the professing, New Movement, apostate, Seventh-day Adventist
church: NOTICE ELLEN WHITE’S APPLICATION OF
JEREMIAH 11 in the following statement. Am I remiss in doing the same?! COUNTERPART:
"The Lord commanded one of his ancient servants, 'Pray not thou for this
people [Jer. 7:16 and 11:14], neither lift up cry nor prayer for them neither
make intercession to me for I will not hear thee.' The prophet thus describes
the sins which had called forth this fearful denunciation: 'The prophets
prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means and my people love
to have it so and what will ye do in the end thereof?' 'From the least of
them even unto the greatest of them, every one is given to covetousness and
from the prophet even unto the priest, every one dealeth falsely. They have
healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace,
peace, when there is no peace.' The apostles declare that this state of
things will find its COUNTERPART in the last days. Many have a form of
godliness, but in their daily life deny the power thereof. They have ceased
to be convicted of their sins or alarmed at their state. They say in their
hearts, 'The church is flourishing. Peace and spiritual prosperity are within
her borders.' The words of the prophet may well apply to these
self-deceivers, 'They have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth
in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring
their fears upon them." E. G. White, Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, 11-07-82. COUNTERPART:
"In the time of the Saviour, the Jews had so covered over the precious
jewels of truth with the rubbish of tradition and fable, that it was
impossible to distinguish the true from the false. The Saviour came to clear
away the rubbish of superstition and long-cherished errors, and to set the
jewels of God's word in the framework of truth. What would the Saviour do if
he should come to us now as he did to the Jews? He would have to do a similar
work in clearing away the rubbish of tradition and ceremony. The Jews were
greatly disturbed when he did this work [As are SDAs today!]. They had lost
sight of the original truth of God, but Christ brought it again to view. It
is our work to free the precious truths of God from superstition and
error." E.G. White, Review
and Herald, vol. 2, 308. There is a
modern COUNTERPART to the ancient apostate "chosen people" of God.
That modern COUNTERPART is the people who claim to be the modern "chosen
people" of God, the remnant, if you will. There are
over 100 statements to the affect that SDAs are repeating the history of ancient
Israel. Here are just a few of them: "I have
been shown that the spirit of the world is fast leavening the church. You are
following the same path as did ancient Israel. There is the same falling away
from your holy calling as God's peculiar people. You are having fellowship
with the unfruitful works of darkness. Your [ecumenical] concord with
unbelievers have provoked he Lord's displeasure. You know not the things that
belong to your peace, and they are fast being hid from your eyes. [The very
words applied to fallen Israel on page 17 of The Great Controversy] Your
neglect to follow the light will place you in a more unfavorable position
than the Jews upon whom Christ pronounced a woe." Testimonies, vol. 5,
pp. 75-76. "Like
ancient Israel, the church has dishonored her God by departing from the
light, neglecting her duties, and abusing her high and exalted privilege of
being peculiar and holy in character. Her members have violated their
covenant to live for God and him only. They have joined with the selfish and
world-loving. Pride, the love of pleasure, and sin have been cherished, and
CHRIST HAS DEPARTED. His Spirit has been quenched in the church. Satan works
wide by side with professed Christians yet they are so destitute of spiritual
discernment that they do not detect him." E.G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 2, pp. 441-442. "Among
the professed followers of Christ, there is the same pride, formalism,
vainglory, selfishness, and OPPRESSION, that existed in the Jewish
nation." E.G. White, Sketches from
the Life of Paul, 251-252. "God's
professed people are selfish and self-caring....They are idolaters, and are
worse, in the sight of God, than the heathen, graven-image worshippers who
have had no knowledge of a better way." Testimonies, vol. 2, 441-442. Am I remiss
in observing (reasoning) that worse than heathen, graven-image worshippers,
means worse than Babylon? Especially after knowing the truth and a knowledge
of a better way! If I am how and why? and if I am I apologize. By the above
statement it is flattery, presumption, and patronization error to refer to
the apostate SDA church as Babylon! No, let it not be said by one Tom Cusack
that Ron Beaulieu believes the church is Babylon! I concur with Ellen White
that God's professed people are worse than Babylonian heathen “The Testimony
For The Church—The
Laodicean Church—What greater deception can come upon human minds than a
confidence that they are right when they are ALL WRONG?” Testimonies, Vol. 3, pp. 253, 254. Worse than Catholic idol worshippers because
anything that replaces Christ is an idol and a false gospel is the worst of
all idols! Worse than the great Whore! Why? Because they had the light of
truth and have willfully united with the great whore in business partnership!
Ellen White said we are never to unite with unbelievers in business
partnership, let alone the great Whore of Babylon! "Now it
is just EXACTLY as in the days of the Jews. When a message came in, why all the
power of the leaders [such some leaders on this forum] WAS PUT AGAINST IT,
THAT IT SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE. Now, brethren, GO TO GOD FOR
YOURSELVES, and on your knees plead with God...If God sends us light, let it
come to us, and let no man close the door, or try to close it. Don't close it
yourselves. Open the door of your heart and let the brilliant rays of light
shine into your heart and into your mind. I pray you, let the Sun of
Righteousness in." E.G. White,
Manuscript Release #900, Manuscript 9, 1890. 1888 Materials, p. 541. "The day
of God is right upon us, and the world has converted the church. Both are in
harmony, and are acting upon a short-sited policy" E.G. White, General
Conference Bulletin, 1st Quarter, 1900. "The leaven
if godliness has not entirely lost its power. At the time when the danger and
depression of the church are greatest, the little company who are standing in
the light will be sighing and crying for the abominations that are done in
the land. But MORE ESPECIALLY will their prayers arise in behalf of the
church because ITS MEMBERS are doing after the manner of the world."
Testimonies, vol. 5, 209, 210. Ron responds: True enough! It now has no
reason to exist. Because it will not only cross land and sea to make its
converts twice the children of hell, by teaching them a false gospel and
implicating them via corporate responsibility, in all the other omega
apostasies enumerated in this documentation. Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is
made, ye make him twofold more the child
of hell than yourselves. Omega Countdown Ministries is far from
the only ministry that is a spokesperson teaching that the SDA church is in
apostasy. There are legions of them around the world. It is manifest neophyte
stupidity to assert that there is only apostasy IN the church rather than the
fact that the church leadership, the General Conference, is in apostasy
because it has spearheaded all of the apostasies mentioned in this
documentation. Also, the person making the appeal to me
is either totally ignorant or wantonly dismissive of the reality of thorns,
OPEN SIN AND SINNERS, in the church and not just tares, who are defined by
Ellen White as insincere believers whose motives we would have to judge in
order to uproot them. Open sin was always to be put out of the camp. We are
told to take the example of Moses in response to the apostasy. What did Moses
do? He had all the apostates killed before he prayed for the people the next
day. Is that what folk are advocating when they chide us to take the example
of Moses? I am certainly not advocating that course. I am advocating Christ’s
and ever true reformers response to apostasy! Separate from it. Come out from
the corrupt, open sinning THORNS who make it impossible for the wheat to
remain pure and to mature. "Thorns
sprung up.--The thorns made it impossible for the wheat to mature (see Luke
8:14). In the same way secular interests prevent the fruits of the Spirit
(Gal. 5:22, 23) from reaching maturity. Religion is relegated to the
subordinate position of being only one interest among many. For lack of
cultivation it withers and eventually dies. That which the thorny-ground
hearers lack is a moral transformation (E.G. White, Christ's Object
Lessons, p. 50). To them,
justification is the sum and substance of religion, and they fail to realize
that the Christian life consists essentially in the process known as
sanctification--the process by which evil traits and tendencies are replaced
by the perfect life-pattern of Jesus Christ." Seventh-day Adventist
Bible Commentary, vol. 5, 405. This is
precisely what New Movement Seventh-day Adventists (Selected Messages, vol. 1, 204-205), teach—that forensic
justification is all that is essential to salvation, and that sanctification
as it pertains to overcoming all sin this side of glorification, is an
impossibility, as fostered by Babylon’s doctrine of Original Sin. That
heinous doctrine was originated by St. Augustine, who was such a compulsive
sinner that he invented the doctrine to appease his conscience. That doctrine
filled the coffers of Rome with indulgence payments because it encouraged
sinning and then the sale of indulgences to “buy” God’s pardon. It fills the
coffers of apostate Adventism also, in other round-about ways, that have made
worldly accredited education a god for the purpose of earning more filthy
lucre and then the members can give more to the church. Ellen White said the open sin should be
separated from the church and that it is impossible to remain pure while
uniting with the corrupt and apostasy is corruptness! Teaching a false gospel
that one cannot overcome sin, makes it impossible for the people to mature
into non-sinning disciples of Christ. Whosoever
transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He
that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. If
there come any unto you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into
your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is a
partaker of his evil deed." 2 John 9-11. "It is impossible for you to
unite with those who are corrupt, and still remain pure. (II Corinthians
6:14, 15 quoted). God
and Christ and the heavenly host would have men know that if he unites with
the corrupt he will become corrupt." E.G. White, Review and Herald, Vol. 4, p. 137. "Men in
responsible positions are uniting with those in the church and out of the
church, whose counsel is misleading." Testimonies, vol. 8, p. 69. "We have
a testing message to give, and I am instructed to say to our people, 'Unify,
unify.' But we are not to unify with those who are departing from the faith,
giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. With our hearts
sweet ad kind and true, we are to go forth to proclaim the message, giving no
heed to those who lead away from the truth." Selected Messages, vol. 3,
p. 412 Series B, No. 2, p. 47. "To
divide our interests with the leaders of error is aiding the wrong side and
giving advantage to our foes. The truth of God knows no compromise with sin,
no connection with artifice, no union with transgression." Testimonies, Vol. 4, p. 81. "Between
the worldly man and the one who is faithfully serving God, there is a great
gulf fixed. Upon the most momentous subjects,--God and truth and
eternity,--their thoughts and sympathies and feelings are not in harmony. One
class is ripening as wheat for the garner of God, the other as tares for the
fires of destruction. How can there be unity of purpose or action between
them?" E.G. White, Review and
Herald, "But
while we are required to be Christlike toward those who are our enemies, we
must not, in order to have peace, cover up the faults of those we see in
error. Jesus, the world's Redeemer, never purchased peace by covering
iniquity, or by anything like compromise. Though His heart was constantly
overflowing with love for the whole human race, He was never indulgent to
their sins. He was too much their friend to remain silent while they were
pursuing a course which would ruin their souls--the souls He had purchased
with His own blood. He was a stern reprover of all vice, and His peace was
the consciousness of having done the will of His Father, rather than a
condition of things that existed as the result of having done His duty."
The Upward Look, 220. "To
secure peace and unity they [the reformers in context] were ready to make any
concession consistent with fidelity to God but they felt that even peace
would be too dearly purchased at the sacrifice of principle. If unity could be secured only by the
compromise of truth and righteousness, then let there be difference, and even
war." E.G. White, The
Great Controversy, p. 45, 1911 edition. Ellen White said what God would do if the
church betrayed sacred trusts. Who is the author of the appeal to me to try
to contravene this statement by Ellen White: "The Lord Jesus
will always have a chosen people to serve Him. When the Jewish people
rejected Christ, the Prince of life. He took from them the kingdom of God and
gave it unto the Gentiles. God will continue to work on this principle
with every branch of His work. When a church proves unfaithful to the
work of the Lord, whatever their position may be, however high and sacred
their calling, the Lord can no longer work with them. Others are then chosen
to bear important responsibilities. But, if these in turn do not purify
their lives from every wrong action, if they do not establish pure and holy
principles in all their borders, then the Lord will grievously afflict and
humble them and, unless they repent, will remove them from their place and
make them a reproach. God is not
'worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing' (Acts 17:25). E. G. White, The Upward Look, 131. Who are THE OTHERS THAT ARE CHOSEN?
They are a small remnant of the church who go out of Jerusalem, Isaiah 37: 31,
32, just as a faithful remnant went forth out of Jerusalem in the PREFIGURE
of A.D. 27-70 and during Jeremiah days of Shiloh. One of the most cherished errors of
the professing SDA church is that God NEEDS THAT CHURCH to give the Loud
Cry. That is a diabolical lie. Ellen White just told us (above) that God
does not NEED anything. The Loud Cry will be given by 144,000 literal
faithful saints, and many will respond to their call and be martyrs for their
stand. Only the 144,000 will be translated without seeing death. God does it
all by His Spirit and not by the might and power of
the apostate Seventh-day Adventist church militant. Zec 4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying,
This [is] the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might,
nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.
Appeal to Ron: Ron responds: What could possibly be more poisonous,
deceptive, and offensive to God, than a false Gospel which denigrates the
greatest good, crowing gift of Christ, His Holy Spirit Divine Nature gift of
grace for obedience, Rom 1:5, and 2 Peter 1:4, for the purpose of overcoming
all sin? What could be more abominable than to teach as the gospel the lie
that the Divine Nature of Christ is not powerful enough to overcome Original
Sin in our lives? Why is it that SDA's comfort themselves
thinking they can imbibe all manner of apostasy except a few Babylonian
doctrines, and remain the bride of Christ? Professing Seventh-day
Adventists make an eternal mistake in concluding that the church must teach
all of the above doctrines in order to become a sister to fallen Babylon. The
Jews, our ENSAMPLE, did not teach those doctrines, yet both Judah and Israel
became harlots of the Synagogue of Satan and were destroyed in A.D. 70,
Chapter 1, The Great Controversy. Everything that occurs in that chapter is a
PREFIGURE, p. 25, that will be literally fulfilled again said Ellen White. Which is worse? Teaching the above
doctrines, or teaching Babylon’s false gospel which totally betrays what
Christ did for us by way of EXAMPLE. The SDA church is actually corporately
responsible for ever Babylonian doctrine cited above because it pays large
annual dues to the National Councils of Churches of Babylon. I called Butler,
who was the Treasurer of the General Conference in 1988, and asked him how
much the church gave that year to the NCCUSA that year. He gave me a figure
of over $8,000. Fund Babylon and you fund its doctrines and thereby are
responsible for their proliferation! I use the example that if I were a
member of the church of Satan in San Francisco, and gave them financial
support, I would be responsible on both counts—membership and financial
support. This same principle applies to New Movement Adventism because it is
a member of Babylon’s Ministerial Associations, and many of its National
Councils around the world. I have a Directory of Christian Councils,
published by the WCC, which lists SDA’s as MEMBERS of the WCC in 5 countries
of the world and as being in “working relationship with the General
Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, p. 244. It lists SDA’s as MEMBERS of
the World Council of Churches in the following countries of the world: Belize, p. 100. Hong Kong, p. 63. Cook Islands, p. 189. Sweden, p. 158. Bahamas, p. 99. Hungary via the Council of Free Churches.
The Adventist Review admitted in
the 1980’s that it had been a member of that council for over 30 years!
Fifteen-hundred members revolted and they were barred from their churches on
Sabbath mornings by body guards. Then SDA leaders lie to you about their
membership in the World Council of Churches, its National Councils, and its
Ministerial Associations, which, according to a PhD official at the Canadian
Council of Churches, is a local arm of the WCC. SDA leaders lie about this strictly
forbidden in the Word fraternity with Babylon. But the Bible says that they
will divine lies: Eze 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the
prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not
be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing
of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and
ye shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD. Do they consider themselves prophets? The
leaders that is? Oh yes! B.B. Beach told me over the phone that I had better
be careful how I spoke to the prophets, referring to himself! My wife was on
the other phone line and heard him say it, so I do have a witness. One
definition of a prophet is a representative of God. They are supposed to be
representatives of God! But they lie to the laity and they are believed as
spokesmen for God. SDA’s are no different than the members of fallen Babylon.
When I have witnessed to many of them, many have responded in essence,
saying: “What you say sounds reasonable and logical, but I will have to ask
my pastor and I will do what he says!” SDA’s do the same thing regarding they
lying prophet leaders. One SDA lady in Lacombe, Alberta, told me
that she was going to Ireland, and she would stop by the SDA headquarters and
ask the leaders if they are members of the WCC, National Councils and
Ministerial Associations. She did so and when she got back from Ireland, she
told me that I was wrong because the leaders said they were not involved.
What to do! Go figure! I showed her the book Directory Christian Council,
which I purchased from the World Council of Churches, listing SDA’s as
Members in five countries and in WORKING RELATIONSHIP with the General
Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, and she just shrugged her shoulders and
walked away! She did not want to believe the truth about her fallen church.
Most SDA’s don’t, just from a social club perspective! They would rather
maintain the status quo and not rock the boat, than embrace truth and be
saved. That is selling one’s soul for a pot of pottage. Appeal to Ron: Ron responds: How can we highly esteem
the judgment of dumb-dog watchmen who will NEVER AGAIN show the House of
Jacob their sins, 5T 211? How can we highly esteem the judgment of men who
have committed the church to such gross apostasy? How can we esteem the
judgment of men who teach a false gospel when God says to ACCURSE EVEN AN
ANGEL who should come with another gospel? Ellen White says EXACTLY when and when not to esteem
the judgment of the “regular lines,” the leadership of the church. The
neophyte writer of the appeal to me, is totally ignorant of or unwilling to
accept the CONDITIONS for esteeming the judgment of the leaders of the
church. Here are the statements: Regular lines—“So often
the same old difficulties arise and are presented in regard to disturbing the
‘regular lines.’ But God will work in some way to make His people understand
that THE REGULAR LINES HAVE BECOME FULL OF IRREGULAR PRACTICES…God alone can
make men understand that working on REGULAR LINES has led to IRREGULAR
PRACTICES. God alone can make men’s
minds as they should be. The time has
come when we should hear less in favor of the REGULAR LINES. If we can GET AWAY FROM THE REGULAR LINES
into something which, THOUGH IRREGULAR, IS AFTER GOD’S ORDER, it may cut away
something of the IRREGULAR WORKING which has led away from Bible
principles.” E.G. White, Manuscript Release, #1450, p. 3, 4,
1901. “When we see the regular
lines are altered and purified and refined, and the God of the heavens mold
is upon the regular lines, then it is our business to establish the regular
lines.” E.G. White, Spaulding-Magan Collection, p. 162-168. “The present showing is
sufficient to prove to all who have the true missionary spirit that the
regular lines [organization] may prove to be a failure.” E.G. White, Spaulding-Magan Collection, p. 175. Written to Brother Daniels, June 28, 1901. “The regular
lines had need to be broken as a potter’s vessel is broken, and
reconstructed.” Ms. 29, 1903. pp.
1, 3 (General Manuscript, The Southern Work, undated. Concerning giving ONE of His servants an
experience independent of and contrary to the church itself, how did things
begin in the Adventist movement? Did it not begin with one individual,
William Miller? Was each of the Biblical messengers ONE PERSON against the
apostate establishment? Truth is, there is not ONE PERSON involved the true
Reformer SDA cause. If there was indeed ONLY ONE PERSON, ONE SDA, in the
world, taking a stand independent of the church without any of the above
grounds whatsoever, that is what Ellen White’s statement quoted by my
appealer (above) means. But there are thousands the world over who see the
apostasy and a correct response to it. Ron Beaulieu is not the only person
who sees the Omega of Apostasy and a correct response to it. Jeremiah 11:9-15
gives that correct response. What happens when the truth of the following
statement becomes a reality? "The Lord
Jesus will always have a chosen people to serve Him. When the Jewish people rejected
Christ, the Prince of life. He took from them the kingdom of God and gave it
unto the Gentiles. God will continue to work on this principle with every
branch of His work. When a church proves unfaithful to the work of the
Lord, whatever their position may be, however high and sacred their calling,
the Lord can no longer work with them. Others are then chosen to bear
important responsibilities. But, if these in turn do not purify their
lives from every wrong action, if they do not establish pure and holy
principles in all their borders, then the Lord will grievously afflict and
humble them and, unless they repent, will remove them from their place and
make them a reproach. God is not
'worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing' (Acts 17:25). E. G. White, The Upward Look, 131. What happened in the Reformer cause in
every succeeding generation since Christ’s withdrawal from the apostate
church of Israel? Did Christ withdraw? Did Paul? Did they withdraw into home
churches? These questions are answered forthrightly as follows: "Christ
was a protestant...The Reformers date back to Christ and the apostles. They
came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies.
Luther and his followers did not invent the reformed religion. They simply
accepted it as presented by Christ and the apostles." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 2, 48, col. 2.
"And as they
persisted in their rejection of the gospel the apostle (Paul) went into the
synagogue, and spake boldly for the space for three months, disputing and
persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God. But when divers were
hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude,
he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the
school of one Tyrannus." Acts, 19:8, 9. The Omega of Apostasy
New Movement, New Organization, masquerading as Seventh-day Adventism,
rejects the LIGHT AND LIFE of Jesus Christ, by teaching a false gospel about
His life and what that life achieved for us by way of EXAMPLE. Will the
ecclesiastical leaders of the church hear the truth of what they have done as
given them by the true reformers? Nay! They will not hear it. They dub our
warning rubbish and satanic! Now I would like you to see from the above Ellen
White statement, and never forget, that the rejection of the light and life
of Jesus Christ, was the ONLY reason listed in her statement as to why every
true reformer ever left the church of his/her fathers. She does not mention
ONE BABYLONIAN DOCTRINE—other than that substance which would constitute
rejecting the light and life of Jesus Christ, and a false gospel certainly
meets those criteria more than anything else one could violate! Why?
Because the true Everlasting Gospel was God’s mission and commission to the
Seventh-day Adventist church, and the teaching of a false gospel totally
betrays that sacred trust. That is when the above Desire of Ages statement
and the following statement become totally apropos: "The Lord
Jesus will always have a chosen people to serve Him. When the Jewish people
rejected Christ, the Prince of life. He took from them the kingdom of God and
gave it unto the Gentiles. God will continue to work on this principle
with every branch of His work. When a church proves unfaithful to the
work of the Lord, whatever their position may be, however high and sacred
their calling, the Lord can no longer work with them. Others are then chosen
to bear important responsibilities. But, if these in turn do not purify
their lives from every wrong action, if they do not establish pure and holy
principles in all their borders, then the Lord will grievously afflict and
humble them and, unless they repent, will remove them from their place and
make them a reproach. God is not
'worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing' (Acts 17:25). E. G. White, The Upward Look, 131. Where do we
go? Home Churches! Preparatory to Ezekiel 20:34-38, the Wilderness. Act 13:1 Now
there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers;
as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and
Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the
tetrarch, and Saul. Rom 16:5
Likewise [greet] the church that is in their house. Salute my well beloved
Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ. Phm 1:2 And to
[our] beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellow soldier, and to the church in
thy house: 1Cr 16:19 The
churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the
Lord, with the church that is in their house. Col 4:15
Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which
is in his house. 1 Corinthians
14:26 describes an early church meeting, in which everyone present shared in
providing hymns, instruction, revelation, tongues, or interpretation. 1Cr 14:26 How
is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm,
hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation.
Let all things be done unto edifying. Act 14:23 And
when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with
fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed. Act 14:27 And
when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all
that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the
Gentiles. 1Pe 5:13 The
[church that is] at Babylon, elected together with [you], saluteth you; and
[so doth] Marcus my son. Rom 16:1 I
commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is
at Cenchrea: Col 4:16 And
when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church
of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the [epistle] from Laodicea. 1Cr 1:2 Unto
the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ
Jesus, called [to be] saints, with all that in every place call upon the name
of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: Ellen White on Home Churches in the Alpha
of Apostasy in Battle Creek—Separation in the Alpha of Apostasy Ellen White
advocated separation of the youth from the church in Battle Creek, in the
Alpha of apostasy. What would she do in the Omega when the apostasy is as
broad reaching as the world church? When the young men and women were kept
away from the Alpha of apostasy in the church, what did they do where did
they meet for worship? "There
is a little hope in one direction: Take the young men and women, and place
them where they will come as little in contact with our churches as possible,
that the low grade of piety which is current in this day shall not leaven
their ideas of what it means to be a Christian." E.G. White, Manuscript Release #995, p. 5. "Brother
and sister Haskell have rented a house in one of the best parts of the city,
and have gathered round them a family of helpers, who day by day go out
giving Bible readings, selling our papers, and doing medical missionary work.
During the hour of worship, the workers relate their experiences. Bible
studies are regularly conducted in the home, and THE YOUNG MEN AND YOUNG
WOMEN connected with the mission receive a practical, thorough training in
holding Bible readings and in selling our publications. The Lord has blessed
their labors, a number have embraced the truth, and many others are deeply
interested." Review and Herald,
September 7, 1905, Evangelism, p. 108. The Prescribed Mode of Worship Service "There
are times when it is fitting for our ministers to give on the Sabbath, in our
churches, short discourses, full of the life and love of Christ. But the
church members are not to expect a sermon every Sabbath....Let the church
members, during the week, act their part faithfully, and on the Sabbath
relate their experience. The meeting will then be as meat in due season,
bringing to all present new life and fresh vigor.. When God's people see the
great need of working as Christ worked for the conversion of sinners, the
testimonies borne by them in the Sabbath service will be filled with power.
With joy the will tell of the precious experience they have gained in working
for others." Testimonies, Vol.
7, p. 19. The above
scenario is the prescribed mode for the worship service of every Seventh-day
Adventist church in Testimonies,
Vol. 7, pp. Notice: Appeal to Ron: The financial support of these rogue
organizations comes, not only from their own earnings, nor only from the
offerings of church members, but also from tithes. Some of their publications
redefine the "storehouse" to be any instrument of God that is
proclaiming "unadulterated present truth." The influence of such
literature is to encourage members to redirect their tithe away from the
Church "storehouse," and to invest it instead with these New
Movement apostate ministries. Ron responds: 1. The person making the appeal to me is charging the
True Reformers as being the New Movement, but Ellen White said that the New
Movement would take place “AMONG” the church, within the church, 1SM 204-5.
That is what occurred in the Alpha. 2. Is the storehouse an imposter New Movement that
teaches a false gospel to the world rather than the true Everlasting Gospel,
that includes KEEPING God’s commandments, Rev. 14:12, and removing oneself
from Babylon’s fellowship with Belial? 3. Is the storehouse a new movement whose watchmen will
NEVER AGAIN show God’s people and the world their sins? 5T 211. 4. Is the storehouse a new movement that teaches only
peace and safety? 5T 211? 5. Is the store house a new movement whose MEMBERS will
be doing after the manner of the world when the danger to the church is
greatest—at the time of the National Sunday Law? And it is doing so now. 6. Is the storehouse an Omega of Apostasy New Movement
that will wax stronger in omega apostasy until Jesus comes? 7. Is the storehouse an Omega of Apostasy New Movement
that has gone to Babylon searching for the Holy Spirit via the Celebration
movement, which has its roots in Babylonian Pentecostalism and Vatican II? Appeal to Ron: Omega
Countdown Ministries and associates pride themselves in their profuse use of
the writings of Ellen G White to support their teachings. But they select
statements that seem to support themselves, while disregarding other
statements in which activities such as theirs are clearly condemned by Ellen
G White. Her overriding support of the organized Seventh-day Adventist Church
is intentionally ignored by Omega Countdown Ministries and associates, or explained away as
irrelevant for us today. 1. Ellen White never gave OVERRIDING SUPPORT
to the teaching of another false gospel that the church is teaching to its members
and the world, rather than the Everlasting Gospel that teaches that the
commandments can be kept, Revelation 14:12. 2. Ellen White never gave OVERRIDING SUPPORT
to a church that would return to the iniquities of its forefathers by
teaching their false gospel. Ellen White did not support such unpardonable
sin that God says not to even pray for. 3. Ellen White never gave OVERRIDING SUPPORT
to worldly accreditation so that our educational facilities would be forced
to teach the curriculum of the world. She said it would be better to close
them down! 4. Ellen White never gave OVERRIDING SUPPORT
to having a divorce rate commensurate with the world. She said in essence
that such a state would make the church a sister to fallen Babylon. 5. Ellen White never gave OVERRIDING SUPPORT
to a church that would remain Laodicean for decades after her death, and
which has now descended into cold apostasy, and is no longer LUKEWARM. 6. Ellen White never gave OVERRIDING SUPPORT
to the Omega of Apostasy, which she prophesied would surely develop and wax
stronger until Jesus comes. 7. Ellen White never gave OVERRIDING SUPPORT
to the carnival type celebration movement which she prophesied would come
into our campmeetings JUST BEFORE THE CLOSE OF PROBATION. 8. Ellen White did make the following prophecy
concerning the future outcome of the SDA church militant, which coincides
with her statement that Ezekiel 9 will be LITERALLY fulfilled again: “The watchmen
upon the walls of Zion should be the first to catch the tidings of the
Saviour's advent, the first to lift their voices to proclaim him near, the
first to warn the people to prepare for his coming. But they were at ease,
dreaming of peace and safety, while the people were asleep in their sins.
Jesus saw HIS CHURCH, like the barren fig-tree, covered with pretentious
leaves, yet destitute of precious fruit. There was a boastful observance of
the forms of religion, while the spirit of true humility, penitence and
faith--which alone could render the service acceptable to God--was lacking.
Instead of the graces of the Spirit, there were manifested pride, formalism,
vainglory, selfishness, oppression. A BACKSLIDING CHURCH closed their eyes to
the signs of the times. God did nor forsake them, or suffer his faithfulness
to fail but they departed from him, and SEPARATED THEMSELVES from his love.
As they REFUSED TO COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS, his promises were NOT
FULFILLED to them." E.G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, vol.
4, pp. 199-200 [The 1884 edition of The Great Controversy, NOT TO BE CONFUSED
WITH TESTIMONIES, VOL 4]. It should be very apparent to all that the person appealing to
Ron is guilty of everything he accuse me of. He/she has taken very select
statements that seem to support the apostate church, while disregarding all
the other statements that I have supplied. That person has been given all my
counter statement for more than three years now, but will not reconcile them
with his “selected statements.” I have addressed everyone of his statement,
but he has refused myriad times now to address mine. Why? Because he cannot
do so and maintain his position. He refuses to interpret all the evidence so
that nothing contradicts, and Ellen White and reason dictate that this is the
only way we can KNOW that we are not in error. So, he/she is in gross error.
I say he/she, because I believe the person was possibly assisted by one
Ulicia Ulrike Unruh, who also refuses to resolve all these issues so that
nothing contradicts. She regularly “selects” that which supports the church
because her husband is one of the dumb-dog watchmen (SDA pastors—Isaiah
56:10-12) here in British Columbia, Canada. So she has a real conflict of
interest to protect! Appeal
to Ron: All agree that there is serious need for revival and reformation in
God's Church, but the methods used by Omega Countdown Ministries and
associates have produced dissonance instead of reform. When assessed by their
fruits, Omega Countdown Ministries and associates has done nothing but to
carry forward Satan's plan of reducing the Adventist in to splinters as was
revealed to Roger Morneau. The Church is not perfect, but there is wisdom in
listening to its advice. We appeal, in Christian love, for a turn of heart
and purpose that will bring Omega Countdown Ministries and associates into
full unity with the body of Christ, the Remnant Church. Ron responds:
There will NEVER be a serious revival and reformation in God’s church except
for the Holy Spirit impressing the devout seekers for truth to separate, as
will occur in all the fallen churches. This accrues for the following reasons: 1. Ellen White said that the Omega of Apostasy
will surely develop and continue until Jesus comes. 2. She said that the dumb-dog watchmen will
NEVER AGAIN show the House of Jacob its sins. That would be entirely
necessary and requisite to any revival and reformation. 3. Ellen White said that the leaders are in
unbelief and peace and safety, 5T 211 and Isaiah 56:10-12, where they say in
essence, eat, drink and be merry and tomorrow will be better than today. 4. Ellen White said that the leaders will be
bringing every uncouth thing into OUR (SDA) Campmeetings just before the
close of probation. That has already occurred. There has already been
shouting, loud rock music, and lewd theatrical dramas all on Sabbath. I have
a video produced by a MEMBER of the church who is an engineer. 5. If there ever was a serious revival and reformation
of the SDA church militant, there would be no need of another LITERAL
FULFILLMENT of Ezekiel 9. 6. Ezekiel 22:17-31 would have to be rewritten. 7. Isaiah 37:31, 32 would have to be rewritten, and
remember that Ellen White said that all the ancient prophets wrote more for
us than the Jews and that their prophesies are in force for us. God said the
same then when He said they wrote as an ensample unto us to whom the end of
the world is come. "The
things you have described as taking place in Indiana, the Lord has shown me
would take place just before the
close of probation. Every uncouth thing will be demonstrated. There
will be shouting, with drums, music, and dancing. The senses of rational
beings will become so confused that they cannot be trusted to make right
decisions. And this is called the moving of the Holy Spirit. The Holy
Spirit never reveals itself in such methods, in such a bedlam of noise. This
is an invention of Satan to cover up his ingenious methods for making of none
effect the pure, sincere, elevating, ennobling, sanctifying truth for this
time. Better never have the worship of God blended with music than to use
musical instruments to do the work which last January was represented to me would be brought into our camp meetings.
The truth for this time needs nothing of this kind in its work of converting
souls. A bedlam of noise shocks the senses and pervert that which if
conducted aright might be a blessing. The powers of satanic agencies blend with
the din and noise, to have a carnival, and this is termed the Holy Spirits
working." Selected Messages,
Vol. 2, p. 36. The entire
Celebration Movement is a Satanic Carnival, what with its false gospel! The appeal to Ron that you have just read
was his/her response to the following plea by me to him. He always maintains
that the Ezekiel 9 slaughter will affect only dissenting, apostate individuals and will not
involve the SDA church militant sanctuary and organization. Ulicia Ulrike
Unruh taught him that error and it is like he is hypnotized by it. But Ellen
White said that the last Ezekiel 9 destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, was a
prefigure, symbolizing the destruction of the world, but beginning at His
Sanctuary, spiritual Jerusalem, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211, and of course, God
says the same thing in Ezekiel 9. The person making the appeal asked me
this question: “Please explain the [Ellen White statement] part in red: “I did not read Living Temple, though I
had it in my Ron’s response: What did Satan teach to Adam and Eve? Sin
and live! Disobey God and live. That has always been his New-Old theology
lie. The New Theology Ellen White says that we can overcome all
sin by the same means. Now, back to your question. Why did Ellen
White TREMBLE for our people in regard
to the Omega? Because she SAW that the church would end-up teaching the same
lie that Satan told Eve and Adam. You have to ask yourself: why would she
TREMBLE for OUR PEOPLE collectively, obviously, if they were the noble ship
going through? Only a remnant goes through. The ship without anchor which is
lost at sea, without chart or compass, is the New Movement we were never to
join. What is the chart and compass? The chart is God's Law? The compass is
His free grace gift proffered in the Laodicean message--gold tried in the
fire, which Ellen White defines as faith that works by love. Ellen White also trembled for our people
because she knew that manifestation of spiritualism would come in like New
Age Seminars at Loma Linda University. Those seminar taught the students to
look within THEMSELVES, instead of to God. This is another lie Satan told Eve,
that by looking to and discovering her true self, she could become as a
god. I
will tell you something encouraging if you will fully believe it. All prophecy is conditional. Every
promise and foreboding of God is conditional. We can turn around. If there is
a hope in heaven for you today, please do not kick against the pricks any
longer and heed the teaching of the one person alive today who can answer all
your questions. Why? Because I am totally sold out to God. I pray for the I promise that by God's grace I will
interpret ANYONE'S argument so that
nothing contradicts. God has given me that gift. Please don't spurn it any
longer. You have seen some powerful evidence today in the last few quotes I have
explained. I
have had death threats. I truly risk my life to give the warning message I
give. I do care. I do love Seventh-day Adventism. There is NO MONEY of any
consequence in it if you tell the unpopular truth. I still have only house
wrap on some of the outside walls of my house. If I had money, that would not
be the case. I had been shown the rebellious state of
the person I am responding to and that he woud pursue that course, but my
heart could not help but try onece more to appeal to him perchance there was
any hope that he would change. But God was correct, of course, in what He
showed me quite awhile back concerning this person. After the person rejected my plea, I said
to him: Ok, but in your heart of hearts you must interpret all the Bible and
Ellen White so that neither contradicts any point, and you cannot do it with
your past belief system. You cannot explain the following statements that we
dealt with today such as:
Why did she tremble for out people
collectively if only individuals were concerned? The fulfillment of Ezekiel 9
in A.D. 70 involved an apostate church temple, Sanctuary. Ellen White called
that a prefigure. Would it not have to be the same in any future LITERAL
FULFILLMENT of Ezekiel 9? Begin at My Sanctuary -- "Here we
see that the church--the Lord's sanctuary--was the first to feel the stroke
of the wrath of God. The ancient men, those to whom God had given great light
and who had stood as guardians of the spiritual interests of the people, had
betrayed their trust. They had taken the position that we need not look for
miracles and the marked manifestation of God's power as in former days. Times
have changed. These words strengthen their unbelief, and they say: The
Lord will not do good, neither will He do evil. He is too merciful to visit
His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and safety" is the cry from
men who will never again lift up their voice like a trumpet to show
God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins. These
dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just vengeance
of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish together."
E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5,
211. The vengeance above and below is executed
at His Sanctuary, in the courts of the Temple, the church proper, just as in
the last fulfillment of Ezekiel 9. Remember that the above statement is from
a chapter that begins by quoting Ezekiel 9, on page 207 of 5T. "In the very courts of the temple,
scenes will be enacted that few realize. God's people will be proved and
tested, that He may discern 'between him that serveth God and him that
serveth Him not.' Vengeance will be executed against those who
sit in the gate, deciding what the people should have and what they should
not have. These take away the key of knowledge. They refuse to enter in
themselves, and those who would enter in they hinder. These bear not the seal
of the living God. All who now occupy responsible positions should be
solemnly and terribly afraid lest in this time they shall be found as
unfaithful stewards." E.G. White, Manuscript 15, 1886, Paulson Collection,
p. 55. Can you tell me why vengeance will be
executed in the very courts of the temple? Can you tell me why Ellen White
trembled for OUR PEOPLE, collectively? and not just individuals as you always
opine? "Study the 9th
chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally fulfilled yet the time is
passing, and the people are asleep. They refuse to humble their souls and to
be converted. Not a great while longer will the Lord bear with the people who
have such great and important truths revealed to them, but who refuse to
bring these truths into their individual experience. The time is short. God
is calling will YOU hear? Will YOU receive His message? Will YOU be converted
before it is too late? Soon, very soon, every case will be decided for
eternity. Letter 106, 1909, pp. 2, 3, 5, 7. (To "The churches in Oakland
and Berkeley, September 26, 1909.)" E.
G. White Manuscript Releases Volume One, p. 260. I am not sure who wrote the appeal to me, but I know the person that claimed
to have written it and signed it. I believe Ulicia Unruh or someone else
aided him. The appeal is not his style in any wise. That person is not
ignorant of the data I have presented in this document because I have been
quoting it to him for over three years now. He chooses to dismiss a huge
amount of CONDITIONAL evidence by which the professing Seventh-day Adventist
will be weighed in the balances of the Sanctuary. Quite obviously, the person(s) has chosen
to heed only a very surface knowledge of the Bible and the Spirit of
Prophecy, and all the ways and means by which God and Ellen White say that a
church can fall. Always remember Jeremiah 14:9-15, wherein the Israel of
Jeremiah's generation committed apostasy so bad that God said not to pray for
them, and they did it all without teaching ONE BABYLONIAN doctrines (because
Christ was not yet come, so they could not deny his pre-existence) that
the fallen churches teach today. This fact should be so obvious to any
knowledgeable student of scripture. God says His people perish for a lack of
knowledge, and the ignorance of the writer of the appeal to me is blissfully
ignorant of a huge number of factors involving the conditions of God's Word. With some our greatest efforts will be
fruitless. But their blood won’t be on our backs. God bless all who dig as for hidden
treasure, and interpret so that nothing contradicts, for only then, can we
know that we are not in error. Without following that formula, there is much
in the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy that can be misinterpreted to our own damnation.
It’s called stumbling stones! Ron |