The Bible and SOP on Giants

Versus Fallen Angels

 

     “In this time evil angels in the form of men will talk with those who know the truth. They will misinterpret and misconstrue the statements of the messengers of God. . . .” {3SM 411.1}

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Below is a classic example of how quickly Gar rushes to judgment. I published the item on Nephilim (Giants) because it was sent to me by an SDA of quite long duration who believed it. I fully intended to do a quick follow-up on the item but was abruptly called away to other urgent matters. I later returned home to find Gar’s totally false judgment of my intent and motives.

 

I believe Satan is going to use such notions as depicted in the video in his plan to get folk to believe in extra-terrestrials and UFO’s so that the government can further squelch our freedoms in their pretended effort to “protect us” from these aliens in the form of  hybrid angels/men. You may have noticed that UFO’s have been seriously discussed by mainstream news sources of late as though they are a very real threat to our planet.

 

My intended purpose was to demonstrate how even SDA’s are sucked into such errors because they do not know their Bibles an Ellen White’s writings as they should. I mentioned that Ellen White said that the wise will be aware of the writings of the Apocrypha. I believe she said this so we will be able to refute the errors of those books at the end-time. For example, the YouTube has fallen angel’s amalgamating with man. But what does the Bible say?

 

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 2 Peter 2:4.

 

So rather than amalgamating with men, the fallen angels were cast down to hell and put in chains of darkness to be reserved for judgment.

 

In Genesis 2:1-4, the Nephilim are giants, not angels.

 

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Genesis 6:4. Here is the meaning of giants:

 

Transliteration:

n@phiyl {nef-eel'} or n@phil {nef-eel'}

Word Origin:

from 5307

TWOT:

1393a

Part of Speech:

noun masculine

Usage in the KJV:

giant 3

Total: 3

Definition:

1. giants, the Nephilim

TDNT - Theological Dictionary of the New Testament
TWOT - Theological Word Book of the Old Testament

 

Nevertheless, there are evil angel’s in the form of men. So we must keep an open mind on such things. But they are still angel’s in the form of men, not necessarily amalgamated with mankind.

 

     “In this time evil angels in the form of men will talk with those who know the truth. They will misinterpret and misconstrue the statements of the messengers of God. . . . “ {3SM 411.1}

 

 

Then I was going to cite what Ellen White says on this issue, which Gar quoted in his item below. I have read Patriarchs and Prophets many times and have it heavily underlined so I was very familiar with the following quote by Ellen G. White:

 

“For some time the two classes remained separate. The race of Cain, spreading from the place of their first settlement, dispersed over the plains and valleys where the children of Seth had dwelt; and the latter, in order to escape from their contaminating influence, withdrew to the mountains, and there made their home. So long as this separation continued, they maintained the worship of God in its purity. But in the lapse of time they ventured, little by little, to mingle with the inhabitants of the valleys. This association was productive of the worst results. "The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair." The children of Seth, attracted by the beauty of the daughters of Cain's descendants, displeased the Lord by intermarrying with them. Many of the worshipers of God were beguiled into sin by the allurements that were now constantly before them, and they lost their peculiar, holy character. Mingling with the depraved, they became like them in spirit and in deeds; the restrictions of the seventh commandment were disregarded, "and they took them wives of all which they chose." The children of Seth went "in the way of Cain" (Jude 11); they fixed their minds upon worldly prosperity and enjoyment and neglected the commandments of the Lord. Men "did not like to retain God in their knowledge;" they "became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." Romans 1:21. Therefore "God gave them over to a mind void of judgment." Verse 28, margin. Sin spread abroad in the earth like a deadly leprosy.”  {PP 81.2}

 

So Gar, it might be better to wait a bit before you rush to judgment. Like Satan, you watch intently for something to accuse the true reformers over day and night before the throne of God.

 

It is a patent lie that I believe evolution and reincarnation. I have a standing offer of $10,000  to anyone who can prove that I teach or ever taught such abominable errors. Gar will suffer the consequences of this lie he continues to spread abroad.—rwb

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gar

To: Adventist-fm ; Steve

Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:01 PM

Subject: Proof Ron Beaulieu believes FAIRY TALES-NEPHILIM

 

Maybe the self-proclaimed prophet should read more of Ellen White and less of the internet hoaxers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MsT473kKhc

This is classic example of how easy Ron Beaulieu is deceived. Ron is promoting that the sons of God were Nephilim. Ellen White CLEARLY says that the sons of God were the children of Seth not Nephilim as he is promoting--  I have dealt with Ron 10 years as to the truth concerning the SDA Church and he rejected God and Ellen White's clear teaching on the subject-- then
Ron accepted evolution and reincarnation, now as his mind is darkening further he accepts and promotes this erroneous teaching of the Nephilim. Hopefully he will accept the council of Ellen White!

For some time the two classes remained separate. The race of Cain, spreading from the place of their first settlement, dispersed over the plains and valleys where the children of Seth had dwelt; and the latter, in order to escape from their contaminating influence, withdrew to the mountains, and there made their home. So long as this separation continued, they maintained the worship of God in its purity. But in the lapse of time they ventured, little by little, to mingle with the inhabitants of the valleys. This association was productive of the worst results. "The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair." The children of Seth, attracted by the beauty of the daughters of Cain's descendants, displeased the Lord by intermarrying with them. Many of the worshipers of God were beguiled into sin by the allurements that were now constantly before them, and they lost their peculiar, holy character. Mingling with the depraved, they became like them in spirit and in deeds; the restrictions of the seventh commandment were disregarded, "and they took them wives of all which they chose." The children of Seth went "in the way of Cain" (Jude 11); they fixed their minds upon worldly prosperity and enjoyment and neglected the commandments of the Lord. Men "did not like to retain God in their knowledge;" they "became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." Romans 1:21. Therefore "God gave them over to a mind void of judgment." Verse 28, margin. Sin spread abroad in the earth like a deadly leprosy.  {PP 81.2}

Ellen White said--A few years since, a man named B...came to me to deliver his message. He said it was the loud cry of the third angel which was to lighten the earth with his glory. He thought God had passed all the leading workers and given him the message. I attempted to show him that he was mistaken. He said Seventh-day Adventists were Babylon, and when we told him our reasons and set the matter before him, that he was in error, he had great power come upon him, and he certainly gave a loud cry. . . . We had much trouble with him; his mind became unbalanced, and he had to be placed in the insane asylum.  {1MR 358.4}

Surely this is further proof Beaulieu's mind is becoming more and more unbalanced with his believe the
Nephilim mated with human women!

http://orionministries.weebly.com/index.html


Gar

 

Note by Ron: It is not too bright to assume that Ellen White was referring to me just because some man’s surname began with the letter B! I don’t say the SDA church is Babylon. I quote God in Ezekiel 5, that the church is worse than the nations around her because she had the light of pure truth and has violated it. I quote Ellen White in saying that the church is worse than heathen, graven image idol worshippers. I quote Ellen White in saying that God does not favor LUKEWARM Laodiceans any more than the fallen churches. What would God say about COLD APOSTATES who advanced to that position from the once lukewarm state?

 

It is an abominable lie for Gar to keep saying I believe the church is Babylon. That would be flattering and untrue.

 

"Among the professed followers of Christ, there is the same pride, formalism, vainglory, selfishness, and Worse than Babylon OPPRESSION, that existed in the Jewish nation." E.G. White, Sketches from the Life of Paul, 251-252.

 

Worse than Babylon -- "God's professed people are selfish and self-caring....They are idolaters, and are worse, in the sight of God, than the heathen, graven-image worshippers who have had no knowledge of a better way." Testimonies, Vol. 2, 440-442.

 

Becomes lukewarm becomes Laodicean "If the church of God becomes LUKEWARM [LAODICEAN] it does not stand in favor with God any more than do the churches that are represented as having fallen and become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Those who have had opportunities to hear and receive the truth, and who have united with the Seventh-day Adventist church, calling themselves the commandment keeping people of God, and yet possess no more vitality and consecration to God than do the nominal churches, will receive of the plagues of God just as verily as the churches who oppose the law of God." E.G. White, Letter 35, 1898.

 

 "The state of the Church represented by the foolish virgins, is also spoken of as the Laodicean state." E. G. White,  Review and Herald Articles,  Vol. 2, 420, 8/19/1890. 

 

"The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of God is not in her midst." E.G. White, Notebook Leaflets, p. 99, 1898.

 

"To the end of time, the presence of the Spirit is to abide with the true church." E.G. White, Acts of the Apostles, p. 55.

 

Gar says that the foolish virgin state of the church is the final church. So he believes that the foolish virgins are saved. He believes any other state of the church would have to involve an eighth church. That is the conclusion of a very blind man who has no spiritual discernment whatsoever. I would not be so hard on Gar, but I have reproved him for these foolish errors for nearly ten years now.

 

All Blessings,

 

Ron