The Church Militant and the Church Triumphant

by

Clark Floyd of Hope International Ministries

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Dear Reader,

This is a review of an article by Clark Floyd in Our Firm Foundation magazine published by Hope International ministries, an independent ministry that operates within the New Movement SDA church that has “removed God,” Selected Messages, Bk. 1, 204-5. 

The article appeared in Our Firm Foundation magazine, Volume 20, Number 6, June 2005, and was entitled:  The Church Militant and the Church Triumphant.

Though Clark Floyd is correct in his interpretation of the symbolism he employs, he totally misinterprets a correct response to the Laodicean, SDA apostate church militant, that he correctly demonstrates as being the grisled lukewarm horse of Zechariah 6:6, 7.  I have included Mr. Floyd’s entire article herein and my objectives are as follows:

·       Prove that he is totally errant in his view that the Laodicean Seventh-day Adventist church militant will be purified to become the SDA Church triumphant.

·       That a purification of the Temple by Christ Himself, did not purify the apostate Jewish church.

·       That Christ and His disciples left the apostate Jewish church.

·       That Christ and His disciples established formed another “Jerusalem,”—true Jerusalem, symbolizing Zion, the abode of His bride.

·       That the apostate Jewish church, become a harlot, could not be the pure Zion, the Bethulah VIRGIN of Isaiah 62:1-5, because she committed harlotry, and God does not marry a harlot, but rather a strictly pure virgin.

·       That God was indeed aware that apostasy and increasing worldliness would take place in our beloved Seventh-day Adventist Church before it ever happened, and His directives when such apostasy should overtake the organized church as it did the ancient first “chosen” church.

·       That the Lord’s statement that He would “dwell in the midst of Jerusalem, the city of truth, and the mountain of the Lord of hosts, the holy mountain,” did not refer to the apostate Jewish Temple of His era, nor did it refer to any reformation of that Temple.

·       That the bride will never be a harlot associated with a harlot, apostate church, that has removed God, once she learns that the church is apostate.

·       That Ellen White said that all the fallen churches are Laodicean.  No Laodicean church is reformed to become the church triumphant.

·       That the bride (Zion) is formed by coming out of apostate churches but will not form another formal church organization.

·       That the grisled Laodicean horse of Zechariah 6:6, 7, will never be reformed to be the “bay” strong horse, and that it is impossible to knowingly and willingly unite with the corrupt grisled horse and then be a bay horse—Zion, the bride of Jesus Christ, the 144,000, who will give the final battle Loud cry of the three angel’s messages.

·       That a declination to atheism after once “believing,” is worse than being spiritual Babylon—that there is more hope for spiritual Babylon than a church backslidden to atheism that has removed God.

·       That God will never purify the Laodicean Seventh-day Adventist church militant to leave it as the Zion bride of Christ. That the family of Satan is constituted as follows:

1.    Satan=Father

2.    Rome=Mother.  The whore Rome is the Mother.

3.    Her daughters are the harlots constituting mainstream, Laodicean Christianity.

4.    The Son’s of Satan’s Synagogue are the non-Christian religions of the earth as well as agnosticism and atheism.

5.    That Babylon is technically Rome and her fallen daughters, but generally comprises the errors of all members of Satan’s Synagogue on its broadest and all conclusive scale.

We will not review Clark Floyd’s article.  His article will appear in this color.  My remarks will remain in this same dark blue.  The captions of Mr. Floyd’s article will appear in this color.  Now we proceed to Clark Floyd’s article:

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God is in control. There is nothing that happens in history that God is not aware of before it takes place. “Because I knew that thou are obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass; I have even from the beginning declared it to thee. . . . I have shewed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them.” Isaiah 48:4–6.

God was aware that the apostasy and the increasing worldliness would take place in our beloved Seventh-day Adventist Church before it ever happened. Through the Scriptures and the Spirit of Prophecy, He forecast that which would come to pass. “Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he.” John 13:19.

Ron’s Commentary:  The most provocative forecast of evidence that the SDA church would become Laodicean, worldly and atheistic, has been missed by Clark Floyd and Ron’s Spear’s Hope International, which employs Mr. Floyd.  In fact it has been missed by all the so called independent ministries which are very DEPENDENT upon the monies they receive because they work within the apostate church.  They all are led by SDA ministers whom Isaiah 56:10-12 as ALL greedy dogs who ALL will not bark, and ALL of whom cannot understand.  Ellen White updates that passage as applying to our time in Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 211. 

Their love of mammon is greater than their love for God.  That is why they tell just enough truth to ingratiate their hearers who are like minded—worldly and in love with mammon.  Also, they like the fellowship of like brethren.  Anyone who tells the full truth will receive just enough to survive as did the disciples of Jesus.  The greedy dogs want more than that!

That provocative evidence I speak of is forecast in Ezekiel chapters 1-9, and 22:17-31.  Though these chapters had other fulfillments historically, God has shown me that they have an end time fulfillment.  But more graciously, he has given proof so that you do not have to take my word for it.  The proof I speak of is in Ezekiel 5:9, which reads:

Eze 5:3 Thou shalt also take thereof a few in number, and bind them in thy skirts. 

This is marriage terminology, as used in the account of Ruth and Boaz.  As in the Ezekiel 9 destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., a remnant was saved by fleeing to the mountains.  But that remnant had been “gathered out” of the apostate Jerusalem based Temple from A.D. 27 and on, as the first work of Jesus and His disciples. 

In Ezekiel 5:1-3, the apostate church is destroyed and led captive by Nebuchadnezzar, but a remnant is saved.  But was that the worst thing that God every permitted to happen to His professed people OR WILL EVER AGAIN permit?  Were the abominations of the apostate Jews worse than the abominations of professing Seventh-day Adventists at the end-time? 

Eze 5:9 And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations. 

When does God do the worst thing He EVER does?  Was it when Nebuchadnezzar took the Jews captive, or is it at the end-time when God administers His “strange act?”

Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

What you have just witnessed is a reapplication of Ezekiel, chapters 1-9, to the end-time, for that is when God does the worst thing he EVER does.  Does Ellen White say that Ezekiel 9 will be repeated?  Notice:

"Study the 9th chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally fulfilled yet the time is passing, and the people are asleep. They refuse to humble their souls and to be converted. Not a great while longer will the Lord bear with the people who have such great and important truths revealed to them, but who refuse to bring these truths into their individual experience. The time is short. God is calling will YOU hear? Will YOU receive His message? Will YOU be converted before it is too late? Soon, very soon, every case will be decided for eternity. Letter 106, 1909, pp. 2, 3, 5, 7. (To "The churches in Oakland and Berkeley, September 26, 1909.)" E. G. White Manuscript Releases Volume One, p. 260.

 

"Christ was a protestant...The Reformers date back to Christ and the apostles. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. Luther and his followers did not invent the reformed religion. They simply accepted it as presented by Christ and the apostles." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 2, 48, col. 2.

 

 "The Sanhedrin had rejected Christ's message and was bent upon His death therefore Jesus departed from Jerusalem, from the priests, the temple, the religious leaders, the people who had been instructed in the law, and turned to another class to proclaim His message, and to gather out those who should carry the gospel to all nations.”  E.G. White, Desire of Ages, 232.

 

Clark Floyd later speaks of Jesus purifying the temple and that He would thus purify the SDA church.  You have just read (above) as to how Jesus purified His bride.  Who do you believe, Clark Floyd, or Ellen G. White?  What do you believe?  Historical fact, Scripture, or Clark Floyd’s misinterpretation and/or perversion of the purification of the Temple? 

 

You see, God says in Isaiah 62:10-12, that His watchmen are ALL ignorant and cannot understand what I just showed you above.  Do you believe God?  That is why all the so-called intra-church independent ministries, which are led by such “watchmen,” cannot understand and actually do not want to understand because of their greed.  All of them have glossy catalogs filled with wares they can only sell to SDA’s, so Jesus’ purification of the Temple, did not stop the temple being used as a house of merchandise, and the same is true today with professing Seventh-day Adventism.  Recall that Ellen White reapplies Isaiah 62:10-12, in Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211, and in the following statement:

 

"The Bible for Our Time.--Never are we absent from the mind of God. God is our joy and our salvation. Each of the ancient prophets spoke less for their own time than for ours, so that their prophesying is in force for us. 'Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come' (1 Cor. 10:11). 'Not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven which things the angels desire to look into' (1 Peter 1:12).'" E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 3, p. 338.

 

In Zechariah 6:1–8, we have a prophecy that was given in the form of a parable. (“All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables: and without a parable spake he not unto them.” Matthew 13:34.) This prophecy involves mountains, and horses, and chariots and colors—but what does it mean? Let us look closer, using the Scriptures to interpret the Scriptures, here a little, and there a little, comparing spiritual things with spiritual things. See Isaiah 28:10; 1 Corinthians 2:13.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  The two mountains are the church militant and the church triumphant.  In Christ’s day, there were two such mountains, both referred to as “Jerusalem,” and both indeed were headquartered in the city of Jerusalem.  Remember this distinction regarding the two Jerusalem’s, for Clark Floyd totally misinterprets this fact.

 

“And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass. In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses; and in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses. Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord? And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth. The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country. And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth.  So they walked to and fro through the earth. Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.” Zechariah 6:1–8.

 

Deciphering the Symbols 

 

Mountains: As we look at this prophecy, we must first ask ourselves, what are the two brass mountains? What do they represent in Scripture? Before looking in other books of the Bible, we look in Zechariah to see if there is a spiritual meaning for mountain. In Zechariah 8:3 we find, “Thus saith the Lord; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem; and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the Lord of hosts, the holy mountain.” All emphasis supplied.

 

Mountain is clearly used in Scripture to describe God’s people, His Church. Isaiah 51:16 states in part “I . . . say unto Zion, Thou art my people.” See also Daniel 9:16, 20; Isaiah 2:2–3. 

 

Ron’s Commentary:  Floyd is correct in interpreting the two mountains as God’s church, but makes the hugely colossal mistake of lumping them into ONE CHURCH—ZION THE MIDST OF JERUSALEM.  Thus he makes the “great mistake” Ellen White warned of:

 

"Those who think that the church militant is the church triumphant make a great mistake." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 152.

 

Floyd’s article we are reviewing is entitled The Church Militant and the Church Triumphant.  He makes the “great mistake” of believing that the church militant is purged and purified to become the SDA church triumphant, and that is one of the most commonly believed cherished errors of professing Seventh-day Adventists TODAY!  They believe that the bad will be shaken out of the SDA church militant to leave it the purged and purified SDA Church triumphant.  That could not be further from the truth.

 

The same author of Ezekiel chapters 1-9, tells us where the tares are shaken into, and who shakes them there.  They are shaken into the church militant and burned and melted there, just as in the PREFIGURE TYPE of A.D. 70.  Who shook them there?  Jesus, His disciples and their followers shook all the tares into the apostate church and it was burned. They burned and melted there!  Ellen White called that debacle experience a PREFIGURE, The Great Controversy, p. 25.

 

Did Ezekiel predict that very thing, blow by blow, centuries before it happened?  Let’s find out!  Here is Ezekiel 20 on the Two Brass Mountains comprising Jerusalem.  See if you can segregate true Jerusalem, Zion, from apostate Jerusalem, the church militant, because Clark Floyd, Ron Spear, Vance Ferrell, and all the rest of the King’s men and horses cannot figure this out!

 

Ezekiel 20


1 And it came to pass in the seventh year, in the fifth month, the tenth day of the month, that certain of the elders of Israel came to enquire of the LORD, and sat before me. 2 Then came the word of the LORD unto me, saying, 3 Son of man, speak unto the elders of Israel, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Are ye come to enquire of me? As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will not be enquired of by you. 4 Wilt thou judge them, son of man, wilt thou judge them? cause them to know the abominations of their fathers: 5 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when I chose Israel, and lifted up mine hand unto the seed of the house of Jacob, and made myself known unto them in the land of Egypt, when I lifted up mine hand unto them, saying, I am the LORD your God; 6 In the day that I lifted up mine hand unto them, to bring them forth of the land of Egypt into a land that I had espied for them, flowing with milk and honey, which is the glory of all lands: 7 Then said I unto them, Cast ye away every man the abominations of his eyes, and defile not yourselves with the idols of Egypt: I am the LORD your God. 8 But they rebelled against me, and would not hearken unto me: they did not every man cast away the abominations of their eyes, neither did they forsake the idols of Egypt: then I said, I will pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the midst of the land of Egypt. 9 But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted before the heathen, among whom they were, in whose sight I made myself known unto them, in bringing them forth out of the land of Egypt. 10 Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt, and brought them into the wilderness. 11 And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them. 12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. 13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them. 14 But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted before the heathen, in whose sight I brought them out. 15 Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, flowing with milk and honey, which is the glory of all lands; 16 Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols. 17 Nevertheless mine eye spared them from destroying them, neither did I make an end of them in the wilderness. 18 But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols: 19 I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them; 20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God. 21 Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness. 22 Nevertheless I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I brought them forth. 23 I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries; 24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols. 25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live; 26 And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the LORD. 27 Therefore, son of man, speak unto the house of Israel, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Yet in this your fathers have blasphemed me, in that they have committed a trespass against me. 28 For when I had brought them into the land, for the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to them, then they saw every high hill, and all the thick trees, and they offered there their sacrifices, and there they presented the provocation of their offering: there also they made their sweet savour, and poured out there their drink offerings. 29 Then I said unto them, What is the high place whereunto ye go? And the name whereof is called Bamah unto this day. 30 Wherefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Are ye polluted after the manner of your fathers? and commit ye whoredom after their abominations? 31 For when ye offer your gifts, when ye make your sons to pass through the fire, ye pollute yourselves with all your idols, even unto this day: and shall I be enquired of by you, O house of Israel? As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will not be enquired of by you. 32 And that which cometh into your mind shall not be at all, that ye say, We will be as the heathen, as the families of the countries, to serve wood and stone. 33 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you: 34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out. 35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face. 36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD. 37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant: 38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD. 39 As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols. 40 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things. 41 I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen. 42 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall bring you into the land of Israel, into the country for the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to your fathers. 43 And there shall ye remember your ways, and all your doings, wherein ye have been defiled; and ye shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for all your evils that ye have committed. 44 And ye shall know that I am the LORD when I have wrought with you for my name's sake, not according to your wicked ways, nor according to your corrupt doings, O ye house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD. 45 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 46 Son of man, set thy face toward the south, and drop thy word toward the south, and prophesy against the forest of the south field; 47 And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the LORD; Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the flaming flame shall not be quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burned therein. 48 And all flesh shall see that I the LORD have kindled it: it shall not be quenched. 49 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! they say of me, Doth he not speak parables?

 

I would especially call your attention to the underlined parts for it is that part that designates the CHURCH TRIUMPHANT. 

 

34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out. 35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face. 36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD. 37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant: 38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

 

The Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ will “gather out” a small remnant from the church.  He will take them into the wilderness in the time of trouble.  He will bring them in full bond to His covenant.  Ellen White mentioned outposts.  The final message will go from those outposts.  This “gathered out” remnant is the SDA Church Triumphant.  The rebels are purged from this church triumphant (the church in heaven) by her shaking message from wilderness outposts.  The Holy Spirit will magnify and spread the message like wild-fire.  This is the church from and by which the bad are shaken.  The bad may never have been a member of this church, but they are shaken out anyway by their rejection of the Loud Cry message given by the  True Jerusalem Seventh-day Adventist Church Triumphant, soon to be named and crowned the New Jerusalem.

 

This scenario is repeated again in Matthew 13:

 

47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. 49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, 50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 51 Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord. 52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

Clearly, the wicked are severed from the just—earthly representatives of the heavenly church triumphant Zion of Hebrews 12:22, 23, or the third angel which represents faithful men.  It is from that heavenly church TRIUMPHANT and by representatives of that church TRIUMPHANT ONLY from which the bad are shaken and no earthly organized church militant.

Never, in the history of the earth, has any church militant been purged and purified by shaking out its bad!  Not once!  Don’t make that great mistake made by SDA’s and the Jews of old—that of thinking “the temple of the Lord are these, the temple of the Lord are these.”  God’s temple always consists of a few in number—remnant. 

 

Faithful men are faithful men are faithful men—the church triumphant.  Always remember:

 

The angel represented in prophecy as delivering this message,  symbolizes a class of faithful men, who, obedient to the promptings of God's Spirit and the teachings of his word, proclaim this warning to the inhabitants of earth.E.G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. 4, pp. 199-200 [The 1884 edition of The Great Controversy, NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH TESTIMONIES, VOL 4].

 

"I was shown that the THIRD ANGEL, proclaiming the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, represents the PEOPLE who receive this message and raise the voice in warning to the world." Testimonies for the Church, vol. 1, 77.

 

 

"Jesus sends  HIS PEOPLE a message of warning to prepare them for his coming. To the prophet John was made known the closing work in the great plan of man's redemption. He beheld an angel flying 'in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him for the hour of his Judgment is come and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters [Rev. 14:6, 7.].

The angel represented in prophecy as delivering this message,  symbolizes a class of faithful men, who, obedient to the promptings of God's Spirit and the teachings of his word, proclaim this warning to the inhabitants of earth. This message was not to be committed to the religious leaders of the people. They had failed to preserve their connection with God, and had REFUSED THE LIGHT FROM HEAVEN therefore they WERE NOT of the number described by the apostle Paul: 'But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day we are not of the night nor of darkness' [1 Thess. 5:4, 5]. E.G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. 4, pp. 199-200 [The 1884 edition of The Great Controversy, NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH TESTIMONIES, VOL 4].

 

 "The members of the church triumphant--the church in heaven--will be permitted to draw near to the members of the church militant, to aid them in their necessity." E. G. White, The Southern Watchman, Sep. 8, 1903.

The members of the church triumphant are members of the church in heaven and it is from that church, that gospel net (Matt. 13:47-52) that the bad are shaken at the end time by a shaking message given by the third angel church triumphant of heaven—faithful men:

 

"Characteristics of True Reformers.--Here [Isa. 8:11-14] are given the characteristics of those who shall be reformers, who will bear the banner of the third angel’s message, these who avow themselves God's commandment-keeping people, and who honor God, and are earnestly engaged, in the sight of all the universe, in building up the old waste places.  Who is it that calls [awakens] them, The repairer of the breach, The restorers of paths to dwell in? It is GodTheir names are registered [written--Heb. 12:22, 23] in heaven as reformers, restorers, as raising the foundations of many generations." E. G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 4, 1151.

 

God awakens the bride, the third angel, Zion, and she awakens the ten sleeping virgins with the shaking message:

 

"Lingering near the bride's house [not at it] are ten young women robed in white. Each carries a lighted lamp and a small flagon for oil. All are anxiously watching for the appearance of the bridegroom. But there is a delay [the tarrying time since 1844].  Hour after hour passes the watchers become weary and fall asleep. At midnight the cry is heard, 'Behold, the bridegroom cometh go ye out to meet him.' The sleepers [all the virgins slept—Matt. 25], suddenly awaking, spring to their feet. They see the procession moving on, bright with torches and glad with music. They hear the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride." E. G. White, Christ's Object Lessons, 405, 406.

 

The bride, the third angel, is the true watchmen of Zion’s walls, Isaiah 62:1-6, who do not hold their peace day or night.

 

Isaiah 62


1 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. 2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name [New Jerusalem—Rev. 3:12], which the mouth of the LORD shall name. 3 Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God. 4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. 5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin [bethula in Hebrew—meaning strictly pure], so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee. 6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.  Rev. 3:12.

 

Jesus gathered OUT from the people of Israel a group who would follow Him.  It was that gathered out group that constitutes the “few taken in his skirts,” in Ezekiel 5:3.  This was the true remnant that escaped in the case of Israel, and will escape the destruction of the church militant in the case of professing Seventh-day Adventists.

 

Isa 37:31 And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward: 

 

Isa 37:32 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and they that escape out of mount Zion: the zeal of the LORD of hosts shall do this. 

 

“Said my Guide, "There is much light yet to shine forth from the law of God and the gospel of righteousness. This message, understood in its true character, and proclaimed in the Spirit, will lighten the earth with its glory. The great decisive question is to be brought before all nations, tongues, and peoples. The closing work of the third angel's message will be attended with a power that will send the rays of the Sun of Righteousness into all the highways and byways of life, and decisions will be made for God." --Ms 15, 1888, p. 5. (To "Dear Brethren Assembled at General Conference," Nov. 1, 1888.) Released July, 1958. {2MR 58.2}

 

The Church Triumphant has Existed in Every Generation

 

There is additional proof perfect that the church militant is not purged to become the church triumphant. The church triumphant has existed in every generation to come to the aid of members of the church militant if they will accept that aid:

"The members of the church triumphant--the church in heaven--will be permitted to draw near to the members of the church militant, to aid them in their necessity." E. G. White, The Southern Watchman, Sep. 8, 1903.

 

The members of the church triumphant in heaven are those who follow Jesus by faith into the Most Holy Place NOW.  They thus make up the heavenly Zion Jerusalem.  It is by them that the tares are shaken from entering the heavenly Jerusalem church, Zion, of Hebrews 12:22, 23.

 

“Many who embraced the third message had not had an experience in the two former messages.  Satan understood this, and his evil eye was upon them to overthrow them; but the third angel was pointing them to the most holy place, and those who had had an experience in the past messages were pointing them the way to the heavenly sanctuary.  Many saw the perfect chain of truth in the angels’ messages, and gladly received them in their order, and followed Jesus by faith into the heavenly sanctuary.  These messages were represented to me as an anchor to the people of God.  Those who understand and receive them will be kept from being swept away by the many delusions of Satan.”  E.G. White, Early Writings, p. 256.

 

"The church is God's fortress, his city of refuge, which he holds in a revolted world. Any betrayal of her sacred trust is treachery to him who has bought her with the precious blood of his only begotten Son. In the past, faithful souls have constituted the church on earth, and God has taken them into covenant relation with himself, uniting the church on earth with the church in heaven. He has sent forth his holy angels to minister to his church, and the gates of hell have not been able to prevail against it." E. G. White, Review and Herald , 12-04-1900.

 

Friend of mine, this is the information that you need to help every professing Seventh-day Adventist understand, for their leaders will NEVER understand and/or teach this life saving knowledge, and God says that HIS PEOPLE perish for a lack of knowledge:

 

All of this knowledge is so critical to understanding the role of the church militant versus that of the church triumphant and the proper response to any church militant that should apostatize and “remove God,” as Ellen White said the SDA church would do as an act of the Omega of Apostasy, Selected Messages, Bk. 1, 204-5.

 

The very least you can do is to support this ministry that is teaching this imperative truth and spreading it via the Internet around the world, and print out this study and give it to all your SDA friends.  Our ministry has already gone into nearly every country of the world.

 

But here in Zechariah we have two brass mountains, and from between them we have horses and chariots coming.

 

Brass: The first definition given in Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance for the Hebrew word used here for brass is “copper.” Copper is a pure metal, while brass is a strong metal that is non-corrosive. The feet of Jesus are described as “like unto fine brass” in Revelation 1:15.

 

These two brass mountains are describing God’s church, His people, in the two times in church history when they are a pure people or church. In Old Testament times they were never pure; they were continually going against the messages of God’s prophets. But in the beginning of the New Testament era, at the time of Pentecost, they were a pure church:

“And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord—in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.” Acts 2:1–4.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  It is not accurate that there was NEVER a time of the Old Testament brass mountain church when it was not pure.  On the typical Day of Atonements, Israel was accepted of God and His presence was in the Tabernacle.  However, Floyd completely bypasses the apostate church of Israel at the time of Christ’s ministry to Israel.  He acts as though that apostate church was a non-entity.  He completely side-steps the fact that Israel was a called and chosen people who apostatized, and Christ’s response to their apostasy.

 

It is so critical to cite exactly how Christ responded to Israel’s apostasy.  Why?  Because Christ is our example and we are to follow His responses.  Remember His course?:

 

"Christ was a protestant...The Reformers date back to Christ and the apostles. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. Luther and his followers did not invent the reformed religion. They simply accepted it as presented by Christ and the apostles." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 2, 48, col. 2.

 

 "The Sanhedrin had rejected Christ's message and was bent upon His death therefore Jesus departed from Jerusalem, from the priests, the temple, the religious leaders, the people who had been instructed in the law, and turned to another class to proclaim His message, and to gather out those who should carry the gospel to all nations.”  E.G. White, Desire of Ages, 232.

 

Why would Christ respond any differently to the SDA church?

 

The only other time that the church will be pure is when it is made up of the 144,000 who are described as “virgins” with “no guile” in their mouths, “without fault before the throne of God.” Revelation 14:4–5. Again the Holy Spirit will be poured out. See Joel 2:28.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  The implication of Floyd is that the SDA church will become pure.  That is not the case.  A small remnant who escape from the apostate SDA church militant will be purified because they refuse to follow the church into apostasy.

 

“Clad in the armor of Christ’s righteousness, the church is to enter upon her final conflict. ‘Fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners’ (Song of Solomon 6:10), she is to go forth into all the world, conquering and to conquer.” Prophets and Kings, 725.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  But always remember: The mighty army with banners, moving in exact order of unity, is ALWAYS the church triumphant.  If you will look in Selected Messages, Bk. 2, p. 396 and on, you will see how the church militant has made the GREAT MISTAKE of taking all the statements Ellen White applied to the CHURCH TRIUMPHANT and applying them to itself, the church militant.  Notice in the fourth paragraph of page 397, that she states the following qualifying words: 

 

“Evil angels seek in every way to discourage those who are striving for victory over sin.”

 

Laodicea does not strive for victory over sin.  If she did, she would buy the gold tried in the fire, faith, love, the Holy Spirit, character, etc., etc., and she would not be lukewarm.

 

"Those who think that the church militant is the church triumphant make a great mistake." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 152.

 

Ellen White said that the Omega of Apostasy would develop and grow stronger until Jesus comes and that nothing would be allowed to stand in its way!  If the church was EVER reformed, then that reform would “stand in the way of the new movement!”

 

Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement.  The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless.  Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.”  E.G. White, Selected Messages, Bk. 1, 205.

 

In the context of the above statement, discussing the Omega of Apostasy, Ellen White said:

 

 "One thing it is certain is soon to be realized, the great apostasy, which is developing and increasing and waxing stronger, and will continue to do so until the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout. We are to hold fast the first principles of our denominated faith, and go forward from strength to increased faith. Ever we are to keep the faith that has been substantiated by the Holy Spirit of God from the earlier events of our experience until the present time. We need now larger breadth, and deeper, more earnest, unwavering faith in the leadings of the Holy Spirit. If we needed the manifest proof of the Holy Spirit's power to confirm truth in the beginning, after the passing of the time, we need to-day all the evidence in the confirmation of the truth, when souls are departing from the faith and giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. There must not be any languishing of soul now." (E.G. White, Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7, p. 57).

 

"God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. 'Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them' (Matt. 18:20). Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church.

Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city enclosed in prison walls." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 315.

 

 "The Lord Jesus will always have a chosen people to serve Him. When the Jewish people rejected Christ, the Prince of life. He took from them the kingdom of God and gave it unto the Gentiles. God will continue to work on this principle with every branch of His work. When a church proves unfaithful to the work of the Lord, whatever their position may be, however high and sacred their calling, the Lord can no longer work with them. Others are then chosen to bear important responsibilities. But, if these in turn do not purify their lives from every wrong action, if they do not establish pure and holy principles in all their borders, then the Lord will grievously afflict and humble them and, unless they repent, will remove them from their place and make them a reproach.

God is not 'worshipped with men's hands, as tough he needed any thing' (Acts 17:25). E. G. White, The Upward Look, 131.

 

Paul warned us of the time between these churches: “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day [the coming of Christ] shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

 

Chariots: The chariots represent God’s church, the truth bearer, during these same periods. “Instead of pressing your weight against the chariot of truth that is being pulled up an inclined road, you should work with all the energy you can summon to push it on.” Review and Herald, March 18, 1890. See also Joel 2:5.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  In light of all the facts I present in this rebuttal of Clark Floyd’s article, he is taking his above quote totally out of context.  What he is saying in essence is that we should press our weight in support of the grisled horses—those who are pushing toward Egypt—atheism and other apostasies involved in the Omega of Apostasy.

 

In the fourth chariot were grisled and bay horses.  This means that Laodicea, the grisled horses are in the same chariot (church) as the bay horses for a time.  They co-exist without apostasy for a time, and that is exactly what occurred in Adventist history.  But after a period of time, the grisled horses apostatize; LEAVE THE BAY HORSES and go forth toward the south country.  The south country is Egypt which symbolizes omega apostasy and atheism—“God being removed,” 1 Selected Messages, p. 205. 

 

See who leaves the truth?!  It is the grisled horses!  They do not leave the chariot—the church.  But they form a New Movement and head south—toward apostasy—Egypt

Atheism.  Now it is clear that there is a PARTING of the horses!  The grisled go south!  The bay go forth to walk to and fro through the earth giving the message by the empowerment of the Holy Spirit.  But there is a distinct separation of the two.  The chariot (church) that at first held both types of horses, has been abandoned by both the grisled and the bay and both head in different directions.

 

The foolish virgin Laodiceans—whom Ellen White says are the foolish virgins, are indeed so foolish in understanding, that they think that the bad horses are shaken out of the church to leave it purged and purified!  That is not according to the PREFIGURE of A.D. 27-70, and it is Ellen White and God who call it a PREFIGURE TYPE, not Ron Beaulieu.

 

You might say:  Well the church is still intact.  No it is not friend!  It is a New Movement that has removed God. 1 SM 204-5.  It is no longer a chariot (church) in any true meaning of the word, for only the presence of God can constitute a true church:

 

“Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church.

Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city enclosed in prison walls." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 315.

 

It is now the Synagogue of Satan, just as the apostate Jewish church was so designated by Christ.  The church has changed leaders and knows it not.  Ellen White predicted that also:

 

"There is manifested on the part of men in responsible positions an unwillingness to confess where they have been in the wrong and their neglect is working disaster, not only to themselves, but to the churches....You will be left to make mistakes of a similar character, you will continue to lack wisdom, and will can sin righteousness and righteousness sin. The multitude of deceptions that will prevail in these last days will encircle you, and you will change leaders, and not know that you have done so." E.G. White, Review and Herald, Vol. 2, 448.

 

Notice the non-conditionality of the statement.  That statement is a positive, unconditional prophesying and it has come true.  But the foolish virgin church has not the spiritual discernment to see it.  That is why Laodicea is counseled to buy eyesalve, that she may see the truth of what I am saying.  No Laodicean will see or agree with what I am teaching here.  It will be as foolish nonsense to such an one.  Because the things of the Spirit are such to all who are bereft of the Spirit of truth.

 

Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 

 

Ellen White prophesied that the Omega of Apostasy would develop and wax stronger until Jesus comes.  What then?!  That is when and where the PREFIGURE of the Jews, dating from the beginning of Christ’s ministry in A.D. 27, to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. ensues.  That is the time at which we are to follow Christ’s example in “gathering out” of the church that has “removed God.”  What possible good could accrue by continued membership in a church that removes God?  The PREFIGURE is described in The Great Controversy, Chapter 1.  The chapter is described as a PREFIGURE on p. 25.  The entire chapter is a TYPE of what will soon be fulfilled again LITERALLY.

 

Why is it that Clark Floyd could not see these things?  Why is it that Ron Spear, his mentor could not see this?  Because they are Laodiceans teaching that we should support the Laodicean chariot—the Synagogue of Satan. 

 

Zec 6:6 The black horses which [are] therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country. 

 

 Zec 6:7 And the bay went forth, and sought to go that they might walk to and fro through the earth: and he said, Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth. 

 

Laodicea, the grisled horse church (chariot), seems to think that God needs her no matter what she does.

 

 "The Lord Jesus will always have a chosen people to serve Him. When the Jewish people rejected Christ, the Prince of life. He took from them the kingdom of God and gave it unto the Gentiles. God will continue to work on this principle with every branch of His work. When a church proves unfaithful to the work of the Lord, whatever their position may be, however high and sacred their calling, the Lord can no longer work with them. Others are then chosen to bear important responsibilities. But, if these in turn do not purify their lives from every wrong action, if they do not establish pure and holy principles in all their borders, then the Lord will grievously afflict and humble them and, unless they repent, will remove them from their place and make them a reproach.

God is not 'worshipped with men's hands, as tough he needed any thing' (Acts 17:25). E. G. White, The Upward Look, 131.

 

"If we turn from the testimony of God's word, and accept false doctrines [Calvinism] because our fathers taught them, we fall under the condemnation pronounced upon Babylon we are drinking of the wine of her abominations." E. G White, The 1884 Great Controversy entitled Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. 4, 347, not to be confused with Testimonies, Vol. 4. The four volume Spirit of Prophecy series, can still be special ordered through any Adventist Book Store.

 

"It is now the duty of God's commandment--keeping people to watch and pray, to search the Scriptures diligently, to hide the Word of God in the heart, lest they sin against Him in idolatrous thoughts and debasing practices, and the church of God become demoralized like the fallen churches whom prophecy represents as being filled with every unclean and hateful bird." E. G. White, Review and Herald, May 17, 1887.

 

Horses: But what about the horses and chariots? Again, looking in Zechariah 1:8–11: “I saw by night, and behold a man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that were in the bottom; and behind him were there red horses, speckled (grisled) and white. Then said I, O my Lord, what are these? And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee what these be. And the man that stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, These are they whom the Lord hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth.”

 

Ron’s Commentary:  Dear friend, the speckled horses of Zechariah 1:8-11, ARE NOT the same as the grisled horses of Zechariah 6:1-8.  Clark Floyd has added the word (grisled) to the verse.   The marginal reference for the word speckled in Zechariah 1:8, is “Or bay.”  That verse refers to the bay horses and the red and white is symbolic of the martyrs who will be killed for the sake of the truth during the time of trouble and the white symbolizes the white robes of the 144,000 saints who are translated without seeing death.  When Mr. Floyd adds the word grisled to the verse, he confuses the grisled horses with the bay, lumping them together, contradicting the fact that the grisled go south toward Egypt and atheistic apostasy, and the bay go to and fro in the earth giving the pure truth.

 

In Zechariah 10:3 we read, “Mine anger was kindled against the shepherds and I punished the goats: for the Lord of hosts hath visited his flock the house of Judah, and hath made them as his goodly horse in the battle.”  Joel 2:2, 4, 11 says, “A great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it. . . . The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses, and as horsemen. . .  The Lord shall utter his voice before his army.”

 

Finally, “The spasmodic, fitful movements of some who claim to be Christians is well represented by the work of strong but untrained horses.” Testimonies to Ministers, 489–490.

 

Thus we conclude that the horses represent God’s people during the period between Pentecost and the 144,000.

 

The first horse is red. Red can stand for sin (Isaiah 1:18), or for blood (2 Kings 3:22—“as red as blood”). See also Early Writings, 18–19.

 

The red horses and chariot represent the first church period after Pentecost. All the apostles, except John were martyred, as were many of the early Christians. See Foxe’s Book of Martyrs. Note also that this is the one church that has no specific direction to go—death was their final destination.

 

The black horses and chariot that were to “go forth into the north country” (Zechariah 6:6) represent God’s people during the dark ages, from 538  A.D. to 1798. “In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night.” Proverbs 7:9. “The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.” Proverbs 4:19. North, in the Bible, often represents Babylon. “Nebuchadrezzar, king of Babylon, a king of kings, from the north.” Ezekiel 26:7.

 

These two brass mountains are describing God’s church, His people, in the two times in church history when they are a pure people or church.

 

There were many people sent forth with God’s Word—the Waldenses, the Huguenots, and finally the Reformers (see The Great Controversy). These groups sought to reach the people under the control of the papacy. The papacy is represented in prophecy by Babylon. See Revelation, chapters 17 and 18.

 

The white horses and chariot represent the church of Philadelphia, the Millerite movement. White represents a pure people: “Many shall be purified and made white.” Daniel 12:10; see also Revelation 19:8. “Of all the great religious movements since the days of the apostles, none have been more free from human imperfection and the wiles of Satan than was that of the autumn of 1844.” The Great Controversy, 401.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  Philadelphia is kept through the time of trouble, so she is still around at that time as the white horse, pure people—church triumphant.  Rev. 3:10-12.

 

The Church of Laodicea—The Seventh day Adventist Church—is symbolized as one chariot being pulled in two different directions by two different sets of horses.

 

In Revelation 3:7–12 the church of Philadelphia, the church of brotherly love, has no condemnation. Zechariah 6:6 shows they also preached in the north country—to Babylon. In Miller’s time modern Babylon represented Catholics and Protestants (Babylon and her daughters). See The Great Controversy, 382–383.

 

We note that those that go toward the north country have quieted the spirit in the north country. See Zechariah 6:8. The Holy Spirit is being resisted or quieted by those in Babylon.

 

After the church of Philadelphia is the church of Laodicea—the Seventh day Adventist Church. This is symbolized as one chariot being pulled in two different directions by two different sets of horses. See Zechariah 6:6–7.

 

One set of horses is grisled spotted or gray. It is neither black nor white—neither hot nor cold. They are headed toward the south country. See Zechariah 6:6. When “Abraham journeyed, going on still toward the south” (Genesis 12:9), he was headed toward Egypt. Egypt, in the Bible, represents atheism and worldliness. See Revelation 11:8; The Great Controversy, 269.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  Egypt -- "The great city" in whose streets the witnesses are slain, and where their dead bodies lie, is "spiritually" Egypt. Of all nations presented in Bible history, Egypt most boldly denied the existence of the living God and resisted His commands. No monarch ever ventured upon more open and highhanded rebellion against the authority of Heaven than did the king of Egypt. When the message was brought him by Moses, in the name of the Lord, Pharaoh proudly answered: "Who is Jehovah, that I should hearken unto His voice to let Israel go? I know not Jehovah, and moreover I will not let Israel go." Exodus 5:2, A.R.V. This is atheism, and the nation represented by Egypt would give voice to a similar denial of the claims of the living God and would manifest a like spirit of unbelief and defiance. "The great city" is also compared, "spiritually," to Sodom. The corruption of Sodom in breaking the law of God was especially manifested in licentiousness. And this sin was also to be a pre-eminent characteristic of the nation that should fulfill the specifications of this scripture.

 

Ellen White said that the church was worse than Sodom; that Sodom would have repented if the mighty works which have been done in the SDA church had been done in her.  She said it will be more tolerable for Sodom in the day of judgment than for the SDA church:

 

"And thou, Capernaum [Seventh-day Adventists, who have had great light], which art exalted unto heaven [in point of privilege], shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT, than for thee." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, vol. 3, p. 69, col. 3.

 

This set of grisled horses is leading the last chariot toward Egypt or the world. They are the first set of horses.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  Virtual atheists—SDA Bible Commentary on Isaiah 29:16: 

 

Isa 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? 

 

16. “Upside down.  They were attempting, as it were, to have the potter take orders from the clay.  They regarded themselves as having wisdom greater than that of the Creator. These spiritual leaders were virtual atheists, who masqueraded under the guise of religion.” SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 4, p. 216.

 

Ellen White said in over 100 statements that SDAs are repeating the history of Israel.  That is why they meet with another literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9.  The leaders are leading like virtual atheists.  But blind Laodiceans are not the wiser due to their slumbering sluggishness and indolence in neglect of a thorough study of the Word.

 

Speaking of the Seventh day Adventist Church, our prophet says, “The church has turned back from following Christ her Leader and is steadily retreating toward Egypt. Yet few are alarmed or astonished at their want of spiritual power. Doubt and even disbelief of the testimonies of the Spirit of God, is leavening our churches everywhere. Satan would have it thus.” Testimonies, vol. 5, 217; see also ibid., 211; ibid., vol. 1, 608–609; ibid., vol. 9, 164; Gospel Workers, 14–15.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  Worse than Babylon!  Unbelief.  Infidels, atheism.  Clark Floyd can quote Ellen White’s statement that the church has turned back from following Christ her Leader, and is steadily retreating toward Egypt, and at the same time advice us to keep pushing the chariot uphill!  The chariot is not going uphill!  It is headed down (SOUTH) to hell.  But Clark Floyd is non the less unaware!  You see, he follows the lead of his “dumb-dog” mentor, Ron Spear. Isaiah 56:10-12, and neither can understand.

 

Now please note that there is only one chariot, but two sets of horses. There is not another church after the Seventh-day Adventist Church. The Seventh-day Adventist Church never becomes Babylon. It does not become the Seventh-day Adventist Reform Church. But something does happen!

 

Ron’s Commentary:  Something does happen alright!  Laodicea is brought down to hell in another Ezekiel 9 debacle!  Ellen White said that if the church became Laodicean, it would not be regarded with any more favor by God than fallen Babylon:

 

"If the church of God becomes LUKEWARM [LAODICEAN] it does not stand in favor with God any more than do the churches that are represented as having fallen and become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Those who have had opportunities to hear and receive the truth, and who have united with the Seventh-day Adventist church, calling themselves the commandment keeping people of God, and yet possess no more vitality and consecration to God than do the nominal churches, will receive of the plagues of God just as verily as the churches who oppose the law of God." E.G. White, Letter 35, 1898.

 

"Among the professed followers of Christ, there is the same pride, formalism, vainglory, selfishness, and OPPRESSION, that existed in the Jewish nation." E.G. White, Sketches from the Life of Paul, 251-252.

 

"God's professed people are selfish and self-caring....They are idolaters, and are worse, in the sight of God, than the heathen, graven-image worshippers who have had no knowledge of a better way." Testimonies, vol. 2, 441-442.

 

"We must as a people arouse and cleanse the camp of Israel. Licentiousness, unlawful intimacy, and unholy practices are coming in among us in a large degree...We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing our churches to become corrupted and filled with every foul spirit, a cage for every unclean and hateful bird, and will we be clear unless we make decided movements to cure the existing evil? E. G. White, Manuscript Releases No. 449, pp. 17, 18. (Letter 51, 1886 to Elder Butler) Testimonies on Sexual Behavior, Adultery, and Divorce, p. 193.

 

"Now it is just EXACTLY as in the days of the Jews. When a message came in, why all the power of the leaders [such some leaders on this forum] WAS PUT AGAINST IT, THAT IT SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE. Now, brethren, GO TO GOD FOR YOURSELVES, and on your knees plead with God...If God sends us light, let it come to us, and let no man close the door, or try to close it. Don't close it yourselves. Open the door of your heart and let the brilliant rays of light shine into your heart and into your mind. I pray you, let the Sun of Righteousness in." E.G. White, Manuscript Release #900, Manuscript 9, 1890. 1888 Materials, p. 541.

 

There is a second set of horses involved with this same chariot—another group within the same church. These horses are a bay color. In many King James Bibles there is a footnote that indicates that the word translated “bay” could have been translated “strong.” It comes from a prime root meaning to be alert, which is translated in some places “of good courage” or “steadfastly minded.” See Strong’s Concordance.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  Preposterous!  Totally contrary to the PREFIGURE taught by Ellen G. White and Scripture!  Floyd contradicts his own SDA leaders who said that the thorns (open sinners) make it impossible for the wheat to mature!  And who could deny that apostasy to the degree that the church removes God and goes to Egyptian atheism is open sin?! 

 

How has the church gone toward atheism?  It’s leaders, even General Conference Presidents, like Neal C. Wilson, have taught against the six day creation week, saying that it was more like 13,000 years or so!  Atheism is attested to by disbelief that teaches contrary to God.

 

Neal C. Wilson also betrayed the Everlasting Gospel of the three angel’s messages when he said in court:

 

"Although it is true that there was a period in the life of the Seventh-day Adventist Church when the denomination took a distinctly anti-Roman Catholic viewpoint...that attitude on the church's part was nothing more than a manifestation of widespread anti-popery among conservative Protestant denominations in the early part of this century and the latter part of the last, and which has now been consigned to the historical trash heap so far as the Seventh-day Adventist Church is concerned." (Neal C. Wilson, past president of the Seventh-day Adventist General Conference, Court Transcript of United States vs. the Seventh-day Adventist Church, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission vs. the Pacific Press Publishing Association and the General Conference, Reply Brief for Defendants, p 4, Civil Case #74-2025 CBR, presided over by Judge Charles B. Renfrew, U.S. District Court, San Francisco, California, 1974-1975.)

 

The above statement is a betrayal of sacred trust that has never been repented of.  What then ensued:

 

"The Lord Jesus will always have a chosen people to serve Him. When the Jewish people rejected Christ, the Prince of life. He took from them the kingdom of God and gave it unto the Gentiles. God will continue to work on this principle with every branch of His work. When a church proves unfaithful to the work of the Lord, whatever their position may be, however high and sacred their calling, the Lord can no longer work with them. Others are then chosen to bear important responsibilities. But, if these in turn do not purify their lives from every wrong action, if they do not establish pure and holy principles in all their borders, then the Lord will grievously afflict and humble them and, unless they repent, will remove them from their place and make them a reproach.

God is not 'worshipped with men's hands, as tough he needed any thing' (Acts 17:25). E. G. White, The Upward Look, 131.

 

"The church is God's fortress, his city of refuge, which he holds in a revolted world. Any betrayal of her sacred trust is treachery to him who has bought her with the precious blood of his only begotten Son. In the past, faithful souls have constituted the church on earth, and God has taken them into covenant relation with himself, uniting the church on earth with the church in heaven. He has sent forth his holy angels to minister to his church, and the gates of hell have not been able to prevail against it." E. G. White, Review and Herald , 12-04-1900.

 

The gates of hell will not prevail against faithful souls!  It is they who are united with the church in heaven.

 

If it were possible for the “bay” horses to co-exist WITHIN the same church as the “grisled” horses who have removed God by Omega Apostasy, then we should all return to Rome, for there is more hope for her than Egyptian atheism.  Did Ellen White say as much in the following statement:

 

"God's professed people are selfish and self-caring....They are idolaters, and are worse, in the sight of God, than the heathen, graven-image worshippers who have had no knowledge of a better way." Testimonies, vol. 2, 441-442.

 

If the bay horse can co-exist WITHIN the church with the grisled horse after it heads towards Egypt to become worse than Babylon, why did we have to come out of Babylon in 1844?  Come, let us reason together!  In Ellen White’s day, the church had not committed the Omega of Apostasy by removing God, 1 SM 204-5.  That is why she did not separate.  After removing God, the church could only be led by Satan. 

 

Also, if one wants to consider the grisled horse as being the tares, then we could have co-existed with such tares in Babylon!  Turning south to Egypt is far different than being a tare whom Ellen White defined as insincere believers whose motives we would have to judge to remove from the church.  Open sin such as removing God and heading south to Egypt does not in the least measure with being a mere tare.  That is open sin such as the thorns imbibe.  Open sin was to be put out of the church:

"Christ has plainly taught that those who persist in open sin must be separated from the church..."  Christ's Object Lessons, 71.

 

Christ plainly taught such separation by precept and EXAMPLE as well as by command in Isaiah 8:9-13, the three angel’s messages, and the following admonition:

 

2Cr 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,

 

"Christ was a protestant...The Reformers date back to Christ and the apostles. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. Luther and his followers did not invent the reformed religion. They simply accepted it as presented by Christ and the apostles." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 2, 48, col. 2.

 

Thorns are OPEN SINNERS. Tares are not OPEN SINNERS. They are insincere types whose motives we would have to judge in order to expel or pull them

up from the wheat. But the thorns are quite another issue, and when they spring up, it they are not either reformed or expelled from the church, it is impossible for the wheat to mature. So what must the wheat do in order to mature? Leave the thorns. This is precisely what Jesus and His disciples did, Desire of Ages, 232.

 

Separation in the Alpha of Apostasy in the Seventh-day Adventist ChurchPrecedent for Separation into Home Churches

 

The context of the following statement was the time of the Alpha of Apostasy in the church.  What in the world would Ellen White do in the Omega?  The answer to that question is a well kept secret at the White Estate!  But we still have enough evidence to know what to do.  We have Jesus’ example in gathering out His followers from an apostate church. That is sufficient.  And we have Ellen White’s instruction that what occurred with the Jews A.D. 27-70, was a PREFIGURE.  Nothing could be safer to follow!

 

"There is a little hope in one direction: Take the young men and women, and place them where they will come as little in contact with our churches as possible, that the low grade of piety which is current in this day shall not leaven their ideas of what it means to be a Christian." E.G. White to Brother Haskell, Manuscript Release #995, p. 5.

 

"Brother and sister Haskell have rented a house in one of the best parts of the city, and have gathered round them a family of helpers, who day by day go out giving Bible readings, selling our papers, and doing medical missionary work. During the hour of worship, the workers relate their experiences. Bible studies are regularly conducted in the home, and THE YOUNG MEN AND YOUNG WOMEN connected with the mission receive a practical, thorough training in holding Bible readings and in selling our publications. The Lord has blessed their labors, a number have embraced the truth, and many others are deeply interested." Review and Herald, September 7, 1905, Evangelism, p. 108.

 

"God's professed people are selfish and self-caring....They are idolaters, and are worse, in the sight of God, than the heathen, graven-image worshippers who have had no knowledge of a better way." Testimonies, vol. 2, 441-442.

 

Again, Floyd has missed the fact that the horses remained in the same chariot for a time, and then went in separate directions.  A chariot cannot separate and go in two different directions and remain a complete chariot (church).  Especially when a church commits Omega Apostasy and removes God.  And, if the grisled horses going south leaves the bay horse church purged and purified, why is Ezekiel 9 literally fulfilled within its ONCE Jerusalem borders?

 

Concerning the church that is alert (the bay horses), consider the following:

 

Isaiah 62


1 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. 2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name. 3 Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God. 4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. 5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee. 6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,

 

The watchmen mentioned above are the following True Reformers:

 

"Characteristics of True Reformers.—Here are given the characteristics of those who shall be reformers, who will bear the banner of the third angel's message, those who avow themselves God's commandment-keeping people, and who honor God, and are earnestly engaged, in the sight of all the universe, in building up the old waste places. Who is it that calls them, The repairers of the breach, The restorers of paths to dwell in? It is God. Their names are registered [written--Heb. 12:22, 23] in heaven as reformers, restorers, as raising the foundations of many generations." E. G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 4, 1151.

 

God’s Final, Purified Church

 

These horses seek to “walk to and fro” through the earth. This is a group that strives to carry God’s true end-time message—the full three angel’s messages—to the whole world. “Sought” in verse 7 means “to search out” or “to strive after.” See Strong’s Concordance.

 

Finally the command goes forth, “Get you hence, walk to and fro through the earth. So they walked to and fro through the earth.” Zechariah 6:7. Compare Zechariah 10:12; Micah 4:5. God will have a people, a people who will obediently stand for truth. He will purify this church. The bay horses will lead into and become the second brass mountain, the 144,000.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  Ezekiel 20:34-38, tells exactly how God will purify His church, versus the Synagogue of Satan:

 

34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out. 35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face. 36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD. 37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant: 38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

 

“God’s care for His heritage is unceasing. He suffers no affliction to come upon His children, but such as is essential for their present and eternal good. He will purify His church, even as Christ purified the temple during His ministry on earth.” The Acts of the Apostles, 524–525; see also  Testimonies, vol. 4, 17.

 

Ron’s Commentary:  If the Temple was purged  and purified in the manner Floyd implies, why was it destroyed some 40 years later?  Clark Floyd is being devious in saying that Christ purified the temple thus implying that the Temple was reformed.  No such thing occurred.  If it did, why did Christ, as the first act of His ministry, “gather out” those who would gift the gospel to the world?

 

The use of such quotes (Floyd’s quote above) to sanction remaining with an apostate church is despotism of the worst kind, and demonstrates the lengths some will go to sanction their unholy unity with those who have “removed God.”  A full review of his quotes shows that Ellen White was speaking of faults and defects rather than a church that was in gross Omega Apostasy.

 

God and Ellen White say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to unite with the corrupt and remain pure, and that it is impossible for the wheat to mature under corrupt conditions in the church.

 

"It is impossible for you to unite with those who are corrupt, and still remain pure. (II Corinthians 6:14, 15 quoted). God and Christ and the heavenly host would have men know that if he unites with the corrupt he will become corrupt." E.G. White, Review and Herald, Vol. 4, p. 137.

 

"The thorns of sin will grow in any soil they need no cultivation but grace must be carefully cultivated. The briers and thorns are always ready to spring up, and the work of purification must advance continually....

The thorns that have been cut off but not uprooted grow apace, until the soul [and/or the church] is overspread with them." E.G. White, Christ's Object Lessons, p. 50.

 

"The gospel seed often falls among thorns and noxious weeds and if there is not a moral transformation in the human heart, if old habits and practices and the former life of sin are not left behind, if the attributes of Satan are not expelled from the soul, [and/or the church] the wheat crop will be choked. The thorns will come to be the crop, and will kill out the wheat." Christ's Object Lessons, p. 50.

 

"Thorns sprung up.--The thorns made it impossible for the wheat to mature (see Luke 8:14). In the same way secular interest prevent the fruits of the Spirit (Gal. 5:22, 23) from reaching maturity. Religion is relegated to the subordinate position of being only one interest among many. For lack of cultivation it withers and eventually dies. That which the thorny-ground hearers lack is a moral transformation (COL 50). To them, justification is the sum and substance of religion, and they fail to realize that the Christian life consists essentially in the process known as sanctification--the process by which evil traits and tendencies are replaced by the perfect life-pattern of Jesus Christ." SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 5, 405.

 

Why we Must Separate From the Thorns if the Church Cannot or Will Not Reform Them

 

For a more thorough treatment of the thorns versus the tares, see the following document:

 

http://omega77.tripod.com/DiffWTT.htm

 

Thorns sprung up.--The thorns made it impossible for the wheat to mature.  (Luke 8:4-7).

 

In the same way, secular interests often prevent the fruits of the Spirit from reaching maturity. (Gal. 5:22, 23).

 

Thorns are OPEN SINNERS. Tares are not OPEN SINNERS. They are insincere types whose motives we would have to judge in order to expel or pull them

up from the wheat. But the thorns are quite another issue, and when they spring up, it they are not either reformed or expelled from the church, it is impossible for the wheat to mature. So what must the wheat do in order to mature? Leave the thorns. This is precisely what Jesus and His

disciples did, Desire of Ages, 232, as follows:

 

"The Sanhedrin had rejected Christ's message and was bent upon His death therefore Jesus departed from Jerusalem, from the priests, the temple, the religious leaders, the people who had been instructed in the law, and turned to another class to proclaim His message, and to gather out those who should carry the gospel to all nations.

As the light and life of men was rejected by the ecclesiastical authorities in the days of Christ, so it has been rejected in every succeeding generation. Again and again the history of Christ's withdrawal from Judea has been repeated. When the Reformers preached the word of God, they had no thought of separating themselves from the established church but the religious leaders would not tolerate the light, and those that bore it were forced to seek another class, who were longing for the truth. In our day few of the professed followers of the Reformers are actuated by their spirit. Few are listening for the voice of God, and ready to accept truth in whatever guise it may be presented. Often those who follow in the steps of the Reformers are forced to turn away from the churches they love, in order to declare the plain teaching of the word of God. And many times those who are seeking for light are by the same teaching obliged to leave the church of their fathers, that they may render obedience." E.G. White, Desire of Ages, 232.

 

Did Folk Leave the Apostate Jewish Church Before Christ Began Calling Them Out in A.D. 27?

 

Ellen White clearly states in The Great Controversy, p. 25, 1911, edition, that the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. was a PREFIGURE. Prefigure means TYPE, which demands a similar ANTITYPICAL FULFILLMENT. Then she says that another LITERAL FULFILLMENT of Ezekiel 9 will occur. So all we have to do is go back to the TYPE, THE PREFIGURE and see what happened then, and any other interpretation makes Ellen White a false prophet:

 

1) Who left who then? The good left the Bad.

2) Where were the tares gathered? Into the Midst of Jerusalem, the apostate church, Ezekiel 22:17-31.

3) Was there a primitive revival of the Jewish people? Yes! Where did it take place? Within the apostate Jewish Church, or outside it? Obviously outside it, Desire of Ages, 232, or it would not have been destroyed had the revival occurred inside the Jewish church!

4) Who was True Zion, from whence the sinners was shaken? Was it the apostate Jewish Organization, or was it from the reformer church of Jesus and the disciples?

5) Did the Jewish people leave the apostate Jewish church long before persecution began? Yes, the began to leave when Jesus "gathered out" those who would take the gospel to the world. Desire of Ages, 232, and even before this according to the following statement by Ellen White:

  

"The recreant priests added licentiousness to the dark catalogue of their crimes yet they still polluted by their presence the tabernacle of the Lord, and, laden with sin, dared to come into the presence of a holy God. As the men of Israel witnessed the corrupt course of the priests, they thought it safer for their families not to come up to the appointed place of worship. Many went from Shiloh with their peace disturbed, their indignation aroused, until they at last determined to offer their sacrifices themselves, concluding that this would be fully as acceptable to God, as to sanction in any manner the abominations practiced in the Sanctuary." E.G. White, The Signs of the Times, vol. 1, p. 264, col. 3, December 1, 1881.

 

The experience of the church in Shiloh can be traced back to Jeremiah’s day.

 

Jer 7:12 But go ye now unto my place which [was] in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.

 

Jer 7:14 Therefore will I do unto [this] house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.

 

Jer 26:6 Then will I make this house like Shiloh, and will make this city a curse to all the nations of the earth.

 

And what was God’s instruction through Jeremiah concerning the church of his day?

 

Jer 11:15 What hath my beloved [bride] to do in mine house [church], [seeing] she hath wrought lewdness with many, and the holy flesh [God] is passed from thee? when thou doest evil, then thou rejoicest [celebrates]. 

 

When the church leaders had formed a conspiracy with God’s enemies (Jer. 11:9-15), God, through Jeremiah, instructed the people to separate from the church—His house, and God Himself left it.  But what did the church do?  It formed a celebration church!  This same course of apostasy has been imbibed by the church today.

 

"The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A NEW ORGANIZATION would be established. Books of a NEW ORDER would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the NEW MOVEMENT. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but GOD BEING REMOVED, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.

 

Who has authority to begin such a [NEW] movement? We have our Bibles, we have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth? E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 1, 204, 205.

 

"Christ was a protestant...The Reformers date back to Christ and the apostles. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. Luther and his followers did not invent the reformed religion. They simply accepted it as presented by Christ and the apostles." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 2, 48, col. 2.

 

 "The Sanhedrin had rejected Christ's message and was bent upon His death therefore Jesus departed from Jerusalem, from the priests, the temple, the religious leaders, the people who had been instructed in the law, and turned to another class to proclaim His message, and to gather out those who should carry the gospel to all nations.”  E.G. White, Desire of Ages, 232.

 

Christ’s first act of gathering out His disciples from the apostate church and then forming home churches, was part of the PREFIGURE that depicted the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D.   Ellen White calls that destruction a PREFIGURE on page 25 of The Great Controversy.  This first act of Christ gathering out of the apostate church was an essential part of the PREFIGURE, so that the people would become less known to the Jews when it became time for them to flee to the mountains of Pella in the land of Peraea.  See SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 5, pp. 74, 75.

 

The same principle applies at the end-time fleeing:

 

 "I saw the nominal church and nominal Adventists, like Judas, would betray us to the Catholics to obtain their influence to come against the truth. The saints then will be an obscure [hidden] people, little known to the Catholics but the churches and nominal Adventists who know of our faith and customs (for they hate us on account of the Sabbath, for they could not refute it) will betray the saints and report them to the Catholics as those who disregard the institutions of the people that is, that they keep the Sabbath and disregard Sunday.

 

Then the Catholics bid the Protestants to go forward, and issue a decree that all who will not observe the first day of the week, instead of the seventh day, shall be slain. And the Catholics, whose numbers are large, will stand by the Protestants. The Catholics will give their power to the image of the beast. And the Protestants will work as their mother worked before them to destroy the saints. But before their decree bring or bear fruit, the saints will be delivered by the Voice of God. Then I saw that Jesus' work in the sanctuary will soon be finished. And after His work there is finished, He will come to the door of the first apartment, and confess the sins of Israel upon the head of the Scape Goat. Then He will put on the garments of vengeance. Then the plagues will come upon the wicked, and they do not come till Jesus puts on that garment, and takes His place upon the great white cloud. Then while the plagues are falling, the Scape Goat is being led away. He makes a mighty struggle to escape, but he is held fast by the hand that leads him. If he should effect his escape, Israel would lose their lives. I saw that it would take time to lead away the Scape Goat into the land of forgetfulness after the sins were put on his head.

The great white cloud I saw was not the holy place, but entirely separate from the holy and most holy place, entirely separate from the sanctuary.

 

Then the angel repeated these words, and said, 'This is the time spoken of in Isaiah. He saw that there was not man, and wondered that there was no intercessor. He had no mediator between God and man, and these plagues could be withheld no longer, for Jesus had ceased to plead for Israel, and they were covered with the covering of the Almighty God, and they could live in the sight of a holy God, and those who were not covered, the plagues fell upon them, for they had nothing to shelter or protect them from the wrath of God." E.G. White, Dorchester, Maine, October 23, 1850, Spalding--Magan's Unpublished Mss. Testimonies, pp. 1, 2.

 

Any teaching that contradicts the Ezekiel 9 PREFIGURE SCENARIO,  is contradicting Ellen White and SCRIPTURE, because Ezekiel 5:9, proves that Ezekiel 9 is really PRIMARILY FULFILLED at the end-time when God does the worst thing He has ever done or will ever do again. The end-time interpretations of the current professing SDA New Movement Church, violate this PREFIGURE SCENARIO stated by Ellen White and backed by Scripture. Choose ye this day, between Scripture and Ellen White, versus "dumb dog watchmen," who will NEVER AGAIN show the House of Jacob their sins, Testimonies, vol. 5, 211, and Isaiah 56:10-12.

 

The question is—Will you be among the grisled horses or the bay horses? Will you be among the 144,000? Will you be in the purified church?

 

Ron’s Commentary:  The real question is which “Jerusalem Church” constituted the grisled horses and the bay horses in the PREFIGURE of A.D. 27-A.D. 70?  Which church was the purified church?  Both churches had headquarters in Jerusalem—the apostate Temple, and the headquarters of Jesus and His disciples who had separated and formed home churches dotting the hills of Judea.  Which was the church of the “bay horses?”  Which church housed the bride of Christ?

 

He said, "A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before Him. He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice." John represented himself as the friend who acted as a messenger between the betrothed parties, preparing the way for the marriage. When the bridegroom had received his bride, the mission of the friend was fulfilled. He rejoiced in the happiness of those whose union he had promoted. So John had been called to direct the people to Jesus, and it was his joy to witness the success of the Saviour's work. He said, "This my joy therefore is fulfilled. He must increase, but I must decrease." {DA 179.3}

 

John the Baptist prepared the bride for Christ—in the person of the disciples.  These and their followers who had left the apostate church of the day were the “bay horses.”  They comprised the Church Triumphant.

 

COUNTERPART: "The Lord commanded one of his ancient servants, 'Pray not thou for this people [Jer. 7:16 and 11:14], neither lift up cry nor prayer for them neither make intercession to me for I will not hear thee.' The prophet thus describes the sins which had called forth this fearful denunciation: 'The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means and my people love to have it so and what will ye do in the end thereof?' 'From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, every one is given to covetousness and from the prophet even unto the priest, every one dealeth falsely. They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace, when there is no peace.' The apostles declare that this state of things will find its COUNTERPART in the last days. Many have a form of godliness, but in their daily life deny the power thereof. They have ceased to be convicted of their sins or alarmed at their state. They say in their hearts, 'The church is flourishing. Peace and spiritual prosperity are within her borders.' The words of the prophet may well apply to these self-deceivers, 'They have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them." E. G. White,  Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald,  11-07-82.

 

COUNTERPART: "In the time of the Saviour, the Jews had so covered over the precious jewels of truth with the rubbish of tradition and fable, that it was impossible to distinguish the true from the false. The Saviour came to clear away the rubbish of superstition and long-cherished errors, and to set the jewels of God's word in the framework of truth. What would the Saviour do if he should come to us now as he did to the Jews? He would have to do a similar work in clearing away the rubbish of tradition and ceremony. The Jews were greatly disturbed when he did this work [As are SDAs today!]. They had lost sight of the original truth of God, but Christ brought it again to view. It is our work to free the precious truths of God from superstition and error." E.G. White,  Review and Herald, vol. 2, 308. 

 

There is a modern COUNTERPART to the ancient apostate "chosen people" of God. That modern COUNTERPART is the people who claim to be the modern "chosen people" of God, the remnant, if you will.

 

There are over 100 statements to the affect that SDAs are repeating the history of ancient Israel. Here are just a few of them:

 

"I have been shown that the spirit of the world is fast leavening the church. You are following the same path as did ancient Israel. There is the same falling away from your holy calling as God's peculiar people. You are having fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness. Your [ecumenical] concord with unbelievers have provoked he Lord's displeasure. You know not the things that belong to your peace, and they are fast being hid from your eyes. [The very words applied to fallen Israel on page 17 of The Great Controversy] Your neglect to follow the light will place you in a more unfavorable position than the Jews upon whom Christ pronounced a woe." Testimonies, vol. 5, pp. 75-76.

 

"Like ancient Israel, the church has dishonored her God by departing from the light, neglecting her duties, and abusing her high and exalted privilege of being peculiar and holy in character. Her members have violated their covenant to live for God and him only. They have joined with the selfish and world-loving. Pride, the love of pleasure, and sin have been cherished, and CHRIST HAS DEPARTED. His Spirit has been quenched in the church. Satan works wide by side with professed Christians yet they are so destitute of spiritual discernment that they do not detect him." E.G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 2, pp. 441-442.

 

"Among the professed followers of Christ, there is the same pride, formalism, vainglory, selfishness, and OPPRESSION, that existed in the Jewish nation." E.G. White, Sketches from the Life of Paul, 251-252.

 

"God's professed people are selfish and self-caring....They are idolaters, and are worse, in the sight of God, than the heathen, graven-image worshipers who have had no knowledge of a better way." Testimonies, vol. 2, 441-442.

 

Am I remiss in observing (reasoning) that worse than heathen, graven-image worshippers, means worse than Babylon? Especially after knowing the truth and a knowledge of a better way! If I am how and why?  By the above statement it is flattery, presumption, and patronization error to refer to the apostate SDA church as Babylon!

 

No, let it not be said by anyone that Ron Beaulieu has said that the church is spiritual Babylon!  That title is reserved for Rome. But the church is part of secular Babylon as far as teaching a confused admixture of truth and error and retreating toward Egypt—atheism. I concur with Ellen White that God's professed people are worse than spiritual Babylonian heathen graven image idol worshippers! Worse than Catholics! Worse than the great Whore! Why? Because Adventists have had the light of truth and have willfully united with the great whore in business partnership and ecumenical liaison!

 

Ellen White said we are never to unite with unbelievers in business partnership, let alone the great Whore of Babylon! However, I concur with Ellen White that the church could and indeed has become the cage of every unclean and hateful bird, language that is distinctly applied to Babylon in Revelation 18, but Ellen White said it and not I. Credit her and not me. I am agreeing with her.

 

Since there are only two masters, there is not much consolation to being worse than Babylon, while still being led by Satan and being a member of his synagogue.

 

"If the church of God becomes LUKEWARM [LAODICEAN] it does not stand in favor with God any more than do the churches that are represented as having fallen and become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Those who have had opportunities to hear and receive the truth, and who have united with the Seventh-day Adventist church, calling themselves the commandment keeping people of God, and yet possess no more vitality and consecration to God than do the nominal churches, will receive of the plagues of God just as verily as the churches who oppose the law of God." E.G. White, Letter 35, 1898.

 

If Laodicea is not regarded with any more favor by God than the fallen churches, and the call of Laodicea is to all churches, then there is no difference between Laodicea and the fallen churches as far as being in a fallen state is concerned. Different churches believe different aspects of Babylonian teachings, but Ellen White equates them all as far as falling from the favor of God is concerned, and as far as constituting the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

 

"We must as a people arouse and cleanse the camp of Israel. Licentiousness, unlawful intimacy, and unholy practices are coming in among us in a large degree...We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing our churches to become corrupted and filled with every foul spirit, a cage for every unclean and hateful bird, and will we be clear unless we make decided movements to cure the existing evil? E. G. White, Manuscript Releases No. 449, pp. 17, 18. (Letter 51, 1886 to Elder Butler) Testimonies on Sexual Behavior, Adultery, and Divorce, p. 193.

 

"Now it is just EXACTLY as in the days of the Jews. When a message came in, why all the power of the leaders [such some leaders on this forum] WAS PUT AGAINST IT, THAT IT SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE. Now, brethren, GO TO GOD FOR YOURSELVES, and on your knees plead with God...If God sends us light, let it come to us, and let no man close the door, or try to close it. Don't close it yourselves. Open the door of your heart and let the brilliant rays of light shine into your heart and into your mind. I pray you, let the Sun of Righteousness in." E.G. White, Manuscript Release #900, Manuscript 9, 1890. 1888 Materials, p. 541.

Clark Floyd is right about one thing. There is no other church organization such as the Adventist German Reform Church or the Shepherd’s Rod.  God was removed from the SDA church by the Omega of Apostasy.  He has now taken the reins in His own hands and personally leads His people the earth over by His Spirit—His Holy Spirit.  Here is how it works:

"A Firmament of Chosen Ones.--Among earth's inhabitants, scattered in every land, there are those who have not bowed the knee to Ball. Like the stars of heaven, which appear only at night, these FAITHFUL ONES will shine forth when darkness covers the earth and gross darkness the people. In heathen Africa, in the Catholic lands of Europe and of South America, in China, in India, in the islands of the sea, and in all the dark corners of the earth, God has in reserve a firmament of CHOSEN ONES that will yet shine forth amidst the darkness, revealing clearly to an apostate world the transforming power of obedience to His law. Even now they are appearing IN EVERY NATION, AMONG EVERY TONGUE AND PEOPLE and in the hour of deepest apostasy, when Satan's supreme effort is made to cause 'all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,' to receive, under penalty of death, the sign of allegiance to a false rest day, these faithful ones, 'blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke,' will 'shine as light in the world.'" The darker the night, the more brilliantly will they shine." E.G. White, Evangelism,707, and Prophets and Kings, pp. 188, 189.

God bless,

Ron Beaulieu


Surrender fully to Jesus and you will be in the church triumphant!

Ron’s Commentary:  A full surrender to Jesus involves a full surrender to all of His instructions and His example.

 

Clark Floyd and his wife Mary reside in Leicester,

North Carolina. He is aboard member and a speaker

for Hope International.

 

Following is an addendum of material added by Ron Beaulieu:

 

"A Firmament of Chosen Ones.--Among earth's inhabitants, scattered in every land, there are those who have not bowed the knee to Ball. Like the stars of heaven, which appear only at night, these FAITHFUL ONES will shine forth when darkness covers the earth and gross darkness the people. In heathen Africa, in the Catholic lands of Europe and of South America, in China, in India, in the islands of the sea, and in all the dark corners of the earth, God has in reserve a firmament of CHOSEN ONES that will yet shine forth amidst the darkness, revealing clearly to an apostate world the transforming power of obedience to His law. Even now they are appearing IN EVERY NATION, AMONG EVERY TONGUE AND PEOPLE and in the hour of deepest apostasy, when Satan's supreme effort is made to cause 'all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,' to receive, under penalty of death, the sign of allegiance to a false rest day, these faithful ones, 'blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke,' will 'shine as light in the world.'" The darker the night, the more brilliantly will they shine." E.G. White, Evangelism, 707, and Prophets and Kings, pp. 188, 189.

 

Friend, you will see clearly from the following E.G. White account of the shaking that it is the careless and indifferent who are shaken out FROM THOSE WHO WERE VICTORIOUS.  Their message is TO LAODICEA from the Church Triumphant.

 

The Shaking

     I saw some, with strong faith and agonizing cries, pleading with God. Their countenances were pale and marked with deep anxiety, expressive of their internal struggle. Firmness and great earnestness was expressed in their countenances; large drops of perspiration fell from their foreheads. Now and then their faces would light up with the marks of God's approbation, and again the same solemn, earnest, anxious look would settle upon them. {EW 269.1}

     Evil angels crowded around, pressing darkness upon them to shut out Jesus from their view, that their eyes might be drawn to the darkness that surrounded them, and thus they be led to distrust God and murmur against Him. Their only safety was in keeping their eyes directed upward. Angels of God had charge over His people, and as the poisonous atmosphere of evil angels was pressed around these anxious ones, the
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heavenly angels were continually wafting their wings over them to scatter the thick darkness. {EW 269.2}

     As the praying ones continued their earnest cries, at times a ray of light from Jesus came to them, to encourage their hearts and light up their countenances. Some, I saw, did not participate in this work of agonizing and pleading. They seemed indifferent and careless. They were not resisting the darkness around them, and it shut them in like a thick cloud. The angels of God left these and went to the aid of the earnest, praying ones. I saw angels of God hasten to the assistance of all who were struggling with all their power to resist the evil angels and trying to help themselves by calling upon God with perseverance. But His angels left those who made no effort to help themselves, and I lost sight of them. {EW 270.1}

     I asked the meaning of the shaking I had seen and was shown that it would be caused by the straight testimony called forth by the counsel of the True Witness to the Laodiceans. This will have its effect upon the heart of the receiver, and will lead him to exalt the standard and pour forth the straight truth. Some will not bear this straight testimony. They will rise up against it, and this is what will cause a shaking among God's people. {EW 270.2}

     I saw that the testimony of the True Witness has not been half heeded. The solemn testimony upon which the destiny of the church hangs has been lightly esteemed, if not entirely disregarded. This testimony must work deep repentance; all who truly receive it will obey it and be purified. {EW 270.3}

     Said the angel, "List ye!" Soon I heard a voice like many musical instruments all sounding in perfect strains, sweet and harmonious. It surpassed any music I had ever heard, seeming to be full of mercy, compassion, and elevating, holy joy. It thrilled through
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my whole being. Said the angel, "Look ye!" My attention was then turned to the company I had seen, who were mightily shaken. I was shown those whom I had before seen weeping and praying in agony of spirit. The company of guardian angels around them had been doubled, and they were clothed with an armor from their head to their feet. They moved in exact order, like a company of soldiers. Their countenances expressed the severe conflict which they had endured, the agonizing struggle they had passed through. Yet their features, marked with severe internal anguish, now shone with the light and glory of heaven. They had obtained the victory, and it called forth from them the deepest gratitude and holy, sacred joy. {EW 270.4}

     The numbers of this company had lessened. Some had been shaken out and left by the way. The careless and indifferent, who did not join with those who prized victory and salvation enough to perseveringly plead and agonize for it, did not obtain it, and they were left behind in darkness, and their places were immediately filled by others taking hold of the truth and coming into the ranks. Evil angels still pressed around them, but could have no power over them. {EW 271.1}

     I heard those clothed with the armor speak forth the truth with great power. It had effect. Many had been bound; some wives by their husbands, and some children by their parents. The honest who had been prevented from hearing the truth now eagerly laid hold upon it. All fear of their relatives was gone, and the truth alone was exalted to them. They had been hungering and thirsting for truth; it was dearer and more precious than life. I asked what had made this great change. An angel answered, "It is the latter rain, the refreshing from the presence of the Lord, the loud cry of the third angel."
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{EW 271.2}

     Great power was with these chosen ones. Said the angel, "Look ye!" My attention was turned to the wicked, or unbelievers. They were all astir. The zeal and power with the people of God had aroused and enraged them. Confusion, confusion, was on every side. I saw measures taken against the company who had the light and power of God. Darkness thickened around them; yet they stood firm, approved of God, and trusting in Him. I saw them perplexed; next I heard them crying unto God earnestly. Day and night their cry ceased not: "Thy will, O God, be done! If it can glorify Thy name, make a way of escape for Thy people! Deliver us from the heathen around about us. They have appointed us unto death; but Thine arm can bring salvation." These are all the words which I can bring to mind. All seemed to have a deep sense of their unworthiness and manifested entire submission to the will of God; yet, like Jacob, every one, without an exception, was earnestly pleading and wrestling for deliverance. {EW 272.1}

     Soon after they had commenced their earnest cry, the angels, in sympathy, desired to go to their deliverance. But a tall, commanding angel suffered them not. He said, "The will of God is not yet fulfilled. They must drink of the cup. They must be baptized with the baptism." {EW 272.2}

     Soon I heard the voice of God, which shook the heavens and the earth. There was a mighty earthquake. Buildings were shaken down on every side. I then heard a triumphant shout of victory, loud, musical, and clear. I looked upon the company, who, a short time before, were in such distress and bondage. Their captivity was turned. A glorious light shone upon them. How beautiful they then looked! All marks of care and weariness were gone, and health and beauty were seen in every countenance. Their
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enemies, the heathen around them, fell like dead men; they could not endure the light that shone upon the delivered, holy ones. This light and glory remained upon them, until Jesus was seen in the clouds of heaven, and the faithful, tried company were changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, from glory to glory. And the graves were opened, and the saints came forth, clothed with immortality, crying, "Victory over death and the grave"; and together with the living saints they were caught up to meet their Lord in the air, while rich, musical shouts of glory and victory were upon every immortal tongue.

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               The Sins of Babylon

     I saw that since the second angel proclaimed the fall of the churches, they have been growing more and more corrupt. They bear the name of being Christ's followers; yet it is impossible to distinguish them from the world. Ministers take their texts from the Word of God, but preach smooth things. To this the natural heart feels no objection. It is only the spirit and power of the truth and the salvation of Christ that are hateful to the carnal heart. There is nothing in the popular ministry that stirs the wrath of Satan, makes the sinner tremble, or applies to the heart and conscience the fearful realities of a judgment soon to come. Wicked men are generally pleased with a form of piety without true godliness, and they will aid and support such a religion. {EW 273.1}

     Said the angel, "Nothing less than the whole armor of righteousness can enable man to overcome the powers of darkness and retain the victory over them. Satan has taken full possession of the churches as a body.
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The sayings and doings of men are dwelt upon instead of the plain, cutting truths of the Word of God. The spirit and friendship of the world are at enmity with God. When the truth in its simplicity and strength, as it is in Jesus, is brought to bear against the spirit of the world, it at once awakens the spirit of persecution. Very many who profess to be Christians have not known God. The natural heart has not been changed, and the carnal mind remains at enmity with God. They are Satan's faithful servants, notwithstanding they have assumed another name." {EW 273.2}

     I saw that since Jesus left the holy place of the heavenly sanctuary and entered within the second veil, the churches have been filling up with every unclean and hateful bird. I saw great iniquity and vileness in the churches; yet their members profess to be Christians. Their profession, their prayers, and their exhortations are an abomination in the sight of God. Said the angel, "God will not smell in their assemblies. Selfishness, fraud, and deceit are practiced by them without the reprovings of conscience. And over all these evil traits they throw the cloak of religion." I was shown the pride of the nominal churches. God is not in their thoughts; their carnal minds dwell upon themselves; they decorate their poor mortal bodies, and then look upon themselves with satisfaction and pleasure. Jesus and the angels look upon them in anger. Said the angel, "Their sins and pride have reached unto heaven. Their portion is prepared. Justice and judgment have slumbered long, but will soon awake. Vengeance is Mine, I will repay, saith the Lord." The fearful threatenings of the third angel are to be realized, and all the wicked are to drink of the wrath of God. An innumerable host of evil angels are spreading over the whole land and crowding the churches. These agents of Satan look upon the religious bodies
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with exultation, for the cloak of religion covers the greatest crime and iniquity. {EW 274.1}

     All heaven beholds with indignation human beings, the workmanship of God, reduced by their fellow men to the lowest depths of degradation and placed on a level with the brute creation. Professed followers of that dear Saviour whose compassion was ever moved at the sight of human woe, heartily engage in this enormous and grievous sin, and deal in slaves and souls of men. Human agony is carried from place to place and bought and sold. Angels have recorded it all; it is written in the book. The tears of the pious bondmen and bondwomen, of fathers, mothers, and children, brothers and sisters, are all bottled up in heaven. God will restrain His anger but little longer. His wrath burns against this nation and especially against the religious bodies that have sanctioned this terrible traffic and have themselves engaged in it. Such injustice, such oppression, such sufferings, are looked upon with heartless indifference by many professed followers of the meek and lowly Jesus. And many of them can themselves inflict, with hateful satisfaction, all this indescribable agony; and yet they dare to worship God. It is solemn mockery; Satan exults over it and reproaches Jesus and His angels with such inconsistency, saying, with hellish triumph, "Such are Christ's followers!" {EW 275.1}

     These professed Christians read of the sufferings of the martyrs, and tears course down their cheeks. They wonder that men could ever become so hardened as to practice such cruelty toward their fellow men. Yet those who think and speak thus are at the same time holding human beings in slavery. And this is not all; they sever the ties of nature and cruelly oppress their fellow men. They can inflict most inhuman torture with the same relentless cruelty manifested by
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papists and heathen toward Christ's followers. Said the angel, "It will be more tolerable for the heathen and for papists in the day of the execution of God's judgment than for such men." The cries of the oppressed have reached unto heaven, and angels stand amazed at the untold, agonizing sufferings which man, formed in the image of his Maker, causes his fellow man. Said the angel, "The names of the oppressors are written in blood, crossed with stripes, and flooded with agonizing, burning tears of suffering. God's anger will not cease until He has caused this land of light to drink the dregs of the cup of His fury, until He has rewarded unto Babylon double. Reward her even as she rewarded you, double unto her double according to her works; in the cup which she hath filled, fill to her double." {EW 275.2}

     I saw that the slave master [SEE APPENDIX.] will have to answer for the soul of his slave whom he has kept in ignorance; and the sins of the slave will be visited upon the master. God cannot take to heaven the slave who has been kept in ignorance and degradation, knowing nothing of God or the Bible, fearing nothing but his master's lash, and holding a lower position than the brutes. But He does the best thing for him that a compassionate God can do. He permits him to be as if he had not been, while the master must endure the seven last plagues and then come up in the second resurrection and suffer the second, most awful death. Then the justice of God will be satisfied.


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                  The Loud Cry

     I saw angels hurrying to and fro in heaven, descending to the earth, and again ascending to heaven, preparing for the fulfillment of some important event. Then I saw another mighty angel commissioned to descend to the earth, to unite his voice with the third angel, and give power and force to his message. Great power and glory were imparted to the angel, and as he descended, the earth was lightened with his glory. The light which attended this angel penetrated everywhere, as he cried mightily, with a strong voice, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." The message of the fall of Babylon, as given by the second angel, is repeated, with the additional mention of the corruptions which have been entering the churches since 1844. The work of this angel comes in at the right time to join in the last great work of the third angel's message as it swells to a loud cry. And the people of God are thus prepared to stand in the hour of temptation, which they are soon to meet. I saw a great light resting upon them, and they united to fearlessly proclaim the third angel's message. {EW 277.1}

     Angels were sent to aid the mighty angel from heaven, and I heard voices which seemed to sound everywhere, "Come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." This message seemed to be an addition to the third message, joining it as the midnight cry joined the second angel's message in 1844. The glory of God rested upon the
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patient, waiting saints, and they fearlessly gave the last solemn warning, proclaiming the fall of Babylon and calling upon God's people to come out of her that they might escape her fearful doom. {EW 277.2}

     The light that was shed upon the waiting ones penetrated everywhere, and those in the churches who had any light, who had not heard and rejected the three messages, obeyed the call and left the fallen churches. Many had come to years of accountability since these messages had been given, and the light shone upon them, and they were privileged to choose life or death. Some chose life and took their stand with those who were looking for their Lord and keeping all His commandments. The third message was to do its work; all were to be tested upon it, and the precious ones were to be called out from the religious bodies. A compelling power moved the honest, while the manifestation of the power of God brought a fear and restraint upon their unbelieving relatives and friends so that they dared not, neither had they the power to, hinder those who felt the work of the Spirit of God upon them. The last call was carried even to the poor slaves, and the pious among them poured forth their songs of rapturous joy at the prospect of their happy deliverance. Their masters could not check them; fear and astonishment kept them silent. Mighty miracles were wrought, the sick were healed, and signs and wonders followed the believers. God was in the work, and every saint, fearless of consequences, followed the convictions of his own conscience and united with those who were keeping all the commandments of God; and with power they sounded abroad the third message. I saw that this message will close with power and strength far exceeding the midnight cry. {EW 278.1}

     Servants of God, endowed with power from on high
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with their faces lighted up, and shining with holy consecration, went forth to proclaim the message from heaven. Souls that were scattered all through the religious bodies answered to the call, and the precious were hurried out of the doomed churches, as Lot was hurried out of Sodom before her destruction. God's people were strengthened by the excellent glory which rested upon them in rich abundance and prepared them to endure the hour of temptation. I heard everywhere a multitude of voices saying, "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."

 

Friends, the church leaders have selected the following quotes to make SDA’s think that Ellen White left an encouraging report for the outcome of the SDA church militant.  But if Ellen White had done that, she would have contradicted and contravened Scripture.  Ezekiel 22:17-31 tells where the tares are burned.  Ezekiel 9 says where the destruction will begin for all who will not sigh and cry for the abominations that are IN THE CHURCH.  Ellen White said that Ezekiel 9 will be LITERALLY REPEATED.  So when you read statements like:

“Let all be careful not to make an outcry against the only people who are fulfilling the description given of the remnant people, who keep the commandments of God and have faith in Jesus. . . . God has a distinct people, a church on earth, second to none, but superior to all in their facilities to teach the truth, to vindicate the law of God. . . . My brother, if you are teaching that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is Babylon, you are wrong.”--TM 50, 58, 59 (1893). [THE BOOK OF REVELATION FOCUSES ON TWO SETS OF GOD'S PEOPLE--THE VISIBLE REMNANT (12:17) AND "MY PEOPLE" IN BABYLON (18:4).  THIS CHAPTER DEALS WITH THE FORMER, AND CHAPTER 14, "THE LOUD CRY," DEALS WITH THE LATTER.] {LDE 43.3}

 

You had better know who the remnant people are, and that they will indeed KEEP the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus and faith in Jesus.  Ellen White said that the church was worse than Babylon and steadily retreating toward Egypt, unbelief, atheism.  I do not say that the church is technically spiritual Babylon, for that designation is for Rome and her daughters.  But to be worse than Babylon is not consoling alternative, and Ellen White said that Laodiceans are worse than heathen graven image worshippers.  Many SDAs no longer believe in the 6 day creation week.  They do not believe God’s prophet, Ellen White.  They have broken God’s commands and she says they will instruct the people to keep Sunday sacred before it is all over.  She said that every uncouth thing would be brought into our camp-meetings JUST BEFORE THE CLOSE OF PROBATION. 

It is best that you discover what all the great abominations are that the church militant is committing and for which you are to sigh and cry.  There is destruction of Jerusalem associated with Ezekiel 9, so you had better be able to distinguish True Jerusalem from False Jerusalem—the “grisled horse” church versus the “bay horse” true Jerusalem that will be the New Jerusalem.  The “bay horse” church now meets in home churches around the world.  There are thousands of them the world over.