Indisputable Proof of Earth's Rotation

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I asked the Lord to show me the answer to this issue which has been raging for centuries. It is thought even by some professing Seventh-day Adventists, even some SDA reformers, that the Bible teaches Geocentricity. If that is the case, then Ellen White would be at serious variance with the Bible. For me and my house, this document confirms the irrefutable truth that the earth moves and thus corroborates Ellen White’s statements that the earth moves around the sun. If the earth was stationary, a pendulum would move in the same course every cycle relative to a measuring device below its traverse route, but that does not occur.

 

Geocentrists http://www.geocentricity.com/ believe that they have an air-tight case based on the following bible statements:

 

“The second of these two concerns: how the Bible's authority is weakened by heliocentrism; stems from the firm manner in which the Bible teaches Geocentricity. Geocentric verses range from those with only a positional import, such as references to "up" and "down;" through the question of just what the earth was "orbiting" the first three days while it awaited the creation of the sun; to overt references such as Ecclesiastes 1, verse 5:

 

The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

 

Perhaps the strongest geocentric verse in the Bible is Joshua 10:13:

 

And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

 

Here the Moderator of Scripture, the Holy Ghost Himself, endorses the daily movement of the sun and moon. After all, God could just as well have written: "And the earth stopped turning, so that the sun appeared to stand still, and the moon seemed to stay ... ." That wording would be no more "confusing" to the reader than anything in Job chapters 38 through 41. There are those who would claim that the language used is phenomenological, that it was not meant to convey the truth of the matter. They like to equate Joshua 10:13 with verses like Isaiah 55:12 where the trees are said to "clap their hands." The problem with that is that everyone since Adam can understand that Isaiah 55:12 is a literary device; but there is not a clue to tell those before Copernicus that Joshua 10:13 is not to be taken literally.”

 

Indeed, at first thought, the Geocentrists seem to have a loophole free argument! We will treat the above Bible verses further along in this document. But first, let us examine some evidence in another direction.

 

At this link: http://lhsgems.org/rotates.html notice the following statement:

It fell to French physicist Leon Foucault to offer indisputable proof of Earth's rotation. He did so in a novel manner. Realizing that the free fall of a weight was difficult to measure accurately, he began experimenting in his cellar using a 2-meter pendulum with a 5-kilogram bob.

On February 3, 1851 he presented his experiment to his colleagues, and Prince Louis Bonaparte asked him to give a public demonstration. The scene could hardly have been more dramatic. Foucault set up a pendulum more than 60 meters long hanging from the domed ceiling of the Pantheon in Paris. The pendulum never retraced its path as each swing deviated to the right, which meant that the floor of the Pantheon was moving! Foucault had at last provided the first dynamical proof of Earth's rotation. Foucault pendulums now hold a place of honor in science museums worldwide.”

Watch an animation of this principle associated with the pendulum at this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum

 

Ellen White on the Movement of the Earth

 

"This is false science; there is nothing in the word of God to sustain it. God does not annul His laws, but He is continually working through them, using them as His instruments. They are not self-working. God is perpetually at work in nature. She is His servant, directed as He pleases. Nature in her work testifies of the intelligent presence and active agency of a being who moves in all His works according to His will. It is not by an original power inherent in nature that year by year the earth yields its bounties and continues its march around the sun. The hand of infinite power is perpetually at work guiding this planet. It is God’s power momentarily exercised that keeps it in position in its rotation." {8T 259.4}

 

"The Levites, in their hymn recorded by Nehemiah, sung, “Thou, even thou, art Lord alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things therein, ... and thou preservest them all.” [Nehemiah 9:6.] As regards this world, God’s work of creation is completed. For “the works were finished from the foundation of the world.” [Hebrews 4:3.] But his energy is still exerted in upholding the objects of his creation. It is not because the mechanism that has once been set in motion continues to act by its own inherent energy, that the pulse beats, and breath follows breath; but every breath, every pulsation of the heart is an evidence of the all-pervading care of Him in whom “we live, and move, and have our being.” [Acts 17:28.] It is not because of inherent power that year by year the earth produces her bounties, and continues her motion around the sun. The hand of God guides the planets, and keeps them in position in their orderly march through the heavens. He “bringeth out their host by number; he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.” [Isaiah 40:26.] It is through his power that vegetation flourishes, that the leaves appear, and the flowers bloom. He “maketh grass to grow upon the mountains,” and by him the valleys are made fruitful. All the beasts of the field seek their meat from God, [Psalm 147:8; 104:20, 21.] and every living creature, from the smallest insect up to man, is daily dependent upon his providential care. In the beautiful words of the psalmist, “These wait all upon thee.... That thou givest them they gather; thou openest thine hand, they are filled with good.” [Psalm 104:27, 28.] His word controls the elements, he covers the heavens with clouds, and prepares rain for the earth. “He giveth snow like wool; he scattereth the hoarfrost like ashes.” “When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.” [Psalm 147:16; Jeremiah 10:13.] {CE 195.1}

 

I know of an SDA who prefers the teachings of Hildegard von Bingen, over the gift of prophecy to the church via Ellen White. Hildegard von Bingen was a Catholic false prophet. We are so blessed to have a true prophet in Ellen G. White.

 

Go to the following Website http://galileowaswrong.blogspot.com/p/books.html and then click on chapter 16.

 

Or click on the following link:

 

http://galileowaswrong.com/galileowaswrong/samples/PDF%20Chapter%2016%20Sample.pdf

 

From the above link: “The woman was Hildegard von Bingen, the eleventh century German mystic and Benedictine Abbess whom some call “The most gifted woman of the epoch.” She was born in 1098 and died at the age of 81, in 1179. Her complete story is truly amazing, but, of course, we are only interested in her cosmological revelations.”

 

To some, even SDA’s, the concept of Heliocentricity and its advocates, such as Ellen White, are foolish. But God uses the weak and uneducated of the world to confound the “wise” and the “mighty.”

 

1Cr 1:27    But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

 

The process of thinking “within the box” only, via “either/or” thinking, can get us into trouble, for there are often other options we have not considered. So when we confront a problem that seems to be at variance with Scripture and/or the Spirit of Prophecy, it is wisest to put it on the shelf and pray about it until we receive some other “irrefutable” answers that solve the mystery and put all the evidence in a perspective so that nothing contradicts.

 

I will take Ellen White’s view over that of Hildegard von Bingen’s!

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Beaulieu

To: Adventist Hot Issues

Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:38 AM

Subject: Movement of the earth and sun

 

 

Is it possible that the earth moves around the sun and the sun moves around the earth; that BOTH are correct? I don't like entering such disputes as cannot be proven, but this is food for thought. Ellen White speaks of the earth moving around the sun. The Bible mentions the sun being made to stand still at a certain time. Could both be correct? Personally, I would rather stick with salvific issues, but all are free to discuss this issue as they wish.

 

http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/cosmic_kids/AskKids/sunmove.shtml

 

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/03/does-the-earth-move-around-the-sun/

 

Why does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?

http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question14.html

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Beaulieu

To: Adventist Hot Issues

Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:41 AM

Subject: Movement of the Planets

 

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread73370/pg1

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Beaulieu

To: Adventist Hot Issues

Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:57 AM

Subject: Quite Convincing!

 

Looks like Ellen White was right!

http://lhsgems.org/rotates.html

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Beaulieu

To: Adventist Hot Issues

Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:19 AM

Subject: How might the sun stop?

 

The sun may have stopped because the earth stopped or the earth and/or sun/earth slowed in relative motion of one another if both move.

 

Addendum:

 

Galileo was right. Rome, the false prophet and her false prophets were/are wrong. And should we suspect the truth about Rome to be anything else!?

Publication of Letter to the Grand Duchess (1615) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism

"In a Letter to the Grand Duchess Christina, Galileo defended heliocentrism, and claimed it was not contrary to Scriptures (see Galileo affair). He took Augustine's position on Scripture: not to take every passage literally when the scripture in question is a book of poetry and songs, not a book of instructions or history. The writers of the Scripture wrote from the perspective of the terrestrial world, and from that vantage point the sun does rise and set. In fact, it is the Earth's rotation which gives the impression of the sun in motion across the sky."

 

Ron

 

 

—rwb