Ellen White Says God Kills no Man!

Ernie Knoll Says God Kills

“To be sure of their validity, it is important to remember that all instructions must be carefully compared against God’s Word in the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy.” Ernie Knoll, Regarding Angels dream.

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In Ernie Knoll’s dream on angels at this link, he makes the statement I quote below: http://www.formypeople.org/En/61_regarding_angels.shtml\

“There are those who falsely believe that because God is love, He will not destroy or kill. However, who destroyed the earth with a worldwide flood? Many claim that God allowed Satan to do it. That is foolish talk. It is written that even Satan feared for his own life during the great flood. Why would he be afraid if he was the one destroying the earth? God will destroy, and He will make all things new. Sin and sinners will be destroyed by the very hand of the Creator.”

Ron responds:

This issue is so important at the end-time because the last message of mercy to the world is a revelation of the character of God, who is a God of love and a God who does not kill in violation of His own commandments. Satan accused God of violating His own law. Now Ernie Knoll is making the same accusation. Why? Because the source of his dreams is the same source that accused God of not being subject to His own commandments.

It is the god of all false religions that condones killing.

The test of truth by way of visions and/or dreams is whether or not the person speaks according to the Bible and the Testimonies of the Spirit of Prophecy. Once again, Ernie Knoll is found to directly contradict the Spirit of Prophecy gift to the church via Ellen G. White. Ernie is in effect saying that the following statements by Ellen G. White are FOOLISH TALK. He is thus speaking against the Holy Ghost and we know what the Bible says about those who do that. That is unpardonable sin.

Here are some statements by Ellen White that God does not kill. Though there are many texts in the Bible that “appear” as though God is doing the killing, it is sin and separation from God and His protection that permits Satan, the murderer from the beginning, to do the killing. And though it sounds as if Satan is destroyed by God at the end of this earth, it will be separation from God that results in the destruction of this world and all unrepentant sinners, as was the case in the flood.

"God destroys no one." Testimonies, Vol. 5, 120.

"God destroys no man. Everyone who is destroyed will have destroyed himself." Christ's Object Lessons, 84.

“I was shown that the judgments of God would not come directly out from the Lord upon them, but in this way: They place themselves beyond His protection. He warns, corrects, reproves, and points out the only path of safety; then, if those who have been the objects of His special care will follow their own course, independent of the Spirit of God, after repeated warnings, if they choose their own way, then He does not commission His angels to prevent Satan’s decided attacks upon them.” {LDE 242.1}

“It is Satan’s power that is at work at sea and on land, bringing calamity and distress and sweeping off multitudes to make sure of his prey.”—Manuscript Releases 14:3 (1883). {LDE 242.2}

“God will use His enemies as instruments to punish those who have followed their own pernicious ways whereby the truth of God has been misrepresented, misjudged, and dishonored.”—The Paulson Collection of Ellen G. White Letters, 136 (1894). {LDE 242.3}

"God does not stand toward the sinner as an executioner of the sentence against transgression; but He leaves the rejecters of His mercy to themselves, to reap that which they have sown. Every ray of light rejected, every warning despised or unheeded, every passion indulged, every transgression of the law of God, is a seed sown, which yields its unfailing harvest. The Spirit of God, persistently resisted, is at last withdrawn from the sinner, and then there is left no power to control the evil passions of the soul, and no protections from the malice and enmity of Satan." The Great Controversy, p. 36.

“I was shown that the judgments of God would not come directly out from the Lord upon them, but in this way: They place themselves beyond His protection. …[After] repeated warnings, if they choose their own way, then He does not commission His angels to prevent Satan's decided attacks upon them. {LDE 242.1}

“The apostle John in vision heard a loud voice in Heaven exclaiming, "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time." [Revelation 12:12.] Fearful are the scenes which call forth this exclamation from the heavenly voice. The wrath of Satan increases as his time grows short, and his work of deceit and destruction reaches its culmination in the time of trouble. God's long-suffering has ended.

Why?

The world has rejected his mercy, despised his love, and trampled upon his law. The wicked have passed the boundary of their probation, and the Lord withdraws his protection, and leaves them to the mercy of the leader they have chosen. Satan will have power over those who have yielded themselves to his control, and he will plunge the inhabitants of the earth into one great, final trouble. As the angels of God cease to hold in check the fierce winds of human passion, all the elements of strife will be let loose. The whole world will be involved in ruin more terrible than that which came upon Jerusalem of old.” {4SP 440.3}

I have no doubt that I could read through Ernie’s Knoll’s dreams and find many similar sayings that contradict the Bible and/or the Spirit of Prophecy, but need I say more?!

Ernie says: “I am told that few have received dreams from God with instructions of how to give to the For My People Ministry. Those who have heard God’s voice instructing them to give much, have given much to equip a soldier for war. A soldier is not expected to go to battle without the proper equipment. Each is to know that as the new year begins, what is written in Joel 2:28 and Acts 2:17 will be fulfilled with great intensity. Many will receive dreams or visions. After the required testing, the source of dreams or visions will be made clear. Many will simply hear the voice of the Holy Spirit speaking to them. “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” Isaiah 8:20. “Quench not the Spirit. Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” 1 Thessalonians 5:19-21.

Ernie further states in the same dream:

“Let those who hear pastors denounce these dreams sent from God, ask that their claims be clarified and backed up with proof from the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy as to why these dreams are not from God. If the pastors cannot do this, let all proclaim in a unified voice as God’s church that the pastors blaspheme against God’s Word. Let the pastors humble themselves before the Lord. The Herald looks at me and says that there is evidence in heaven, and it is recorded, that I never claimed the dreams that have been posted are not of God. Those who make this statement do not understand the truth. To set the record straight, during the confusion when the first ministry was being shut down, Becky sent out emails stating that the posted dreams were not from God. She signed the emails with my name as well as her own. Let those who have questions come to the For My People Ministry meetings to obtain answers. Let no one be deceived. Ask for clarity, because He who sits on the throne seeks for truth. As Earnest, I am required at the Father’s command to speak and share only the truth.”

I have given you the proof in a number of different documents as to how Ernie’s dreams contradict the Bible and Ellen White. And I am not done yet! The two-edged sword that cuts any which way it is moved gets sharper as the shaking advances.

I followed Ernie’s advice. I compare his dreams to the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy and find them mixed with error on an issue so serious as to involve what Ellen White defined as the final message of God’s mercy to a dying world—the character of God’s love.

To better understand this all important issue as to who kills, download F.T. Wright’s book Behold Your God, from my Website. Read the chapter on the flood first. It is positively amazing!

—rwb