Scripture and Ellen G. White on the Absolute Deity of Christ

Adapted From a Study by Irwin Roy Gane

 

 

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ELLEN G. WHITE ON THE ABSOLUTE DEITY OF CHRIST

In this chapter the purpose of the writer is to trace in brief outline the teachings of Ellen G. White on the pre-existence and Deity of Christ. The two fundamental questions to be answered are, (1) did Ellen G. White support the view of the Adventist Arians that there was a time when Christ did not exist and, (2) did she concur with their teaching that Christ as God, was, and is, subordinate to the Father?

THE ETERNAL PRE-EXISTENCE OF CHRIST

Ellen G. White stated categorically many times that there never was a time when Christ did not exist. He was not brought into existence by the Father either by a process of creation or of eternal generation. He has always been with the Father. He did not have a beginning. The following are just a few of the many quotations that could be cited as proof that this was her view:

“But the life of Christ was unborrowed. No one can take this life from Him. "I lay it down of Myself." (John 10:18), He said. In Him was life, original, unborrowed, underived.” E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, l958), p. 296. Citing The Signs of the Times, April 8, 1897.

“He is the eternal self-existent Son.” E. G. White, Evangelism (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1946), p. 615. Citing Manuscript 101, 1897.

“But while God‘s Word speaks of the humanity of Christ when upon this earth, it also speaks decidedly regarding His pre-existence. The Word existed as a divine being, even as the eternal Son of God, in union and oneness with His Father.” E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1958), p. 247. Citing Review and Herald, April 5, 1906.

“Christ is the pre-existent, self-existent Son of God. . . . In speaking of his pre-existence, Christ carries the mind back through dateless ages. He assures us that there never was a time when he was not in close fellowship with the eternal God.” E. G. White, Evangelism (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1946), p. 615. Citing The Signs of the Times, August 29, 1900.

“Christ shows then that, although they might reckon His life to be less than fifty years, yet His divine life could not be reckoned by human computation. The existence of Christ before His incarnation is not measured by figures.” The Signs of the Times, August 29, 1900. Ibid., p. 616. Citing The Signs of the Times, May 3, 1899.

From eternity Christ has been man’s Redeemer.” E.G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. IX (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1909), p, 220.

The Adventist Arians had seen the THREE PERSONS position as destructive of the truth of the atonement, but in 1898 Ellen G. White demonstrated that their own view produced that unfortunate result. She wrote:

"In consenting to become man, Christ manifested a humility that is the marvel of the heavenly intelligences. The act of consenting to be a man would be no humiliation were it not for the fact of Christ’s exalted pre-existence.” E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D. C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1958), p. 243. Citing The Youth’s Instructor, October 13, 1898.

Thus it was "Christ’s exalted pre-existence" that rendered the incarnation a humiliation and qualified Christ to atone for human sin. Beings whose existence was purely derived could never have paid the price of human redemption.

Note by Ron: The Testator was DIVINE ONLY when He made the Testator's Testament (Covenant):

Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

The Testator was not Incarnated when He made the Testator's Covenant. The Testator had to be God to Testate the Everlasting Covenant. The Testament is of no force while the Testator lives. Something about the Testator had to "die" FOREVER, for the wages of sin is eternal death, NOT THREE DAYS IN A TOMB. The humanity of Christ lives. So the death of His humanity could not atone for sin. What He "died" to eternally was being DIVINE ONLY. He retains His humanity forever says Scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy. Ellen White said that divinity did not die on the cross. Humanity could not atone for our sin because Christ's humanity was not the Testator, and His humanity is alive.

"He (Christ) suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which WAS His." Desire of Ages, p. 25 1 Cor. 11:24-265, cf. John 6:53, 54, Titus 3:5, 6.

 

·       What death was ours? Eternal death for the wages of sin is just that.

·       What life was His? The life He gives to us is His ETERNAL LIFE, His Holy Spirit DIVINE NATURE (ONLY) life. That is what was Testated for us.

·       The human life of Christ died for only three days. That is not the penalty for the wages of our sin.

·       At Christ’s baptism His Holy Spirit came down to Him in the form of a dove. He could have returned to that former existence as being DIVINE ONLY, until when just before He died on the cross, He committed His DIVINE HOLY SPIRIT to the Father as a gift for us--eternal life, the highest good, crowing gift that heaven can bestow. That was the second death of His Divine life--the first death being at His Incarnation and by death I mean no more existence IN HIS DIVINE ONLY LIFE ALONE, WHICH HE HAD POSSESSED FROM ETERNITY. HE COULD HAVE RETURNED TO THAT DIVINE ONLY EXISTENCE JUST BEFORE HE DIED ON THE CROSS, but that would have annulled the Atonement. End note by Ron.

Christ was God essentially, and in the highest sense. He was with God from all eternity, God over all, blessed forevermore….” E. G. White, "The Word Made Flesh," Review and Herald, LXXXIII (April 5, 1906), 8. Cited by 5 BC, 1126.

“The only way in which the fallen race could be restored was through the gift of his Son, equal with himself, possessing the attributes of God. Though so highly exalted, Christ consented to assume human nature, that he might work in behalf of man, and reconcile to God his disloyal subjects.” E. G. White, "Imperative Necessity of Searching for Truth," Review and Herald, LXIX (November 8, 1892), 690.

“Yet the Son of God was the acknowledged Sovereign of heaven, one in power and authority with the Father.” E. G. White, The Great Controversy (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1888), p. 495.

“To save the transgressor of God’s law, Christ, the one equal with the Father, came to live heaven before men, that they might learn to know what it is to have heaven in the heart.” E. G. White, Fundamentals of Christian Education (Nashville, Tenn.: Southern Publishing Association, 1923), p. 179. Citing Review and Herald, November 17, 1891.

Some have regarded this equality with the Father as having been conferred upon Christ. His is said to be a delegated authority, hence He is not the supreme God in the same sense as is the Father. This, of course, could not be true since "Christ was God essentially, and in the highest sense." E. G. White, "The Word Made Flesh," Review and Herald, LXXXIII (April 5, 1906), 8. Cited by 5 BC, 1126.

But those who have propagated this view find what appears to be support for it in The Spirit of Prophecy, Volume 1:

"The great Creator assembled the heavenly host, that He might in the presence of all the angels confer special honor upon His Son. The Son was seated on the throne with the Father, and the heavenly throng of Holy Angels was gathered around them. The Father then made known that it was ordained by Himself, that Christ His Son should be equal with Himself, so that wherever was the presence of His Son, it was as His own presence. The word of His Son was to be obeyed as readily as the word of the Father. His Son He had invested with authority to command the heavenly host. Especially was the Son to work in union with Himself in the anticipated creation of the earth. His Son would carry out His will and His purposes, but would do nothing of Himself alone. The Father’s will would be fulfilled in Him.” E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. I (Battle Creek, Steam Press of the Seventh-day Adventist Publishing Association, 1870) pp. 17, 18. Ibid., p. 18.

There followed considerable altercation between the angels supporting Lucifer and those supporting Christ. The loyal angels sought to convince the disloyal of the justice of God:

“They clearly set forth that Jesus was the Son of God, existing with him before the angels were created; and that he had ever stood at the right hand of God and his mild, loving authority had not heretofore been questioned….” Ibid., p. 18.

There are two interpretations to this whole passage. One is that of the Arians who would contend that the Father had conferred supreme power and authority equal to His own upon Christ. The other is that the passage refers to an announcement to the angels of a situation that had existed from the ages of eternity. According to this latter interpretation Christ had always been in the position of complete equality with the Father as the supreme Sovereign of heaven, but because of the defection of Lucifer and because of his subtle insinuations a special reiteration of Christ’s exalted position was necessary. The very fact that the loyal angels urged the unchanged status of Christ as an argument for accepting the Father’s announcement proves that the announcement was not the inauguration of something new, but a definition and declaration of the position which Christ had always sustained.

That this is the only tenable interpretation of the passage is effectively demonstrated by reference to a parallel passage in Patriarchs and Prophets:

"The exaltation of the Son of God as equal with the Father was represented as an injustice to Lucifer, who, it was claimed, was also entitled to reverence and honor. If this prince of angels could but attain to his true, exalted position, great good would accrue to the entire host of heaven; for it was his object to secure freedom for all. But now even the liberty which they had hitherto enjoyed was at an end; for an absolute ruler had been appointed them, and to his authority all must pay homage. Such were the subtle deceptions that through the wiles of Lucifer were fast obtaining in the heavenly courts.

There had been no change in the position or authority of Christ. Lucifer’s envy and misrepresentation, and his claims to equality with Christ, had made necessary a statement of the true position of the Son of God; but this had been the same from the beginning.” E. G. White, Patriarchs and Prophets (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1890), pp. 37, 38.

This passage is in complete agreement with the former one. The Spirit of Prophecy, Volume 1, was published in 1870 and Patriarchs and Prophets in 1890, but the view of the question as presented in both is identical. The proclamation by the Father of the position of the Son was a necessary restatement of a situation that had never been otherwise. If Ellen G. White had intended to convey that Christ was elevated by the Father to His position of equality she would have been contradicting her other utterances to the effect that "Christ was God essentially, and in the highest sense. he was God from all eternity, God over all blessed forevermore….”  E. G. White, "The Word Made Flesh," Review and Herald, LXXXIII (April 5, 1906), 8. Cited by 5 BC, 1126.

CHRIST EQUAL WITH THE FATHER DURING THE INCARNATION

There is no intimation in the writings of Ellen G. White that when He took on human nature, Christ ceased to be God equal with the Father. On the contrary she abundantly testifies to Christ’s complete equality with the Father at every stage of His earthly existence. As a babe in the manger He was still the mighty God:

"How wide is the contrast between the divinity of Christ and the helpless infant in Bethlehem’s manger! How can we span the distance between the mighty God and a helpless child? And yet the Creator of worlds, He in whom was the fullness of the Godhead bodily, was manifest in the helpless babe in the manger. Far higher than any of the angels, equal with the Father in dignity and glory and yet wearing the garb of humanity! Divinity and humanity were mysteriously combined, and man and God became one.” E. G. White, "Child Life of Jesus," The Signs of the Times, (July 30, 1896), 5.

Note by Ron: It is a mystery that Ellen White says we will study for eternity--how man and God became ONE, yet two separate personalities, to wit:

"Cumbered with humanity Christ could not be in every place personally, therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them to go to His Father and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit.” E.G. White, (Manuscript Releases Volume 14 (No’s 1081-1135) MR No.1084. We know there were TWO PERSONS to the Godhead BEFORE the Son's INCARNATION. So if IN THE INCARNATION another person was produced--THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST, OR GOD COME IN THE LIKENESS OF SINFUL FLESH, THAT MAKES THREE PERSONS.

A common retort is to cite that the Spirit moved over the waters in Genesis 1. Of course it did, because the Divine Nature of Christ was His Holy Spirit which He shared with the Father as THE ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT. Both their spirits moved over the waters because they both created--the Father created through the Son. For example, they both created man in their image. End note by Ron.

As a child Christ was still the mighty God equal with the Father:

"What opposites meet and are revealed in the person of Christ! The mighty God, yet a helpless child! The Creator of all the world, yet, in a world of His creating, often hungry and weary, and without a place to lay His head! The Son of man, yet infinitely higher than the angels! Equal with the Father, yet His divinity clothed with humanity. . . .” E. G. White, "God Manifest in the Flesh," The Signs of the Times (April 26, 1905), 8.

To the Jews “He [Christ] ‘announced himself to be the self-existent one.’ E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Publishing Association, 1898), p. 469.

He "claimed equal rights with God in doing a work equally sacred, and of the same character with that which engaged the Father in Heaven." E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Publishing Association, 1898), p. 469.

Christ claimed equality with the Father and the prerogatives of Deity in the highest sense.”  E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Publishing Association, 1898), p. 469.

The mysterious unity that existed between Christ and the Father prior to the incarnation was retained during the Saviour’s life on earth. God was still one God: "From all eternity Christ was united with the Father, and when he took upon himself human nature, he was still one with God. He is the link that unites God with humanity." E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D.C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1958), p. 228. Citing The Signs of the Times, August 2, 1905.

Note by Ron: Some folk are pretending to understand all about the Godhead, when Ellen White said that we will study the issue of the Incarnation for eternity. That is an endless amount of data we are not privy to on this issue. But nevertheless, Ellen White said that what we are given we may understand. However, it is a mystery how Christ was fully divine and fully human in one person and yet His divine Holy Spirit was divested from and independent of His human personality.

"Cumbered with humanity Christ could not be in every place personally, therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them to go to His Father and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit.” E.G. White, (Manuscript Releases Volume 14 (No’s 1081-1135) MR No.1084.

Was Jesus in Heaven while on Earth? (Jesus is the speaker in John 3:12-15) This should be used with Ellen White’s cumbered statement to prove Ellen White’s statement that Christ’s Holy Spirit HIMSELF was divested from, and independent of His human personality Jesus was in heaven while on earth. SDA leaders like Erwin Roy Gane don’t deal in this fact, for it destroys the Trinity Doctrine by adding another person to the Godhead at the Incarnation--namely the human personality of Christ. Thus, if the Trinity Doctrine was correct in its teaching that there were three co-eternal persons BEFORE the Incarnation, there would need to be four persons after the Incarnation. So the Trinity Doctrine thusly obfuscates the Incarnation Sacrifice whereby another person accrued to the Godhead at the Incarnation.

While speaking to Nicodemus on earth, Jesus told him that the Son of Man was in heaven--that is, His Holy Spirit HIMSELF, was in heaven:

“If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which IS IN HEAVEN. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.” (John 3:12-15 KJV) END NOTE BY RON.

 “Christ gave up heaven for the period of His earthly ministry, He veiled His glory in humanity, He chose not to use certain aspects of His divine power and knowledge, but He was still the supreme Sovereign of the universe:

But although Christ’s divine glory was for a time veiled and eclipsed by His assuming humanity, yet He did not cease to be God when He became man. The human did not take the place of the divine, nor the divine the human. This is the mystery of godliness. The two expressions "human" and "divine" were, in Christ, closely and inseparably one, and yet they had a distinct individuality. Though Christ humbled Himself to become sin, the Godhead was still His own. His deity could not be lost while He stood faithful and true to His loyalty. Surrounded with sorrow, suffering, and moral pollution, despised and rejected by the people to whom had been entrusted the oracles of heaven Jesus could yet speak of Himself as the Son of man in heaven. E. G. White, "Christ Glorified," The Signs of the Times, XXV May 10, 1899), 2. Cited by 5 BC, 1129.

“What a subject for thought, for deep, earnest contemplation! So infinitely great that He was the Majesty of heaven, and yet He stooped so low, without losing one atom of His dignity and glory!” E. G. White, "Tempted In All Points Like As We Are," The Signs of the Times, XXIV (June 9, 1898), 2.

DID CHRIST USE HIS OWN DIVINE POWER DURING THE INCARNATION?

Ellen G. White lays it down as an unvarying rule that Christ never performed miracles on His own behalf. His divine power was not employed to alleviate His own suffering, to supply His own needs or to overcome temptation. In these respects Christ remained as a man entirely dependent upon His Father. Speaking of the temptation in the wilderness Ellen G. White wrote, "Neither here nor at any subsequent time in his earthly life did he work a miracle in his own behalf." E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 119.

In reference to His overcoming temptation she wrote, "he overcame in human nature, relying upon God for power." E. G. White, "After the Crucifixion," The Youth’s Instructor, XLIX (April 25, 1901), 130.

The question arises as to whether Christ used His own divine power in working miracles for others. Was this miracle working power His own or was it given Him by the Father as it was later conferred upon the Apostles? Ellen G. White wrote:

The world’s Redeemer was equal with God. His authority was as the authority of God. He declared that he had no existence separate from the Father. The authority by which he spoke, and wrought miracles, was expressly his own, yet he assures us that he and the Father are one.” E. G. White, "Christ Revealed the Father," Review and Herald, LXVII (January 7, 1890), 1.

On the other hand the following apparently contradictory statement appears in The Desire of Ages:

“In all that He did, Christ was co-operating with His Father. Ever He had been careful to make it evident that He did not work independently; it was by faith and prayer that He wrought His miracles.” E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 536.

Note by Ron: Because Christ and the Father are ONE in substance--SPIRIT--God is a Spirit says Scripture, the authority was His own because He is ONE WITH the Father, and what one of them desires is the same mind as the other. The authority of ONE is the authority of the other because they are ONE GOD. End note by Ron.

This latter statement appears in the chapter, "Lazarus, Come Forth." This chapter presents the raising of Lazarus as the most convincing evidence of Christ’s divinity. Throughout the chapter the impression is given that the power of Christ manifested in this remarkable way was not in any sense derived, but His own inherent power as God, the Life-giver. Mary and Martha were not alone in their time of trial when Lazarus was sick unto death. "Christ beheld the whole scene, and after the death of Lazarus the bereaved sisters were upheld by his grace." E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898),  p. 528.

The author proceeds:

“Had He restored him from illness to health, the miracle that is the most positive evidence of His divine character would not have been performed.

Had Christ been in the sickroom, Lazarus would not have died; for Satan would have had no power over him. Death could not have aimed his dart at Lazarus in the presence of the Life-giver. Therefore Christ remained away.”  E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 528.

This miracle was to be the greatest evidence to the skeptical contemporary Jew of the Deity of Christ:

This crowning miracle, the raising of Lazarus, was to set the seal of God on His work and on His claim to divinity.” E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 529.

This miracle which Christ was about to perform, in raising Lazarus from the dead, would represent the resurrection of all the righteous dead, By His word and His works He declared Himself the Author of the resurrection.”  E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 530.

But how could all this be true unless the power Christ displayed in raising Lazarus were His own power as God, equal with the Father? How do we reconcile the statement that it was by faith and prayer that Christ performed His miracles with the apparently contradictory one that "The authority by which He spoke, and wrought miracles, was expressly His own"? E. G. White, "Christ Revealed the Father," Review and Herald, LXVII (January 7, 1890), 1.

The Desire of Ages provides us with other evidence of Christ’s use of His own underived, divine, miracle working power. For instance, the chapter "Thou Canst Make Me Clean" deals with Christ’s forgiving and healing the paralytic who was let down through the roof of the house. Ellen G. White speaks of the Saviour’s previous work for this man:

“The Saviour looked upon the mournful countenance, and saw the pleading eyes fixed upon Him. He understood the case; He had drawn to Himself that perplexed and doubting spirit. While the paralytic was yet at home, the Saviour had brought conviction to his conscience. When he repented of his sins, and believed in the power of Jesus to make him whole, the life-giving mercies of the Saviour had first blessed his longing heart. Jesus had watched the first glimmer of faith grow into a belief that He was the sinner’s only helper, and had seen it grow stronger with every effort to come into His presence.

Now in words that fell like music on the sufferer’s ear, the Saviour said, "Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee." E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 268.

The power manifested here was not such that any man is able to derive from God. Under no circumstances can mere man forgive sins. The Saviour used His healing power on this occasion as evidence of His power to forgive sins. Prior to this he had exercised His divine power to bring conviction to the heart of this soul. Here we have Christ using His power as the Deity for a lost and physically ill individual. The healing power that Christ displayed was the identical power that He used in the original creation of man:

“It required nothing less than creative power to restore health to that decaying body. The same voice that spoke life to man created from the dust of the earth had spoken life to the decaying paralytic.” E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 269, 270.

On the other hand The Desire of Ages contains indications that some of Christ’s miracles were performed by faith in and dependence upon His Father rather than by the exercise of His own authority as Deity. For instance when He stilled the storm on Galilee He is said not to have done so by exercise of His own power:

“When Jesus was awakened to meet the storm, He was in perfect peace. There was no trace of fear in word or look, for no fear was in His heart. But He rested not in the possession of almighty power. It was not as the "master of earth and sea and sky" that He reposed in quiet. That power He had laid down and He says, "I can of mine own self do nothing." John 5:30. He trusted in the Father’s might. It was in faith—faith in God's love and care—that Jesus rested, and the power of that word which stilled the storm was the power of God.” E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 336.

In one instance we have Christ using His underived, creative power to heal a dying paralytic. In another instance the power of the Father, available to Christ because of His faith, was the source of the miracle. Whatever conclusion is drawn must take two factors into account. First, all Christ’s miracles were performed by "faith and prayer." The statement in The Desire of Ages declaring this is a general one.” E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 536.

It comes within a chapter which narrates the raising of Lazarus, a miracle which above all others was evidence of Christ’s power as Deity. Then even this miracle was in some sense performed by "faith and prayer." Second, some of Christ’s miracles resulted from the exercise of His own power as God. Others resulted from the exercise of the Father’s power in response to Christ’s faith.

The present writer concludes that Christ’s use of His divine was always within the context of faith in the Father. In some instances the power He used was His own, but He had accepted the limitations of man and thus imposed upon Himself limitations in regard to the direction of its use. As man He was a dependent human being. On occasions He exercised His own creative power, that which was His as God, which was "unborrowed and underived," and which in the beginning He had used in the creation of the world. The direction as to the use of this power came from the Father because Christ had accepted the limitations of humanity. Perhaps the fact that the stilling of the sea was the Father’s act in response to Christ’s faith, rather than an instance of exercise of Christ’s own authority as Deity, is to be explained by the fact that the miracle was to some extent for His own benefit and, as previously pointed out, never did He perform a miracle for His own benefit.

At all events the evidence is overwhelmingly opposed to the view of the Adventist Arian that the divine in Christ during the incarnation was an inferior divinity entirely subordinate to that of the Father.

WHAT HAPPENED TO CHRIST’S DEITY WHEN HE DIED?

This question was a crucial one for the Adventist Arian. He rejected Trinitarianism because it taught that the divine in Christ did not die, but that it ascended to the Father when the human Christ expired on the Cross. The Arian saw this as an inadequate human sacrifice. He believed the Deity did die. This was possible because the divine in Christ was an inferior delegated divinity. It would have been impossible, so the Arian declared, for the supreme Father to have died in this way.

Ellen G. White emphasized on a number of occasions that the Deity did not die:

“Humanity died; divinity did not die.” E. G. White, Selected Messages, Book One (Washington, D.C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, l958), p. 301. Citing The Youth’s Instructor, August 4, 1898.

Note by Ron: The Testator was Divine ONLY when the Testament was made.

 "The darkness rolled away from the Saviour and from the Cross. Christ bowed His head and died. In His Incarnation He had reached the prescribed limit as a sacrifice, but not as a redeemer." E.G. White Manuscript Releases Volume Twelve, p. 409.

 

In Christ’s INCARNATION ALONE He had reached the prescribed limit as a sacrifice WITHOUT THE CROSS. How so? Because the prescribed limit as a sacrifice was DEATH OF THE TESTATOR, THE DIVINE HOLY SPIRIT PERSON OF THE SON OF GOD. Divinity could not die, so what the Son “died to” in fulfillment of the prescribed limit of a sacrifice--DEATH OF THE TESTATOR, was to die to His former estate of being DIVINE ONLY, and becoming combined with humanity FOREVER. The cross sacrifice did not result in FOREVER DEATH. The wages of our sin is ETERNAL DEATH. That is why something about the Testator’s death must be eternal for while He liveth, the Testament is of no force:

 

Hbr 9:16 For where a testament [is], there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

Hbr 9:17 For a testament [is] of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

"The Incarnation of Christ was an act of self-sacrifice; His life was one of continual self-denial. The highest glory of the love of God to man was manifested in the sacrifice of His only-begotten Son, who was the express image of His person. This is the great mystery of godliness. It is the privilege and the duty of every professed follower of Christ to have the mind of Christ. Without self-denial and cross bearing we cannot be His disciples." E.G. White, Selected Messages, Book 2, p. 185. End note by Ron.

The Deity did not sink under the agonizing torture of Calvary, yet it is nonetheless true that "God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." E. G. White, Manuscript 140, 1903. Cited by 5 BC, 1129.

Note by Ron: The only life that could atone for sin was the Divine life of the Testator. The life that is proffered to us is the Divine Nature eternal life of the Son, not the humanity of Christ.

 

"He (Christ) suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which WAS His." Desire of Ages, p. 25 1 Cor. 11:24-265, cf. John 6:53, 54, Titus 3:5, 6. End note by Ron.

When Christ was crucified, it was His human nature that died. Deity did not sink and die; that would have been impossible.” E. G. White, Letter 280, 1904. Cited by 5 BC, 1113.

“Deity did not die. Humanity died, but Christ now proclaims over the rent sepulcher of Joseph, "I am the resurrection, and the life." E. G. White, Manuscript 131, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1113.

It is true that there are certain statements in the writings of Ellen G. White which may appear to teach otherwise. For instance, "nature sympathized with the suffering of its author. The heaving earth, the rent rocks, proclaimed that it was the Son of God who died." E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. II (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1869), p. 211. Some would interpret this to mean that the divine in Christ died. Since it was the Deity who was the Author of nature, it was the Deity who was suffering and dying. The following page of the same work refers to the "sacrifice which was made by the Majesty of Heaven in dying in man’s stead." E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. II (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1869), p. 212.

Note by Ron:  The Majesty of Heaven that died occurred when the Son died to His former pre-Incarnated state of being DIVINE ONLY, to become combined with humanity forever after His Incarnation, to wit:

 "By His life and His death, Christ has achieved even more than recovery from the ruin wrought through sin. It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. 'God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son.' [John 3:16]. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only Begotten Son to become one of the human family forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. 'Unto us a child is born unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon His shoulder.' God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the 'Son of man' who shares the throne of the universe. It is the 'Son of man' whose name shall be called, 'Wonderful, Counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the prince of Peace.' [Isa. 9:6]. The I Am is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both. He who is 'holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners,' is not ashamed to call us brethren. [Heb. 7:26 2:11.] In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite love." The Desire of Ages, 25.

 

Christ a man Forever (Bible on)

 

22By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. Hebrews 7:22-28.

 

THIS WAS THE FOREVER SACRIFICE OF THE SON OF GOD, THE TESTATOR--the act of “dying” to His former state of being DIVINE ONLY, to forever being combined with humanity. The Incarnation was DEATH to the Son of God being DIVINE ONLY, and when He offered up His Divine soul to the Father just before He died on the cross, that was the second and final death to His former state of being DIVINE ONLY. He could never thereafter return to that state.

 

Earlier in the same work Ellen G. White wrote, "the divine Son of God was fainting, dying." E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. II (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1869), p. 206.

One suggested reconciliation of the apparent contradiction between these two sets of passages would be that Christ did not die in the normal sense of the term. His life was not taken from Him, for He possessed a divine self. He gave up His life voluntarily. E. G. White, Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 484. Therefore He was really and absolutely dead in His human and divine natures, but the act of giving up His own life is to be regarded as something distinct from death. Therefore, some would suggest, it is still true to say that the Deity did not die."

The present writer objects to this position on the grounds that the Deity is immortal and therefore cannot die in any sense. It is impossible for an immortal being to give up life. Immortality is deathlessness. To argue that the Deity did not die, but was in fact dead, is to involve oneself in unnecessary manipulation of language. If as Ellen G. White says, it was impossible for Deity to die then undoubtedly she meant just that.

Christ during the incarnation was a God-man. He is referred to many times in the writings of Ellen G. White as the divine Son of God, and as the Majesty of Heaven. These terms are used to refer to the God-man. The human element of Christ’s nature was not divine and had never existed in heaven. But since Christ was God in human flesh, terms which technically refer only to His divine nature are used to refer to the total Being including His human nature. "Majesty of Heaven" technically refers to the divine, but Ellen G. White uses it to refer to the totality of His existence including the human. It would not therefore be incorrect for Ellen G. White to use the terms "divine Son of God" and "majesty of heaven" in the untechnical sense when speaking of the death of Christ. The very name "Christ," when used to refer to His earthly existence, involves both the human and the divine. She speaks of Christ being hungry, thirsty and weary.” E. G. White, Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1898), p. 118.

Note by Ron: This is how and why the Incarnation produced another person to the Godhead--the human person of Christ’s nature had never existed in heaven before. The Trinity Doctrine totally denies the Incarnation process whereby another person (human person of Christ) was added to the Godhead--and this human person was not ETERNAL. This is why the Trinity Doctrine is blasphemy. It bypasses the Incarnation by saying that the Godhead consists ONLY of three co-ETERNAL persons. Tell me friend, WHERE IS THE INCARNATION PRODUCED HUMANITY PERSON OF THE GODHEAD TO BE FOUND IN THREE CO-ETERNAL PERSONS? This is why and how the Trinity Doctrine sweeps away the entire Heavenly Incarnation Sanctuary/Atonement Sacrifice, AND THEREBY THE ENTIRE CHRISTIAN ECONOMY, while the dumb-dog ministering brethren (Isaiah 56:10-12 and 5T 211) have looked on and did not see how Kellogg’s pantheism did the same thing in the Alpha, THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE OMEGA HERESY (The Trinity Doctrine).

Sanctuary Gone Atonement Gone -- "In a representation which passed before me, I saw a certain work being done by medical missionary workers. Our ministering brethren were looking on, watching what was being done, but they did not seem to understand. The foundation of our faith, which was established by so much prayer, such earnest searching of the Scriptures, was being taken down, pillar by pillar. Our faith was to have nothing to rest upon--the sanctuary was gone, the atonement was gone." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 152.

 

How did Kellogg’s pantheism do away with the Sanctuary and the Atonement? It taught that the Holy Spirit was in every living thing from Creation. If that were true, then why would we need the Incarnation sacrifice in order to receive the Holy Spirit soul of the life of Christ as a gift of the Incarnation, for we would already have the Holy Spirit in us from creation as would all living things!

 

The Trinity Doctrine results in the same end by saying that there are THREE CO-ETERNAL PERSONS to the Godhead, without factoring in the humanity person of Christ, WHICH IS A SEPARATE PERSON divested from His Divine HOLY SPIRIT HIMSELF and independent thereof. Both the Alpha heresy of pantheism and the Omega heresy of the Trinity Doctrine, render the heavenly Incarnation Sanctuary Atonement GONE. The Trinity Doctrine does this by teaching THREE ETERNAL PERSONS, which totally omits the Incarnation sacrifice that resulted in another PERSON, the NON-ETERNAL humanity of Christ, which the Father adopted into the Godhead.

 

"Cumbered with humanity Christ could not be in every place personally, therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them to go to His Father and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit.” E.G. White, (Manuscript Releases Volume 14 (No’s 1081-1135) MR No.1084.

 

"Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin.

In the gift of the Spirit, Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could bestow....

The Spirit was given as a regenerating agency, and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....

It is by the Spirit that the heart is made pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given his Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress his own character upon the church." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42.

 

Christ Made His Testator’s Soul, His Holy Spirit an Offering for Sin

“Christ had stooped to take upon Himself man's nature; He was to bear an infinite weight of woe as He should make His soul an offering for sin; yet angels desired that even in His humiliation the Son of the Highest might appear before men with a dignity and glory befitting His character. Would the great men of earth assemble at Israel's capital to greet His coming? Would legions of angels present Him to the expectant company?” The Great Controversy, pp. 313, 314.

How was His Testator’s Soul made an offering for sin? He died to that DIVINE ONLY SOUL OF HIS LIFE to become combined with humanity FOREVER. He is a man priest forever:

Hbr 7:24 But this [man], because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

The Humanity of Christ Adopted by the Father Into the Heavenly Godhead

 "By His life and His death, Christ has achieved even more than recovery from the ruin wrought through sin. It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. 'God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son.' [John 3:16]. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only Begotten Son to become one of the human family forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. 'Unto us a child is born unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon His shoulder.' God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the 'Son of man' who shares the throne of the universe. It is the 'Son of man' whose name shall be called, 'Wonderful, Counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the prince of Peace.' [Isa. 9:6]. The I Am is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both. He who is 'holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners,' is not ashamed to call us brethren. [Heb. 7:26 2:11.] In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite love." The Desire of Ages, 25.

End note by Ron.

In these instances obviously the emphasis is on the human aspect of his nature, the term "Christ" being used in the sense of the total Being. Just so, when she speaks of the death of the "majesty of heaven" it would appear she is using the term in an untechnical, accommodated sense. Since elsewhere she categorically denies the possibility of the Deity dying it seems reasonable to conclude that when she speaks of the death of the "divine Son of God" she is using the general term which, in this particular context, has special reference to the death of the human in Christ.

Ellen G. White explains at least in part what happened to the Deity element of Christ’s nature when He died on Calvary:

“When He closed His eyes in death upon the Cross, the soul of Christ did not go at once to heaven, as many believe, or how could His words be true—"I am not yet ascended to my Father"? The Spirit of Jesus slept in the tomb with His body, and did not wing its way to heaven, there to maintain a separate existence, and to look down upon the mourning disciples embalming the body from which it had taken flight. All that comprised the life and intelligence of Jesus remained with His body in the sepulcher; and when He came forth it was as a whole being; He did not have to summon His spirit from heaven.” E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. III (Battle Creek, Mich.: Steam Press of the Seventh-day Adventist Publishing Association, 1878) pp. 203, 204.

Note by Ron: Ellen White said it was impossible for the DIVINE SPIRIT to die. Just before Christ bowed His head on the cross, He commended His Spirit into the hands of the Father. So it must have been His human spirit that slept in the tomb. It cannot be assumed from the above statement that Ellen White is referring to Christ’s Holy Spirit. Jesus later told His disciples that He would have to go to heaven to send them His Holy Spirit because it was that Spirit that came down to Him at His baptism and it was that Divine Holy Spirit soul of His life that He commended to the Father just before He bowed His head and died on the cross. He said the Father would send it. So Ellen White cannot be referring to His Holy Spirit, but rather His human spirit as “sleeping” in the tomb with His human body. When we die, our spirit returns to God, but the human spirit of Christ, says Ellen White, slept in the tomb. (See SDA teaching on the State of the Dead): http://crossbearer-brian.tripod.com/id170.htm)

The body returns to dust and the spirit returns to God. The Bible does not say the soul returns to God, but the Spirit.

Eccles. 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Certainly, it was “God” who raised His body (Rom. 10:9, 1 Pet. 1:21), and Jesus is God. But Scripture also teaches that the Father raised Him (Gal. 1:1; Eph. 1:17, 20). Even the Holy Spirit is said to have raised Him (Romans 8:11). So, the act of raising Jesus from the dead was not the operation merely of one person within the Godhead, but was a cooperative act done by the power of the divine substance. The fact that the Bible teaches that God raised Jesus from the dead, and that Jesus raised Himself is yet another testament to Christ’s divinity. This is another MYSTERY element of the Incarnation and the death of Christ’s humanity. Erwin Gane makes this same conclusion below. However, just as the Holy Ghost of Christ sired Christ in the womb of Mary, it could have also raised Him from the dead. It is my personal belief that because the Holy Ghost of Christ and the ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT of the Father are indeed ONE, they both raised Christ from the dead, and thus fulfilled Christ’s saying that He would raise Himself in three days.

End note by Ron.

The precise condition of the Deity aspect of Christ’s nature during the brief period of His incarnation in the tomb is undoubtedly one of the deepest mysteries of the Gospel. The Arians were right in denying that the divine Christ ascended to heaven when the human expired on the Cross, but they were wrong, according to Ellen G. White, in postulating the death of Deity.

Note by Ron: The Arians may not have been right in denying that the divine nature Holy Spirit of Christ ascended to heaven when the human expired on the Cross. We should not be dogmatic on aspects of the Godhead that are deep mysteries that we will study for eternity. End note by Ron.

As further evidence, the circumstances of the resurrection may be cited. Ellen G. White speaks of Christ as a prisoner in the tomb. Only the Father could release Him:

“He who died for the sins of the world was to remain in the tomb the allotted time. He was in that stony prison house as a prisoner of divine justice. He was responsible to the judge of the universe. He was bearing the sins of the world, and His Father only could release Him.” E. G. White, Manuscript 94, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1114.

 

Note by Ron: Only the Father could release Him, but the release and the raising from the tomb could have been two different things. This is another mystery we should set on the shelf until God decides to divulge its meaning to us. End note by Ron.

It was the angel who called Christ in the name of the Father to rise from the tomb.” E. G. White, Manuscript 115, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1110.

 “It was the "spirit which raised Jesus from the dead." E. G. White, "Beware of Imitations," The Youth’s Instructor, XLIII (February 7, 1895), 44.

But nonetheless Jesus came forth "to Life that was in Himself:"

When the voice of the angel was heard saying, "Thy Father calls Thee," He who had said, "I lay down My life, that I might take it again," "Destroy this Temple and in three days I will raise it up," came forth from the grave to life that was in Himself. Deity did not die. Humanity died, but Christ now proclaims over the rent sepulcher of Joseph, "I am the Resurrection, and the Life." In His divinity Christ possessed the power to break the bonds of death.” E. G. White, Manuscript 131, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1113.

Note by Ron: There is nothing to prevent the words: “came forth from the grave to life that was in Himself,” from meaning life that was in His divine self in heaven. Ellen White’s cumbered statement clearly defines two persons, two personalities associated with the Son of God. End note by Ron.

The passage clearly implies that Christ’s coming forth "to life that was in himself" was in view of the fact that "Deity did not die."

How then is answered the objection of the Adventist Arian that the sacrifice was a purely human one and therefore no atonement for human sin? Any answer can only be tentative and partial for here we are delving into the deep mysteries of the atonement. Ellen G. White wrote of the intense suffering of Christ in view of the separation from His Father, resulting from human sin being laid upon Him. Twice before Calvary He almost died as a result of the imputation of human guilt and the consequent separation from His Father. These two occasions were in the wilderness of temptation and in Gethsemane. E. G. White, The Desire of Ages (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Publishing Association, 1898), pp. 131, 693.

Note by Ron: The Lord has shown me that the humanity of Christ could not atone for sin of and by itself. It was the Incarnation sacrifice of Christ’s forever death to being DIVINE ONLY, that atoned for man’s sin. That sacrifice resulted in another person to the Godhead--the humanity of Christ. The Trinity Doctrine is blasphemous because it does not account for this added person at the time of the Incarnation. All it accounts for is THREE CO-ETERNAL PERSONS BEFORE THE INCARNATION. All the kings dumb-dog watchmen (Isa. 56:10-12, 5T 211) from the early church Fathers on down, have not been able to see and understand this fact, which is really quite empirical when you think about it. In the case of the Adventist Alpha heresy, dim witted leaders didn’t have the spiritual discernment to see how Kellogg’s pantheism did away with the need for the Sanctuary and the Atonement. Thus, the Trinity Doctrine and Kellogg’s pantheism sweep away the entire Christian economy in one fell swoop, and all the kings men are non-the-wiser! End note by Ron.

 Finally this separation broke the heart of the Son of God:

“The sins of the world were upon him, also the sense of his Father’s wrath as he suffers the penalty of the law transgressed. It was these that crushed his divine soul. It was the hiding of his Father’s Face—a sense that his own dear Father had forsaken him—which brought despair.” E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. II (Mountain View Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1869), p. 214.

The separation of Christ from the Father involved the separation of absolute God from absolute God. It involved the temporary severing of the mysterious unity that is God. Of the Gethsemane experience Ellen G. White wrote, "as Christ felt His unity with the Father broken up, He feared that in His human nature He would be unable to endure the coming conflict with the powers of darkness." E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. II (Mountain View Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1869), p. 686.

Finally the severing of this divine unity broke the heart of the Son of God:

“But now with the terrible weight of guilt He bears, He cannot see the Father’s reconciling face. The withdrawal of the divine countenance from the Saviour in this hour of supreme anguish pierced His heart with a sorrow that can never be fully understood by man. . . .

It was the sense of sin, bringing the Father’s wrath upon Him as man’s substitute, that made the cup He drank so bitter, and broke the heart of the Son of God.” E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. II (Mountain View Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1869), p. 753.

“The severing of the mysterious divine relationship between Father and the Son involved suffering far greater than death, suffering which all heaven knows to have been an abundant provision for the guilt of a lost race.” Revelation 5:11, 12.

What mere man has the temerity to demand the death of the immortal Deity to the infinite price paid for human redemption?

Note by Ron: It is not “mere man” that made the Testator’s Testament--the Everlasting Covenant. It is that Testament that demands the death of the Testator--immortal Deity, to “die to something” FOREVER. The only thing the Son died to FOREVER was being DIVINE ONLY. He ceased His theretofore eternal existence AS DIVINE ONLY HOLY SPIRIT, to become forever human as well. By this fact, the Incarnation ALONE, WITHOUT THE CROSS, met the prescribed limit as a sacrifice:

"The darkness rolled away from the Saviour and from the Cross. Christ bowed His head and died. In His Incarnation He had reached the prescribed limit as a sacrifice, but not as a redeemer." E.G. White Manuscript Releases Volume Twelve, p. 409.

In His Incarnation, the act (ALONE) of His coming in human flesh, without His human death on the cross, He reached the prescribed limit as a sacrifice, which is DEATH OF THE TESTATOR--a permanent death to something. He permanently died to being DIVINE ONLY.

Why can’t God’s watchmen (Isaiah 56:10-12 see this? There are at least three reasons:

1.    Because of unbelief (5T 211) they lack spiritual discernment to see it. This is why they could not see the serious implications of Kellogg’s pantheism; that it totally destroyed the need for the Sanctuary Atonement by which the Holy Spirit gift was made possible to indwell us--was indeed given to us as Heaven’s “highest good, crowning gift.” It destroyed the need for the Incarnation Sanctuary/Atonement sacrifice by teaching that at creation the Holy Spirit of God was invested into every living thing--pantheism, thus, if we already had the spirit of God from our creation, we wouldn’t need the Incarnation sacrifice that made that GIFT OF ALL GIFTS POSSIBLE!

2.    Because of the same unbelief (5T 211) SDA leaders cannot understand (Isaiah 56:10-12). They cannot see the implications of the Trinity Doctrine which destroys the Incarnation Sanctuary Atonement. How does the Trinity Doctrine destroy the Sanctuary Atonement? By teaching that there are three CO-ETERNAL PERSONS TO THE GODHEAD, when in truth it was the Incarnation that produced THE THIRD PERSON--God come in the likeness of human sinful flesh. That person NEVER EXISTED BEFORE THE INCARNAITON. That human person was adopted by God into the Godhead of heaven and sits on the throne with God, as God. If there were THREE CO-ETERNAL PERSONS before the Incarnation, then there would needs be FOUR after the Incarnation--the fourth being the humanity of Christ or God come in the likeness of human sinful flesh. And that is not the case. There are only THREE PERSONS.

3.    The third reason why men from the early church Fathers on down to today, cannot see the simple empirical facts stated above, is because as in science there is a lot of pride and rivalry amongst ecclesiastical leaders. If they as INDIVIDUALS don’t discover a truth, they won’t accept it! It’s just that simple! They regard themselves with such pride and self-esteem, that they think if a new teaching was true, THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN IT WITHOUT HAVING TO BE TAUGHT IT!

For example, many Adventists have arrogantly told me personally that if God has anything for them, He will show it to them personally! They’re not going to take anything from anyone else! Do you see a direct collision factor with that kind of thinking relative to the God specified gifts to the church? Such persons are mocking and/or downright rejecting God’s methodology in giving certain gifts to certain individuals in the church. God has shown me in vision that He has worked on His plan of giving specific gifts to certain individuals for the express purpose of exposing pride in those who reject persons He has given gifts to. Pride is so serious that it paves the way to destruction. End note by Ron.

CHRIST EQUAL WITH THE FATHER AFTER THE INCARNATION

The writings of Ellen G. White contain no suggestion that since the incarnation Christ has been delegated a subordinate position in the courts of heaven. There is no intimation that as God He resigned forever any of the prerogatives of God when He died for the sins of man. On the contrary, in unmistakable language it is stated that Christ was restored to His former position in heaven. Referring to Christ’s prayer recorded in John 17:1-5 Ellen G. White wrote:

“He is praying to His Father in regard to a glory possessed in His oneness with God. His prayer is that of a mediator; the favor He entreats is the manifestation of that divine glory which was possessed by Him when He was one with God. Let the veil be removed, He says, and let My glory shine forth—the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.” E. G. White, "Christ Glorified," The Signs of the Times, XXV (May 10, 1899), 2. Cited by 5 BC, 1146.

Note by Ron: Below is the meaning of the word glory G1391 as used to describe the glory of God in 1CO 11:7, using Strong’s Concordance.

1Co 11:7

For G1063 a man G435 indeed G3303 ought G3784 not G3756 to cover G2619 his head, G2776 forasmuch as he is G5225 the image G1504 and G2532 glory G1391 of God: G2316 but G1161 the woman G1135 is G2076 the glory G1391 of the man. G435

1.     opinion, judgment, view

2.     opinion, estimate, whether good or bad concerning someone

1.     in the NT always a good opinion concerning one, resulting in praise, honour, and glory

3.     splendour, brightness

4.     of the moon, sun, stars

5.     magnificence, excellence, preeminence, dignity, grace

6.     majesty

1.     a thing belonging to God

1.     the kingly majesty which belongs to him as supreme ruler, majesty in the sense of the absolute perfection of the deity

2.     a thing belonging to Christ

1.     the kingly majesty of the Messiah

2.     the absolutely perfect inward or personal excellency of Christ; the majesty

3.     of the angels

1.     as apparent in their exterior brightness

7.     a most glorious condition, most exalted state

8.     of that condition with God the Father in heaven to which Christ was raised after he had achieved his work on earth

9.     the glorious condition of blessedness into which

This prayer for the complete restoration of His former status in heaven was answered:

“Thus the prayer of Christ was answered. He was glorified with the glory which He had with His Father before the world was. . . .

No words can describe the scene which took place as the Son of God was publicly reinstated in the place of honor and glory which He voluntarily left when He became a man.

Note by Ron: We must be ever cognizant of the eternal sacrifice of the Son of Man--that of sacrificing the soul of His Life, His Holy Spirit soul in that He would not exist as that SOUL (ONLY) ever again. Christ’s humanity cumbers His Divine Nature Holy Spirit. What does that mean? It means that Christ’s humanity does not in and of itself possess the attributes of His Holy Spirit such as the OMNI’S--omnipresence, omnipotence and omniscience. Some might think that at times when it “appeared” that Christ had possession of the omnipresent attribute, such as when He saw Nathaniel under the tree praying, that He possessed the gift of omnipresence. But His Holy Spirit in heaven showed Him such things, because Ellen White says that His humanity cumbered the OMNI’S.

Christ’s humanity exists forever and He was not reinstated to His preIncarnation DIVINE ONLY ESTATE. His honor and glory which He voluntarily left when He became a man were reinstated.  

"Cumbered with humanity Christ could not be in every place personally, therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them to go to His Father and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit.” E.G. White, (Manuscript Releases Volume 14 (No’s 1081-1135) MR No.1084.

 

End note by Ron.

And today Christ, glorified, and yet our brother, is our Advocate in the courts of heaven.” E. G. White, "Christ Glorified," The Signs of the Times, XXV (May 10, 1899), 2. Cited by 5 BC, 1146.

There are repeated declarations in the writings of Ellen G. White to the effect that Christ’s position today is one of complete equality with the Father and of supreme authority in heaven and earth. As previously intimated Christ’s oneness with the Father was broken up because of sin, but this oneness was entirely restored. Today Christ stands in precisely the same relationship to the Father as He did before the incarnation:

“God is the Father of Christ; Christ is the Son of God. To Christ has been given an exalted position. He has been made equal with the Father. All the counsels of God are opened to his Son.” E. G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. VIII (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1904), pp. 268, 269.

Note by Ron: It is the humanity of Christ that has been adopted by the Father into an exalted position and made equal to the Father. His Divine Nature Holy Spirit has forever been ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT with the Father. End note by Ron.

“According to His promise He had sent the [HIS] Holy Spirit from heaven to His followers, as a token that He had, as priest and king, received all authority in heaven and on earth, and was the Anointed One over His people.” E. G. White, The Acts of the Apostles (Mountain View, Cal.: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1911), p. 38.

Note by Ron: Notice in John 14 that when the Comforter is sent, Jesus says of He and His Father (in context), “WE WILL COME” One cannot come without the other because THEY ARE ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT--ONE GOD.

Jhn 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

End note by Ron.

Ellen G. White effectively answered Uriah Smith’s contention that Christ is the Alpha and Omega only in a subordinate sense. She wrote, "Christ Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, the Genesis of the Old Testament, and the revelation of the new." E. G. White, Manuscript 33, 1897. Cited by 5 BC, 1092.

Note by Ron: Jesus says four times in Revelation that He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. End note by Ron.

In commenting on Revelation 1:18-20 Ellen G. White stated:

“These are wonderfully solemn and significant statements. It was the Source of all mercy and pardon, peace and grace, the self-existent, eternal, unchangeable One, who visited His exiled servant on the isle that is called Patmos.” E. G. White, Manuscript 81, 1900. Cited by 5 BC, 955.

Of course these verses in Revelation have obvious reference to Christ. He then is the "self-existent, eternal, unchangeable one." That being so, a change in His status as God is manifestly an impossibility.

Note by Ron: The Son of Man did change His status as God ONLY, to come as a God/Man in human sinful flesh. Ellen White says that He was fully divine and fully human. So that did involve a change in status as regards the FULLY HUMAN aspect of Christ. That change was essential to meeting the prescribed limit of a sacrifice in the Incarnation. End note by Ron.

CHRIST EQUAL WITH THE FATHER AFTER THE END

Some of the Adventist Arians used 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 as evidence that at the end Christ assumes a subordinate position to the Father. Unfortunately Ellen G. White makes no comment on the central problem of the passage, but nowhere does she give any hint that a change in the status of the Son will be effected at the end of time. On the other hand, she does say much about the exalted position Christ will occupy at the conclusion of the millennium:

Note by Ron:

1Co 15:24   Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

1Co 15:25   For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 

1Co 15:26   The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 

1Co 15:27   For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under [him, it is] manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

1Co 15:28   And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

 

The following verse refers to Christ, THE LAMB, as being Lord of lords and King of kings.

 

Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

 

The Lord showed me long ago that any statement of Scripture that would place Christ as subservient to the Father refers to the humanity of Christ, while Christ in His twofold PERSON of Holy Spirit and God/Man, will be Lord of lords and King of kings.

 

End note by  Ron.

“In the presence of the assembled inhabitants of earth and heaven takes place the final coronation of the Son of God. And now, invested with supreme majesty and power, the King of Kings pronounces sentence upon the rebels against His government, and executes upon those who have transgressed His law and oppressed His people.” E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy Vol. IV (Battle Creek, Mich.: Review and Herald Publishing Co., 1884), p. 480.

There can be no reasonable doubt that the King of Kings who at the conclusion of the Millennium is invested with supreme majesty and power before the assembled hosts of the saved and the unsaved is Jesus Christ the Son of God:

“As if entranced, the wicked have looked upon the coronation of the Son of God. . . . They witness the outburst of wonder, rapture and adoration from the saved; and as the wave of melody sweeps over the multitudes without the city, all with one voice exclaim, "Marvelous are Thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are Thy ways, Thou King of Saints." (Rev l5:3) and falling prostrate, they worship the Prince of Life.” E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy Vol. IV (Battle Creek, Mich.: Review and Herald Publishing Co., 1884), p. 484.

“The hour has come when Christ occupies His rightful position and is glorified above principalities and powers and every name that is named.” E. G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy Vol. IV (Battle Creek, Mich.: Review and Herald Publishing Co., 1884), p. 486.

Nowhere in the writings of Ellen G. White is there any suggestion that Christ adopts a position subordinate to the Father at any time subsequent to His coronation. As a suggested interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:28 the present writer would offer the following. The text cannot refer to the subordination of the human in Christ to the Father. According to 1 Corinthians 15:24 the change that takes place comes at "the end." The human in Christ is subordinate now just as it has always been since the birth of the Saviour. This change does not occur at the "end" or "when all things shall be subdued unto Him." Since the Son is co-equal with the Father, "in the Father," and the "express image of the Father," He is included in "God" who is "all in all." God cannot be subject to God. Therefore Christ cannot be subject to the Father, in the ordinary sense. The Son becomes "subject unto Him" in the sense that the Son ceases to carry out a distinct mediatorial work for man, and all that He bought back by the vicarious sacrifice is now entirely subordinate to God—Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The distinctive work of the Son ceases and God becomes "all in all." The Son is no longer a separate functionary within the Deity and the plan of redemption is acknowledged to have been the achievement of a unified God.

 

~rwb