Can We All Prophesy
the Outcome of the 2015 GC Session Voting on Women’s Ordination?
Isa 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule
over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the
way of thy paths.
Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and
the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour
out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
Lam 4:10 The hands of the pitiful women have sodden their own children:
they were their meat in the destruction of the daughter of my people.
Eze 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and
women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my
sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
June 23, 2015
Next month, the General Conference of
Seventh-day Adventists will hold its 60th session in San Antonio, Texas from July 2-11. http://2015.gcsession.org/ During this time, the church will vote on women’s
ordination. Based on God’s Word in Isaiah 3:12, we can safely prophesy the
outcome of that vote.
Isa 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule
over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the
way of thy paths.
God says that women rule over His people, so
if we believe God, we can know the outcome of the General Conference vote on
women’s ordination. More than likely, the GC will not vote a blanket approval
that would implicate the leadership of the GC directly. It will probably vote
to extend the issue of women’s ordination to be resolved by each individual
conference the world over. This devious tactic of the GC will make it appear
that the highest leadership is not responsible and/or guilty of apostasy in
regard to this issue.
The same deception has been practiced by the
GC in regard to the issue of ecumenical involvement of the church. A case in
point is cited by Dr. Walter Veith when he said that the German Conference
officer was solely responsible for including that conference in the German
Council of Churches, rather than holding the entire church corporately
responsible. Instead, he totally excuses the church as a body, to wit:
“If individuals sign the
Charta Oecumenica, or even whole Divisions for that matter, that does not make
the SDA church apostate, it makes those individuals apostate.”
https://omega77.tripod.com/veithbruinsmaarticle1.htm
God and Ellen White warned us that the ancient
prophets wrote more for us than the Jews for the express reason that we have
their example we are supposed to learn from.
"The Bible for Our
Time.--Never are we absent from the mind of God. God is our joy and our
salvation. Each of the ancient prophets spoke less for their own time than for
ours, so that their prophesying is in force for us. 'Now all these things
happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon
whom the ends of the world are come' (1 Cor. 10:11). 'Not unto themselves, but
unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them
that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from
heaven which things the angels desire to look into' (1 Peter 1:12).'" E.G.
White, Selected Messages, Bk. 3, p. 338.
Prophets
Wrote for Their Own and Our Day.—“The last books of the Old Testament
show us workers taken from the laborers in the field. Others were men of high
ability and extensive learning, but the Lord gave them visions and messages.
These men of the Old Testament spoke of things transpiring in their day, and
Daniel, Isaiah, and Ezekiel not only spoke of things that concerned them as
present truth, but their sights reached down to the future, and to what should
occur in these last days.”--Letter 132, 1898. {3SM 419.5, 420}
“Enoch, the seventh from Adam, was ever prophesying the coming of the
Lord. This great event had been revealed to him in vision. Abel, though dead,
is ever speaking of the blood of Christ which alone can make our offerings and
gifts perfect. The Bible has accumulated and bound up together its treasures
for this last generation. All the great events and solemn transactions of Old Testament history
have been, and are, repeating themselves in the church in these last days. There is Moses still speaking,
teaching self-renunciation by wishing himself blotted from the Book of Life for
his fellow men, that they might be saved. David is leading the intercession of
the church for the salvation of souls to the ends of the earth. The prophets
are still testifying of the sufferings of Christ and the glory that should
follow. There the whole accumulated truths are presented in force to us that we
may profit by their teachings. We are under the influence of the whole. What
manner of persons ought we to be to whom all this rich light of inheritance has
been given. Concentrating all the influence of the past with new and increased
light of the present, accrued power is given to all who will follow the light.
Their faith will increase, and be brought into exercise at the present time,
awakening an energy and an intensely increased earnestness, and through
dependence upon God for His power to replenish the world and send the light of
the Sun of Righteousness to the ends of the earth.” {7MR 417.2}
Corporate Responsibility Accrues to Every MEMBER of God’s
Church
The plainest example of
corporate responsibility taught by Scripture is that Christ is the head and we
are the body of His Church. The head of the body cannot endure sin in the body.
Thus, Christ Himself would be corporately responsible if He permitted sin in
His body, His church.
“God regards as his enemies
those who will by any act of negligence shield the guilty. They are in his
sight partakers in the evil deeds of the sinner.” {ST January 20, 1881, par.
15}
“Here are lessons which God’s
people at the present day should take to heart. There
are grievous sins indulged by individual members of the church,—covetousness,
over-reaching, deception, fraud, falsehood, and many others. If these sins are
neglected by those who have been placed in authority in the church, the
blessing of the Lord is withheld from his people, and the innocent suffer with the guilty. The officers in the church should be earnest, energetic
men, having a zeal for God, and they should take the most prompt and thorough
measures to condemn and correct these wrongs. In this work they should act, not
from selfishness, jealousy, or personal prejudice, but in all meekness and
lowliness of mind, with a sincere desire that God may be glorified. Inhumanity, false dealing, prevarication, licentiousness,
and other sins, are not to be palliated or excused; for they will speedily
demoralize the church. Sin may be called by
false names, and glossed over by plausible excuses and pretended good motives,
but this does not lessen its guilt in the sight of God. Wherever it may be
found, sin is offensive to God, and will surely meet its punishment.” {ST
January 20, 1881, par. 16}
Ted N.
C. Wilson on Corporate Responsibility
· Corporate
responsibility for praying for the Holy Spirit:
Elder Ted Wilson CORRECTLY stated in his General Conference Sabbath
Sermon – July 3, 2010, that the church is corporately responsible for praying
for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. You may hear and/or read the entire
sermon at this link. Search the text for the word CORPORATELY. http://www.steps.org.au/page/go-forward-Ted-NC-Wilson.html
· Ted Wilson’s
Statement: “It depends on whether or not we are
ready to humbly ask for revival and reformation in our lives personally and
corporately as a church which will lead to the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in
the latter rain.”
· If the church is corporately responsible for the Holy
Spirit’s outpouring of the Latter Rain upon the SDA church, then the church is
corporately responsible for the apostasy that precludes that outpouring.
· In the last typical literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9,
no “holy spirit rain” fell upon apostate Israel, Ezekiel 22:24. So it won’t
fall in the antitypical fulfillment upon the apostate SDA church militant
(wheat and tare co-ed church).
Corporate responsibility is
stressed by the Holy Spirit gift through Ellen White:
"The plain straight testimony must live in the church, or the curse
of God will rest upon His people as surely as it did upon ancient Israel
because of their sins. God holds His people, as a body [corporately],
responsible for the sins existing in individuals among them." Testimonies,
vol. 3, p. 269.
"The names of those who sin and refuse to repent should not be
retained on the church books, lest the saints be held accountable for their
evil deeds. Those who pursue a course of transgression should be visited
and labored with, and if they then refuse to repent, they should be
separated from church fellowship, in accordance with the rules laid down in the
Word of God." {11MR 208.3}
Every MEMBER of the
Church is Corporately Responsible for the GC Vote on Woman’s Ordination and the
Folly of Vatican II’s Celebration Movement
By the principles we have proven in this document, every MEMBER of the
corporate SDA church is corporately responsible for the apostasy of woman’s
ordination, the Celebration movement that evolved from Vatican II, and the
church’s MEMBERSHIP in Satan’s ecumenical movement. The youth of the churches
demanded entertainment and the leaders provided it via Rome’s Celebration
movement. So the women and children of the churches rule God’s people in
various and sundry ways! All who deny this fact are contradicting God in Isaiah
3:12. Of course this does not mean that ALL women and children are guilty of
this spiritual crime. Some agree with God’s plan for rule over His people.
Below is a video you need to see:
YouTube Video by an SDA Engineer, Kirk Weedman:
Are you Ready for Church?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTud-8pNR_Q
Other presentations by Kirk Weedman. Kirk is corporately
responsible for every apostasy of the SDA church he exposes because he still
advocates MEMBERSHIP in the apostate SDA church militant.
http://adventherald.org/SDA_Member/Presentations/presentations.html
What has been revealed to you in this document are the prime
reasons why Ezekiel 9 is literally fulfilled beginning with God’s Church, His
Sanctuary, Testimonies, Vol. 5, p.
211 and the following statements:
"Study
the 9th chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally fulfilled yet the
time is passing, and the people are asleep. They refuse to humble their souls
and to be converted. Not a great while longer will the Lord bear with the
people who have such great and important truths revealed to them, but who
refuse to bring these truths into their individual experience. The time is
short. God is calling will YOU hear? Will YOU receive His message? Will YOU be
converted before it is too late? Soon, very soon, every case will be decided
for eternity. Letter 106, 1909, pp. 2, 3, 5, 7. (To "The churches in
Oakland and Berkeley, September 26, 1909.)" E. G. White Manuscript Releases Volume
One, p. 260.
Begin
at My Sanctuary -- "Here we see that the church--the Lord's sanctuary--was
the first to feel the stroke of the wrath of God. The ancient men, those to
whom God had given great light and who had stood as guardians of the spiritual
interests of the people, had betrayed their trust. They had taken the position
that we need not look for miracles and the marked manifestation of God's power
as in former days. Times have changed. These words strengthen their unbelief,
and they say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do evil. He is too
merciful to visit His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and safety’ is the cry
from men who will never again lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's
people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs
that would not bark are the ones who feel the just vengeance of an offended
God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish together." E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211.
To the Very Letter
“The
Lord reads the heart as an open book. The men who are not connected with God
have done many things after the imagination of their own evil hearts. The Lord
declares concerning them, "They have turned unto Me their back, and not
the face, though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them; yet they
have not hearkened to receive instruction." We are amid the perils of the
last days, the
time will soon come when the prophecy of Ezekiel
9 will be fulfilled; that prophecy should be carefully studied, for it will be fulfilled to the very
letter. Study also the tenth chapter which
represents the hand of God as at work to bring perfect method and harmonious working
into all the operations of his prepared instrumentalities. The eleventh and twelfth
chapters also should receive critical, thoughtful attention. Let these prophecies be
studied on your knees before God; unless you take up the stumbling-blocks which
by your own perverse spirit you have laid in the way of many who have been
connected with you, God will turn His face utterly from you and your
associates.”{1888 1303.1}
"The
things you have described as taking place in Indiana, the Lord has shown me would
take place just before the close of probation. Every uncouth thing will be
demonstrated. There will be shouting, with drums, music, and dancing. The
senses of rational beings will become so confused that they cannot be trusted
to make right decisions. And this is called the moving of the Holy
Spirit.
The
Holy Spirit never reveals itself in such methods, in such a bedlam of noise.
This is an invention of Satan to cover up his ingenious methods for making of
none effect the pure, sincere, elevating, ennobling, sanctifying truth for this
time. Better never have the worship of God blended with music, than to use
musical instruments to do the work which last January was represented to me
would be brought into our camp meetings. The truth for this time needs nothing
of this kind in its work of converting souls. A bedlam of noise shocks the
senses and perverts that which if conducted aright might be a blessing. The
powers of satanic agencies blend with the din and noise, to have a carnival,
and this is termed the Holy Spirit's working." E. G. White, Selected
Messages, Vol. 2, 36.
"The
state of the Church represented by the foolish virgins, is also spoken of as
the Laodicean state." E. G. White, Review and Herald Articles, Vol. 2, 420,
8/19/1890.
"The
church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of God is not in her
midst." E.G. White, Notebook Leaflets, p. 99, 1898.
"To
the end of time, the presence of the Spirit is to abide with the true
church." E.G. White, Acts of the Apostles, p. 55.
“The Testimony
For The Church—The Laodicean Church—What greater deception can come upon human
minds than a confidence that they are right when they are ALL WRONG?” Testimonies, Vol. 3, pp. 253, 254.
There
is ONE MORE COMING OUT OF MODERN-DAY SPIRITUAL JERUSALEM (APOSTATE SEVENTH-DAY
ADVENTISM) as well as BABYLON:
Isa
37:31 And the remnant that is escaped
of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit
upward:
Isa
37:32 For out of Jerusalem shall go
forth a remnant, and they that escape out of mount Zion: the zeal of the LORD
of hosts shall do this.
At the end-time, all churches--symbolized by seven
women in Isaiah 4:1-4, are doing their own thing. They all are in apostasy, and
only a remnant who escapes by leaving all formally
organized churches at the end-time will form the true remnant that is saved.
PROLEPSIS PROPHETIC STATEMENT:
Here is the Spirit of Prophecy prophesied prolepsis
statement regarding the final fate of that once Noble Ship. This is a major
LYNCHPIN to my warning message. Can you explain it away? Are you a passenger on
this once NOBLE SHIP, that is about to sink to rise no more? NOTICE
WHO SEPARATES FROM WHOM:
"Jesus sends HIS PEOPLE a message of warning
to prepare them for his coming. To the prophet John was made known the closing
work in the great plan of man's redemption. He beheld an angel flying 'in the
midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that
dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and
people, saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him for the hour
of his Judgment is come and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the
sea, and the fountains of waters [Rev. 14:6, 7.].
The angel represented in
prophecy as
delivering this message, symbolizes a class of
faithful men, who, obedient to the promptings of God's Spirit and the
teachings of his word, proclaim this warning to the inhabitants of earth. This message was not to be committed to
the religious leaders of the people. They had failed to preserve their
connection with God, and had REFUSED THE LIGHT FROM HEAVEN therefore they WERE
NOT of the number described by the apostle Paul: 'But ye, brethren, are not in
darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children
of light, and the children of the day we are not of the night nor of darkness'
[1 Thess. 5:4, 5].
The watchmen upon the walls of Zion should be the first to catch
the tidings of the Saviour's advent, the first to lift their voices to proclaim
him near, the first to warn the people to prepare for his coming. But they were
at ease, dreaming of peace and safety, while the people were asleep in their
sins. Jesus saw HIS CHURCH, like the barren fig-tree, covered with
pretentious leaves, yet destitute of precious fruit. There was a boastful
observance of the forms of religion, while the spirit of true humility,
penitence and faith--which alone could render the service acceptable to
God--was lacking. Instead of the graces of the Spirit, there were manifested pride,
formalism, vainglory, selfishness, oppression. A BACKSLIDING CHURCH closed their eyes to the signs of the
times. God did nor forsake them, or suffer his faithfulness to fail but they departed from him, and SEPARATED THEMSELVES from his love. As they REFUSED TO COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS, his promises were
NOT FULFILLED to them." E.G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, Vol.
4, pp. 199-200 [The
1884 edition of The Great Controversy, 199, 200].
Note these important delineations in
the above statement:
·
Ellen
White is addressing HIS PEOPLE.
·
Ellen
White is addressing those to whom God committed the EVERLASTING GOSPEL of
Revelation 14.
·
Ellen
White is defining the angel represented in prophecy as symbolizing a class of
faithful men.
·
Ellen
White is saying emphatically that the final Loud Cry message is delivered NOT
BY THE LEADERS OF THE SDA CHURCH, but by a class of faithful men, because
the leaders had failed to preserve their connection with God and had refused
light from heaven!
·
Ellen
White is addressing "watchmen upon the walls of Zion," NOT FALLEN
BABYLON!
·
Twice
Ellen White mentions HIS CHURCH, NOT FALLEN BABYLON.
·
It is the MEMBERS of
said church that SEPARATE FROM GOD, AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO SEPARATE FROM
THEM OR BE CORPORATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR APOSTASY.
·
The above reasons
are why there is another coming out of a faithful remnant FROM APOSTATE
JERUSALEM AS WELL AS FALLEN BABYLON.
·
Isa 37:31 And the remnant that is escaped of the house
of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward:
·
Isa 37:32 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a
remnant, and they that escape out of mount Zion: the zeal of the LORD of hosts
shall do this.
Ellen White is addressing a BACKSLIDING CHURCH
whose leaders and laity alike failed and rejected light from heaven and
who refused to comply with the conditions so that God's promises are not
fulfilled to them. Consider the following commentary on the 1884 Great
Controversy that the above statement is quoted from:
“Consider for a few moments the chapter in the
first edition of Great Controversy, Volume IV, published by Pacific
Press in 1884. In Chapter XXVII, ‘The Snares of Satan,’ you find that about
four pages in the latter part of the chapter were omitted from the later
editions of Great Controversy. These four pages are to be found in
Testimonies to Ministers, pages 472 to 475. The information contained in these
four pages is very valuable to Seventh-day Adventists and was very
appropriately included in the first edition of Great Controversy, Volume IV,
which when it was published was like the other volumes considered to be A
MESSAGE ESPECIALLY TO SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, and to [all] Christian people
sympathizing with them in beliefs and aims.” W. C. White, Selected Messages,
Appendix C, pp. 452, 453.
What is this serious warning message worth to you
friend? Is it worth eternal life?
~rwb