The King of the South?
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Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 7:09 PM
Subject: King of the South
Ref; SDA Biblical Study and Research Committee Report on Daniel 11
Obviously the King of the South has not been identified because it has not existed yet. But, I believe that this is about to change with the chaos developing in northern Africa.
The papacy created Islam to be the pretended antichrist and his people. This will create the illusion that the papacy and the NWO are Christ's people fighting against Satan and the antichrist. This scenario has been fed to the "sunday churches" for a long time now, and they are primed and ready to except it.
This whole sham is designed to look as closely as possible to what the "sunday churches" think armageddon will be like. This will enable them to supply all the Bible verses they need to "prove" their case.
This could certainly fool some of the very elect, don't you think?
"Albert Pike’s letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871 in which he outlined plans for three world wars.
“The first World War; To overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia (protector of Orthodoxy) and bring about an atheistic communist state.”
“The Second World War; To originate between Great Briton and Germany. To strengthen communism as antithesis to Judo-Christian culture and bring about a Zionist State in Israel.”
“The Third World War; A middle Eastern War involving Judaism and Islam and spreading internationally.”
Mazzini, with Pike, developed a plan for three world wars. The first war was to end the Czarist regime in Russia, and the second war was to allow the Soviet Union to control Europe. The third world war was to be in the Middle East between Moslems and Jews and would result in Armageddon."
The key here is the definition that Pike and Mazzini applied to "Armageddon". Without question their definition was the same definition found in the "sunday churches".
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From: Ron Beaulieu
To: SP ; AdventistHotIssues@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: King of the South
Good observations! I think you well may be right!
The more I ponder this issue, me thinks that possibly the two opposing kings (North vs. South) could directly be relative to the seven headed, ten horned beast, with the Pope as the King of the North (Satan trying to place his kingdom in the north) and the 10 horns (of which America will be one of the 10 divisions of kingdoms) when Free Masonry and the Illuminati get done slicing up the global world districts of the new world order. The ten horns would represent the powers controlled by Satan's worshippers, the Masons etc., and they would act in unison as the King of the South. It is an important factor that the 10 horn powers hate the whore! That makes them rivals on the world scene. They have their plan for world control and the whore has hers! Rome has her own brand of socialist fascism in mind.
Indeed, they may have already been doing so (acting the role of King of the South) for centuries and per the wars you mention.
3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
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From: Paulo Alexandre
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:03 PM
Subject: [AdventistHotIssues] Re: King of the South
Dear Brother Ron,
Can it be that the king of south is formed by the coalition of muslim nations that will play the role of "push at" the popery and the king of north allied to him? We have two main branches or powers inside Islam that are the sunni and the shia with their respective nations. The nations at south of Palestine are sunnites (Egypt, Saudi Arabia) . It is in Saudi Arabia that are the main places of worship in Islam - Mecca and Medina and at Mecca sunnis and shias go worship on the Hajj. If we parallel events of Daniel 8 with Daniel 11, we can see in chapter 8 the ram with two horns (Irak and Iran or respectively, Sunnis and Shias) "pushing westward, and northward, and southward" and in chapter 11 we see the king of south "push at him". Here we see the same verb in hebrew "nagach" describing the scene.
So from this, can we see the higher horn of the ram in Daniel 8:3 being the shias in Iran that "came up last" because the shia branch came from a schism of Islam after the death of Mohammed and the lower horn being the sunnis? Can it be that they are now the powers of the king of south placed at south of Palestine because sunnis and shias worship at Mecca (in Arabia, at south)?
Dear Brother Paulo,
Zionism is the brain child of Free Masonry which is controlled at the top echelon by world Jewry. Not long ago I read how the dictator of Iran is a Free Mason. I believe he is part of the Zionism plot to form a new world order that will give the Palestinians a state. So it is the Zionists who are pushing against Israel in all reality. Also, it is Zionist Jews who hate the whore, the Pope. Rev. 17:16. Zionists Free Masons will carve the world into 10 divisions.
I prefer this scenario because of the fact that according to Daniel 8, both Iraq and Iran will be demolished and the notable horn of the USA will also be broken, and then the little horn arises.
Also, I prefer this view because Revelation 17 presents the whore and the powers that contend with her right to the end of all things. The Romans and the Jews have always been arch enemies and here we have them again as antagonists at the very end. So I believe it is much bigger than Iran and Iraq and even the USA. But I would'nt doubt that Iran and Iraq are players in the puzzle of Daniel 11 for a time. But there is no faction on earth that is not controlled by the Free Masons and the Illuminati. They are orchestrating the whole drama with Lucifer as their maestro. Hope you see where I am coming from.
The imagary of Revelation 17 vis-ŕ-vis the whore and the 10 horned beast power might well be described as anti-christ versus anti-christ.