A Most Beautiful Rapproachment Between Gary Zwicke and Ron Beaulieu
Once in awhile there is reason for good news and just cause for much rejoicing. And I have occassion for announcing that today!
Truly, only the Holy Spirit can convince and convert the soul. I have exchanged dialogue with Gary Zwicke for months now on the issue of the Church being any part of Babylon. About a week ago, Gary saw the light, and I want to praise God for that experience. Gary left no avenue unearthed by way of using all the means the SDA church applies to misrepresent Ellen White's statements on Babylon, to imply that the church could never become any part of Babylon, and that the church militant organization is the ship that is going through. But truth finally triumphed over the misappropriations and misrepresentations the church has used since Ellen White's demise.
Gary now sees that there is a number of ways by which the church can become part of Babylon, without necessarily teaching all the doctrines and traditions of Rome. Indeed, even her harlot daughters do not teach all her abominations. If Gary is as strong an advocate for the truth as he was the church's error, He will be one of God's best watchman. You did the right thing Gary. You put all the available evidence to the most stringent test. Nothing wrong with that!
I, in turn, have expressed my apologies to Gary for at times being impatient and questioning his ability to discern the truth of the matter. Now, I am thankful that Gary left no stone misused by the church, unturned. That course has provided much instruction to the rest of the church by Gary's questions becoming a forum for dialogue in order to answer all the same questions that have confused and confounded most other professing Seventh-day Adventists for decades now.
As our exchanges in dialog were public, I would like to publicly present Gary's apology to me and mine to him, in the interest of inspiring others along the same line of not being too proud to admit the truth. Here are our Internet exchanges today, July 9, 2005:
I humbly apologize for the names I called you. Your understanding of the Godhead and the SDA Church is correct.
I agree with the pre-figure, it is clear from the first chapter of the Great Controversy.
Ron Beaulieu wrote:
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Gary and Forum,
I want to thank and praise God for Gary's courage in admitting to the
God bless you and yours,
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What can I say Janine, except that Ron is right about the
I agree with Ron on the trinity.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [SDAIssues] Women's Ordination
Ron says "If the church links up with Babylon, as it has, and pays dues to it for financial assistance, as it has, then it is part of Babylon."
That makes sense! I agree.
The pastor is rarely seen or heard from, he lives in a different city and spends most of his time at the larger SDA Church he also pastors. Our little Church here seems to be an inconvenience to him.
What Gary did not know is that the General Conference is phasing out small churches. There just is not enough money in them and as Ellen White and Scripture says, the pastors teach for hire and worship mammon. That is why the pastorate is studying the mega and giga church movement to learn its secrets of church growth. The methodology used is seeped in spiritualism. Why? Because all untruth is spiritualism straigh from Satan, and he is merely grooming the masses to unite in one major church movement to embrace the Sunday Law. He is doing his pre-Sunday Law requisites. None of the Mega--giga church developers meet the test of Isaiah 8:20. So there is no true light in them--just end-time deception in preparation for the antichrist.
All the mega--giga church developers study to avoid all controversial issues like the three angel's messages. Now, SDA ministers are determining to do the same thing in order to plant and grow mega and giga churches. Say bye bye to the gospel commission as delivered to the professing Seventh-day Adventist church militant. It will now go to others--faithful and true Seventh-day Adventists around the world.
"The Lord Jesus will always have a chosen people to serve Him. When the Jewish people rejected Chist, the Prince of life. He took from them the kingdom of God and gave it unto the Gentiles. God will continue to work on this principle with every branch of His work. When a church proves unfaithful to the work of the Lord, whatever their position may be, however high and sacred their calling, the Lord can no longer work with them. Others are then chosen to bear important responsibilities. But, if these in turn do not purify their lives from every wrong action, if they do not establish pure and holy principles in all their borders, then the Lord will grievously afflict and humble them and, unless they repent, will remove them from their place and make them a reproach. God is not 'worshipped with men's hands, as tough he needed any thing' (Acts 17:25). E. G. White, The Upward Look, 131.
God wanted Laodicea to give the gospel for her own benefit, but the Holy Spirit will do the work the church has and is refusing to do. Notice:
A Firmament of Chosen Ones Who Have Never Heard the Name Seventh-day Adventist.--"Among earth's inhabitants, scattered in every land, there are those who have not bowed the knee to Baal. Like the stars of heaven, which appear only at night, these faithful ones wil shine forth when darkness covers the earth and gross darkness the people. In heathen Africa, in the Catholic lands of Europe and of South America, in China, in India, in the islands of the sea, and in all the dark corners of the earth, God has in reserve a firmament of chosen ones that will yet shine forth amidst the darkness, revealing clearly to an apostate world the transformng power of obedience to His law. Even now they are appearing in every nation, among every tongue and people; and in the hor o deepest apostasy, when Satan's supreme effort is made to cause 'all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,' to receive, under penalty of death, the sign of allegiance to a false rest day, these faithful ones, 'lbameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke,' will 'shine as lights in the world.' The darker the night, the more brilliantly will they shine." E.G. White, Evangelism, 706, 707, and Prophets and Kings, pp. 188, 189.
Remember, God said if His people do not give the message, the very stones will cry out!
So God's work will get finished without mega-giga churches who are all doing their own thing at the end-time according to Isaiah 4:1-4, and disobeying the law of God by violating His Holy Sabbath. We do not have to go to Babylon to learn how to give the true gospel. The Holy Spirit itself with cry it out with 144,000 faithful and marytrs as seed for fruit.
P.S. Just read "Hidden Heresy," by Thomas Mostert, from your local ABC. Learn how spiritualism is invading the SDA church via church growth tactics.