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The following matters deal with the issues of righteousness by faith, the Investigative Judgment, and Regeneration. For those who are not familiar with the teaching of Regeneration as it relates to the Investigative Judgment, it is the teaching that the IJ is administered by a real live regeneration of every person who has ever lived since 1844, in order that they might prove to the angels and all other created beings the justice of Christ’s final judgments of every life. As God knows all, He does not do this for Himself, but for the benefit of every intelligent creature that has ever lived on this earth and in other worlds, and the angels.

 

Regeneration and the Resurrection Principle

 

In the following statement by Ellen White, what would human reproduction have to do with the resurrection of the body if such is not relative to Regeneration? We have long understood regeneration as pertaining to the renewing of the heart spiritually, but we have not understood regeneration as it pertains to the resurrection of the body.

 

“The human agent plants the seed, and God waters it and causes His sun to shine upon it, and up springs the tiny blade. Here is the lesson God gives to us concerning the resurrection of the body, and the renewing of the heart. We are to learn of spiritual things from the development of the earthly.” {TM 242.2}

 

Much more evidence for the principle of regeneration as it relates to the resurrection of the body will be elaborated upon below. Ellen White said that truth is to be ever expanding. God made us to be intelligent creatures. He wanted our minds to be learning for eternity. For example, Ellen White says that we will be studying the mysteries of the Godhead for eternity. But most are lazy Laodiceans who are slow, if ever, to receive new concepts of truth. Ellen White said that every new truth has made it way amongst great prejudice and calumny, to wit:

 

“Every new truth has made its way against hatred and opposition; those who were blessed with its light were tempted and tried. The Lord gives a special truth for the people in an emergency. Who dare refuse to publish it? He commands His servants to present the last invitation of mercy to the world. They cannot remain silent, except at the peril of their souls. Christ’s ambassadors have nothing to do with consequences. They must perform their duty and leave results with God.” {GC 609.1}

 

My response to questions:

 

Dear Brother P

 

I reply to your questions below your post as follows:

 

Brother Ron and Sister Shirley,

 

You were eye witnesses of the preachings of the late Brother Wilfred Johnson. I'd like to ask you how many people listened his sermons and are living today?

 

I'd like to ask you too has the message of sanctuary all to do about the time of judgment and regeneration of God's people in agreement with was told by the late brother Wilfred Johnson? Why these teachings never were brought to others places like here in my country where there is a large population of Adventists if they are so important to the understanding of the righteousness by faith doctrine?

 

Ron's response:

 

I have no way of knowing how many who heard Brother Johnson's teaching are still alive today. I know that some of those who heard him were ministerial students at the Canadian SDA college and they moved away after graduation. I know that some of them carried Mr. Johnson's teachings to other areas.

·       Some might wonder why Mr. Johnson died before seeing the coming of the Lord. Some might wonder why Ellen White or any other prophet died before the coming of the Lord. Mr. Johnson felt that he had another calling other than the144,000. I believe that Ellen White will be part of the 144,000. I believe the disciples of Christ will be among the 144,000 as the bride of Christ, Desire of Ages, 179.

·       The teaching of brother Johnson were indeed brought to your country by my ministry. They were brought to you and your wife and all your family via you. They have to begin somewhere. Why not you? Mr. Johnson told his hearers to teach regeneration as though it was their own belief if they believed it. We have a duty to tell folk whether they will hear or forbear, and YOU WELL KNOW THAT MOST DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING NEW, AND TRUTH IS SUPPOSED TO BE EVER EXPANDING.

·       No matter how many people die who have heard of Regeneration, the problems it answers will still be there. We cannot look to any other person or persons. I may not be one of the 144,000. You many not be one of them, but that will not negate the truth. God the Father chooses the bride for His Son, Christ's Object Lessons, 405, 406. All we can do is strive to qualify by the empowerment of the Holy Spirit.

·       Folk should be studying and asking questions like: How are the Philadelphians made pillars (leaders) in the Temple, Revelation 3:10-12, when they were of the first generation of Christians, and Ellen White said that only the 144,000 enter the Temple on Mt. Zion. The problem to be answered is endemic to the Word of God as well as Ellen White.

·       Some have retorted that the Philadelphians of every generation could merely be resurrected at the special resurrection to be alive when Christ comes. But it can be proven that Philadelphians are the 144,000 WITHOUT BLAME

·       My Website is available to all Brazil and all the world. There is no excuse for the Laodicean response to my Website in your country or any other country of the world. The fault is with the people who are asleep in their sins and love peace and safety.

·       Mr. Johnson felt that only the 144,000 would need and benefit most from the teaching of regeneration because of the questions it answered which would engender faith in them during the greatest time of trouble through which only they survive to be translated without seeing death.

·       Mr. Johnson reminded us that the teachings of the Holy Spirit go like the "still small voice," and there will be no great colossal fanfare about them. Don't expect that in regard to the deeper things of the Spirit.

·       Mr. Johnson always taught that he was shown regeneration in application to only the 144,000, but he told us that personally he believed it applied to all persons.

·       Mr. Johnson delivered the everlasting covenant as Elijah was/is supposed to do when he comes. He did a beautiful job of speaking on the love of Christ and that covenant, as well as regeneration.

·       There have been faithful Philadelphians that have constituted the church triumphant in every age. So why should they be excluded from being the bride of Christ, just because they were not born in the last generation to be translated without seeing death. The fact is that they are “resurrected”/regenerated, born again so as to be one of the 144,000.

·       "The names of the seven churches are symbolic of the church in different periods of the Christian Era. The number indicates completeness, and is symbolic of the fact that the messages [plural] extend to the end of time, while the symbols used reveal the condition of the church [collectively and generally] at different periods in the history of the world." E.G. White, The Acts of the Apostles, 585. THUS PHILADELPHIANS HAVE LIVED IN EVERY SUCCEEDING GENERATION.

·       The church triumphant has existed in every age: "The members of the church triumphant--the church in heaven--will be permitted to draw near to the members of the church militant, to aid them in their necessity." E. G. White, The Southern Watchman, Sep. 8, 1903. THE SDA CHURCH MILITANT IS NOT THE CHURCH TRIUMPHANT!

·       Ellen White’s references to the church in Acts of the Apostles, pp. 11, 12, refer to the church triumphant if you pay careful attention to key, qualifying phrases. The quotes I refer to are as follows:

"The church is God's fortress. His city of refuge, which He holds in a revolted world. Any betrayal of the church is treachery to Him who has bought mankind with the blood of His only-begotten Son. From the beginning, faithful souls have constituted the church on earth. In every age the Lord has had His watchmen, who have borne a faithful testimony to the generation in which they lived. These sentinels gave the message of warning; and when they were called to lay off their armor, others took up the work. God brought these witnesses into covenant relation with Himself, uniting the church on earth with the church in heaven. He has sent forth His angels to minister to His church, and the gates of hell have not been able to prevail against His people. . . .

During ages of spiritual darkness the church of God has been as a city set on a hill. From age to age, through successive generations, the pure doctrines of heaven have been unfolding within its borders. Enfeebled and defective as it may appear, the church is the one object upon which God bestows in a special sense His supreme regard. It is the theater of His grace, in which He delights to reveal His power to transform hearts." Ellen G. White, Acts of the Apostles, pp. 11, 12.

 

Being enfeebled and defective DOES NOT include gross apostasy that involves antichrist doctrine, the very opposite of PURE DOCTRINES. The true church Ellen White is speaking of does not have abominations for which we are to sigh and cry.

 

The True Church

 

"God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, (or the super mega church), neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. 'Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them.' Where Christ is even among the humble few, THIS IS CHRIST'S CHURCH, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church." Upward Look, p. 315.

 

The church militant (wheat and tare co-ed church) that is brought down to hell and rejects the conditions, is not the church that the gates of hell have not been able to prevail against. The gates of hell do prevail against the SDA church militant so that we are to sigh and cry about all the abominations IN THAT CHURCH:

 

“Mark this point with care: Those who receive the pure mark of truth, wrought in them by the power of the Holy Ghost, represented by a mark by the man in linen, are those “that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done” in the church. Their love for purity and the honor and glory of God is such, and they have so clear a view of the exceeding sinfulness of sin, that they are represented as being in agony, even sighing and crying. Read the ninth chapter of Ezekiel.” {3T 267.1}

 

“Of those who boast of their light, and yet fail to walk in it, Christ says, “But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you. And thou, Capernaum [Seventh-day Adventists, who have had great light], which art exalted unto heaven [in point of privilege], shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.” At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent [in their own estimation], and hast revealed them unto babes.” {RH August 1, 1893, par. 5} All emphasis (brackets and their content) are the words of Ellen White.

 

The importance of Ellen White's statements on the Sanctuary Service in my article on righteousness by faith are self-explanatory. I should not have to elaborate on those statements: http://omega77.tripod.com/sanctuaryandrbf.htm

 

COUNTERPART: "The Lord commanded one of his ancient servants, 'Pray not thou for this people [Jer. 7:16 and 11:9-15], neither lift up cry nor prayer for them neither make intercession to me for I will not hear thee.' The prophet thus describes the sins which had called forth this fearful denunciation: 'The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means and my people love to have it so and what will ye do in the end thereof?' 'From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, every one is given to covetousness and from the prophet even unto the priest, every one dealeth falsely. They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace, when there is no peace.' The apostles declare that this state of things will find its COUNTERPART in the last days. Many have a form of godliness, but in their daily life deny the power thereof. They have ceased to be convicted of their sins or alarmed at their state. They say in their hearts, 'The church is flourishing. Peace and spiritual prosperity are within her borders.' The words of the prophet may well apply to these self-deceivers, 'They have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them." E. G. White, Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, 11-07-82.

 

The subject of Regeneration engenders faith that the 144,000 will need to go through the greatest time of Jacob's trouble. How? Why? Because it addresses at least the following problems:

 

1. Ellen White said circa 1846, that she was shown that some in a gathering she was amongst would be food for worms and some would be alive when Jesus comes. That was 170 years ago. We can do one of two things: We can mock her and accuse her of being a false prophet, or we can ask God to show us how she was right. Regeneration proves how she was right.

 

2. Ellen White said that only the 144,000 go into the Temple on Mt. Zion, and that they are translated WITHOUT SEEING DEATH. God says in Revelation 3:10-12 that the Philadelphians, circa A.D. 1 would be made pillars (Leaders) in the Temple on Mt. Zion. Philadelphia includes the bride of all generations for Ellen White says that ALL THE MESSAGES to the 7 churches apply till Christ comes. Regeneration provides the answer to this "apparent contradiction."

 

3. Since the disciples are referred to as the bride of Christ, Desire of Ages, 179, and since Philadelphian's go back to the first generation of Christians, by saying that the 144,000 don't see death, she must have meant that they don't see death after being regenerated. They go through the great time of trouble without seeing death. If this is not true, there is a great problem with the disciples being the bride, who must be the 144,000. How do we prove the bride is the 144,000?    

 

  a. “And I John saw the Holy City, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.” “Her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; and had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.” “The twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.” Revelation 21:2, 11, 12, 21, 22, Acts of the Apostales, p. 591.3

 

In Revelation 3:10-12, it is Philadelphia that gets the name NEW JERUSALEM, and only Philadelphia is made PILLARS (leaders-priests) in the Temple in Heaven. So Philadelphia, the church triumphant in all ages is the bride. Her voice awakens the ten virgins (Christ's Object Lessons, pp. 405-406. She is a strictly pure virgins and the 10 virgins are concubines if you study into the meaning of virgin in Isaiah 62:1-5, as compared to the meaning of virgin in 10 virgins. Look in any Lexicon.

 

Based on the above examples alone, we could scrap Ellen White as a false prophet. But that would make God remiss in saying that He would give the gift of prophecy to the church for edification and unity till He comes. No other church that keeps the commandments of God, claims that gift. So if Ellen White is not a true prophet, God is a false God. Take your choice and the options are not comforting!

 

Regeneration is proof that Ellen White was a true prophet and that God fulfilled His promise to give the gift of prophecy to the true church.

 

If you have further questions I would be more than obliged to respond to them.

 

Ron

 

Brother Ron,

 

I only can thank you for your efforts to bring these important issues to us. It was a hard work that you made in transcript the record tapes in a text form. May God protect you and bless you for this so great job. I accept this question of regeneration as [at] the first time I read it because this are the [is a] key to understand the time that we live, the judgment, since 1844. May God empower me as He empowers you with the same Holy Spirit that was [is] His Soul, His Eternal Life, in order to do the work that your ministry began in announcing these Good News!

 

Blessings,

 

P

 

Dear Brother Ron and Forum Family,

 

 I am very grateful to God for showing you the necessity of Regeneration during the time of the Judgment because there would be no way of our sins going beforehand unto judgment.

 

This statement below shows just how clearly God showed you the critical importance of Regeneration, because all living today would have had to confess their sins (in their past lives)  before Jesus entered the Holy of Holies in 1844.

 

On the Day of Atonement, all repented of sins had to go beforehand into the Sanctuary Holy of Holies in order to be pardoned. Without the truth of regeneration, how else could all the sins of all who had ever repented go into the Holy of Holies in Heaven in 1844? For example, if you had never lived before, how could all your repented of sins be carried into the Most Holy Place by Christ, in 1844? How could they thus go beforehand into judgment? This demonstrates to the adept discerner of truth just how indispensable the truth of regeneration is to the Sanctuary Service and the antitypical Day of Atonement since 1844. Dumb-dog watchmen (Isaiah 56:10-12) cannot discern this question with its implications, let alone the answer to this “apparent” dilemma. And all who might decry the fact of regeneration are left with this dilemma and I can assure you that they have no answer but to disclaim both the Investigative judgment and the reality of the antitypical Day of Atonement, and there are many Adventists who do just that to their own self-judgment and eternal damnation.

 

Those who reject regeneration after knowing of it would be confessing their sins, but their sins would be going NOWHERE.  They could spend an entire lifetime confessing their full range of sins but they would still go absolutely NOWHERE!  Thus rejecting regeneration is indeed UNPARDONABLE SIN.  Their sin remaineth.

 

Praise God for His wonderful truths!

 

In Him,

 

Rob

 

Ron responds: Thank you Rob for bringing up that hugely important aspect of Regeneration which Brother Johnson stressed over and over. Indeed, this is a problem associated with the Investigative Judgment that nothing answers but the teaching of Regeneration!

 

 

Thank you again for reemphasizing  the tremendous importance of the Regeneration as the only valid foundation for the doctrine of Investigative Judgment!

In Him

George

Thank you again for reemphasizing the tremendous importance of the Regeneration as the only valid foundation for the doctrine of Investigative Judgment!

 

In Him

 

George