My Vision on a Response to Gerald Johnson’s Video

·      "We cannot now step off the foundation that God has established. We cannot now enter into any new organization for this would mean apostasy from the truth.--Manuscript 1290, 1905. Selected Messages, vol. 2, 390.

·      WARNING, Both Walter Veith and Gerald Johnson are advocates of a new organization which Ellen White said we cannot enter without being in apostasy from the truth.

 

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This Monday April 15 2019, I received a vision on a balanced response to Gerald Johnson’s video which I post a link to further down. However, I would seriously advise that you read this vision BEFORE watching the video lest you be bewitched by Satan, because in this vision, I give  a balancing view regarding what GOD AND ELLEN WHITE HAVE TO SAY about the personal opinions of Walter Veith and Gerald Johnson. It would be good if Walter Veith and Geral Johnson would give a balanced view on this issue but AT THE CURRENT TIME, I fail to find it in either of those men.

On the video at the following link by Gerald Johnson, He opines that there is such great danger in following God’s instruction in Ezekiel 9:, and Ellen White’s MARK THIS POINT WITH CARE instruction, that one will neglect to put away his/her own sins. Evidently, God believes that His people can do BOTH, sigh and cry for their own sins as well as those of the apostate church, because He instructed us to sigh and cry for all the abominations in the church. But men like walter Veith and Gerald Johnson, propose to know better than God. Walter veith’s opinion is to give the three angel’s messages ONLY, and just forget about Ezekiel 9:4. That is his self-appointed prophet stance against God’s Word and Ellen White’s Mark this point with care statement. You can decide for yourselves whether you will obey God and Ellen White, and be sealed, or obey these dumb-dogs who ccontradict God and Ellen White.

I want to stress with all the sanctity of the Word of God that it is of most serious importance that in sighing and crying for all the abominations of the church, we don’t let Satan catch us up in being so absorbed with the abominations and sins of the church, that we neglect our own personal sins, and heglect the duty to put them away with the empowerment of the Holy Spirit. I fully support Gerald Johnson on that important point, but LIKE Walter Veith, Geral s an advocate of being a MEMBER of a new organization that has removed God, so I don’t know where such members would receive the aid of the Holy Spirit, in an apostate new organization that has removed God. When God is removed, we know there is only one other master, from whom we CANNOT received aid to overcome our own sins, so if we disobey the SOP and join a new organization that has removed God. Gerald Johnson does not seem to be concerned about that. Nor does Walter Veith when he instructs you to SUPER GLUE yourself to the pew of the new organization that has removed God. That leaves Satan as its leader, and neither Walter Veith or Gerald Johnson seem one whit concerned about that FACT.

My angel advised these cautions when viewing Gerald Johnson’s videol Also, Ellen White said to REPUDIATE THE NEW ORGANIZATION, but I find no evidence that Walter Veith or Gerald Johnson are concerned with REPUDIATING the new apostate organization. So BEWARE when listening to either of these men. They BOTH are MEMBERS of a new organization that is led by Satan, who is the only other master when God has been removed. I ask the following questions to both these men and you should ask them as well:

1.   How do both you men avoid the reality of Matthew 23: 15, when you are clearly advancing the cause of Satan by enlisting MEMBERS in a new apostate organization led by Satan because he is the only optional master when God has been removed, as the new organization has done?

2.   Does you chosen master Satan, help you overcome personal sin?

3.   What will your patrons do to you when your new organization instructs its members to keep Sunday sacred? I know the answer to that question. Ellen White gives the answer in the event either of you don’t know it.

4.   Why does Ezekiel 9 begin at your church, IF IT IS THE FINAL REMNANT?

5.   Why does God’s Word say that a final remnant will come out of JERUSALEM (spiritual Jerusalem Isaiah 37:31, 32?) This means the Loud Cry applies to your church as well.

6.   How do you give the three angel’s messages when your church says to break the commandments by keeping BOTH SATURDAY AND SUNDAY for a sabbath?  I would be most interested in your answer as to how this is done.

7.   Please don’t answer with Ellen White’s statement that God will work to correct everything at Headquarters. I already know how God will correct things at the headquarter of a forbidden apostate new movemet THAT REJECTS THE COUNSEL OF HIS PROPHETS LIKE ELLEN WHITE SAYING THAT ANY NEW ORGANIZATION WOULD BE APOSTASY FROM THE TRUTH. Walter Veith does not believe that ccounsel. At least his action of instructing God’s people to glue themselves to a pew at the new apostate organization suggests that he does not agree with Ellen White’s instruction. God tells me in Ezekiel 9 and Isaiah 37:31, 32. How God deals with a people who ignore the instruction of His prophets. I read all about that in Chapter 1 of The Great Controersy, regarding apostate Israel.

8.   Did God correct everything at the headquarters of apostate Israel? Ezekiel 9 tells us how He corrected things when they refused the teaching of His prophets concerning the apostasy of Israel. Are Adventists repeating that same history? Ellen White says YES! The perverted personal opinion theology of Walter Veith says NO! I CHOOSE TO TRUST GOD’S WORD.

This Monday April 15 2019, I received a vision on a balanced response to Gerald Johnson’s video at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhkFHbVCXMg

I have never heard Walter Veith nor Gerald Johnson obeying Ezekiel 9:4 I heard no concern on Gerald Johnson’s video about the new movement being in apostasy and Satan being the leader, If Geral Johnson is so concerned about folk overcomeing personal sin, why does he NOT tell us HOW DO FOLK IN his FORBIDEN NEW a[pstate ORGANIZATION get the help of the Holy Spirit to overcome their personal sins? How can we pray for the empowerment of the Holy Spirit to overcome when we are disobeying the Spirit of Prophecy in JOINING AS MEMBERS A NEW MOVEMENT THAT HAS REMOVED GOD? BUT I AM FAIR ENOUGH TO GIVE THE CREDIT WHEREIN THEY ARE RIGHT. BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS: ARE THEY WILLING TO DO THE SAME CONCERNING MY WARNING MESSAGE. GOD HAS SHOWN ME THAT WALTER VEITH IS NOT SO WILLING. The verdict is still out on Gerald Johnson.

This demonstrates how these men have moved from the ridiculous to the satanic sublime in their personal opinion theology. In this vision I proffer you God’s Word and the Spirit of Prophecy instruction, NOT MY PERSONAL OPINION. It’s about time God’s people start demanding this of Walter Veith and men like Gerald Johnson. I could care less about their theology which directly contradicts God’s Word and the SOP. But that is okay Walter, I will continue to warn God’s people about your personal opinion theology which directly contradicts God’s Word and the SOP. I WOULD ADD THE SERIOUS WARNING THAT THOSE WHO TAKE THE ADIVCE OF THOSE MEN and/or support them financially, are CORPORTELY RESPONSIBLE for their serious errors in advising God’s people to be MEMBERS of a New Organization, which Ellen White prophesied would be apostasy from the truth. Ronbegin

·      "We cannot now step off the foundation that God has established. We cannot now enter into any new organization for this would mean apostasy from the truth.--Manuscript 1290, 1905. Selected Messages, vol. 2, 390.

·      Would Walter Veith and Gerald Johnson please write to me and informe me how we can receive the empowerment of the Holy Spirit to overcome personal sin, when we ignore Ellen White’s teaching about the new organization that is lead by Satan,

 

Eze 9:4   And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. 

So far on his many videos, Walter Veith does not sigh and cry for ALL THE ABOMINATIONS as God’s Word instructs. In fact, on one video I recall that he marginalized the apostasy and mocked the sighing and crying by True Reformers by saying Israel was always in apostasy; that the reformers were only bleating sheep and he advised NOT TO LISTEN TO THEM. What a thing to say in light of what finally happened to Israel in A.D. 70, Chapter 1, The Great Controversy, and Ellen White says this is going to be LITERALLY fulfilled again; and that the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 A.D. was a PREFIGURE (TYPE) GC, p 25, of the horrors of the last great day, which BEGIN AT HIS CHUCH, HIS SANCTUARY, THE HOUSE OF JACOB, to wit:

True Reformrs don’t worry about Walter Veith’s dumb-dog counsel that contradicts God and Ellen White, let us obey God and leave Walter Veith and his devotees to the leader of the new movement that has removed God. And there is only one other leader.

My Vision on the Typology of Ezekiel 9

My Vision response to Gerald Johnson (for Sabbath April 20, 2019)

"Study the 9th chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally fulfilled yet the time is passing, and the people are asleep. They refuse to humble their souls and to be converted. Not a great while longer will the Lord bear with the people who have such great and important truths revealed to them, but who refuse to bring these truths into their individual experience. The time is short. God is calling will YOU hear? Will YOU receive His message? Will YOU be converted before it is too late? Soon, very soon, every case will be decided for eternity. Letter 106, 1909, pp. 2, 3, 5, 7. (To "The churches in Oakland and Berkeley, September 26, 1909.)" E. G. White Manuscript Releases Volume One, p. 260.

 

One very foolish virgin commented that the above statement applies only to the churches in Oakland and Berkeley. That wishful, peace and safety notion is quickly exposed as error by the following statement:

 

“The church has turned back from following Christ her Leader and is steadily retreating toward Egypt. Yet few are alarmed or astonished at their want of spiritual power. Doubt and even disbelief of the testimonies of the Spirit of God, is leavening our churches everywhere. Satan would have it thus.” Testimonies, vol. 5, 217; see also ibid., 211; ibid., vol. 1, 608–609; ibid., vol. 9, 164; Gospel Workers, 14–15.

Begin at My Sanctuary -- “The church has turned back from following Christ her Leader and is steadily retreating toward Egypt. Yet few are alarmed or astonished at their want of spiritual power. Doubt and even disbelief of the testimonies of the Spirit of God, is leavening our churches everywhere. Satan would have it thus.” Testimonies, vol. 5, 217; see also ibid., 211; ibid., vol. 1, 608–609; ibid., vol. 9, 164; Gospel Workers, 14–15.

Begin at My Sanctuary -- "Here we see that the church--the Lord's sanctuary--was the first to feel the stroke of the wrath of God. The ancient men, those to whom God had given great light and who had stood as guardians of the spiritual interests of the people, had betrayed their trust. They had taken the position that we need not look for miracles and the marked manifestation of God's power as in former days. Times have changed. These words strengthen their unbelief, and they say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do evil. He is too merciful to visit His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and safety" is the cry from men who will never again lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish together." E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211.   

 

In the first literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9, the A.D. 70 destruction of Jerusalem, which Ellen White called a PREFIGURE (GC p. 25) Jewish leaders were talling the people that they were “the temple of the lord, AND THAT THE Romans would never penetrate past the gate to the city. Walter Veith is telling SDA’s the same lie: That they are God’s commandment KEEPING PEOPLE.

 

,“The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these.”

 

 

Jer 7:4 Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these.

 

New organization SDA church Is the final COMMANDMENT-KEEPING PEOPLE of God, Why does that church AT THE LEGISLATION OF THE SUNDAY LAW instruct its MEMBERS to keep Sunday Sacred—TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST?, to wit:

·      “The Lord has a controversy with his professed people in these last days. In this controversy men in responsible positions will take a course directly opposite to that pursued by Nehemiah. They will not only ignore and despise the Sabbath themselves, but they will try to keep it from others by burying it beneath the rubbish of custom and tradition. In churches and in large gatherings in the open air, ministers, will urge upon the people the necessity of keeping the first day of the week." E.G. White, Review and Herald, Vol. 1, p. 405, col. 3.

·      All who follow Walter Veith’s advice to SUPER GLUE themselves to a pew at the new organization we were NEVER TO JOIN, will take the mark and be lost—brought down to hell. That is the ultimate result of his advice. That is the ultimate result of his ministry according to God Almighty in Matthew 23:15.

·      Satan mixes truth with serious error in order to trap his victims, as does Walter Veith. Veith is excellent on Creation, diet and a few other issues, but if his followers heed his admonition to super glue themselves to a new organization that has removed God, who will they ultimately serve?

·      Walter Veith has instructed his hearers to SUPER GLUE THEMSELVES to a pew at the new movement. That means remain at the new movement, new organization church NO MATTER WHAT IT DOES. So when its leaders instruct the MEMBERS to kppe the first day of the week, that is when the church will be brought down to hell. And Walter Veith says THEY ARE THE ONLY COMMANDMENT-KEEPING CHURCH. What a lie!

God’s Firmament of Chosen Ones:

"A Firmament of Chosen Ones.--Among earth's inhabitants, scattered in every land, there are those who have not bowed the knee to Baal. Like the stars of heaven, which appear only at night, these FAITHFUL ONES will shine forth when darkness covers the earth and gross darkness the people. In heathen Africa, in the Catholic lands of Europe and of South America, in China, in India, in the islands of the sea, and in all the dark corners of the earth, God has in reserve a firmament of CHOSEN ONES that will yet shine forth amidst the darkness, revealing clearly to an apostate world the transforming power of obedience to His law. Even now they are appearing IN EVERY NATION, AMONG EVERY TONGUE AND PEOPLE and in the hour of deepest apostasy, when Satan's supreme effort is made to cause 'all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,' to receive, under penalty of death, the sign of allegiance to a false rest day, these faithful ones, 'blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke,' will 'shine as light in the world.'" The darker the night, the more brilliantly will they shine." E.G. White, Evangelism,707, and Prophets and Kings, pp. 188, 189.

 

Compare the above statement with th NOW HIDDEN ONES in 5T 81. Walter Veith and the SDA Laodicean foolish virgins are in for a huge surprise, when the above FAITHFUL, CHOSEN ONES described above will give the Loud Midnight Cry, WHILE THE NEW ORGANIZATION will instruct its MEMBERS to keep Sunday sacred. That is demonic and because God has been removed, there is only one other leader at the omega of apostasy new organization—SATAN, the head of THE SYNAGOGYE OF SATAN, In the PREFIGURE, Jesus told the Jews they were of their father the devil and that they were the Synagogue of Satan. For Ezekiel 9 to be literally fulfilled, the very same situation must be true of new movement  SDA’s who have chosen another leader without knowing it.

·      SDA Leaders Say God is glad for us to go to church BOTH DAYS—Saturday and Sunday

Ellen White says to take a FIRM STAND THAT WE WILL NOT REVERENCE THE FIRST DAY OF THE WOOK AS THE SABBATH! How do you call folk out of Babylon and Sunday worship when you are worshipping on Sunday yourself?

 

·      “We must take a firm stand that we will not reverence the first day of the week as the Sabbath, for it is not the day that was blessed and sanctified by Jehovah, and in reverencing Sunday we should place ourselves on the side of the great deceiver.” {LDE 133.2}

 

·      The following statement was written in 1905. Then in 1955, Satan CAME IN “AMONG” and sleeping foolish virgins did not detect him!

 

"The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A NEW ORGANIZATION would be established. Books of a NEW ORDER would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the NEW MOVEMENT. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but GOD BEING REMOVED, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure. 

Who has authority to begin such a [NEW] movement? We have our Bibles, we have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth? E.G. White, Selected Messages,  Bk. 1, 204, 205.

·      "We cannot now step off the foundation that God has established. We cannot now enter into any new organization for this would mean apostasy from the truth.--Manuscript 1290, 1905. Selected Messages, vol. 2, 390.

·      A new organization was formed AMONG sda’s in 1955. The first book of a new order was SDA’s Answer Questions on Doctrines. Another was LeRoy Frooms Movement of Destiny which says Christ took the heature of Adam BEFORE the fall.

 

·      Movement of Destiny by LeRoy Froom, can be downloaded Free at the following link.

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·       http://documents.adventistarchives.org/Books/MOD1971.pdf

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·      In the above document search for these words on page 497:

·      “Christ was like Adam before the Fall”

 

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·      Ellen White said that the human nature of Christ means EVERYTHING TO US, because He came to be our example. This was the first pillar doctrine changed by the new movement.

·      Movement of Destiny is still sold in SDA ABC’s as a testament of what SDA’s believe, and this is an antichrist lie to say that Jesus took the nature of Adam BEFORE the fall. All MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH ARE CORPORATELY GUILTY OF THIS HERESY OF THE LEADERS THEY SUPPORT WITH THE SACRED TITHE.

·      "There are fearful woes for those who preach the truth, but are not sanctified by it, and also for those who consent to receive and maintain the unsanctified to minister to them in word and doctrine." Testimonies, vol. 1, p 261-62.

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The Sabbath is LIGHTLY REGARDED when some SDA churches attempt to observe BOTH SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. Is that keeping the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD WALTER VEITH?

·      the Signs of the Times in 1990 states:

·      "God is glad for us to go to church BOTH days [Saturday and Sunday]. He wants us to worship Him BOTH days." (Signs of the Times, March 1990, p. 22-23).

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·      A More Decided Effort to Exalt Sunday—“After the truth has been proclaimed as a witness to all nations, at a time when every conceivable power of evil is set in operation, when minds are confused by the many voices crying, “Lo, here is Christ,” “Lo, He is there,” “This is truth,” “I have a message from God,” “He has sent me with great light,” and there is a removing of the landmarks, and an attempt to tear down the pillars of our faith—then a more decided effort is made to exalt the false sabbath, and to cast contempt upon God Himself by supplanting the day He has blessed and sanctified.” {3SM 406.2}

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Corporate Responsibility

 

"It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to unite with those who are corrupt, and still remain pure. (II Corinthians 6:14-15 quoted). God and Christ and the heavenly host would have men know that if he unites with the corrupt he will become corrupt." E. G. White, Review and Herald, Vol. 4, p. 137. 

 

"Thorns sprung up.--The thorns made it impossible for the wheat to mature (see Luke 8:14). In the same way secular interests prevent the fruits of the Spirit (Gal. 5:22, 23) from reaching maturity. Religion is relegated to the subordinate position of being only one interest among many. For lack of cultivation it withers and eventually dies. That which the thorny-ground hearers lack is a moral transformation. To them, justification is the sum and substance of religion, and they fail to realize that the Christian life consists essentially in the process known as sanctification--the process by which evil traits and tendencies are replaced by the perfect life-pattern of Jesus Christ." Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, vol. 5, 405.

 

The wheat can mature amongst tares [insincere believers whose motives we would have to judge in order to remove them], but the wheat cannot mature amongst thorns, open, apostate sinners, because they choke out and kill the wheat. This is why true reformers have separated from open sin apostate churches in every succeeding generation, Desire of Ages, 232. On that page, note that the only reason for separation of the true reformers given is that the ecclesiastical leaders would not tolerate light--truth.

 

If wheat and thorns could dwell together until the harvest at the end of the world, then there should never have been a separation from any apostate body including the apostate Jewish church from A.D. 34, from Roman Catholicism in the Reformation, and from apostate Protestantism in 1844.

 

Corporate Responsibility of EVERY MEMBER

 

"The plain straight testimony must live in the church, or the curse of God will rest upon His people as surely as it did upon ancient Israel because of their sins. God holds His people, as a body [corporately], responsible for the sins existing in individuals among them." Testimonies, vol. 3, p. 269.

 

"The names of those who sin and refuse to repent should not be retained on the church books, lest the saints be held accountable for their evil deeds. Those who pursue a course of transgression should be visited and labored with, and if they then refuse to repent, they should be separated from church fellowship, in accordance with the rules laid down in the Word of God." {11MR 208.3}

 

This (above) is why we should not join any new organization that is in apostasy. Is MEMBERSHIP at the social club new omega of apostasy organization WORTH LOSS OF ETERNAL LIFE? Ellen White said to REPUDIATE THE NEW MOVEMENT heresy LIKE SHE MET THE alpha heresy.

 

Ronbegin "The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A NEW ORGANIZATION would be established. Books of a NEW ORDER would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the NEW MOVEMENT. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but GOD BEING REMOVED, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure. 

Who has authority to begin such a [NEW] movement? We have our Bibles, we have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth? E.G. White, Selected Messages,  Bk. 1, 204, 205.

 

Let there be WAR rather than unity with compromise:

 

"If unity could be secured only by the compromise of truth and righteousness, then let there be difference, and even war." The Great Controversy, p. 45.

 

Walter Veigh says we are turning our guns on the church militant! That is a lie. A church  militant deals in militating for the PURE TRUTH, and it cannot REMOVE GOD, for holy His presence can constitute a church

 

"God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, (or the super mega church), neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. 'Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them.' Where Christ is even among the humble fewTHIS IS CHRIST'S CHURCH, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church." Upward Look, p. 315

 

Warring against a new organization that has removed God and pillar docctrines, to teach antichrist doctrines, is NOT warring against the church militant, because the church militant teaches PURE TRUTH, and has gone in its PRESENCE. Only His PRESENCE constitutes a church! And Ellen White said the new organization removed God. So let the namby pamby cowards take note.

 

Corporate Responsibility From the Bible

 

For you who do not believe Ellen White on Corporate Responsibility, learn the truth about it from a scholar at Andrews University, at the link below.

Corporate Responsibility from the Bible Toward a Biblical View of Collective Responsibility for the Seventh-day Adventist Church in the Twenty-first Century

https://digitalcommons.andrews.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1034&context=theses

·      To discover how many of the ancient men (leaders) are dumb-dogs that will NEVER AGAIN BARK to show the House of Jacob its sins, consult Isaiah 56:10-12 where it says ALL, three times. That would include Walter Veith, if you believe God.

·      Walter Veith is good on a few subjects like creation and Vegetarianism. I bought his TOTAL ONSLAUGHT series for my home church and we watched them. But all his later videos are free on YOU TUBE, and some of them teach some pure heresy, like SUPERGLUING YOURSELF to a new organization that Ellen White prophesied was apostasy from the truth. Super gluing yourself to a church that is going to instruct its MEMBERS to keep Sunday sacred! What then Walter Veith? I’ll tell you what then! Your hearers will tear you in pieces for misleading them. You FOOLISH VIRGINS who don’t agree with me about Walter Veith, you are in for a BIG SURPRISE, and very possibly loss of eternal life if you follow his instructions to remain at a church that is going to be brought down to hell, and that according to Ellen G. White, its prophetess, along with Matthew 23:15.

·      “Of those who boast of their light and yet fail to walk in it Christ says, "But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment than for you. And thou, Capernaum [Seventh-day Adventists, who have had great light], which art exalted unto heaven [in point of privilege], shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works which have been done in thee had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day." Ellen G. White, Review and Herald Articles, Aug. 1, 1893. [THE BRACKETED COMMENTS ARE BY ELLEN WHITE.] {LDE 48.2}

·      Ellen White and the Apostles taught the same thing in the following ounterpart statement. The SDA church is the counterpart to God’s first “chosen” people:

   

COUNTERPART: "The Lord commanded one of his ancient servants, 'Pray not thou for this people [Jer. 7:16 and 11:14], neither lift up cry nor prayer for them neither make intercession to me for I will not hear thee.' The prophet thus describes the sins which had called forth this fearful denunciation: 'The prophets* (leaders) prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means and my people love to have it so and what will ye do in the end thereof?' 'From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, every one is given to covetousness and from the prophet even unto the priest, every one dealeth falsely. They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace, when there is no peace.' The apostles declare that this state of things will find its COUNTERPART in the last days. Many have a form of godliness, but in their daily life deny the power thereof. They have ceased to be convicted of their sins or alarmed at their state. They say in their hearts, 'The church is flourishing. Peace and spiritual prosperity are within her borders.' The words of the prophet may well apply to these self-deceivers, 'They have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them." E. G. White,  Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald,  11-07-82.

 

*Prophets) IN this context prophets the leaders who claim to be representatives of God. Webster’s says that in defining prophets. Anyone who claims to represent God. DO YOU CLAIM TO REPRESENT GOD? DOES WALTER VEITH CLAIM TO REPRESENT GOD?

       

The ancient men (OLDER LEADERS), those to whom God had given great light and who had stood as guardians of the spiritual interests of the people, had betrayed their trust. They had taken the position that we need not look for miracles and the marked manifestation of God's power as in former days. Times have changed. These words strengthen their unbelief, and they say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do evil. He is too merciful to visit His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and safety" is the cry from men who will never again lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish together." E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211.  

 I was shown that the personal philosophy as expressed in the video above runs ounter to the instruction of Ellen White, and that Gerald’s personal opinion is much the same as that expressed by Walter Veith.

God and Ellen White both tell us that our sealing and salvation is CONDITIONAL to sighing and crying for all the abominations omitted by the church and that the MEMBERS will be held corporately responsible for those abominable apostasies. While those like Gerald Johnson and Walter Veith would silence all who do the unpopular work of exposing the apostasy as a warning to God’s people, I was shown that God’s true people at the end time will do both—they will sigh and cry for their own sins and put them away, while also sighing and crying for the abominations committed by the church.

“The class who do not feel grieved over their own spiritual declension, nor mourn over the sins of others, will be left without the seal of God. The Lord commissions His messengers, the men with slaughtering weapons in their hands: “Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at My sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.” {5T 211.1}

It is clear that our responsibility is TWOFOLD: We must be brieved over our own sins, and those that are committed by the church as the following statement attests:

 

Ellen G. White, in a message of rebuke to those in the church who would excuse wrongdoing among the professed people of God, and who murmur against those who reprove sin, says:

"Unless they repent, and leave the work of Satan in oppressing those who have the burden of the work and in holding up the hands of sinners in Zion, they will never receive the mark of God's sealing approval. Mark this point with care: Those who receive the pure mark of truth, wrought in them by the power of the Holy Ghost, represented by a mark by the man in linen, are those 'that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the church. .

"But the general slaughter of all those who do not thus see the wide contrast between sin and righteousness, and do not feel as those do who stand in the counsel of God and receive the mark, is described in the order to the five men with slaughter weapons: Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity; slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at My sanctuary' [Ezekiel 9:56]"-3 Testimonies, p.267.

Ellen White rebuked those in the church like Walter Veith and Gerald Johnson, who virtually excuse wrongdoing among the professed people of God, by murmuring against those who reprove sin. She said that unless they REPENT AND LEAVE THE WORK OF SATAN IN OPPRESSING THOSE REPROVE SIN, they will never receive the mark of God’s sealing approval.

Ezekiel instructed us to warn God’s people, and if we won’t warn them, their blood will be on our back Ellen White warned in the following statement

 

“So far as his opportunities extend, every one who has received the light of truth is under the same solemn and fearful responsibility as was the prophet of Israel EZEKIEL to whom the word of the Lord came, saying: "Son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.  When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.  Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity, but thou has delivered thy soul. Eze 33:7-9.”  The Great Controversy,  p. 459.

 

The above warning is based on the following scriptures:

 

 Eze 33:7  So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. 

 

 Eze 33:8   When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 

 

 Eze 33:9   Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. 

 

 Eze 33:10  Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live? 

 

 Eze 33:11   Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? 

 

 Eze 33:12  Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth. 

 

 Eze 33:13   When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it. 

 

 Eze 33:14   Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right; 

 

 Eze 33:15   If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die. 

 

 Eze 33:16   None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live. 

 

 Eze 33:17 ¶ Yet the children of thy people say, The way of the Lord is not equal: but as for them, their way is not equal. 

 

 Eze 33:18   When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby. 

 

 Eze 33:19   But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby. 

 

 Eze 33:20   Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. O ye house of Israel, I will judge you every one after his ways. 

 

 Eze 33:21  And it came to pass in the twelfth year of our captivity, in the tenth month, in the fifth day of the month, that one that had escaped out of Jerusalem came unto me, saying, The city is smitten. 

 

 Eze 33:22  Now the hand of the LORD was upon me in the evening, afore he that was escaped came; and had opened my mouth, until he came to me in the morning; and my mouth was opened, and I was no more dumb. 

 

 Eze 33:23  Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 

 

 Eze 33:24   Son of man, they that inhabit those wastes of the land of Israel speak, saying, Abraham was one, and he inherited the land: but we are many; the land is given us for inheritance. 

 

 Eze 33:25  Wherefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Ye eat with the blood, and lift up your eyes toward your idols, and shed blood: and shall ye possess the land? 

 

 Eze 33:26   Ye stand upon your sword, ye work abomination, and ye defile every one his neighbour's wife: and shall ye possess the land? 

 

 Eze 33:27  Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence.  

 

 Eze 33:28   For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall pass through. 

 

 Eze 33:29   Then shall they know that I am the LORD, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed. 

 

 Eze 33:30  Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the LORD. 

 

 Eze 33:31   And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness. 

 

 Eze 33:32   And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not. 

 

 Eze 33:33   And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them. 

 

It should be clear to all that we are to warn whether they will hear or forbear, and if we shrink from that duty, the blood of those we don’t warn will be upon our backs. Walter Veith and Gerald Johnson are NOT exempt from this instruction. NOONE IS EXEMPT.

 

We had better follow God’s instruction and not the example of Walter Veith and Gerald Johnson.

 

Many SDA’s think that all the bad will be shaken out of the church. If that is true, they should be able to answer the following questions:

·      Why would Ezekiel 9 BEGIN at a church that had shaken out all its bad?

·      Why would Ezekiel 9 BEGIN at God’s commandment-KEEPING church? Could it be that the church is NO LONGER keeping the ccommandments?

·      Ellen White says that the apostasy will wax stronger until Jesus comes. Why would that be if the hurch is purged and purified?

·       "One thing it is certain is soon to be realized, the great apostasy, which is developing and increasing and waxing stronger, and will continue to do so until the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout. We are to hold fast the first principles of our denominated faith, and go forward from strength to increased faith. Ever we are to keep the faith that has been substantiated by the Holy Spirit of God from the earlier events of our experience until the present time. We need now larger breadth, and Wax stronger deeper, more earnest, unwavering faith in the leadings of the Holy Spirit. If we needed the manifest proof of the Holy Spirit's power to confirm truth in the beginning, after the passing of the time, we need to-day all the evidence in the confirmation of the truth, when souls are departing from the faith and giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. There must not be any languishing of soul now." (E.G. White, Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7, p. 57).

 

·      "The enemy will set everything in operation to uproot the confidence of the believers in the pillars of our faith in the messages of the past, which have placed us upon the elevated platform of eternal truth, and which have established and given character to the work. The Lord God of Israel has led out His people, unfolding to them truth of heavenly origin." "The truth for this time is precious, but those whose hearts have not been broken by falling on the Rock Christ Jesus, will not see and understand what is truth. They will accept that which pleases their ideas, and will begin to manufacture another foundation than that which is laid. They will flatter their own vanity and esteem, thinking that they are capable of removing the pillars of our faith, and replacing them with pillars they have devised. This will continue to be as long as time shall last." Notebook, Leaflets, pp. 61-62.