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From: Christine Guardo
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[TheAdventTimes] "Together these two
organizations have forged an organization unlike any other"
I just received the following from Pastor John Grosboll from "Steps to Life
Ministry"...Christine G.
This is more than interesting:
From:
http://www.centura.org/heritage
Centura Health hospitals and
services have served Colorado since 1996, but our 13 hospitals have served
Colorado communities for decades, some for more than 125 years. Our
sponsors—Catholic Health Initiatives and Adventist Health System—have long provided
loving, leading edge care to those in need throughout Colorado. The Catholic
community is renowned for its history of helping heal those who have nowhere
else to turn. Seventh-day Adventists have promoted whole person care and
healthier lifestyles. Together these two organizations have forged an organization
unlike any other.
The web-site proceeds to give more history of these
organizations. It’s interesting how much certain of the SDA leadership thinks
the right arm of the 3-angel’s messages has in common with Catholic Health
Initiatives.
Added by Ron
For
those who think that by “unbelievers” Ellen White meant just the world, which
is not true, let them also explain away Ellen White’s statement that it is
impossible to distinguish the fallen churches from the world, Early Writings, 273.
Linking Up With
Unbelievers
The Lord
has repeatedly instructed me to say to His people that they are not to bind up with the world in business
partnerships of any kind, and especially in so important a matter as the
establishment of a sanitarium. Believers and unbelievers,
serving two masters, cannot properly be linked together in the Lord's work.
"Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" God forbids His people
to unite with unbelievers in the building up of His institutions. {6BIO 42.1}
She laid
out clearly the involvements:
One
of the dangers to be met if we should link up with unbelievers is that we
cannot depend upon the opinions and judgment, regarding the sacred interests of
the Lord's work, of men who, with the Bible open before them, are living in
open transgression of the law of God. We cannot depend upon them, because the
enemy of Christ influences their minds. {6BIO 42.2}
They
may be ever so favorable to our work now, but in the
future there will come times of crisis, and then our people will be brought
into a position of extreme trial, if they are bound up in any way with the
worldlings. Our people may think that they can guard against these difficulties
that would naturally arise in their union with worldlings, but in this they
will be disappointed. {6BIO 42.3}
In
connection with any combination with outside parties, there will be
disappointment. It behooves us to move very
guardedly, for thereby we shall save ourselves much burden and trouble, for the
light given me is that to link up with them and to lean upon them is folly and
disappointment. {6BIO 42.4}
"Wait," she counseled. "Wait
until the Lord shall manifest Himself in a more distinct and striking manner
than He has done." {6BIO 42.5}
She
reminded the two physicians:
Our
health institutions are of value in the Lord's estimation only when He is
allowed to preside in their management. If His plans and devisings
are regarded as inferior to plans of men, He looks upon these institutions as
of no more value than the institutions established and conducted by
worldlings.--Letter 283, 1905. {6BIO 42.6}
The
Canon City enterprise was reluctantly abandoned. Boulder Sanitarium survived. {6BIO 43.1}
To place
in permanent form before church members throughout Colorado the history and the
testimonies concerning the Sanitarium matters, a pamphlet of eighty pages was
published at Pacific Press in the late fall of 1905. It carried the title
"Record of Progress and an Earnest Appeal in Behalf of the Boulder,
Colorado, Sanitarium." The pamphlet was designated as Special Testimonies,
Series B, No. 5. This made it a part of a growing series of special testimonies,
issued to meet special or local situations. The next year, after some
developments in the situation in Colorado, a second printing was made with
added material bringing the presentation up-to-date. {6BIO
43.2}
God does not contradict Himself --God
does not at one time send a message of warning, and later another message,
encouraging a movement against which He had previously given warning. His
messages do not contradict one another.—E.G. White,
Letter 287, 1905.
“God
calls to His people, saying, "Come out from among them, and be ye
separate." He asks that the love which He has shown for them may be
reciprocated and revealed by willing obedience to His commandments. His
children are to separate themselves from politics, from any alliance with unbelievers.
They are not to link their interests with the interests of the world.
"Give proof of your allegiance to Me" He says, "by standing as
My chosen heritage, as a people zealous of good works." Do not take part
in political strife. Separate from the world, and refrain from bringing into
the church or school ideas that will lead to contention or disorder. Dissension
is the moral poison taken into the system by human beings who are selfish. God
wants His servants to have clear perceptions, true and noble dignity, that
their influence may demonstrate the power of truth. The Christian life is not
to be a haphazard, emotional life. True Christian influence, exerted for the
accomplishment of the work God has appointed, is a precious agency, and it must
not be united with politics, or bound up in a confederacy with unbelievers. God
is to be the center of attraction. Every mind that is worked by the Holy Spirit
will be satisfied with Him.” {FE 483.2, 484}
“The Lord desires all who bear
the message for these last days to understand that there is a great difference
between professors of religion who are not doers of the word, and the children
of God, who are sanctified through the truth, who have that faith that works by
love and purifies the soul. The Lord speaks of those who claim to believe the
truth for this time, yet see nothing inconsistent in their taking part in
politics, mingling with the contending elements of these last days, as the
circumcised who mingle with the uncircumcised, and He declares that He will destroy
both classes together without distinction. They are doing a work that God has
not set them to do. They dishonor God by their party
spirit and contention, and He will condemn both alike.” {FE 482.1}
“The question may be asked, Are we to have
no union whatever with the world? The word of the Lord is to be our guide. Any
connection with infidels and unbelievers which would identify us with them is
forbidden by the word. We are to come out from them and be separate. In no case
are we to link ourselves with them in their plans or work. But we are not to
live reclusive lives. We are to do worldlings all the good we possibly can.
Christ has given us an example of this. When invited to eat with publicans and
sinners, He did not refuse; for in no other way than by mingling with them
could He reach this class. But on every occasion He gave them talents of words
and influence. He opened up themes of conversation which brought things of
eternal interest to their minds. And this Teacher enjoins us, "Let your
light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your
Father which is in heaven." On the temperance question take your position
without wavering. Be as firm as a rock. Be not partakers of other men's sins.
Acts of dishonesty in business deal, with believers or unbelievers, should be
reproved; and if they give no evidence of reformation, come out from among them
and be separate.” {FE 482.2, 483}
“There is a large vineyard to be cultivated;
but while Christians are to work among unbelievers, they are not to appear like
worldlings. They are not to spend their time talking politics or acting as
politicians; for by so doing, they give the enemy opportunity to come in and
cause variance and discord. Those in the ministry who desire to stand as
politicians should have their credentials taken from them; for this work God
has not given to high or low among His people. God calls upon all who minister
in doctrine to give the trumpet a certain sound. All who have received Christ,
ministers and lay members, are to arise and shine; for great peril is right
upon us. Satan is stirring the powers of earth. Everything in the world is in
confusion. God calls upon His people to hold aloft the banner bearing the
message of the third angel. We are not to go to Christ through any human being,
but through Christ we are to understand the work He has given us to do for
others.” {FE 483.1}
“God calls to His people, saying,
"Come out from among them, and be ye separate." He asks that the love
which He has shown for them may be reciprocated and revealed by willing
obedience to His commandments. His children are to separate themselves from
politics, from
any alliance with unbelievers. They are not to link their
interests with the interests of the world. "Give proof of your
allegiance to Me" He says, "by standing as My chosen heritage, as a
people zealous of good works." Do not take part in political strife.
Separate from the world, and refrain from bringing into the church or school
ideas that will lead to contention or disorder. Dissension is the moral poison
taken into the system by human beings who are selfish. God wants His servants
to have clear perceptions, true and noble dignity, that their influence may
demonstrate the power of truth. The Christian life is not to be a haphazard,
emotional life. True Christian influence, exerted for the accomplishment of the
work God has appointed, is a precious agency, and it must not be united with
politics, or bound up in a confederacy with unbelievers. God is to be the
center of attraction. Every mind that is worked by the Holy Spirit will be
satisfied with Him.” {FE 483.2, 484}
What Dr. John Grosboll does not relate is that every member of the new
movement who knows of this direct liaison with Babylon, is corporately
responsible for such if he/she is a member of the omega of apostasy new
movement SDA church.
"The
plain straight testimony must live in the church, or the curse of God will rest
upon His people as surely as it did upon ancient Israel because of their sins. God holds His
people, as a body [corporately],
responsible for the sins existing in individuals among them." Testimonies, vol.
3, p. 269.
"The headquarters of our church, affect the
whole body of believers. If the physical heart is healthy, the blood that is sent from it
through the system is also healthy; but if this fountain is impure, the whole
organism becomes diseased by the poison of the vital fluid. So it is with us. If the heart of the work becomes corrupt, the whole
church, in its various branches and interests, scattered abroad over the face of
the earth, suffers in consequence." Testimonies, vol. 4, p. 210.
Dr. Grosboll mentions “...how
much certain of the SDA leadership thinks the
right arm of the 3-angel’s messages has in common with Catholic Health
Initiatives,” but all it takes is ONE LEADER, and the rest are corporately
responsible! Just as in the case of Achan, all it took was ONE.
—rwb