Do the Judgments of the Trumpets and the
Plagues Come From God or Satan?
Some are teaching that Trumpets 1-4 are the mercy of
Jesus. This is the teaching of Steve Nagy of Australia. God’s Word and Ellen
White say that the Trumpets and the Plagues are held back by the four angels
holding the four winds until every case is decided. That would be until the
close of probation, because there are cases being decided as long as probation
continues. Here is Steve Nagy’s statement to me in response to my vision that
Satan counterfeits the Seven Trumpets.
TRUMPETS 1-4 are the MERCY of JESUS to STOP WW3 so
as to allow the LOUD CRY. To assign this MERCY to SATAN is PURE BLASPHEMY !
SATAN IS NOT MY GOD OR ANY GOD, HE IS CREATED!
Steve Nagy believes that it is an act of the mercy of
Jesus to send Trumpets 1-4 to stop WW3 so as to allow the Loud Cry. So the
valid questions arises: Why would Jesus inflict Trumpet 1-4 before the Loud
Cry, when He told John in Revelation 7, and Ellen White, that the four winds
would be held back until every case is decided in the Sanctuary? Did Jesus lie
to John and Ellen White?
"At
the commencement of the holy Sabbath, January 5, 1849, we engaged in prayer
with Brother Belden’s family at Rocky Hill, Connecticut, and the Holy Ghost
fell upon us. I was taken off in vision to the most holy place, where I saw
Jesus still interceding for Israel. On the bottom of His garment was a bell and
a pomegranate, a bell and a pomegranate. Then I saw that Jesus would not leave the most holy place
until every case was decided either for salvation or destruction, and
that the wrath of God could not come until Jesus had finished His work in the
most holy place, laid off His priestly attire, and clothed Himself with the
garments of vengeance."{CET 100.1}
Every case
involves more than just the 144,000. Ellen White agrees with John the
Revelator.
“I saw that the four angels would hold
the four winds until Jesus’ work was done in the sanctuary, and then will
come the seven last plagues. These plagues enraged the wicked against the
righteous; they thought that we had brought the judgments of God upon them, and
that if they could rid the earth of us, the plagues would then be stayed. A decree went forth to slay the saints, which caused them to cry day
and night for deliverance. This was the time of Jacob’s trouble. Then
all the saints cried out with anguish of spirit, and were delivered by the
voice of God. The one hundred and forty-four thousand triumphed. Their faces
were lighted up with the glory of God.” {CET 100.3}
It all comes down to this conclusion: Either Jesus, John
the Revelator, and Ellen White are all FALSE PROPHETS, or Steve Nagy’s theology
is seriously flawed.
Let’s look at the first four trumpets to determine if
they constitute an act of mercy by Jesus, or an evil ATTEMPT by Satan in order
to destroy men before they can be saved:
QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS:
· Does God Almighty inflict
the first four Trumpets BEFORE the Sunday Law; BEFORE the Loud Cry which begins
at the National Sunday Law?
· Does God inflict the Seven
Trumpets and the Seven Last Plagues at all? Is it God or Satan who causes both
when God’s removes His Spirit from the earth?
· It is more merciful for God
to hold the four winds until the Loud Cry is over and every case is decided as
Revelation 7 and Ellen White teach?
· Is it God’s fault that Satan
attempts to inflict a modicum of the Seven Trumpets so that he can convince the
world that they are over when he personates the second coming of Christ?
· God’s Word says that the
Seven Trumpets and the four winds will be held back until every case is
decided, so it is not God’s lack of mercy that Satan seeks to inflict a simile
of the Seven Trumpets in order to pave the way for his impersonation of
Christ’s coming.
· If Ellen White says that God
destroys (kills) no man, who inflicts the final Seven Trumpets when the four
winds are released at the Sixth Trumpet?
· Why does the Bible say that five
trumpets occur before the four winds are released in the Sixth Trumpet, when in
Revelation 7, God explicitly says that the four winds will be held until
everyone who is saved is sealed.
· Does Jesus say anywhere that
He would inflict the first four Trumpets to stop WW III? I cannot find anything
that says that.
· Would it be merciful to kill
the men on a third of the ships of the world, BEFORE the final test comes to
all men? (Trumpet number 1)
· Could it be that the first
four Trumpets are counterfeited by Satan in order to convince the Evangelicals
that it is time for Jesus to come, so he (Satan) can come first? Is that why
there are four trumpets released BEFORE the four winds are released in the
Sixth Trumpet? Or is God just contradicting Himself?
· Is it an act of mercy for
Satan to fake the first four Trumpets, so he can counterfeit the second coming
of Christ?
· It can’t be God who is
responsible for the first four Trumpets BEFORE THE SUNDAY LAW, because God
specifically told John in Revelation Chapter 7, to hold the four winds and not
to hurt the earth or the sea until all saints, including the great multitude
are sealed, and John saw that sealing finished before the Trumpets begin in
Revelation 8.
There is good evidence that Satan destroys himself and all
who are destroyed by his devices, when God removes His protection from the
earth. There is now scientific evidence that Satan can roll back the sky as a
scroll. That is happening before our very eyes as astro scientists find holes
in the ozone layer as the sky rolls back like a scroll, and the same factors
that caused this continue the process.
Scientists are now able via HAARP installations around
the world to cause huge earthquakes such as occurred in Japan that resulted in
the destruction of their nuclear plant, and affects the entire world. The
results of man’s tooling around with Large Hadron Collider’s is not yet known.
Man’s geoengineering of the weather is producing all
manner of EXTREME WEATHER EVILS, such as large amounts of huge, destructive
hail in various parts of the world. Will man finally produce the 40 talent size
hail mentioned in the Bible? I believe so!
See the link: This is what happened to the scientist who stuck his head inside a
particle accelerator
Giant Hail and and Apocalyptic
Hail Storms around the Globe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6bDuq-ZaRg
Intense storm produces large hail accumulations in
Biblián, Ecuador https://www.sott.net/article/373007-Intense-storm-produces-large-hail-accumulations-in-Biblian-Ecuador
15
Feet of Hail: Tracking the Deep Stuff https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/15-feet-of-hail-tracking-the-deep-stuff/38354
Hail in Spain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg1A96Xdnr4
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is
rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
GOD DESTROYS
NO MAN
Since Ellen White said God destroys NO MAN, are the seven
trumpets occurring BEFORE GOD’S TIMETABLE OF THE SIXTH TRUMPET, BEFORE THE
MIDNIGHT CRY; BEFORE THE SUNDAY LAW, BEFORE THE CLOSE OF PROBATION—to be
attributed to the mercy of Jesus, or the fake, false flag counterfeits of
Satan, to convince the world the Trumpets are over, so he can impersonate the
second coming of Jesus?
"God destroys no one." Testimonies, Vol. 5, 120.
"God destroys no man. Everyone who is destroyed will
have destroyed himself." Christ's
Object Lessons, 84.
“I was shown that the judgments of God would not come
directly out from the Lord upon them, but in this way: They place themselves
beyond His protection. He warns, corrects, reproves, and points out the only
path of safety; then, if those who have been the objects of His special care
will follow their own course, independent of the Spirit of God, after repeated
warnings, if they choose their own way, then He does not commission His angels
to prevent Satan’s decided attacks upon them.”
{LDE 242.1}
“It is Satan’s power that is at work at sea and on land,
bringing calamity and distress and sweeping off multitudes to make sure of his
prey.”—Manuscript Releases 14:3 (1883).
{LDE 242.2}
“God will use His enemies as instruments to punish those
who have followed their own pernicious ways whereby the truth of God has been
misrepresented, misjudged, and dishonored.”—The Paulson Collection of Ellen G.
White Letters, 136 (1894). {LDE
242.3}
"God does not stand toward the sinner as an executioner
of the sentence against transgression; but He leaves the rejecters of His mercy
to themselves, to reap that which they have sown. Every ray of light rejected,
every warning despised or unheeded, every passion indulged, every transgression
of the law of God, is a seed sown, which yields its unfailing harvest. The
Spirit of God, persistently resisted, is at last withdrawn from the sinner, and
then there is left no power to control the evil passions of the soul, and no
protections from the malice and enmity of Satan." The Great Controversy,
p. 36.
“I was shown that the judgments of God would not come
directly out from the Lord upon them, but in this way: They place themselves
beyond His protection. …[After] repeated warnings, if they choose their own
way, then He does not commission His angels to prevent Satan's decided attacks
upon them. {LDE 242.1}
“The apostle John in vision heard a loud voice in Heaven
exclaiming, "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the
devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he
hath but a short time." [Revelation 12:12.] Fearful are the scenes which
call forth this exclamation from the heavenly voice. The wrath of Satan
increases as his time grows short, and his work of deceit and destruction
reaches its culmination in the time of trouble. God's long-suffering has ended.
Why?
“The world has rejected his mercy, despised his love, and
trampled upon his law. The wicked have passed the boundary of their probation,
and the Lord withdraws his protection, and leaves them to the mercy of the
leader they have chosen. Satan will have power over those who have yielded
themselves to his control, and he will plunge the inhabitants of the earth into
one great, final trouble. As the angels of God cease to hold in check the
fierce winds of human passion, all the elements of strife will be let loose.
The whole world will be involved in ruin more terrible than that which came
upon Jerusalem of old.” {4SP 440.3}
Now, do you think Trumpets 1-4 are the “mercy of Jesus?”
when Jesus said they are not to begin until the sixth trumpet when the four
winds are loosed? Even then, they won’t be caused by Jesus! ~rwb
Wow !
Satan counterfeits the TRUMPETS ??
https://omegacountdownministries.neocities.org/myvisionrev8and9.htm
So . . . MERCY comes via SATAN since the
Trumpets are Wrath mixed with Mercy !
So . . . Satan STOPS WW3 with the Four
Trumpets, and thus it must be SATAN who casts down the censor in Rev 8:5
So . . . Satan must be the one who
answers the prayers of ALL the Saints in Rev 8:3 !
So . . . its SATAN that looks down in
MERCY upon the Remnant that are not sealed and commands the Four angels to HOLD
the Four Winds
SO ! The 144K are NOT sealed before
Tribulation because the Four Winds are ONLY held until they are sealed. Ron
says the Four Winds are held until the Plagues. So there will be no WW3 because
WAR is ARMY as per Rev 9:16 and Winds are fierce human passions and
strife says Ellen White. No winds, NO WAR.
TRUMPETS 1-4 are the MERCY of JESUS to STOP WW3 so
as to allow the LOUD CRY. To assign this MERCY to SATAN is PURE BLASPHEMY ! SATAN
IS NOT MY GOD OR ANY GOD, HE IS CREATED!
The GREAT Blasphemer, SATAN. Satan is not
my brother, the Pope is not my Brother and neither are you Ron. You have shaken
yourself OUT.
I won't reply to your article since you
believe that your VISIONS are the FINAL WORD.
Steve.