Virtual Atheists


16. “Upside down.  They were attempting, as it were, to have the potter take orders from the clay.  They regarded themselves as having wisdom greater than that of the Creator. These spiritual leaders were virtual atheists, who masqueraded under the guise of religion.” SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 4, p. 216.



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I recently heard about an SDA minister who opined that if one believed and read Ellen White, he/she would not respect the ministers who lead the flock. I have news for such ministers. Maybe, like the Catholics in the middle ages, the ministers would not like their patrons reading the Bible because of the things it teaches against the leaders. Here are a few examples:


Isa 9:16 For the leaders of this people cause [them] to err; and [they that are] led of them [are] destroyed. 


Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. 


Eze 22:27 Her princes in the midst thereof [are] like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, [and] to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. 


Zep 3:3 Her princes [leaders] within her [are] roaring lions; her judges [are] evening wolves; they gnaw not the bones till the morrow. 


Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets [within the church], which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 


Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 


Luk 10:3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves. 


Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.


Mic 3:11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, [Is] not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us. 


Eze 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD.  


Webster’s defines a prophet as one who claims to represent God. Do the leaders consider themselves prophets? Do they “claim” to represent God? Dr. B.B. Beach told me over the phone that I had better be careful how I speak to the prophets, referring to himself. He lied to me saying that the church was not allied in any way with the World Council of Churches, when I had written to the WCC and they sent me a Directory to Christian Councils that lists SDA’s as FULL MEMBERS in at least five countries of the world, and lesser participants in many countries.


At the same time I spoke to Dr. Beach, the church was embroiled in a major controversy in Hungary, because about 1500 SDA church members there were protesting the church’s MEMBERSHIP in the Hungarian Council of Free Churches, which is a MEMBER of the WCC.


The Adventist Review was confessing around the same time that it had been a member of the Hungarian Council of Free Churches for 30 years past. So as Mic 3:11 says, the leaders divine lies. Virtual atheists don’t mind lying—they live a lie.


The last page of the Directory to Christian Councils says that the WCC is in working relationship with the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.


“The same disobedience and failure which were seen in the Jewish church have characterized in a greater degree the people who have had this great light from heaven in the last messages of warning.” Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 456.


History repeats itself. “The thing that has been, it is that which shall be: and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” (Ecc. 1:9). In other words, “The important movements of the present have their parallel in those of the past.” (G.C. 343).


That the Advent Movement is an important movement of the present no one can deny and it has its parallel in the history of Ancient Israel:


 “The remnant church is called to go through an experience similar to that of the Jews.” (1 SM, 387). Not one of us can afford to ignore the following warning:


“The trials of the children of Israel, and their attitude just before the first coming of Christ, have been presented before me, again and again, to ILLUSTRATE the position of the people of God in their experience before the second coming of Christ—how the enemy sought every occasion to take control of the minds of the Jews, and today her is seeking to blind the minds of God’s servants, that they may not be able to discern the Precious Truth.” (1 SM, 406; 2 Cor 4:4). The “precious truth” mentioned here is the light sent to the Seventh-day Adventists in 1888. 


"I have been shown that the spirit of the world is fast leavening the church. You are following the same path as did ancient Israel. There is the same falling away from your holy calling as God's peculiar people. You are having fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness. Your concord with unbelievers have provoked he Lord's displeasure. You know not the things that belong to your peace, and they are fast being hid from your eyes. [The very words applied to fallen Israel on page 17 of The Great Controversy] Your neglect to follow the light will place you in a more unfavorable position than the Jews upon whom Christ pronounced a woe." Testimonies, Vol. 5, pp. 75-76.


So if the leaders of ancient Israel were virtual atheists, then what does that say for current day leaders of professing Israel?


"Like ancient Israel, the church has dishonored her God by departing from the light, neglecting her duties, and abusing her high and exalted privilege of being peculiar and holy in character. Her members have violated their covenant to live for God and him only. They have joined with the selfish and world-loving. Pride, the love of pleasure, and sin have been cherished, and CHRIST HAS DEPARTED. His Spirit has been quenched in the church. Satan works side by side with professed Christians yet they are so destitute of spiritual discernment that they do not detect him." E.G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 2, pp. 441-442.



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From: Ron Beaulieu


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Subject: [AdventistHotIssues] Virtual Atheists!


Virtual atheists—says SDA Bible Commentary on Isaiah 29:16: 


Isa 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? 


16. “Upside down.  They were attempting, as it were, to have the potter take orders from the clay.  They regarded themselves as having wisdom greater than that of the Creator. These spiritual leaders were virtual atheists, who masqueraded under the guise of religion.” SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 4, p. 216.


Ellen White said SDA's are following EXACTLY in the path of the Jews and she (rather the Holy Spirit) indicts them with UNBELIEF:


Egypt -- “The church has turned back from following Christ her Leader and is steadily retreating toward Egypt. Yet few are alarmed or astonished at their want of spiritual power. Doubt and even disbelief of the testimonies of the Spirit of God, is leavening our churches everywhere. Satan would have it thus.” Testimonies, vol. 5, 217; see also ibid., 211; ibid., vol. 1, 608–609; ibid., vol. 9, 164; Gospel Workers, 14–15. 


Begin at My Sanctuary -- "Here we see that the church--the Lord's sanctuary--was the first to feel the stroke of the wrath of God. The ancient men, those to whom God had given great light and who had stood as guardians of the spiritual interests of the people, had betrayed their trust. They had taken the position that we need not look for miracles and the marked manifestation of God's power as in former days. Times have changed. These words strengthen their unbelief, and they say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do evil. He is too merciful to visit His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and safety" is the cry from men who will never again lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish together." E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211.    


Their UNBELIEF is hard to hide! They live like they don't believe and the sheeple follow suit. They don't believe either. There is a huge surprise looming on the horizon!