My Vision of July 14, 2010

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The Lord has been pleased to give me the following confirmation vision in response to the below item by Ellen White that is misconstrued and totally misunderstood by DD,  who is Satan’s agent that subscribes to the same evil Spirits as Ernie Knoll. This is DD’s presentation of Satan’s attempt to deceive God’s people. DD has only a very surface knowledge of the Word and Ellen White, but that kind of knowledge is sufficient to deceive Laodicean who have but a surface understanding and who are totally bereft of spiritual discernment to see the deeper things of the Word of God and to interpret Ellen White and Scripture aright. My vision will be stated below DD’s following erroneous interpretation of an important statement by Ellen G. White.


----- Original Message -----

From: DD


Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:03 PM

Subject: [Adventist-fm] The Loud Cry - Welcome to Orion Ministries



Ellen White Says---

 Ellen White says The  "loud cry"does ot consist of calling God's people out of the SDA church.   The Lord has sent messages of warning and entreaty, messages of reproof and rebuke, and they have not been in vain. But we have never had a message that the Lord would disorganize the church. We have never had the prophecy concerning Babylon applied to the Seventh-day Adventist Church, or been informed that the "loud cry" consisted in calling God's people to come out of her; for this is not God's plan concerning Israel.  {RH, October 3, 1893 par. 12} 


Ron responds:  Notice the date, 1893. In that year two men by the names Stanton and Caldwell printed a tract called the Loud Cry, which called folk out of the SDA church, which was a valid church at that time, because Ellen White said the church was then receiving a refreshing, was heeding the Laodicean message, and was keeping the commandments of God. Where else would one go to improve on that she pined?

She said such message WILL COME---FUTURE TENSE  

“Such messages will come, and it will be claimed for them that they are sent of God, but the claim will be false; for they are not filled with light, but with darkness. There will be messages of accusation against the people of God, similar to the work done by Satan in accusing God’s people, and these messages will be sounding at the very time when God is saying to His people, ‘Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people; but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and His glory shall be seen upon thee.’”— {RH, August 29, 1893 par. 5}  


“Believe it not,” said Jesus, foretelling specifically what men in the last days would teach regarding His coming. “The claim will be false,” declares the Spirit of Jesus through His servant, in foretelling “messages of accusation” against God’s people, in an attempt to revive the teaching that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is Babylon. [Emphasis mine—rb]


Ron responds: Yes, such messages are flourishing against the true reformers and the faithful SDA church to this day. There are many ex-SDA’s who hate the pioneer message and are calling folk away from the original truths of pioneer Seventh-day Adventists. Such persons give messages of wrongful and false accusation against the true people of God. These messages are indeed sounding presently when God is calling to His people to “‘Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people; but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and His glory shall be seen upon thee.’”


The Response the Lord Confirmed to me in Vision This July 14, 2010


Many of the proofs confirmed to me in vision the Lord has shown me before, but He showed me how these proofs apply specifically to the Ellen G. White statement falsely interpreted by DD. We have nothing but pathos for DD and thankfulness that he agitates error that God might show the pure truth to those who desire if with all the heart, mind and soul. Ellen White said that it is through the agitation of heresy that the truth is often brought to fore.

·    It is exactly true that the Loud Cry does not consist of calling GOD'S PEOPLE out of the true and faithful SDA church. Why would that ever be so? God’s true and faithful commandment-keeping people will be the final church triumphant.

·    It is just as true that the Loud Cry does consist in calling God’s people out of all fallen, apostate churches, and even apostate Jerusalem, as well as apostate Babylon, to wit: 31 And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward: 32 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and they that escape out of mount Zion: the zeal of the LORD of hosts shall do this. Isaiah 37:31, 32. Ellen White defines the remnant as the last generation of faithful men—the 144,000, who are translated without seeing death.

·     "The woman is a symbol of the church, and the remnant of the church represents the Christians of the last generation of men, living just prior to the second advent. The dragon makes war on these for keeping the commandments of God, Sabbath and all, and having the testimony of Jesus Christ, which, according to the inspired definition of chap. xix, 10, 'is the spirit of prophecy.' Here, then, are the causes of the dragon's warfare upon the remnant. They teach the observance of the ten commandments, and the revival of the gifts, and acknowledge the gift of prophecy among them. When the Devil got one foot upon the fourth commandment, and the other upon the gifts planted in the Christian church by Jesus Christ, then his satanic majesty was filled with revengeful delight. But when the remnant, whom God designs to fit for translation to Heaven without seeing death, 'ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein,' then the dragon is wroth, and makes war on them.

The true spirit of the dragonic host, which is already being somewhat developed, is vividly described in Isa. xxx, 8-13, as being manifested just prior to the sudden destruction of those who hate the pure testimony, and love smooth and deceitful things." E. G. White, Spiritual Gifts, Vol. III, 26, 27.

·    Decades ago, SDA leaders instructed parents in Russia to send their children to school on the Sabbath.[i] This still goes on in Russia as they hold school six days of the week. True Reformers went underground when this occurred. We are to obey Caesar only when such obedience does not interfere with God’s law. So the apostate new movement cannot honestly be referred to as God’s commandment-KEEPING people. Alf Lohne, a high-placed SDA General Conference Officer at the time, substantiates this fact in his book on Russia. See footnote regarding Alf Lohne’s book on Russia, 1987.

·    The true and faithful SDA church must have the presence of God in order to be a church, The Upward Look, p. 315. "God has a church.  It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.  'Where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them' [Matt. 18:20].  Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church." The Upward Look 315.

·    DD’s fatal mistake is not having the spiritual discernment to understand and believe Ellen White’s definition of God’s true church, and that any valid church must be accompanied with Christ’s presence.

·    I am not confusing the church militant with the church triumphant. Don’t even be tempted into that trap. The home churches are now valid church militants if they keep the commandments of God. The wheat and tares will dwell together in those churches as well, but not open sinning apostates. But a new movement that has removed God and pillar doctrines, does not qualify as a church because only Christ’s presence can constitute a valid church.

·    The omega of apostasy new movement has removed God, Selected Messages, Bk. 1, 204, 205. Thus it does not even qualify as a church. It is the Synagogue of Satan, in COUNTERPART to the apostate Jewish church from A.D. 27-70. Jesus Himself called that Temple "church" the Synagogue of Satan.

·    Babylon is part and parcel of Satan’s Synagogue.

·    Ellen White never stated that God’s professed “chosen” people, SDA’s would never be any part of Babylon. She stated specifically how they could become a part of Babylon, the cage of every unclean and hateful bird, and every one of those specifications has come true as regards the omega of apostasy new movement. Go to the White Estate and search for the words “cage of every unclean and hateful bird.”

·    Ellen White said that if the church became Laodicean, it would not stand in the favor of God any more than the fallen churches. The church became Laodicean (lukewarm) and progressed to a far worse state—cold, strictly forbidden apostasy—the omega of apostasy that was to “SURELY COME” AND WAX STRONGER UNTIL JESUS COMES.

·    "If the church of God becomes LUKEWARM [LAODICEAN] it does not stand in favor with God any more than do the churches that are represented as having fallen and become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Those who have had opportunities to hear and receive the truth, and who have united with the Seventh-day Adventist church, calling themselves the commandment keeping people of God, and yet possess no more vitality and consecration to God than do the nominal churches, will receive of the plagues of God just as verily as the churches who oppose the law of God." E.G. White, Letter 35, 1898.

·    Ellen White said that there would be a COUNTERPART to the Synagogue of Satan that we are not to pray for. The only other “chosen” people of God were professing Seventh-day Adventists. Thus, they are the COUNTERPART mentioned by Ellen White.

·    COUNTERPART: "The Lord commanded one of his ancient servants, 'Pray not thou for this people [Jer. 7:16 and 11:14], neither lift up cry nor prayer for them neither make intercession to me for I will not hear thee.' The prophet thus describes the sins which had called forth this fearful denunciation: 'The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means and my people love to have it so and what will ye do in the end thereof?' 'From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, every one is given to covetousness and from the prophet even unto the priest, every one dealeth falsely. They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace, when there is no peace.' The apostles declare that this state of things will find its COUNTERPART in the last days. Many have a form of godliness, but in their daily life deny the power thereof. They have ceased to be convicted of their sins or alarmed at their state. They say in their hearts, 'The church is flourishing. Peace and spiritual prosperity are within her borders.' The words of the prophet may well apply to these self-deceivers, 'They have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them." E. G. White, Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald,  11-07-82.

·    In the type of apostate Israel as the typical counterpart, the faithful were gathered out of that apostate Synagogue beginning with the disciples of Christ in A.D. 27, Desire of Ages, 232, and commenced with the laity from A.D. 34 and on. They formed home churches all over Judea and the headquarters of the disciples was at Jerusalem where also the headquarters of the Synagogue of Satan was.

·    It is the True Reformer SDA church that restores the paths to dwell in--that restores the waste places created by the Omega of Apostasy which was to "SURELY COME" AND WAX STRONGER UNTIL Jesus comes. The Synagogue of Satan new movement is not the True Reformer church that is registered in heaven.

·    The True Reformer Church is the SDA church triumphant that is indeed registered (written) in heaven. It consists of the 144,000, men made perfect. "Characteristics of True Reformers.--Here are given the characteristics of those who shall be reformers, who will bear the banner of the third angel's message, those who avow themselves God's commandment-keeping people, and who honor God, and are earnestly engaged, in the sight of all the universe, in building up the old waste places. Who is it that calls them, the repairers of the breach, the restorers of paths to dwell in? It is God. Their names are registered [written--Heb. 12:22, 23] in heaven as reformers, restorers, as raising the foundations of many generations." E. G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 4, 1151.

·    It is the SDA True Reformer Church triumphant that indeed builds up the old waste places created by the apostate new movement in its tearing down of pillar doctrines and replacing them with the philosophy of men. It was confirmed to me that the church’s change of Bible Readings in 1949, to change what had been the true version of the human nature of Christ, constitutes an antichrist teaching.

·    The smuggling in of the trinity doctrine in the early 1930’s, and the voting to adopt it in General Conference Sessions in 1980, effectively sweeps away the entire Christian economy. It achieves this by teaching that the Holy Spirit always existed as a third person, rather than the third person being the soul of the life of Christ, which was divested from the personality of His humanity at His Incarnation in the heavenly Sanctuary Atonement sacrifice. That sacrifice preceded the sacrifice on the cross, and without that highest good, crowning gift sacrifice, the cross would have been to no avail. Why? Because the Holy Spirit thus divested from the personality of Christ’s was heaven’s highest good, crowning gift given to man for the cure of the sin problem. Without that highest of sacrificial gifts, sin would go on forever. The trinity doctrine obviates that Sanctuary sacrifice and Atonement in the Sanctuary of Heaven and thus sweeps away the entire Christian economy. The omega was to have to do with the personality of Christ, and so it does. What possible virtue could such an omega of apostasy new movement have after such an abominable act of antichrist treason? No abomination could be worse than to do away with the “highest good, crowning gift” heaven can bestow, without which the church has no efficacy whatsoever. For those who do not understand the Godhead well, the reason the sentence: "There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a Unity of three co-eternal persons," is antichrist, is because the Holy Spirit in the form of a third person was not eternal. He became a third person at the Incarnation. The Holy Spirit always existed in the person of the Father and the Son, but did not become a third person until the Sanctuary/Atonement Sacrifice in the heavenly Sanctuary at the Incarnation. This was the "highest good, crowning gift sacrifice heaven could bestow. So any time you see the words “co-eternal” as applied to third person of the Godhead, you will know the teaching is false.

·    "Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin.

In the gift of the Spirit, Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could bestow....

The Spirit was given as a regenerating agency, and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....

It is by the Spirit that the heart is made pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given his Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress his own character upon the church." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42.

·    Clearly, the impress of Christ’s character cannot come upon an omega of apostasy new movement that denies the sacrificial act that made such possible.

·    “From the beginning, faithful souls have constituted the church on earth.  In every age the Lord has had His watchmen, who have borne a faithful testimony to the generation in which they lived.  These sentinels gave the message of warning; and when they were called to lay off their armor, others took up the work.  God brought these witnesses into covenant relation with Himself, uniting the church on earth with the church in heaven.  He has sent forth His angels to minister to His church, and the gates of hell have not been able to prevail against His people.”  E.G. White, The Acts of the Apostles, p. 12. The gates of hell will not prevail against faithful souls--obviously.

·    "The members of the church triumphant--the church in heaven--will be permitted to draw near to the members of the church militant, to aid them in their necessity." E. G. White, The Southern Watchman, Sep. 8, 1903.

·    The True Reformers, called by God, are permitted to draw near to the members of church militants and apostate churches to aid them in their necessity if they will receive that aid. True Reformers have made that attempt in every succeeding generation, Desire of Ages, 232, only to be thwarted by ecclesiastical leaders who will not tolerate the light of forever unfolding truth.

·    The True Reformers, the bride, the 144,000, awaken the ten virgins who are guests at the wedding feast: Christ’s Object Lessons, pp. 405-406. Notice that the voice of God and the voice of the bride awaken all ten virgins, and Matthew 25 says “all those virgins slumbered and slept.” So God calls the bride and she calls the daughter of Zion, the guests. See Isaiah 62:11, 12, which is a paraphrase of the Midnight Cry call of Matthew 25. If guests they cannot be the bride, The Great Controversy, pp. 426, 427.

·    The rebels are shaken out from ever entering the kingdom of heaven by the bride who is taken into covenant relationship with Christ. Ezekiel 20:34-38, rather than out of any church militant, which is the common misconception.


The Lord has thus shown me that those who will accept this irrefutable truth based upon Scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy, will not be deceived by the omega of apostasy new movement which is Satan’s entrapment for destroying men, maidens and little children, in another literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9 per Ellen White’s statements to that affect. Any future literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9, must include another coming out, because that is exactly what occurred in the last literal fulfillment in A.D. 27-70. So any future literal fulfillment would not indeed be literal if it did not include a coming out from apostate Jerusalem as well as Babylon.


"Study the 9th chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally fulfilled yet the time is passing, and the people are asleep. They refuse to humble their souls and to be converted. Not a great while longer will the Lord bear with the people who have such great and important truths revealed to them, but who refuse to bring these truths into their individual experience. The time is short. God is calling will YOU hear? Will YOU receive His message? Will YOU be converted before it is too late? Soon, very soon, every case will be decided for eternity. Letter 106, 1909, pp. 2, 3, 5, 7. (To "The churches in Oakland and Berkeley, September 26, 1909.)" E. G. White Manuscript Releases Volume One, p. 260.


“The time will soon come when the prophecy of Ezekiel 9 will be fulfilled; that prophecy should be carefully studied, for it will be fulfilled to the very letter.”— Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, p. 1303.


The Signs of the Times, February 12, 1880:  “The desolation of Jerusalem stands as a solemn warning before the eyes of modern Israel.” 


“The desolation of Jerusalem in the days of Jeremiah is a solemn warning to modern Israel, that the counsels and admonitions given them through chosen instrumentalities cannot be disregarded with impunity.”  Prophets and Kings, 416.    


Begin at My Sanctuary -- "Here we see that the church--the Lord's sanctuary--was the first to feel the stroke of the wrath of God. The ancient men, those to whom God had given great light and who had stood as guardians of the spiritual interests of the people, had betrayed their trust. They had taken the position that we need not look for miracles and the marked manifestation of God's power as in former days. Times have changed. These words strengthen their unbelief, and they say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do evil. He is too merciful to visit His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and safety" is the cry from men who will never again lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish together." E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211.


The Lord showed me that those who do not care to know the deeper things of His Word will not understand what you have just read. They will thus be led to the slaughter as were all apostate Jews in the last literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9. Some preterist agents of Satan in the new movement church would have you believe that Ezekiel 9 was fulfilled in the Nebuchadnezzar captivities. But that is not the case because Ezekiel 9 is the sealing of God’s people, the mark by the man in linen, after their probation ended in A.D. 34, at the end of the 70 weeks prophecy of Daniel 9, which coincided with the stoning of Stephen. Sadly, and unbelievably, even the SDA Bible Commentary says that Ezekiel 9 was fulfilled under the Nebuchadnezzar sieges of Jerusalem. That is as false as anything could be. The three sieges by Nebuchadnezzar were permitted by God to punish the Jews by captivity that they might reform. That is far different than the wholesale slaughter of men, maidens and little children in A.D. 70, exactly as Ezekiel 9 prophesied, and exactly as Matthew 22:7 predicted.


In the name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,



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