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Ellen White was so correct when
she gave instructions reDTding the weight of evidence
formula. I have stated the importance of that formula many times. The following
post by DTZ. will illustrate just how important it is. When every word is
considered, Ellen White interprets herself and one cannot be in error if he/she
will consider the meaning of every word. Here is the formula:
Weight of Evidence Formula: "1. Every word must have
its proper bearing on the subject presented in the Bible 2. All Scripture is
necessary, and may be understood by diligent application and study 3.
Nothing revealed in Scripture can or will be hid from those who ask in faith,
not wavering 4. To understand doctrine, bring all the
scriptures together on the subject you wish to know, then let every word have its
proper influence and if you can form your
theory without a contradiction, you cannot be in error 5. Scripture must be its own expositor,
[interpreter] since it is a rule of itself. If I depend on a teacher to expound
to me, and he should guess at its meaning, or desire
to have it so on account of his sectarian creed, or to be thought wise, then
his guessing, desire, creed, or wisdom is my rule, and not the Bible." E.G. White, Second Advent
Review and Herald, 11-25-84, pr. 24.
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From: DT
To: Adventist-fm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 12,
2011 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Adventist-fm]
Amazing Similarities between Israel and SDA's says Welch
The Lord is soon to come. There must be a refining, winnowing process in
every church, for there are among us wicked men who do not love the truth or
honor God.--RH March 19, 1895. {LDE 173.3}
The great issue so near at hand [enforcement of Sunday laws] will weed out
those whom God has not appointed and He will have a pure, true, sanctified
ministry prepared for the latter rain.--3SM 385 (1886). {LDE 179.2}
The shaking of God blows away multitudes like dry leaves.--4T 89 (1876).
{LDE 180.1}
Chaff like a cloud will be borne away on the wind, even from places where we
see only floors of rich wheat.--5T 81 (1882). {LDE 180.2}
The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while
the sinners in Zion will be sifted out--the
chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but
nevertheless it must take place.--2SM 380 (1886). {LDE 180.5}
As the storm approaches, a large class who have
professed faith in the third angel's message, but have
not been sanctified through obedience to the truth, abandon their position and
join the ranks of the opposition.--GC 608 (1911). {LDE
180.6}
Proof
the bad leave the Church! But of course the false prophet says that to read
what Ellen White clearly says is an erroneous misinterpretation-- funny why do
you need Ron Beaulieu to interpret Ellen White for us?
DT
Ron responds: I am not going to interpret these verses for you as DTsays I do. I am going to show you how crucial it is to
follow the weight of evidence formula and let every word have its proper
bearing and influence. A very key word
in “the church appears as about to fall” statement is Zion. It says sinners in
Zion will be sifted out.
It is of serious importance that we understand how the Bible interprets
the word Zion. So that is our first task.
Isaiah Chapter 62
1 For Zion's
sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation
thereof as a lamp that burneth.
2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt
be called by a new name,
which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
3 Thou shalt also be a
crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand
of thy God.
4 Thou shalt no
more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and
thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy
land shall be married.
5 For as a young man marrieth a
virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy
God rejoice over thee.
6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never
hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not
silence,
7 And give him no rest, till he establish,
and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
8 The LORD hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm
of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn
to be meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy
wine, for the which thou hast laboured:
9 But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise
the LORD; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts
of my holiness.
10 Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the
way of the people; cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up
a standard for the people.
11 Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the
world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh;
behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
12 And they shall call them, The holy
people, The redeemed of the LORD:
and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken.
· In verses 1-5, we find that
Zion is married. She is the bride of Jesus Christ, the church triumphant.
· Zion gets a new name—New
Jerusalem, Revelation 3:10-12. (Philadelphia)
· Zion has sons and
daughters—Verses 5 and 11 respectively.
· Zion prepares the way of the
people—she casts up the highway and gathers out the stones; she lifts up a
standard for the people. (True Reformers which we will prove below).
"Characteristics of True Reformers.--Here are given the characteristics of those who shall be reformers, who
will bear the banner of the third angel's message, those who avow themselves
God's commandment-keeping people, and who honor God, and are earnestly
engaged, in the sight of all the universe, in
building up the old waste places. Who
is it that calls them, The repairers of the breach, The restorers of
paths to dwell in? It is God. Their
names are registered [written--Heb. 12:22, 23] in heaven as reformers,
restorers, as raising the foundations of many generations." E. G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 4, 1151.
Now
let’s investigate more evidence about Zion from the Bible and Ellen White, so
as to further identify Zion as the bride, the church triumphant, and not the
church militant.
"To
Meet the Bridegroom"
[This chapter is based on Matt. 25:1-13.]
Christ with His disciples is seated upon the Mount of Olives. The sun
has set behind the mountains, and the heavens are curtained with the shades of
evening. In full view is a dwelling house lighted up brilliantly as if for some
festive scene. The light streams from the openings, and an expectant company
wait around, indicating that a marriage procession is soon to appear. In many
parts of the East, wedding festivities are held in the evening. The bridegroom goes
forth to meet his bride and bring her to his home. By torchlight the bridal
party proceed from her father's house to his own, where a feast is provided for
the invited guests. In the scene upon which Christ looks, a company are awaiting the
appearance of the bridal party, intending to join the procession.
Lingering
near the bride's house are ten young women robed in white. Each carries a
lighted lamp and a small flagon for oil. All are anxiously watching for the
appearance
Page 406
of the bridegroom. But
there is a delay. Hour after hour passes; the watchers become weary and fall
asleep. At midnight the cry is heard, "Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go
ye out to meet him." The sleepers, suddenly awaking, spring to their feet.
They see
the procession moving on, bright with torches and glad with music. They hear
the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride. The ten maidens seize
their lamps and begin to trim them, in haste to go forth. But five have
neglected to fill their flasks with oil. They did not anticipate so long a
delay, and they have not prepared for the emergency. In distress they appeal to
their wiser companions saying, "Give us of your oil; for our lamps are
going out." (Margin.) But the waiting five, with
their freshly trimmed lamps, have emptied their flagons. They have no oil to
spare, and they answer, "Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you:
but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves."
While they went to buy, the
procession moved on, and left them behind. The five with lighted lamps joined
the throng and entered the house with the bridal train, and the door was shut.
When the foolish virgins reached the banqueting hall, they received an
unexpected denial. The master of the feast declared, "I know you
not." They were left standing without, in the empty street, in the
blackness of the night.
As Christ sat looking upon the
party that waited for the bridegroom, He told His disciples the story of the
ten virgins, by their experience illustrating the experience of the church that
shall live just before His second coming.
The two classes of watchers
represent the two classes who profess to be waiting for their Lord. They are
called virgins because they profess a pure faith. By the lamps is represented
the word of God. The psalmist says, "Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and
a light unto may path." Christ’s Object Lessons, p. 405-406.
Questions and Statements to Ponder:
·
By torchlight the Bridegroom leads the bride from her
father’s home to the bridegroom’s home.
·
Where is the bride’s home? It is Jerusalem. (In our
case spiritual Jerusalem).
·
Where is the bridegroom’s home? Answer: In the
heavenly Sanctuary where the bride enters by faith. “They hated those who loved His
appearing and shut them out of the churches. Those who rejected the first
message could not be benefited by the second; neither were they benefited by the midnight cry, which was to prepare them
to enter with Jesus by faith into the most holy place of the heavenly sanctuary.
And by rejecting the two former messages, they have so darkened their
understanding that they can see no light in the third angel’s message which
shows the way into the most holy place.”
Early Writings, pp. 260, 261.
·
The Philadelphia bride of Christ in 1844, was Ellen
White and the reformers who were a group of fifty faithful souls (out of estimates as high as 120,000
professing souls before the disappointment) on the morning of October 22,
1844.
Zion (Sion) in Hebrews 12:22-25: 22But ye are come unto mount Sion, and
unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable
company of angels,
23To the general assembly and church of the
firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge
of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24And to Jesus the mediator of the
new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than
that of Abel.
25See that ye refuse not him that
speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much
more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
· Zion is the firstborn,
the firstfruits, the 144,000 barley bride. She is not wheat. The wise virgins,
her sons and daughters, are wheat. The firstfruits early crop in Israel was
barley.
·
The bride is awakened first by God. Then His voice
with the voice of the bride, awakens the 10 virgins.
The bride is not the guests—the
ten virgins, and the ten virgins are not the bride, to wit:
·
"The marriage
represents the reception by Christ of His kingdom. The Holy City, the New Jerusalem, which is the capital and representative of
the kingdom, is called 'the bride, the Lamb's wife.' Said the angel to John: 'Come hither, I will show thee the bride,
the Lamb's wife.' 'He carried me away in the spirit,' says the prophet, 'and
showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from
God.' Revelation 21:9, 10. Clearly, then, the bride represents the Holy City, and the virgins that go out to meet the bridegroom are a symbol of
the church [militant]. In the Revelation the people of God are said to be the guests at the marriage supper.
Revelation 19:9. If
guests, they cannot be represented also as the bride...He will receive the New
Jerusalem, the capital of His kingdom, 'prepared as a bride adorned for her
husband.'" E. G. White, The
Great Controversy,
426, 427.
·
The apostate new movement
SDA church is claiming to be Zion, the bride of Christ, when she is merely a
candidate for being either the wise and/or foolish virgins.
·
The bride is awakened and
called by God to be True Reformers, who are the watchmen on the walls of Zion
and Jerusalem.
·
The bride is the
firstfruits, firstborn, and without guile—blameless, Revelation 14:1-4.
·
The voice of God and the
voice of the bride awakens the 10 virgins with the
Midnight Cry, just as they did in 1844.
·
Then there is a tarrying
time during which the 10 virgins slumber and slept. Matthew 25 says they all
slept.
1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be
likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the
bridegroom.
2And five of
them were wise, and five were foolish.
3They
that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4But the wise
took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5While the
bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and
slept.
6And
at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to
meet him. Matthew 25:1-5.
· The bride of all
generations never sleeps day nor night. She is the
faithful watchmen on the walls of Zion.
·
Are the watchmen on the walls of the SDA church
faithful watchmen?
In 1844,
the SDA church was called to be a chosen Zion bride for Christ. She was
supposed to maintain faithful watchmen on the walls of that Zion. Let’s see if
that church ends up as having faithful watchmen on its walls.
"Jesus sends HIS PEOPLE
a message of warning to prepare them for his coming. To the prophet John was
made known the closing work in the great plan of man's redemption. He beheld an
angel flying 'in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to
preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred,
and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to
him for the hour of his Judgment is come and worship him that made heaven, and
earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters [Rev. 14:6, 7.].
The angel represented in prophecy as delivering this message, symbolizes a
class of faithful men, who, obedient to the promptings of God's Spirit
and the teachings of his word, proclaim this warning to the inhabitants of
earth. This message was not to be
committed to the religious leaders of the people. They had failed to
preserve their connection with God, and had REFUSED THE LIGHT FROM HEAVEN
therefore they WERE NOT of the number described by the apostle Paul: 'But ye,
brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye
are all the children of light, and the children of the day we are not of the night nor of darkness' [1 Thess. 5:4, 5].
The [once] watchmen upon the
[once] walls of Zion should be the first to catch the tidings of the Saviour's advent, the first to
lift their voices to proclaim him near, the first to warn the people to prepare
for his coming. But they were at ease,
dreaming of peace and safety, while the people were asleep in their sins. Jesus saw HIS CHURCH, like the barren
fig-tree, covered with pretentious leaves, yet destitute of precious fruit. There was a boastful observance of the forms of
religion, while the spirit of true humility, penitence and faith--which alone
could render the service acceptable to God--was lacking. Instead of the graces
of the Spirit, there were manifested pride, formalism,
vainglory, selfishness, oppression. A
BACKSLIDING CHURCH closed their eyes to the signs of the times. God did
nor forsake them, or suffer his faithfulness to fail but they departed from him, and SEPARATED THEMSELVES from his love. As they REFUSED TO COMPLY WITH THE
CONDITIONS, his promises were NOT FULFILLED to them." E.G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 4, pp. 199-200 [The 1884 edition of The Great Controversy, 199,
200].
And that friends, is why a
literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9 begins at His Sanctuary, HIS CHURCH:
"Study the 9th chapter of Ezekiel. These words
will be literally fulfilled yet the time is passing, and the people are asleep.
They refuse to humble their souls and to be converted. Not a great while longer
will the Lord bear with the people who have such great
and important truths revealed to them, but who refuse to bring these truths
into their individual experience. The time is short. God is calling will YOU
hear? Will YOU receive His message? Will YOU be converted before it is too
late? Soon, very soon, every case will be decided for eternity. Letter 106, 1909, pp. 2, 3, 5, 7. (To
"The churches in Oakland and Berkeley, September 26, 1909.)" E. G. White Manuscript Releases Volume One, p. 260.
“The
time will soon come when the prophecy of Ezekiel 9 will be fulfilled; that
prophecy should be carefully studied, for it will be fulfilled to the very
letter.”— Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, p. 1303.
“The
time will soon come when the prophecy of Ezekiel 9 will be fulfilled; that
prophecy should be carefully studied, for it will be fulfilled to the very
letter.”— Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, p. 1303.
The Signs of the Times, February 12, 1880: “The desolation of Jerusalem stands as a
solemn warning before the eyes of modern Israel.”
“The
desolation of Jerusalem in the days of Jeremiah is a solemn warning to modern
Israel, that the counsels and admonitions given them through chosen
instrumentalities cannot be disreDTded with
impunity.” Prophets and Kings, 416.
The professing Seventh-day
Adventist church today should be Zion, True Jerusalem, the
church triumphant. It should not have fallen into lukewarm Laodiceanism,
only then to fall into cold, abominable apostasy, for which abominations we are
to sigh and cry as a condition for being sealed by Jesus, the Man in Linen.
The church that appears as about
to fall but does not, is further defined by Ellen White in The Great Controversy, page 616, as the church triumphant when at
the final death decree it is surrounded by Satan’s army and Jesus intervenes.
Ellen White compares that church with Jacob’s experience when Jacob's company,
unarmed and defenseless, seemed about to
fall helpless victims of violence and slaughter. That, my friend, is when the
church triumphant appears as about to fall, but does not! While the apostate
church militant, apostate Zion and Jerusalem, does fall in a literal Ezekiel 9
destruction after the order of A.D. 70. Notice:
“The people of God will then be plunged into those scenes of affliction
and distress described by the prophet as the time of Jacob's trouble. "Thus saith the Lord: We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and
not of peace. . . . All faces are turned into paleness. Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even
the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it." Jeremiah
30:5-7.
Jacob's night of anguish, when he wrestled in prayer for deliverance
from the hand of Esau (Genesis 32:24-30), represents the experience of God's
people in the time of trouble. Because of the
deception practiced to secure his father's blessing, intended for Esau, Jacob
had fled for his life, alarmed by his brother's deadly threats. After remaining for many years an exile, he had set out, at God's
command, to return with his wives and children, his flocks and herds, to his
native country. On reaching the borders of the land, he was filled with terror
by the tidings of Esau's approach at the head of a band of warriors, doubtless
bent upon revenge. Jacob's company,
unarmed and defenseless, seemed about to
fall helpless victims of violence and slaughter. And to the burden of
anxiety and fear was added the crushing weight of self-reproach, for it was his own sin that had brought this danger. His only hope was
in the mercy of God; his only defense must be prayer. Yet he leaves nothing
undone on his own part to atone for the wrong to his brother and to avert the
threatened danger. So should the followers of Christ, as they approach the time
of trouble, make every exertion to place themselves in a proper light before
the people, to disarm prejudice, and to avert the danger which threatens
liberty of conscience.
Having sent his family away, that they may not witness his distress,
Jacob remains alone to intercede with God. He
617
confesses his sin and gratefully acknowledges the mercy of God toward him while
with deep humiliation he pleads the covenant made with his fathers and the
promises to himself in the night vision at Bethel and in the land of his exile.
The crisis in his life has come; everything is at stake. In the darkness and
solitude he continues praying and humbling himself before God. Suddenly a hand
is laid upon his shoulder. He thinks that an enemy is seeking his life, and
with all the energy of despair he wrestles with his assailant. As the day
begins to break, the stranger puts forth his superhuman power; at his touch the
strong man seems paralyzed, and he falls, a helpless, weeping suppliant, upon
the neck of his mysterious antagonist. Jacob knows now that it is the Angel of
the covenant with whom he has been in conflict. Though
disabled and suffering the keenest pain, he does not relinquish his purpose.
Long has he endured perplexity, remorse, and trouble for his sin; now he must
have the assurance that it is pardoned. The divine visitant seems about to
depart; but Jacob clings to Him, pleading for a blessing. The Angel urges,
"Let Me go, for the day breaketh;" but the patriarch exclaims,
"I will not let Thee go, except Thou bless me." What confidence, what
firmness and perseverance, are here displayed! Had this been a boastful,
presumptuous claim, Jacob would have been instantly destroyed; but his was the
assurance of one who confesses his weakness and unworthiness, yet trusts the
mercy of a covenant-keeping God.” The
Great Controversy, p. 616.
So you can see that all DT’s quoted Ellen White statements, demand
another meaning in light of what happens to the apostate SDA new movement that
has removed God, 1SM 204-205. Let’s look at each statement.
The Lord is soon to come. There must be a refining, winnowing process in
every church, for there are among us wicked men who do not love the truth or
honor God.--RH March 19, 1895. {LDE 173.3}
Ron’s response: There is indeed going to be a refining, winnowing
process in every denominational church in the land. For in all churches
everywhere there are wicked men who do not love the truth or honor God and the
faithful will be called out of all fallen churches, including the SDA church
militant, after which Ezekiel 9 slaughter begins at its sanctuaries around the
world.
Begin at My
Sanctuary -- "Here
we see that the church--the Lord's sanctuary--was the first to feel the
stroke of the wrath of God. The ancient men [leaders], those to whom God had
given great light and who had stood as guardians of the spiritual interests of
the people, had betrayed their trust. They had taken the position that we need
not look for miracles and the marked manifestation of God's power as in former
days. Times have changed. These words strengthen their
unbelief, and they
say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do
evil. He is too merciful to visit His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and
safety" is the cry from men who will never again lift up their voice like
a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob
their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just
vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish
together." E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211.
The great issue so
near at hand [enforcement of Sunday laws] will weed out those whom God has not
appointed and He will have a pure, true, sanctified ministry prepared for the
latter rain.--3SM 385 (1886). {LDE 179.2}
Ron’s response: If the bad were weeded out of the apostate church,
Ezekiel 9 destruction would not begin at the
church--the Lord's sanctuary.
The shaking of God blows away multitudes like dry leaves.--4T 89 (1876).
{LDE 180.1}
Ron’s response: The chaff is blown away from and by true Zion, the
church triumphant, the church of the True Reformers, just as was the case with
the disciples and their True Jerusalem, True Zion home churches. Remember:
Ellen White said that sinners are shaken from Zion. Zion gives the shaking
message that blows away multitudes like dry leaves, while the apostate SDA
church militant goes along with Babylon’s Sunday law, to wit:
"The Lord has a controversy with His professed people in these last
days. In this controversy men in responsible positions will take a course
directly opposite to that pursued by Nehemiah.
They will not only ignore and despise the Sabbath themselves, but they
will try to keep it from others by burying it beneath the rubbish of custom and
tradition. In churches and in large
gatherings in the open air, ministers will urge upon the people the necessity
of keeping the first day of the week.
There are calamities on sea and land: and these calamities will
increase, one disaster following close upon another; and the little band of
conscientious Sabbath-keepers will be pointed out as the ones who are bringing
the wrath of God upon the world by their disreDTd of
Sunday." E.G. White, Review and Herald, March 18, 1884.
Chaff like a cloud will be borne away on the wind, even from places where we
see only floors of rich wheat.--5T 81 (1882). {LDE 180.2}
The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while
the sinners in Zion will be sifted out--the
chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but
nevertheless it must take place.--2SM 380 (1886). {LDE 180.5}
Ron’s response: Chaff will be blown out of Zion by members of Zion just
as the disciples separated the wheat from the chaff in the apostate Temple of
Israel. I have shown from all the weight of evidence just which church appears
as about to fall, but does not. That would be the true SDA church triumphant
which is surrounded by the enemy at the final death decree but is delivered by
the coming of Jesus.
As the storm approaches, a large class who have
professed faith in the third angel's message, but have
not been sanctified through obedience to the truth, abandon their position and
join the ranks of the opposition.--GC 608 (1911). {LDE
180.6}
Ron’s response: We have seen proof that the SDA new movement will
abandon their position and instruct their members to keep Sunday. That apostate
new movement has been instructing Russian parents to send their children to
school on Sabbath for many decades now. Alf Lohne, a high place General
Conference official in his day, tells all about this in his book on Russia. So
we can no longer refer to that church as God’s commandment-KEEPING people.
If Ezekiel 9 is literal, as Ellen White prophesied, then its end-time
fulfillment BEGINNING AT HIS SANCTUARY, HIS CHURCH, must involve a real actual
church, just as it did in the historic fulfillment in the destruction of the
Jewish Temple in A.D. 70, after which the Romans proceeded to destroy
Jerusalem.
The words of Jesus to His disciples prophesying the destruction of the
Temple were twofold (GC, p. 25). They prophesied the destruction of the Temple
and the destruction of Jerusalem city proper symbolizing the destruction of the
world at the end-time, but it all BEGAN AT HIS SANCTUARY, HIS CHURCH, THE
TEMPLE. And so it must be in any future LITERAL FULFILLMENT.
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Ezekiel Chapter 10 is most instructive
in the fact that the bad are removed by and from the church triumphant:
Ezekiel 20
1And
it came to pass in the seventh year, in the fifth month, the tenth day of the
month, that certain of the elders of Israel came to enquire of the LORD, and sat
before me.
2Then
came the word of the LORD unto me, saying,
3Son
of man, speak unto the elders of Israel, and say unto them, Thus
saith the Lord GOD; Are ye come to enquire of me? As I live, saith the Lord
GOD, I will not be enquired of by you.
4Wilt
thou judge them, son of man, wilt thou judge them? cause
them to know the abominations of their fathers:
5And
say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when I chose Israel, and
lifted up mine hand unto the seed of the house of Jacob, and made myself known
unto them in the land of Egypt, when I lifted up mine hand unto them, saying, I
am the LORD your God;
6In
the day that I lifted up mine hand unto them, to bring them forth of the land
of Egypt into a land that I had espied for them, flowing with milk and honey,
which is the glory of all lands:
7Then
said I unto them, Cast ye away every man the abominations of his eyes, and
defile not yourselves with the idols of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
8But
they rebelled against me, and would not hearken unto me: they did not every man
cast away the abominations of their eyes, neither did they forsake the idols of
Egypt: then I said, I will pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger
against them in the midst of the land of Egypt.
9But
I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted before the
heathen, among whom they were, in whose sight I made myself known unto them, in
bringing them forth out of the land of Egypt.
10Wherefore
I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt, and brought them into the
wilderness.
11And
I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he
shall even live in them.
12Moreover
also I gave them my sabbaths,
to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that
sanctify them.
13But
the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in
my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even
live in them; and my sabbaths
they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the
wilderness, to consume them.
14But
I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted before the
heathen, in whose sight I brought them out.
15Yet
also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I would not bring
them into the land which I had given them, flowing with milk and honey, which
is the glory of all lands;
16Because
they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went
after their idols.
17Nevertheless
mine eye spared them from destroying them, neither did
I make an end of them in the wilderness.
18But
I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of
your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their
idols:
19I
am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;
20And
hallow my sabbaths; and they
shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your
God.
21Notwithstanding
the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept
my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they
polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out
my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness.
22Nevertheless
I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be
polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I brought them forth.
23I
lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them
among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries;
24Because
they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had
polluted my sabbaths, and
their eyes were after their fathers' idols.
25Wherefore I gave them
also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;
26And
I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the
fire all that openeth the womb,
that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I
am the LORD.
27Therefore,
son of man, speak unto the house of Israel, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Yet in this your fathers have
blasphemed me, in that they have committed a trespass against me.
28For
when I had brought them into the land, for the which I lifted up mine hand to
give it to them, then they saw every high hill, and all the thick trees, and
they offered there their sacrifices, and there they presented the provocation of
their offering: there also they made their sweet savour, and poured out there
their drink offerings.
29Then
I said unto them, What is the high place whereunto ye
go? And the name whereof is called Bamah unto this
day.
30Wherefore
say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Are
ye polluted after the manner of your fathers? and
commit ye whoredom after their abominations?
31For
when ye offer your gifts, when ye make your sons to pass through the fire, ye
pollute yourselves with all your idols, even unto this day: and shall I be
enquired of by you, O house of Israel? As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will
not be enquired of by you.
32And
that which cometh into your mind shall not be at all, that ye say, We will be as the heathen, as the families of the countries,
to serve wood and stone.
33As
I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out
arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
34And
I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries
wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and
with fury poured out.
35And
I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with
you face to face.
36Like
as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will
I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.
37And
I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of
the covenant:
38And I will purge out from among you the
rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of
the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of
Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Ron’s Commentary: This is exactly
what happened when Jesus came and the disciples formed home churches. The
disciples were first prepared by John the Baptist out in the wilderness. That
was God CALLING and preparing His bride (Desire
of Ages, 179). Then when Jesus came, He “gathered out” those (the
disciples) who would give the gospel to the world. They in turn gathered out
the faithful Christians, and thus the rebels were purged from the church
triumphant—the bride of Christ—the disciples. So it will be and is now taking
place with the bride of Jesus Christ—the true SDA church triumphant. This is
just as Ellen White said: Sinners will be shaken out of Zion, not the once
church militant that is now the Synagogue of Satan. Why is the once church
militant no longer even a church? Because it “removed God,” (1SM 205), and only
the presence of Christ can constitute a church, The Upward Look, 315.
39As
for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye,
serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if
ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your
gifts, and with your idols.
40For
in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord
GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me:
there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the
firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.
41I
will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people,
and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will
be sanctified in you before the heathen.
42And
ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall bring you into the land of
Israel, into the country for the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to your
fathers.
43And
there shall ye remember your ways, and all your doings, wherein ye have been
defiled; and ye shall lothe yourselves in your own
sight for all your evils that ye have committed.
44And
ye shall know that I am the LORD when I have wrought
with you for my name's sake, not according to your wicked ways, nor according
to your corrupt doings, O ye house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
45Moreover
the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
46Son
of man, set thy face toward the south, and drop thy word toward the south, and
prophesy against the forest of the south field;
47And
say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the LORD; Thus
saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour
every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the flaming flame shall not be
quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burned therein.
48And
all flesh shall see that I the LORD have kindled it:
it shall not be quenched.
49Then
said I, Ah Lord GOD! they say of me, Doth he not speak
parables?
—rwb