Willie White Versus Isaiah 4:1-4 and 37:31, 32--The Lida Scott Statement

Proof Absolute (From the Scriptures) of Another Coming Out—Part II

"The Bible for Our Time.--Never are we absent from the mind of God. God is our joy and our salvation. Each of the ancient prophets spoke less for their own time than for ours, so that their prophesying is in force for us. 'Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come' (1 Cor. 10:11). 'Not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven which things the angels desire to look into' (1 Peter 1:12).'" E.G. White, Selected Messages, Bk. 3, p. 338.

                                              

     Prophets Wrote for Their Own and Our Day.—“The last books of the Old Testament show us workers taken from the laborers in the field. Others were men of high ability and extensive learning, but the Lord gave them visions and messages. These men of the Old Testament spoke of things transpiring in their day, and Daniel, Isaiah, and Ezekiel not only spoke of things that concerned them as present truth, but their sights reached down to the future, and to what should occur in these last days.”--Letter 132, 1898. {3SM 419.5, 420}

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Dear Reader,

In part one, we firmly established the fact according to God’s Word, that there is a final coming out of all formally organized churches. I will speak to that issue a bit more in this document and then we will move to the next kin issue: When should that final coming out take place? But first, a few after thoughts on the first issue of whether or not there is a final coming out. I will begin by restating the Willie White—Lida Scott statement:

"I TOLD HER [MRS. LIDA SCOTT] HOW MOTHER REGARDED THE EXPERIENCE OF THE REMNANT CHURCH, AND OF HER POSITIVE TEACHING THAT GOD WOULD NOT PERMIT THIS DENOMINATION TO SO FULLY APOSTATIZE THAT THERE WOULD BE THE COMING OUT OF ANOTHER CHURCH."--W. C. White to E. E. Andross, May 23, 1915, White Estate Correspondence File. {LDE 56.4}

In light of Willie White’s alleged statement attributed to his mother that God would not permit the SDA denomination to so fully apostatize that there would be the coming out of another church, consider these words in light of the following statement which we are sure was spoken by Ellen White:

"The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A NEW ORGANIZATION would be established. Books of a NEW ORDER would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the NEW MOVEMENT. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but GOD BEING REMOVED, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.

 

Who has authority to begin such a [NEW] movement? We have our Bibles, we have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth? E.G. White, Selected Messages, Vol. 1, 204, 205.

I ask you friend, if all of the following apostasies and heresies have been fulfilled, and they have, has “another church” been formed “among” (within) the professing Seventh-day Adventist church? Could anyone do much more to form another church than the leaders have done by:

·       Allowing Satan, the enemy of souls, to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization to the point that this has actually been fulfilled.

·       Allowing the principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, to be discarded.

·       Allowing the SDA religion to be changed.

·       Allowing the fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years to be accounted as error.

·       Allowing A NEW ORGANIZATION to be established.

·       Allowing books of a NEW ORDER to be written.

·       Allowing a system of [man’s] intellectual philosophy would be introduced.

·       Allowing the founders of this system to go into the cities, and do a wonderful work.

·       Allowing the Sabbath of course, to be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it.

·       Allowing nothing to stand in the way of the NEW MOVEMENT.

·       Allowing the leaders to teach that virtue is better than vice, but GOD BEING REMOVED, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless.

·       Allowing their foundation to be built on the sand, so that storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.

·       Allowing the enemy of souls, Satan, to give leaders the authority to begin such a [NEW] movement?

Does that sound like ANOTHER CHURCH to you? Is it even a church when “God being removed,” they place their dependence on human power, which without God is worthless? Ellen White says that only the presence of God can constitute a church:

"God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, (or the super mega church), neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. 'Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them.' Where Christ is even among the humble few, THIS IS CHRIST'S CHURCH, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhbiteth eternity can alone constitute a church." The Upward Look, p. 315.

 

What it all amounts to is that “another church,” an entirely new movement, new organization, has formed “among” (within). And we were never to join any new movement. So SDA’s are joined to “another church,” and don’t even know it! Ellen White warned that the church would change leaders and know it not:

 

Change Leaders and Know it Not:

 

Change Leaders: "There is manifested on the part of men in responsible positions an unwillingness to confess where they have been in the wrong and their neglect is working disaster, not only to themselves, but to the churches....You will be left to make mistakes of a similar character, you will continue to lack wisdom, and will can sin righteousness and righteousness sin. The multitude of deceptions that will prevail in these last days will encircle you, and you will change leaders, and not know that you have done so." E.G. White, Review and Herald, Vol. 2, 448.

 

Change Leaders: "Men in positions of responsibility are in danger of changing leaders. This I know, for it has been plainly revealed to me." E.G. White, Series B, #2, p. 48.

 

Change Leaders: "Men who might have stood in clear light, doing valiant service as ministers of the gospel and medical missionaries, have been accepting false theories and sophistries which originated with the father of lies, and yet they do not realize that they have changed." E.G. White, Special Testimonies, Series B, #7, p. 13-16, November 20, 1905.

 

Change Leaders: "Satan will set up his hellish banner right in your homes, and you will be so blinded to the real nature of his deceptions that you reverence it as the banner of Christ." E.G. White, The 1888 Materials, p. 505.

 

Change Leaders: "They will not recognize him [Satan] as their enemy, that old serpent, but they will consider him a FRIEND, one who is doing a good work." Testimonies, vol. 5, p. 294.

 

Change Leaders: Satan has laid his plans to undermine our faith in the history of the cause and work of God. I am deeply in earnest as I write this. Satan is working with men in prominent positions to sweep away the foundation of our faith. Shall we allow this to be done, brethren?" E.G. White, Review and Herald, Nov. 19, 1903.

 

Change Leaders if mistakes are not admitted and Changed: "If when the Lord reveals your errors you do not repent or make confession, his providence will bring you over the ground again and again. You will be left to make mistakes of a similar character, you will continue to lack wisdom, and will call sin righteousness, and righteousness sin. The multitude of deceptions that will prevail in these last days will encircle you, and you will CHANGE LEADERS, AND NOT KNOW THAT YOU HAVE DONE SO." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 2, p. 449.

 

Satan has Com In

 

PH086 - Special Testimony to Battle Creek Church (1898)

“The Lord Jesus demands that every soul make a reality of truth. Show that you believe that you are not half with Christ and half with the world. Of all such Christ says, "I would thou wert cold or hot. So then, because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth." He who appreciates the love of Christ, will be an earnest worker with Christ to bring other souls as sheaves to the Master. Thorough work is always done by all who are connected with Christ. They bear fruit to his glory. But indolence and carelessness and frivolity separate the soul from Christ, and Satan comes in to work his will with the poor worldly subject, We have a great truth, but through careless indifference the truth has lost its force upon us. Satan has come in with his specious temptations, and has led the professed followers of Christ away from their Leader, classing them with the foolish virgins.” {PH086 23.2}

Change Leaders: "Satan has COME IN with his specious temptations, and has led the professed followers of Christ away from the [PILOT] Leader (Christ), classing them with the foolish virgins." Testimonies to Ministers, p. 130.

 

Change Leaders: "Refusing to follow in the path of obedience, they transferred their allegiance to Satan. The enemy rejoiced in his success in effacing the divine image from the minds of the people that God had chosen as His representatives. Through [ECUMENICAL] intermarriage with idolaters and CONSTANT ASSOCIATION WITH THEM [Isa. 8:9-20], Satan brought about that for which he had long been working,--a national apostasy." Fundamentals to Christian Education, p. 449.

 

Change Leaders: "The recreant priests added licentiousness to the dark catalogue of their crimes yet they still polluted by their presence the tabernacle of the Lord, and, laden with sin, dared to come into the presence of a holy God. As the men of Israel witnessed the corrupt course of the priests, they thought it safer for their families not to come up to the appointed place of worship. Many went from Shiloh with their peace disturbed, their indignation aroused, until they at last determined to offer their sacrifices themselves, concluding that this would be fully as acceptable to God, as to sanction in any manner the abominations practiced in the Sanctuary." E.G. White, The Signs of the Times, vol. 1, p. 264, col. 3, December 1, 1881.

 

Change Ships and Captains

 

Which Ship?

 

Defective Ship: We can know that if a ship has false teaching it will not survive the rigors of the ocean of strife and turmoil: "You have had too great confidence in the ability of these men. A ship may be sound in nearly every respect but if there is one defect,--a bit of timber worm-eaten,--the lives of all on board are imperiled." E.G. White, Testimonies, vol. 4, 322.

 

Ship Drifting at Sea Without Chart or Compass: "The facts concerning the real condition of the professed people of God, speak more loudly than their profession, and make it evident that some power has cut the cable that anchored them to the Eternal Rock, and that they are drifting away to sea, without chart or compass." E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 2, p. 128, (Review and Herald, Vol. 2, p. 231). (Also see Fundamentals of Christian Education, p. 348).

 

"The people to whom God has entrusted eternal interests, the depositaries of truth pregnant with eternal results, the keepers of light that is to illuminate the whole world, have lost their bearings." Testimonies to Ministers, p. 397.

 

"Every ship sailing the sea of life needs to have the divine Pilot on board but when storms arise, when tempests threaten, many persons push their Pilot overboard, and commit their bark into the hand of finite man, or try to steer it themselves. Then disaster and wreckage generally follow, and the Pilot is blamed for running them into such dangerous waters." E.G. White, Fundamentals of Christian Education, p. 348.

 

Is the Pilot on board the SDA New Movement, New Organization Ship described in Selected Messages, vol. 1, 204-5? Page 205 says He [God] has been removed!

 

Noble Ship #1: "I lately read of a NOBLE SHIP that was plowing its way across the sea, when at midnight, with a terrific crash, it struck upon a rock the passengers were awakened only to see with horror their hopeless condition, and with the ship they sank to rise no more. The MAN AT THE HELM [VERSUS CHRIST] had mistaken the beacon light, and hundreds of souls were at a moment's warning launched into eternity." E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 2, 128.

 

Noble Ship #2: "There is no need to doubt, to be fearful that the work will not succeed. God is at the head of the work, and He will set everything in order. If maters need adjusting at the head of the work, God will attend to that, and work to right every wrong. Let us have faith that God is going to carry the noble ship which bears the people of God safely into port." E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 2, 390.

 

Immediately preceding the above statement is the admonition:

 

"We cannot now step off the foundation that God has established. We cannot now enter into any new organization for this would mean apostasy from the truth.--Manuscript 1290, 1905. Selected Messages, vol. 2, 390.

 

In light of all the statements involving a ship, we must interpret them all so that none contradict. The best way to achieve this goal is to look for qualifying words. In the above statement the qualifying words are NOBLE SHIP and THE PEOPLE OF GOD. Who are the people of God? Those who keep His commandments and heed the Laodicean message.

 

There are many examples to prove that the Selected Messages, Bk. 1, 204-205 statement (above) has been fulfilled to the letter, beginning in 1930 with the Trinity Doctrine being smuggled in by Leroy Froom; the world’s Accreditation Standards being adopted by the church for its educational institutions, whereby they must teach the curriculum of the world, thus marrying the youth to the world. Then there was the Evangelical Conferences of the latter 1950’s and the consequential joining of Babylon’s Associations, Counsels, Councils, Girdings and Confederacies, which is strictly forbidden by the Word in Isaiah 8:9-12.  Then came the Celebration Movement with it roots in Pentecostalism and Vatican II.

 

If you have a particle of a doubt as to the complete fulfillment of all the specifications of 1SM, 204-5, obtain Dr.’s Colin and Russell Standish’s book entitled Half a Century of Apostasy, The New Theology’s Grim Harvest, 1956-2006. Just email: remnantherald@optusnet.com.au

 

Or phone 03 5963 7000

 

But it is interesting and eternally important that even just ONE of the heresies adopted by the SDA new movement sweeps away the entire Christian economy, and that is the Trinity Doctrine, Rome’s Central doctrine.

 

That one doctrine changes the professing Seventh-day Adventist church into “another church,” the Synagogue of Satan, and sweeps away the entire Christian economy by doing away with the Sanctuary and Atonement messages. Those messages are basic to all Christianity.

 

Rome admits that this doctrine has no Scriptural basis.

 

Catholics on Trinity Doctrine -- "The church studied this mystery with great care and, after four centuries of clarification, decided to state the doctrine in this way: In the  of the Godhead there are three Persons,--the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit..." (Handbook for Today's Catholic, page 11).

 

 "Our opponents [Protestants] sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in Scripture (ignoring that it is only on the authority of the Church we recognize certain Gospels and not others as true). But the Protestant churches have themselves accepted such dogmas as the Trinity for which there is no such precise authority in the Gospels..." (Life Magazine, October 30, 1950, p. 51). 

 

The dispute is not whether or not there are three persons to the Godhead, because there are three. The real dispute for anyone who believes Ellen G. White, is how and when the third person to the Godhead accrued to that position.

 

How the Trinity Doctrine Sweeps Away the Entire Christian Economy

 

"The spiritualistic theories regarding the personality of God [the Godhead], followed to their logical conclusion, sweep away the whole Christian economy. They estimate as nothing the light that Christ came from heaven to give John to give to His people. They teach that the scenes just before us are not of sufficient importance to be given special attention. They make of no effect the truth of heavenly origin, and rob the people of God of their past experience, giving them instead a false science." E.G. White, 1SM, p. 204.

 

I am going to prove to you that the Trinity Doctrine of Rome and the SDA version of that doctrine are spiritualistic theories of man that directly contradict the inspiration gift of the Holy Spirit to the Adventist church, via one Ellen G. White.

 

Sanctuary Gone Atonement Gone -- "In a representation which passed before me, I saw a certain work being done by medical missionary workers. Our ministering brethren were looking on, watching what was being done, but they did not seem to understand. The foundation of our faith, which was established by so much prayer, such earnest searching of the Scriptures, was being taken down, pillar by pillar. Our faith was to have nothing to rest upon--the sanctuary was gone, the atonement was gone." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 152.

 

Ellen White said that the Holy Spirit is the soul of the life of Christ. The issue is: How is the Holy Spirit a separate and distinct person and at the same time the soul of the life of Christ? The answer involves the Incarnation sacrifice of the Son of God in the heavenly Sanctuary, which made the Atonement possible.

 

"Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin.

In the gift of the Spirit, Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could bestow....

The Spirit was given as a regenerating agency, and without this the [cross] sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....

It is by the Spirit that the heart is made pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given his Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress his own character upon the church." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42.

 

"Cumbered with humanity Christ could not be in every place personally. Therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them to go to His Father and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself, divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit" E.G. White, (Manuscript Releases Volume 14 (No’s 1081-1135) MR No.1084.

 

How and When the Holy Spirit Became the Holy Ghost—The Third Person of the Godhead

 

It was in the Sanctuary of Heaven that the Incarnation sacrifice first began. It was there that the Son of God divested Himself of His Divine only state of being, to forever take humanity as part of His nature. That divestation of His DIVINE ONLY life and soul, as a gift to man for overcoming and regeneration back into the image of God, became the Holy Ghost when that life of His soul was divested from His humanity, and thus became the third person of the Godhead.

 

Before the divestation of the Son’s Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit always existed and was shared by Father and Son as the ONE eternal Spirit. That ONE SPIRIT is what makes them one God. The Bible says there is one eternal spirit:

 

Hbr 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 

 

The eternal Spirit means ONE eternal Spirit—One God.

 

Eternal Sacrifice of His Divine (ONLY) Soul

 

"The apostle would call our attention from ourselves to the Author of our salvation. He presents before us His two natures, divine and human. . . . He voluntarily assumed human nature. It was His own act, and by His own consent. He clothed His divinity with humanity. He was all the while as God, but He did not appear as God. He veiled the demonstrations of Deity which had commanded the homage, and called forth the admiration of the universe of God. He was God while upon earth, but He divested Himself of the form of God, and in its stead took the form and fashion of a man. He walked the earth as a man. For our sakes He became poor, that we through His poverty might be made rich. He laid aside His glory and His majesty. He was God, but the glories of the form of God He for awhile relinquished. . . . He bore the sins of the world, and endured the penalty which rolled like a mountain upon His divine soul. He yielded up His life a sacrifice, that man should not eternally die. He died, not through being compelled to die, but by His own free will." E.G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7a, p. 446.

 

The mystery part that no man can now explain is how Jesus is fully God and fully man since He divested Himself of the soul of His life—His Holy Spirit, and bequeathed it to man as a regenerating agency.

 

"...When God's people take the position that they are the temple of the Holy Ghost, Christ himself abiding within, they will clearly reveal Him in spirit, words and actions that there will be unmistakable distinction between them and Satan's followers" Notebook Leaflets, p. 79.

 

"The impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ" Desire of Ages, p. 805.

 

So what is the problem with the Trinity Doctrine? That doctrine denies the Sanctuary Incarnation sacrifice whereby the Son of God divested Himself of His Divine (ONLY) Nature, to be combined with humanity forever. How does the trinity doctrine deny this sacrifice made in the Heavenly Sanctuary? The Trinity Doctrine denies that sacrifice by teaching that the Holy Spirit was always a separate and distinct person from eternity. Thus, there was no Sanctuary sacrifice, thus, no atonement, for the atonement for sin on the cross, had to be predicated by the Sanctuary divestation of the Son’s Holy Spirit soul of His life, which was to be cumbered by His humanity. If there was no such Sanctuary sacrificial divestation, then there could have been no atonement on the cross. That is what Ellen White meant when she said:

 

The Spirit was given as a regenerating agency, and without this [heavenly sacrifice], the [cross] sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....” Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42.

Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42. The full statement is earlier in this document near the beginning.

 

Why would the cross sacrifice have been of no avail without the Heavenly Sanctuary divestation sacrifice of His Holy Spirit Divine Nature for us? Because without that “highest good, crowing sacrifice” man would have no power to overcome sin and the cross would only pardon a continuum of on-going sin eternally.

 

So the Trinity Doctrine sweeps away the entire Christian economy in one feld swoop. Is that “another church?” Is that the Synagogue of Satan?

 

Did Ellen White Say That the SDA Church Would Become the Synagogue of Satan?

 

Jesus called the apostate Jewish church the Synagogue of Satan. Ellen White said that there would be a COUNTERPART to the Jews and it would take three conditions for any church to be a counterpart to the Jews:

 

·       Being a chosen people.

·       Claiming to keep the commandments of God while not keeping them.

·       Claiming to be the remnant people of God.

 

Only professing, new movement Seventh-day Adventists meet all three of those conditions. Here are Ellen White’s counterpart statements:

 

COUNTERPART: "The Lord commanded one of his ancient servants, 'Pray not thou for this people [Jer. 7:16 and 11:14], neither lift up cry nor prayer for them neither make intercession to me for I will not hear thee.' The prophet thus describes the sins which had called forth this fearful denunciation: 'The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means and my people love to have it so and what will ye do in the end thereof?' 'From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, every one is given to covetousness and from the prophet even unto the priest, every one dealeth falsely. They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace, when there is no peace.' The apostles declare that this state of things will find its COUNTERPART in the last days. Many have a form of godliness, but in their daily life deny the power thereof. They have ceased to be convicted of their sins or alarmed at their state. They say in their hearts, 'The church is flourishing. Peace and spiritual prosperity are within her borders.' The words of the prophet may well apply to these self-deceivers, 'They have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them." E. G. White, Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald,  11-07-82.

 

"Shall the Lord be compelled to say, `Pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to Me: for I will not hear thee' [Jeremiah 7:16]? `Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain....Wilt thou not from this time cry unto Me, My Father, thou art the guide of my youth' [Jeremiah 3:3-4]?...

We are to be judged by the light that has been given us,(159) and we can find no excuse by which to extenuate our course." Review and Herald, Vol. 3, p 69-70 (August 1, 1893). (Brackets by Ellen White)

 

COUNTERPART: "In the time of the Saviour, the Jews had so covered over the precious jewels of truth with the rubbish of tradition and fable, that it was impossible to distinguish the true from the false. The Saviour came to clear away the rubbish of superstition and long-cherished errors, and to set the jewels of God's word in the framework of truth. What would the Saviour do if he should come to us now as he did to the Jews? He would have to do a similar work in clearing away the rubbish of tradition and ceremony. The Jews were greatly disturbed when he did this work [As are SDAs today!]. They had lost sight of the original truth of God, but Christ brought it again to view. It is our work to free the precious truths of God from superstition and error." E.G. WhiteReview and Herald, Vol. 2, 308. 


“The Lord commanded one of his ancient servants, "Pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them; neither make intercession to me; for I will not hear thee." The prophet thus describes the sins which had called forth this fearful denunciation: "The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so; and what will ye do in the end thereof?" "From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest, every one dealeth falsely. They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace, when there is no peace." {RH, November 7, 1882 par. 8}

     “The apostles declare that this state of things will find its counterpart in the last days. Many have a form of godliness, but in their daily life deny the power thereof. They have ceased to be convicted of their sins or alarmed at their state. They say in their hearts, "The church is flourishing. Peace and spiritual prosperity are within her borders." The words of the prophet may well apply to these self-deceivers, "They have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them." {RH, November 7, 1882 par. 9}

Because professing Seventh-day Adventists have committed the same harlotry as the ancient Jews, God’s first chosen people, there is another coming out from them just as there was a coming out from the apostate Jewish church.

 

What is the Type for Another Coming out From Apostate, Heretical Adventism?

 

God, in His loving mercy, has actually provided the example for another coming out in the history of the Jews. In Jeremiah 11:9-15, He enunciates some of the acts that constitute unpardonable sin. We should be able to reason together that if God says not to even pray for a people that they have committed unpardonable sin at least on a generational level.

 

Isaiah 8:9-12, is another place where God gives no option to a violation to those verses except being broken in pieces, so stated three times to connote the seriousness of violating those instructions AFTER knowing the truth and coming out of Babylon. Those are two examples of unpardonable sin as given in the Word of God.

 

Ellen White also gives an example of unpardonable sin, to wit:

 

"While praying at the family altar, the Holy Ghost fell on me, and I seemed to be rising higher and higher, far above the dark world. I turned to look for the Advent people in the world, but could not find them--when a voice said to me, 'Look again, and look a little higher.' At this I raised my eyes and saw a straight and narrow path cast up high above the world. On this path the Advent people were traveling to the City, which was at the farther end of the path. They had a bright light set up behind them at the first end of the path, which an angel told me was the Midnight Cry. This light shone all along the path, and gave light for their feet so they might not stumble. And if they kept their eyes fixed on Jesus, who was just before them, leading them to the City, they were safe. But soon some grew weary, and they said the City was a great way of, and they expected to have entered it before. Then Jesus would encourage them by raising his glorious right arm, and from his arm came a glorious light which waved over the Advent band, and they shouted Hallelujah! Others rashly denied the light behind them, and said that it was not God that had led them out so far. The light behind them went out leaving their feet in perfect darkness, and they stumbled and got their eyes off the mark and lost sight of Jesus, and fell off the path down in the dark and wicked world below. It was just as impossible for them to get on the path again and go to the City, as all the wicked world which God had rejected. They fell all the way along the path one after another, until we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus' coming....

By this time the 144,000 were all sealed and perfectly united. On their foreheads was written, God, New Jerusalem, and a glorious Star containing Jesus' new name." E.G. White, Word to the Little Flock, p. 14.

 

Can we agree that if it becomes impossible to get on the path to heaven again after violating the Midnight Cry to come out of Babylon and stay out by way of association, counsel, council, girding and confederacy, Isaiah 8:9-12, then one thereby commits unpardonable sin. Chapter XXIV. - The Second Angel's Message.

 

     “The churches would not receive the light of the first angel's message, and as they rejected the light from heaven they fell from the favor of God. They trusted in their own strength, and placed themselves by their opposition to the first message where they could not see the light of the second angel's message. But the beloved of God, who were oppressed, answered to the message, Babylon is fallen, and left the fallen churches.” {1SG 140.1}

 

     “Near the close of the second angel's message, I saw a great light from heaven shining upon the people of God. The rays of this light seemed bright as the sun. And I heard the voices of angels crying, Behold the Bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him!”{1SG 140.2}

 

     The midnight cry was given to give power to the second angel's message. Angels were sent from heaven to wake up the discouraged saints, and prepare them for the great work before them. The most talented men were not the first to receive this message. Angels were sent to the humble, devoted ones, and constrained them to raise the cry, Behold the Bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him. Those entrusted with the cry made haste, and in the power of the Holy Spirit spread the cry, and aroused their discouraged brethren. This cry did not stand in the wisdom and learning of men, but in the power of God, and his saints who heard the cry could not resist it. The most spiritual received this message first, and those who had formerly led in the work were the last to receive and help swell the cry, Behold the Bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him. {1SG 140.3}

 

Chapter XXIV. - The Second Angel's Message.

 

     “The churches would not receive the light of the first angel's message, and as they rejected the light from heaven they fell from the favor of God. They trusted in their own strength, and placed themselves by their opposition to the first message where they could not see the light of the second angel's message. But the beloved of God, who were oppressed, answered to the message, Babylon is fallen, and left the fallen churches.” {1SG 140.1}

 

     “Near the close of the second angel's message, I saw a great light from heaven shining upon the people of God. The rays of this light seemed bright as the sun. And I heard the voices of angels crying, Behold the Bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him!”{1SG 140.2}

   

Also, Ellen White said that all who heard and understood the message in 1844, but who rejected it, experienced a shut door. She never relinquished that aspect of the shut door. So if folk then could close their probation in 8-12 weeks in 1844, what about SDA’s now?!

 

"I was shown in vision, and I still believe, that there was a shut door in 1844. All who saw the light of the first and second angels' messages and rejected that light were left in darkness. And those who accepted it and received the Holy Spirit which attended the proclamation of the message from heaven, and who afterward renounced their faith and pronounced their experience a delusion, thereby rejected the Spirit of God, and it no longer pleaded with them." {1BIO 260.8}

 

Now tell me friend, how can SDA’s now violate the second angel’s message and the Midnight Cry with impunity if those who did it in 1844, after hearing the truth, rejected the Spirit of God, and it no longer pleaded with them?

 

"If those who have been in the church for weeks and months have not learned the straightness of the way, and what it is to be Christians, and can not hear all the straight truths of the word of God, it were better that they were cut off from Israel.  It is too late in the day to feed with milk.  If souls, a month or two old in the truth, who are about to enter the time of trouble such as never was, can not hear all the straight truth, or endure the strong meat of the straightness of the way, how will they stand in the day of battle?  Truths that we have been years learning must be learned in a few months by those who now embrace the Third Angel's Message....There is no need of milk after souls are convinced of the truth.  As soon as the conviction of truth is yielded to and the heart willing, the truth should have its effect, the truth will work like leaven, and purify and purge away the passions of the natural heart.  It is a disgrace for those who have been in the truth for years to talk of feeding souls who have been months in the truth, upon milk.  It shows they know little of the leadings of the Spirit of the Lord, and realize not the time we are living in.  Those who embrace the truth now will have to step fast.  There will have to be a breaking up of heart before the Lord, a rending of heart, and not the garment."  E.G. White, Manuscript Releases, vol. 1, p 33-34 (Manuscript 1, February 12, 1854).

 

Ellen White reapplies Matthew 22:1-10 to our day in Sermons and Talks, Vol. 1, pp. 4-9. That means that we are to follow the pattern of when the faithful Jews came out from apostate Jerusalem. Jesus gathered out the disciples first, Desire of Ages, 232, as one of the first acts of His ministry in A.D. 27. In A.D. 34, the probation for the Jews was over at the stoning of Stephen which was commensurate with the ending of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9. At that point, which was 36 years before the destruction of Jerusalem, and 33 years before all Christian fled to the mountains of Pella, (SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 5, pp. 74, 75), the disciples were gathering folk out of the apostate Jewish church and forming home churches.

 

Why is this history important? Because it provides a prefigure for what we are to do now, if Matthew 22:1-10 applies to our time, as Ellen White says it does.

 

The principles involved are as follows:

 

1.    When probation was over for the Jewish church, the disciples of Christ began gathering out the faithful. That was A.D. 34, or 36 years before Ezekiel 9 was literally fulfilled.

2.    Ellen White says that Ezekiel 9 will again be literally fulfilled and that Matthew 22:1-10 applies to our time. Matthew 22:7 is the same event as Ezekiel 9:6.

3.    On page 25 of The Great Controversy, Ellen White says that the words Jesus spoke to His disciples in warning about the fate of the apostate Jews was twofold. First, it foreshadowed the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. Secondly, it prefigured the terrors of the last great day at the end of time. So what happened and when it happened was a prefigure (type) for us to follow, especially since Ezekiel 9:6 and Matthew 22:7 is literally fulfilled again BEGINNING AT HIS SANCTUARY, the House of Jacob, SDA’s, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211.

4.    In Testimonies, Vol. 5, pp. 451 and 464,  Ellen White parallels the ascension of the Roman soldiers on Jewish soil in A.D. 66, which they considered the abomination of desolation, with the National Sunday Law. This is when the Jews were to flee to the mountains AND NOT FROM THE CHURCH, for they had been leaving the apostate church since A.D. 27 (the disciples, DA 232) and the laity from A.D. 34 and on.

5.    Some SDA’s agree with another coming out, but believe it is to be at the Sunday Law because of Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 81. But that is the final time at which the dross (tares, chaff) is removed from all churches—the last opportunity to respond to the Midnight Cry if you will. That has nothing to do with separation from apostasy as the prefigure type of the Jews proves. They were leaving the apostate church and forming home churches from A.D. 34, the close of their probation, until A.D. 66, when the abomination of desolation (parallel to the Sunday Law) arrived on Jewish soil. That was 32 years before what Ellen White parallels with the Sunday law in 5T 451, 464. So the Sunday law is only the last time to leave apostasy and is not the only sign to leave. The time to begin to leave is when the probation of a people is over, and SDA probation ended when they violated the Midnight Cry and the second angel’s message by joining Babylon’s Ministerial Associations, Counsels, Councils, Girdings and Confederacies the world over in the early 1960’s. It then became IMPOSSIBLE to get back on the pathway to heaven. The new movement was formed at that time.

6.    Preparations for the new movement began in 1930, when Leroy Froom smuggled in the Trinity Doctrine, but it was not voted on until 1980. That finished the job of sweeping away the entire Christian economy as far as SDA’s are concerned—or I should say as far as new movement SDA’s are concerned.

7.    What virtue has a new movement “church” that has “removed God,” (1SM 205) and adopted heresies (The Trinity Doctrine) that sweeps away the entire Christian economy?

8.    And what is far more serious is the fact that those who remain members of such “another church” after knowing this truth of its apostasy and heresies, are then corporately responsible for them and it will then be impossible for them to get back on the pathway to heaven! Is that what you want? Is this a serious issue?

9.    "The plain straight testimony must live in the church, or the curse of God will rest upon His people as surely as it did upon ancient Israel because of their sins. God holds His people, as a body [corporately], responsible for the sins existing in individuals among them." Testimonies, vol. 3, p. 269.

 

What was soon to become the new movement (another church) in the early 1950’s by the sellout to the Evangelicals circa 1955-1957, rejected the message of corporate responsibility when two ministers, Donald K. Short, and Robert J. Wieland, presented the truth of that reality to the leaders. They rejected it out of hand! But the principle of corporate responsibility is found many places in Scripture, not the least of which is found in the account of Achan in Joshua chapters 6 and 7.

 

So if you remain a member after knowing that the church has violated the second angel’s message and the Midnight Cry light of 1844, it then becomes impossible for you to get back on the pathway again. Is your position in the church worth that? Is the social club aspect in the church worth that? Is anything associated with the church worth that? This is for real folk. The time for playing church is over. This shaking message is going to the entire church the world over. Three Africans have been killed by SDA members for giving this message in that country. This fact was reported to me by Dr. Paul Tulla, a former SDA seminary professor in Africa. He studied all this out on my Website and began teaching the truth on the Godhead to his students. He was fired and he said they stole nearly all his belongings. He is now engaged in private ministry in Africa. This is now a life and death issue—an eternal life and death issue!

 

     “The future was mercifully veiled from the disciples. Had they at that time fully comprehend the two awful facts-- the Redeemer's sufferings and death, and the destruction of their city and temple--they would have been overwhelmed with horror. Christ presented before them an outline of the prominent events to take place before the close of time. His words were not then fully understood; but their meaning was to be unfolded as His people should need the instruction therein given. The prophecy which He uttered was twofold in its meaning; while foreshadowing the destruction of Jerusalem, it prefigured also the terrors of the last great day. {GC 25.3}

 

Conclusions on When to Leave

 

·       We are responsible for light when we hear it.

·       If you are reading this document, you are responsible for this truth NOW.

·       The probation for the new movement SDA church was over when it first entered ecumenical liaison in the early 1960’s. Even the Adventist Review stated in the latter 1980’s that the church had been members of the Hungarian Council of Free Churches for over 30 years. That council is in turn a member of The World Council of Churches. About 1500 Hungarian SDA’s protested that membership in Babylon’s confederacy. The new movement SDA church conspired in secret to enter that violation of God’s Word, just like the Jews did in Jeremiah 11:9-15.

 

What will you do with these facts friend of mine? I pray that you will awaken to the seriousness of all this. What more can be said? If you have any further questions I would give you all the time you need to in answering your every question.

 

In His Love,

 

Ron Beaulieu