The TWO Eternal Dignitaries and a THIRD NON ETERNAL God/Man Dignitary as Reckoned by the Bible and Ellen G. White

 

“They have one God and one Saviour; and one Spirit—the Spirit of Christ” (9T p. 289)

 

“Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is; there is Liberty.” (2 Cor. 3:17)

 

"He (Christ) suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which WAS His." Desire of Ages, p. 25 1 Cor. 11:24-265, cf. John 6:53, 54, Titus 3:5, 6.

 

1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

 

"And what was done in type in the ministration of the earthly sanctuary is done in reality in the ministration of the heavenly Sanctuary." E.G. White, The Great Controversy, p. 420.

 

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In 1980, the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists in the World General Conference Session, voted to adopt Rome’s central doctrine, The Trinity Doctrine. As in the Alpha heresy, the ministering brethren were looking on but did not seem to understand how and why their abominable act rendered THE SANCTUARY GONE, THE ATONEMENT GONE. How so? Why so? Because Rome’s Trinity Doctrine teaches that there are three CO-ETERNAL, CO-EQUAL, persons to the Godhead. Since it was the Incarnation sacrifice that produced a THIRD PERSON in the personality of the God/Man come in sinful flesh, or the human nature of the Son of God, THERE CANNOT BE THREE CO-ETERNAL PERSONS, and if there were/are, there would need to be FOUR after the Incarnation sacrifice.

The prime objective of this document is to prove beyond a particle of a doubt that Ellen G. White and the Bible DO NOT teach that there are THREE CO-ETERNAL PERSONS TO THE GODHEAD, and that the Trinity Doctrine obfuscates the Incarnation sacrifice whereby a THIRD PERSON accrued who was ADOPTED into the Godhead of heaven.

How the Trinity Doctrine Renders the Sanctuary Atonement as GONE

First of all I wish to establish the fact that the Godhead is a pillar, landmark doctrine and Ellen White said that pillar doctrines (plural) would be discarded by a New Movement which would “come into” the church. The other pillar doctrine that has been removed is the truth about the human nature of Christ, which was betrayed to the Evangelicals in the 1950’s when the church trashed the definition of the human nature of Christ as portrayed in Bible Readings for the Home Circle. But that is another issue for another time.

The Omega Heresy was to be far worse in scope than the Alpha. The Alpha spread only amongst Kellogg and some of his cronies, but the Omega involved the entire SDA world church via the Trinity Doctrine.

"The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A NEW ORGANIZATION would be established. Books of a NEW ORDER would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the NEW MOVEMENT. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but GOD BEING REMOVED, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure. 

Who has authority to begin such a [NEW] movement? We have our Bibles, we have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth? E.G. White, Selected Messages,  Bk. 1, 204, 205.

 

Nothing could be more effectual in REMOVING GOD as the adoption of the Trinity Doctrine by the church in its 1980 General Conference World Session. Some sigh and cry over lesser abominations, but no abomination compares with the one that obfuscates the “highest good, crowing gift heaven could bestow,” the gift of Christ’s Holy Spirit Divine Nature, made possible by the Incarnation Sacrifice.

 

"And what was done in type in the ministration of the earthly sanctuary is done in reality in the ministration of the heavenly Sanctuary." E.G. White, The Great Controversy, p. 420.

 

"He (Christ) suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which WAS His." Desire of Ages, p. 25; 1 Cor. 11:24-265, cf. John 6:53, 54, Titus 3:5, 6.

 

The Gift of Christ’s Divine Nature Holy Spirit

 

2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Sanctuary Gone Atonement Gone -- "In a representation which passed before me, I saw a certain work being done by medical missionary workers. Our ministering brethren were looking on, watching what was being done, but they did not seem to understand. The foundation of our faith, which was established by so much prayer, such earnest searching of the Scriptures, was being taken down, pillar by pillar. Our faith was to have nothing to rest upon--the sanctuary was gone, the atonement was gone." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 152.

Only Ellen White was able to discern the reason why the pantheism of Kellogg’s book Living Temple rendered the Sanctuary/Atonement as GONE. Kellogg’s book stated that the Holy Spirit is in everything. Were that true, man would have already possessed the highest good, crowing gift of the Holy Spirit WITHOUT THE INCARNATION SACRIFICE that made the gift of the Divine Nature Holy Spirit possible. Thus, Kellogg’s Alpha heresy rendered the Sanctuary/Atonement sacrifice as good as GONE.

 

Godhead as a pillar doctrine -- Personality of God and of Christ Landmarks: "Those who seek to remove the old landmarks are not holding fast they are not remembering how they have received and heard. Those who try to bring in theories that would remove the pillars of our faith concerning the sanctuary or concerning the personality of God or of Christ, are working as blind men. They are seeking to bring in uncertainties and to set the people of God adrift without an anchor." {MR760 9.5}

 

"You are not definitely clear on the personality of God, which is everything to us as a people. You have virtually destroyed the Lord God Himself." EGW letter 300 1903.

The Trinity Doctrine works toward the same end result by teaching that there were eternally THREE PERSONS to the Godhead, thus totally eliminating the heavenly Sanctuary/Atonement Incarnation sacrifice whereby a THIRD PERSON accrued in the person of the humanity of Christ or God come in the likeness of sinful flesh. All the “dumb dog” leaders (Isaiah 56:10-12) were looking on in 1980, but did not seem to understand what they were doing, AND THEY STILL DON’T. The SDA Fundamentals of Belief states, just as Rome’s Trinity Doctrine does, that there are thee CO-ETERNAL PERSONS TO THE GODHEAD. That is an abominable lie which I will prove beyond question in this document.

 

"A new order of things has COME INTO the ministry. There is a desire to pattern after other churches and simplicity and humility are almost unknown. The young ministers seek to be original, and to introduce new ideas and new plans for labor. Some open revival meetings, and by this means call large numbers into the church. But when the excitement is over, where are the converted ones? Repentance and confession of sin are not seen. The sinner is entreated to believe in Christ and accept Him, without regard to his past life of sin and rebellion. The heart is not broken. There is no contrition of soul. The supposed converted ones have not fallen upon the Rock, Christ Jesus." E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 2, pp. 18, 19.

 

The TWO Eternal Dignitaries From the Bible

 

The following verses clearly teach about the TWO ETERNALLY DIVINE PERSONS to the Godhead. Add the God/Man human nature PERSON of Christ that was ADOPTED into the Godhead AFTER the Incarnation sacrifice, which PERSON WAS NOT ETERNAL, and you have three persons to the Godhead. NO MORE, NO LESS.

 

Jhn 14:16   And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 

Jhn 14:17   Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 

Jhn 14:18   I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 

Jhn 14:19 ¶ Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 

Jhn 14:20   At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 

Jhn 14:21   He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 

Jhn 14:22   Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 

Jhn 14:23   Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

 

 

Where is the humanity PERSON in the above Scripture, if Christ’s humanity cumbered His Divine Nature Holy Spirit HIMSELF which was divested from His humanity PERSONALITY AND INDEPENDENT THEREOF?

The worst abomination possible is anything that muddies the truth as to the Godhead, for that is the most fundament pillar, landmark doctrine of Scripture. The apostate SDA church has committed this worst of all abominations by adding to the Testimonies of God, the Spirit of Prophecy, by adding false titles to some paragraph headings in Ellen White’s writings.

Go to White Estate for The Complete Published Writings of Ellen G. White at this link: https://egwwritings.org/ In parentheses, type the words “three eternal dignitaries.” You won’t find those words! Then type the word trinity and search for it. You won’t find one instance of it. It is supplied by the White Estate when it is used in Ellen White’s writings.

 

In the following statement appearing in the compilation book Evangelism, the paragraph heading words: “The Eternal Dignitaries of the Trinity” are supplied by the editors at the White Estate.

 

The Eternal Dignitaries of the Trinity—“The eternal heavenly dignitaries—God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit—arming them [the disciples] with more than mortal energy, ... would advance with them to the work and convince the world of sin.”—Manuscript 145, 1901. {Ev 616.4}

 

It is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO NOTE THAT THE ABOVE STATEMENT DOES NOT MENTION THREE PERSONS, BECAUSE John 14 and Ellen White say repeatedly that the Holy Spirit is Christ. This is the only way to interpret the statement without making many others CONTRADICT. Ellen White clearly states in many statements that the Holy Spirit HIMSELF is Christ. So does John 14. The above statement cannot be interpreted to mean that the humanity God/Man come in the likeness of sinful flesh is ETERNAL, because He is not ETERNAL. I’ll belabor the point by numbering the persons to the Godhead:

1.    The Father who is ETERNAL.

2.    The Son’s HOLY SPIRIT (DIVINE ONLY) NATURE which is ETERNAL.

3.    The Son’s humanity resulting from the Incarnation forward IS NOT ETERNAL SO FOR THIS REASON IT IS TOTALLY FALSE TO CONCLUDE THAT ELLEN WHITE MEANS THREE PERSONS WHEN ONE PERSON TO THE GODHEAD IS UNDENIABLY NOT ETERNAL.

4.    The only two ETERNAL persons in the entire Bible are the Father and the Son’s (Divine Nature ONLY) HOLY SPIRIT. This is so elementary that I feel redundant in pointing this out, but I’m trying to make it as plain as possible without any contradictions as we are instructed to do.

5.    If you choose to interpret the statement as THREE ETERNAL PERSONS, then show me how the GOD/MAN humanity of Christ is ETERNAL when He did not exist until the Incarnation? Show me that and you will have a believer!

6.    It is a true statement that God and Christ’s Holy Spirit are eternal. But Christ’s humanity PERSON IS NOT ETERNAL.

 

It is errantly only deduced by SDA leaders that there are THREE ETERNAL DIGNITARIES, when there is not one statement in all of Ellen White’s writings that states such, and if there were, it would contradict many of her statements on the Godhead and the Bible, John 14, where it clearly teaches that Christ’s Holy Spirit is the Comforter and BOTH He and the Father (TWO PERSONS) come to us, verse 23.

 

That Evangelism p. 616 paragraph heading IS NOT the words of Ellen G. White. She NEVER ONCE used the word Trinity, and there ARE NOT THREE ETERNAL PERSONS TO THE GODHEAD. There are only TWO ETERNAL PERSONS, the Father and the Son and their shared ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT comprise TWO PERSONS. The God/Man human nature of Christ was adopted into the Godhead after the Son of God met the conditions of the Testator’s Everlasting Covenant as a result of the Incarnation of God come in the likeness of sinful flesh.

 

"In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son." He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder." Isa. 9:6. God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. . . . Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love." {FLB 45.4}

 

It is in the future that “Through the eternal ages He is linked to us,” for He certainly WAS NOT linked to us by humanity before His Incarnation.

 

Ellen White Defined the Holy Spirit as the Divine Nature of Christ; the Soul of the Life of Christ; The Comforter; The Mediator

 

"Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin.

In the gift of the Spirit, Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could bestow....

The Spirit was given as a regenerating agency, and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....

It is by the Spirit that the heart is made pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given his Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress his own character upon the church." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42.

 

“The Holy Spirit is the breath of life in the soul. The impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ. It imbues the receiver with the attributes of Christ.” Desire of Ages, p. 805.

 

“Cumbered with humanity Christ could not be in every place personally, therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them to go to His Father and send the Holy Spirit [THE COMFORTER--THE SOUL OF HIS PRE-INCARNATED LIFE] to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit.” E.G. White, Manuscript Releases Volume 14 (No’s 1081-1135) MR No.1084.

 

Bible Evidence That Proves the above statement by Ellen G. White:

 

Ellen White in her “cumbered” statement clearly states that the personalities of Christ’s Holy Spirit HIMESLF, and the personality of His humanity were independent of one another. The Bible clearly proves this by the following evidence:

 

Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus ON EARTH, face to face, when He spoke these words of John 3:13:

 

"And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." John 3:13.

 

Jhn 1:18   No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18. 

 

I REPEAT FOR IMPORTANT EMPHASIS: "In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son." He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder." Isa. 9:6. God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. . . . Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love." {FLB 45.4}

 

Ellen White Spoke of Three Personal Dignitaries in Heaven, BUT NEVER SPOKE OF THEM AS THREE ETERNAL DIGNITARIES

 

"We are to “hold fast” and live up to all the light we receive from heaven. Why? Because God wants us to grasp the eternal truth, and act as His helping hand by communicating the light to those who are not acquainted with His love for them. When you gave yourself to Christ, you made a pledge in the presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—the three great personal Dignitaries of heaven. “Hold fast” to this pledge." {7BC 959.8}

 

The Father, The Son’s Holy Spirit Divine Nature, and the adopted Son’s humanity are all in heaven. But only two are eternal. The adopted humanity of Christ became a distinct person at His Incarnation. Therefore the God/Man, or God come in the likeness of sinful flesh, occurred at the Incarnation and is not eternal. The God element (His Holy Spirit Divine Nature) is eternal, but not the human element, and remember that He was fully human as well as fully divine.

 

“The eternal heavenly dignitaries—God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit—arming them [the disciples] with more than mortal energy, ... would advance with them to the work and convince the world of sin.”—Evangelism, 616. {7ABC 442.4}

 

We cannot deduce from the above statement that there are three eternal dignitaries for the following reasons:

 

Ellen White defines the Holy Spirit as Christ’s Divine nature as independent of His human personality. As stated previously, there are only TWO ETERNAL PERSONS TO THE GODHEAD. The adopted humanity of Christ as a GOD/MAN come in the likeness of sinful flesh is OBVIOUSLY NOT ETERNAL, for that PERSON accrued after the Incarnation.

 

“We are to co-operate with the three highest powers in heaven,—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost,—and these powers will work through us, making us workers together with God.”—Evangelism, 617. {7ABC 442.5}

 

Since the words: “the Son” could refer to Christ’s Divine Nature Holy Spirit, or His human nature, and since the Holy Ghost is the same as Christ’s Divine Nature, the above statement cannot be construed to define three ETERNAL persons. Three HIGHEST POWERS IN HEAVEN are very different from THREE CO-EQUAL, CO-ETERNAL PERSONS IN HEAVEN.

 

“Those who are baptized in the threefold name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, at the very entrance of their Christian life declare publicly that they have forsaken the service of Satan and have become members of the royal family, children of the heavenly King.”—Testimonies for the Church 6:91. {7ABC 442.6}

 

In the above statement, three persons are NAMED as designated by the word THREEFOLD. Therefore, the only way we can interpret the statement without contradicting all the other weight of evidence factors, is to conclude that the Son refers to the adopted humanity of Christ, because His pre-Incarnation Sonship consisted of THE HOLY SPIRIT DIVINE NATURE ONLY.

 

“Hold fast.” This does not mean, Hold fast to your sins; but, hold fast to the comfort, the faith, the hope, that God has given you in His Word. Never be discouraged. A discouraged man can do nothing. Satan is seeking to discourage you, telling you it is of no use to serve God, that it does not pay, and that it is just as well to have pleasure and enjoyment in this world. But “what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul”? You may have worldly pleasure at the expense of the future world; but can you afford to pay such a price? We are to “hold fast” and live up to all the light we receive from heaven. Why?—Because God wants us to grasp the eternal truth, and act as His helping hand by communicating the light to those who are not acquainted with His love for them. When you gave yourself to Christ, you made a pledge in the presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit,—the three great personal Dignitaries of heaven. “Hold fast” to this pledge.... {SD 351.3}

 

The Father is certainly a dignitary of heaven.

The Humanity of the Son is certainly a dignitary of heaven.

The Holy Spirit Divine Nature of the Son is certainly a dignitary of heaven. But only two of the three are ETERNAL.

 

“The Lord Jesus described the difficulties they should meet. Having called their minds to rise to an eminence, He bids them behold the vast confederacy of evil arrayed against God, against Christ, against all who unite with these holy powers. Christ tells them they were to fight in fellowship with all the children of light; that satanic agencies would combine their forces to extinguish the light of the life of Christ out of their ranks. But they were not left to fight the battles in their own human strength. The angelic host coming as ministers of God would be in that battle. Also there would be the eternal heavenly dignitaries—God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit—arming them with more than mortal energy, and would advance with them to the work, and convince the world of sin.”  {16MR 204.4}

 

If the above or any of the Ellen White statements on the heavenly dignitaries were meant to covey THREE ETERNAL PERSONS, those statement would contradict all her many statements that the Holy Spirit HIMSELF is the soul of the life of Christ’s DIVINE NATURE. They are one and the same person as John 14 also proves.

 

We are to “hold fast” and live up to all the light we receive from heaven. Why? Because God wants us to grasp the eternal truth, and act as His helping hand by communicating the light to those who are not acquainted with His love for them. When you gave yourself to Christ, you made a pledge in the presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—the three great personal dignitaries of heaven. “Hold fast” to this pledge. {Ms92-1901.5}

 

It DOES NOT say that these three great personal dignitaries of heaven are ETERNAL, because one of them is NOT ETERNAL, because they include the God/Man come in the likeness of sinful flesh as a result of the Incarnation, and then adopted into the Godhead, and NOT ETERNAL.

 

“The Lord Jesus described the difficulties they [would] meet. Having called their minds to rise to an eminence, He bids them look and behold the vast confederacy of evil arrayed against God, against Christ, against all who unite with these holy powers. Christ tells them they were to fight in fellowship with all the children of light; that satanic agencies would combine their forces to extinguish the light of the life of Christ out of their ranks. But they were not left to fight the battles in their own human strength; that the angelic host coming as ministers of God would be in that battle, and also there would be the eternal heavenly dignitaries—God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit—arming them with more than mortal energy, and [who] would advance with them to the work, and convince the world of sin.” {Ms130-1901.52}

 

Apply my last comment above in DITTO.

 

The Lord Jesus described the difficulties they [would] meet. Having called their minds to rise to an eminence, He bids them look and behold the vast confederacy of evil arrayed against God, against Christ, against all who unite with these holy powers. Christ tells them they were to fight in fellowship with all the children of light; that satanic agencies would combine their forces to extinguish the light of the life of Christ out of their ranks. But they were not left to fight the battles in their own human strength; that the angelic host coming as ministers of God would be in that battle, and also there would be the eternal heavenly dignitaries—God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit—arming them with more than mortal energy, and [who] would advance with them to the work, and convince the world of sin. {Ms130-1901.52}

 

Once again, the above statement does not say the words: THREE ETERNAL DIGNITARIES, because there are not three ETERNAL dignitaries, because the member of the Godhead that was adopted into the Godhead of heaven AFTER the Incarnation, is obviously not eternal. Christ’s humanity IS NOT ETERNAL. But after Christ’s humanity was adopted into the heavenly Godhead, there has been THREE HEAVENLY DIGNITARIES, but not THREE ETERNAL HEAVENLY DIGNITARIES. To teach three eternal heavenly dignitaries is to deny the Incarnation sacrifice by which a THIRD NON-ETERNAL MEMBER OF THE GODHEAD ACCRUED. This is the highest blasphemy a person could engage. That is what the professing SDA church is teaching! That is what Rome is teaching! Any any member of any church that teaches that greatest of all abominations is corporately for that abominable heresy.

 

I have proven from the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy, that the three dignitaries to the Godhead are not THREE ETERNAL, BUT TWO. There are three persons but one, the God/Man come in the likeness of sinful flesh human nature IS NOT/ WAS NOT eternal. His humanity WAS NOT ETERNAL and Ellen White and John 14 prove that it is not His humanity that comes to us, but the two ETERNAL PERSONS, as the ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT OF THE FATHER AND THE SON.

 

~rwb

 

 

The Eternal Dignitaries of the Trinity—The eternal heavenly dignitaries—God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit—arming them [the disciples] with more than mortal energy, ... would advance with them to the work and convince the world of sin.—Manuscript 145, 1901. {Ev 616.4}

Dear Forum members, I find the above statement on Omega Ministries web on the article dealing with TRINITY. On the statement above the three dignitaries are eternal yet the notion I am getting from the writer of the article is only God and Son are eternal. Can anybody clarify please for I am kind of confused,


My Regards to you all
julius