The Everlasting Covenant


J. Wilfred Johnson


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 The Everlasting Covenant


J. Wilfred Johnson

Jan. 7th 1976


Transcribed from six C/Ds, July 17, 2012 thru September 2, 2012



Steven Pond and Mary Savoy


I don't like to start off with apologies, but sometimes you find yourself in that predicament. I am not as well organized as I wanted to be for tonight, especially with all these recorders going, one likes to have things fairly well in line, but I don't have that. One of the problems is there is so much truth that it is a major undertaking sometimes to wade through it to pick out the atoms that relate to any one particular topic and then select the connecting links that go off to the other topics that you can get into one single study. And sometimes I get bogged down in doing that, I get absorbed in some of the literature that we have at our disposal and we have an amazing amount of it. And I end up with not enough time get everything just completely organized just the way I like to have it, so, I will be a little unorganized tonight, informal, or whatever you want to call it.


Some time ago there were some requests that came to me for some studies in connection with The Everlasting Covenant, and I am keenly interested in this particular study. This covenant is a fantastic thing really. It is the central element in the plan of salvation. The Everlasting Covenant is the plan of God to save the universe and at the center of it of course, is Christ.


Now I'm just going to talk about a little bit first if you don't mind me doing that. And I have quite a few books here with me so if we want to get verification upon some of the things we will be touching upon, hopefully we'll have it here. And if I don't have it here tonight or if I can't lay my finger on it, I'll get it for another night.


(A man in the audience) May we ask questions upon occasion?


Yes, however, let me explain something that I am reluctant to admit. When I get wrapped up in moving through a series of thoughts, that are unit and someone interrupts with a question I lose the thread, I have a very poor recall. I am not blaming God for that I accept what He has given me with very deep thankfulness.But sometimes it is difficult for me if very many questions come through and I lose the thread and I lose the concept and can't carry it through to conclusion. However, if it is a question directly in connection with what we are saying and can be answered quickly an occasional one isn't all that bad, but I will certainly plan to open the meeting for questions whenever there is an opportunity or moment to do it.


I think before I go into that I'd better read just a few statements from The Spirit of Prophecy in connection with our study of the Word so that we will not run up against the problem a little later on. I think, I hope that you all are aware that the Word of God is not static and that Seventh-day Adventists do not have all the truth. I will be very frank in saying that The Spirit of Prophecy has given us many statements to the effect that the truth will unfold to the end of time. And it may be that we will touch on a point that you may not have thought of before and wonder whether it is a valid point. Any points that we bring out, we do expect to be able to substantiate from the Word of God or from The Spirit of Prophecy. If we can't do that and if it doesn't fit the pattern we would certainly like to know that and reassess the point.


There is no way that I can explain The Everlasting Covenant and show how it relates to all the different facets of the plan of salvation without bringing out some thoughts that I have discovered nobody that I have contacted has ever thought of or noticed, And this has sometimes brought on a little bit of disputation, a question of validity and I suppose that is to be expected. I have sometimes discussed things with somebody who has brought a thought to me that I have never thought of. And being human our first normal reaction is that whenever thoughts that we have not thought of are expressed especially on topics that may be a little deeper than what we normally enter into, we immediately have a tendency to say ďwell, that point hasn't been revealed, the Lord hasn't given us that, we don't touch that.Ē The implication is of course is that if we don't understand it, God hasn't revealed it. And that is rather a self-centered implication.And I am guilty too, I have done that. I don't know whether you have.


I hope that God has placed me in a position where I am willing to listen to any concept that is expressed by any sincere Christian who is studying the Word with an open mind. I am not trying to cast stones at anyone I'm simply expressing a situation, the Word of God is filled with mysteries. And yet it isn't God's plan that these mysteries should so exist, at least according to this statement; Education page 171;


ďGod intends that to the earnest seeker the truths of His word shall be ever unfolding. While "the secret things belong unto the Lord our God, those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children. The idea that certain portions of the Bible cannot be understood has led to neglect of some of its most important truths. The fact needs to be emphasized, and often repeated, that the mysteries of the Bible are not such because God has sought to conceal truth, but because our own weakness or ignorance makes us incapable of comprehending or appropriating truth. The limitation is not in His purpose, but in our capacity.Ē


Now, to me that statement is very plain, I don't think it needs any elaboration or any excuses for any sentences that are in it.



The fact needs to be emphasized and often repeated that the mysteries of the Bible are not such because God has sought to conceal truth.


Would you believe it? I have not heard that once from anybody. It has never been repeated to me, and it has never been emphasized. I have heard just the opposite. ďYou mustnít delve into the mysteries of God.Ē And I believe that. You mustn't. But when God reveals a mystery it is not a sin to accept it, and the promises given in many places, that God will reward the one that comes to Him in search of truth and understanding of His word if He comes with the right attitude.


This is from Education page 171; ďIt is impossible for any human mind to exhaust even one truth or promise of the Bible.Ē Now, think about that, I can't exhaust a single truth or promise in the Bible. Neither can you.


Now, if that is true, then presumably I could catch a certain portion of it, but that doesn't mean that you would catch the same portion, you might catch a different portion. So that you would understand a certain facet of that particular truth or promise, and I would understand a different one. But this is not just cause for us to get into an argument; this only means that God has permitted one to see one facet and somebody else to see another facet. Rather than to have a controversy over the understanding of the passage, far better would it be to put the two pieces together, or as many as there are, and try to get the total concept. Just like the two eyes in your head, each eye sees a different image, a slightly different angle, which gives us our sense of depth perspective, in addition to the comparative sizes of the object. Without binocular vision we don't get the sensation of depth for the space nearly so clearly, and the same is true with the word of God, you will find many passages in the scriptures and in The Spirit of Prophecy, where one passage apparently contradicts another passage. I'll be coming across some of those with you; I'll be reading some of those. And a person who has read only the one passage formulates his conclusion on that basis and the person who has read the other passage formulates his conclusion on the basis of that passage and the two conclusions are at variance, one with the other, and they disagree. And too often the habit of the individual is to argue about the points and to contend over them rather than to put the two pieces together as in binocular vision and let the psychology of the mind fuse the two images into a concept that has greater depth of understanding. God's word is like that.


So she goes on to say; ďOne catches the glory from one point of view, another from another point; yet we can discern only gleamings


I'm only going to select just a few of these because I feel that we don't have the time to go through them all. But there are a large number of them, and some of them are really quite revealing. But I don't want to take the evening to do this;


I would rather get on to the topic. Let me read another one here from Christ's Object Lessons this is page 129;


ďYet it is possible for us to see all that we can bear of the divine compassion. This is unfolded to the humble, contrite soul.Ē.... Did you notice? The humble contrite soul. .... ďWe shall understand God's compassion just in proportion as we appreciate His sacrifice for us. As we search the word of God in humility of heart, the grand theme of redemption will open to our research. It will increase in brightness as we behold it, and as we aspire to grasp it, its height and depth will ever increase.Ē


Now listen, ďIf we keep the Lord ever before us allowing our hearts to go out in thanksgiving and praise to Him we shall have a continual freshness in our religious life, our prayers will take the form of a conversation with God as we would talk to a friend. He will speak His mysteries to us personally.Ē Let me read that again... He will speak His mysteries to us personally.Ē


I don't expect you to answer my question. But look into your own experience; do you know what it means to have God speak a mystery to you personally? ď...Often there will come to us a sweet joyful sense of the presence of Jesus. Often our hearts will burn within us as He draws neigh to commune with us as He did with Enoch. When this is in truth the experience of the Christian, there is seen in his life a simplicity, a humility, meekness, and lowliness of heart, that show to all with whom he associates that he has been with Jesus and learned of Him.Ē


Maybe we should seek a closer relationship with God so that we could each establish a communication channel with Him in whom we will have the sweet joyful sense of the presence of Jesus and that our hearts will burn within us as He draws neigh to commune with us as He did with Enoch.


Do you realize that you have the privilege of having a relationship with God as Enoch had?


One more here;


ďWhen we eat Christ's flesh and drink His blood,Ē.... (And we will touching on that later on, maybe not tonight.) .... ďWhen we eat Christ's flesh and drink His blood the element of eternal life will be found in the ministry. There will not be a fund of stale, oft-repeated ideas. The tame, dull sermonizing will cease. The old truths will be presented, but they will be seen in a new light. There will be a new perception of truth, clearness and a power that all will discern. ....Their perceptive faculties will be quickened to discern the beauty and majesty of truth.Ē


Page 133; ďFar more than we do it is our privilege to understand these wonderful themes.Ē.... And she just is talking about the gospel and the key that unlocks it. And she goes on to say on page 135;


ďThousands more may engage in the work of searching out the mysteries of salvation. As the life of Christ and the character of His mission are dwelt upon, rays of light will shine forth more distinctly at every attempt to discover truth. Each fresh search will reveal something more deeply interesting than has yet been unfolded. The subject is inexhaustible. The study of the incarnation of Christ, His atoning sacrifice and mediatorial work, will employ the mind of the diligent student as long as time shall last;Ē... And those three topics are all directly connected with The Everlasting Covenant as we will see. ... ďAnd looking to heaven with its unnumbered years he will exclaim, "Great is the mystery of godliness." In eternity we shall learn that which had we received the enlightenment it was possible to obtain here, would have opened our understanding. The themes of redemption will employ the hearts and minds and tongues of the redeemed through the everlasting ages. They will understand the truths which Christ longed to open to His disciples, but which they did not have faith to grasp. Forever and forever new views of the perfection and glory of Christ will appear.Ē


ďThose who eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Godí.... This is from Testimonies to ministers, page 116). .... ďThose who eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of God will bring from the books of Daniel and Revelation truth that is inspired by the Holy Spirit. They will start into action forces that cannot be repressed. The lips of children will be opened to proclaim the mysteries that have been hidden from the minds of men. ďWe are standing on the threshold of great and solemn events. Many of the prophecies are about to be fulfilled in quick succession. Every element of power is about to be set to work. Past history will be repeated; old controversies will arouse to new life, and peril will beset God's people on every side. Intensity is taking hold of the human family. It is permeating everything upon the earth. Study Revelation in connection with Daniel, for history will be repeated. We, with all our religious advantages, ought to know far more today than we do know. As we near the close of this world's history, the prophecies relating to the last days especially demand our study. The last book of the New Testament Scriptures is full of truth that we need to understand.Ē


Well, I don't think I'll read more of those at the moment.


There is just one other one here I want to read, I have a couple dozen more, of different types, we can probably read those some other time.


This is found in Thoughts from the Mount of Blessing page 20; ďThe words of God are the wellsprings of life. As you seek unto those living springs you will, through the Holy Spirit, be brought into communion with Christ.Ē.... (Did you get it?) .... ďAs you seek unto those living springs (words of God) you will, through the Holy Spirit, be brought into communion with Christ.Ē.... Listen now ....ďFamiliar truths will present themselves to your mind in a new aspect, texts of Scripture



will burst upon you with a new meaning as a flash of light, you will see the relation of other truths to the work of redemption, and you will know that Christ is leading you, a divine Teacher is at your side.Ē


There are one or two others I thought I had handy.


Christ's Object lessons page 112; I'd better read two or three more of these so we get the total picture.


ďNo one can search the Scriptures in the spirit of Christ without being rewarded. When a man is willing to be instructed as a little child, when he submits wholly to God, he will find the truth in His word. If men would be obedient, they would understand the plan of God's government.Ē (Do you understand the plan of God's government? If you don't, there is a condition, obedience.)


ďAll who come to Christ.Ē....This is page thirty. .... ďAll who come to Christ for a clearer knowledge of the truth will receive it. He will unfold to them the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, and these mysteries will be understood by the heart that longs to know the truth.Ē


Review and Herald Dec. 20, 1892; ďThere is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people is not a proof that our ideas are infallible.Ē.... And that applies to all of us. ď.... No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation.Ē


Christ's Object Lessons page 108; Christ's words are truth and they have a deeper significance than appears on the surface. All the sayings of Christ have a value beyond their unpretending appearance. Minds that are quickened by the Holy Spirit will discern the value of these sayings. They will discern the precious gems of truth, though these may be buried treasures.


Review and Herald Oct. 21, 1890; ďTo say that a passage means just this and nothing more, that you must not attach any broader meaning to the words of Christ than we have in the past, this is saying that which is not actuated by the Spirit of God.Ē .... In other words, just because a passage has meant to us a certain thing for many years we are not at liberty to say that it has no other meaning. If we say that we are saying something that the Spirit of God did not prompt us to say. Shall I read it again? .... ďTo say that a passage means just this and nothing more, that you must not attach any broader meaning to the words of Christ than we have in the past, is saying that which is not actuated by the Spirit of God.Ē


Remnant Church page 20; ďThose who think that they will not have to give up a cherished view, never have occasion to change opinion, will be disappointed.


As long as we hold to our own ideas and opinions with determined persistency we cannot have the unity for which Christ prayed.Ē


Review and Herald Aug. 2, 1889; Maybe I am reading too many of these. .... ďWe should never permit the spirit to be manifested that arraigned the priests and rulers against the redeemer of the world. They complained that He disturbed the people and they wished He would let them alone for He caused perplexity and dissension. The Lord sends light to us to prove what manner of spirit we are of.Ē


Now I haven't time to go in and show you tonight. The evidences we have that the Lord is going to bring a very severe shaking upon His Church, and the evidences are coming in thick and fast that the time is right upon us. And one of the means that God is going to use to shake us loose is to bring in expanded views of truth that is one of the means that will bring about a situation where people are differing in their opinions and because of those differences they are perplexed. We are moving into a time when every individual is going to have to stand on his own two feet; he is going to have to have his own relationship with God and his own communication channel. His is going to have to study the word of God earnestly and sincerely and independently, and he is also going to have to open his mind to receive the things other people are discovering in the word of God. And Sister White recognizes the God's people will be meeting in little companies studying the word of God and the word will continue to expand in their thinking. There are some who have a very self-satisfied attitude towards God's message, and God put a message in the book, Revelation 3, which is designed for His people at this time, the remnant church, known as the Laodicean Church. The message that He placed there was one of warning to them that they should not become too self-satisfied. He says, you think that you are rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing. And then He gives counsel.


Revelation 3:17, 18;ďBecause thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.Ē


I have the statement with me but I won't take the time to look it up to read it because I am taking too much time on this but Sister White applies that passage very specifically to some of our people who have the feeling that they are secure in the truth. We have the truth and we are safe. Inasmuch as the Israelites back in Jeremiah's day were told by the false prophets to put their trust in the temple, remember in our Sabbath school lesson two weeks ago? We much be careful not to place our trust in corporate strength. We much search and move in toward a personal relationship with God because every one of us, if we are going through, is going to be required to stand on His own, in His own defense, between himself and God alone.


So, I'll read you one more here, from Review and Herald Apr. 1, 1890; ďTo our brethren who are standing in this self-confident, self-satisfied position, who talk and act as if there was no need of more light, we want to say that the Laodicean message is applicable to you.Ē


I think that I won't go any further with those at this stage, if we need more at some later time I will bring them in.


Now, the reason that I am reading these statements to you at this point is simply this; The Everlasting Covenant is one of the mysteries of God. There are certain things about it which are revealed in the book, the Bible, and some things that are revealed about it in The Spirit of Prophecy. And in dealing with this topic we will be reading some of these passages that will raise questions in our mind as to how can that be. And as we compare passage with passage we will see that there is a link and a connection between those passages and together we will get a view of this covenant that we probably have not noticed before. And I would just like for you to be prepared. I am a little sensitive towards this because some things I have expressed in the pass have been misunderstood and some things I have said, I have misunderstood, and we need to be cautious and base all our thinking clearly on the word of God and on The Spirit of Prophecy.


Now, at that point, does anybody have any comments or questions to make before we go into the covenant?


(A man in the audience) Would you differentiate in your mind the term Everlasting Covenant and the plan of salvation or do you see this as one and the same? Or, is the plan of salvation part of the big covenant?


(Wilfred) The Everlasting Covenant as I understand it comprehends the plan of salvation.


(A man in the audience) But the plan of salvation is not The Everlasting Covenant. Is it part of it?


(Wilfred) The covenant is an agreement. The details of the agreement are the plan of salvation.


(A man in the audience) So, basically they are one and the same thing?


(Wilfred) I think basically, yes.


(A man in the audience) That is the point I wanted to get your thinking on.


(Wilfred) Well thatís the way I see it at the present time. Maybe we will discover something on it that would lead us in one direction or another.



(A man in the audience) So, in other words, this is going to be our theme of study all through the ages in heaven?


(Wilfred) Yes.


(A man in the audience) We are told we are going to study the plan of salvation.


(Wilfred) Yes, and it will continue to unfold. And the reason I have read some of these statements is because we will probably be discussing some things that maybe you have not thought about before. And I didn't want anyone to get the feeling that we were delving into mysteries that we had no business delving into. I wanted you to know a little bit about want Sister White says, and what we can expect, and I know that some people are very averse to discussing anything that they have not thought about down through the years. They want to stay right on that ridged road and there is no room for expansion of understanding. Which is find for those people who wish that, but Sister White has some things to say about that too. But I don't want to take any more time now to talk about it or we won't get on with the covenant. I should give a little bit on the covenant tonight.


Last night at prayer meeting I went through the background of the Kingdom of God so that we could understand a little bit about how this covenant came into being and why it came into being. But some of you were not there, so, I suppose the rest of you could be tolerant enough to allow me just a few minutes to point out how the covenant became necessary.


In the Kingdom of God there was no such thing as coercion. God's Kingdom operates more or less like any kingdom in the sense that you have a group of subjects, a dominion with people in it. These people have freedom of choice, they can act on their own, individual initiative, make their own choices, and God gave them that heritage. And it is because of that principle, freed of choice that the entire plan of salvation became necessary; there could have been no sin if there was no freedom of choice.


Apparently this principle of freedom of choice, the individual independent acting decision, is so valuable in the sight of God that He was willing to make this stupendous sacrifice in order to preserve it. If there had been no freedom of choice there would have been no need for the plan of salvation, because everyone would obey on the basis of the programming of his being. Now in God's created beings He did program His law into their hearts. They were instinctively obedient. They instinctively had the principle of the law in their hearts.


Does anybody want to tell us what the principle of God's law is?


(A man in the audience) Self-renouncing love.



(Wilfred) Yes, you will find that in the first chapter of Desire of Ages. The law of life for earth and heaven and the principle of God's character, the basis of His total activity is love, but a unique kind of love, a love that reaches out, rather than turns in. Well, it had to be this way if He was going to have a kingdom of peace with freewill beings. Because, if I have a freedom of choice and I can do as I please and you have a freedom of choice and can do as you please, if my will is free and your will is free, then I can decide to do something in my interest that interfere with something you want to do in your interest and sooner or later that's going to happen, otherwise the will isn't free. There is no independence. But if I decide to do something that interferes with your rights and privileges then I am going to cause you unhappiness if override your will and do it anyway. So, it is no longer a kingdom of peace. The only way that God could guarantee a kingdom of peace was to institute this restriction. You can do as you please until your pleasure begins to interfere with somebody else's pleasure then you have to consider your neighbor. You have to regard your neighbor as yourself. Love your neighbor as yourself. Don't do things in your own interest that are going to harm your neighbor. Now that is the true principle of God's law, and a Christian, a genuine Christian will function on that basis. I sometimes wonder how many genuine Christians we have.


Our instinctive motivation for choices is normally in the interest of self. We make all our plans, all our purposes are built on the idea of what we are going to get out of it. Is that right? And there is nothing wrong with that, until it gets to the point where it interferes with other people. Now, at which point does that start?


The lord has a way of dealing with that. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. We can still run into difficulty on that because my standards may be a little different than somebody else's, and what I would not mind them doing to me, they might mind my doing to them. But letís not get to far afield in that. Basically, that's the principle.


Now, if you do the first commandment, is of course love the Lord you God with all your heart, with all you mind and all you strength, and so on. But he says, if you do that, and if you want to demonstrate that you love the lord with all your heart then the way that you do it is to love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus says; ďIn as much as you have do it unto one of the least of these my brethren, you have done unto to me.Ē So, if you want to do something for God, to show your appreciation, to show your love, you do it to others.


Well, I would like to go into the details of the original Kingdom, to give you some concept of the type of government God had in the beginning. But that there again I am going to run into a lot of time and I am so long winded that itís pathetic.


But how do you understand things unless you lead the mind through those things and bring the thoughts together so you get a concept, I don't know thereís any



other way to do it. Let it be sufficient to say that the original Kingdom of God was a kingdom of peace, everybody was happy, everybody loved to serve the Lord, it was their instinct, their greatest joy, to serve God. The angels received their greatest happiness from serving God. You find some of this in ďThe Story of RedemptionĒ, and some of it in Mount of Blessing I think, and other books. And if you want me to read it, I can do that, but won't do it just to postpone it.


Now what upset this thing? The one to whom God had given the greatest of all gifts, the being upon whom He had showered the highest degree of talents, the greatest beauty, and the highest position, that one, began to question the justice of God's law. He wanted to indulge himself a little more, he didn't think God's law was quite fair, it was too restrictive; he thought he could do away with that law. You don't believe it? Itís in the books, The Story of redemption.


Now as soon as you do away with God's law, can you see that peace cannot be sustained? Can you see that? Is there anyone who can't see that? Just let a bunch of people lose doing their own thing. Tell them they can do anything they please. What's going to happen sooner or later? Peace, harmony, everybody happy? Well, in order for God to vindicate His law He had to let Lucifer prove that his ideas were not right. He had no choice really in that matter, He could have destroyed Lucifer. Sure. He could have taken Lucifer's freedom of choice away and made him a machine, obey His dictates. But the freedom of choice was the thing God was not willing to relinquish. That He wanted to preserve. Because He wanted to preserve that He had to go through with the plan of salvation.


Now look, why did God want to preserve the freedom of choice? Is there something so specifically valuable that it was worth that much cost? What do you think?


(A Women in the audience) They wouldn't have had true fellowship.


(Wilfred) That's good, that's good.


(A Man in the audience) Love can only exist if the freedom of choice exists.


(Wilfred) And thatís a good statement too. Although love and freedom of choice are two distinct things, I'd have to get a little more thought to that one before I can crystallize a conclusion on it. I can feature that it would be possible to have love, the feelings of love, without having the freedom of choice. But I would have to give it more thought, Does anyone else have a though on it, have you though it through?


(A woman in the audience) unintelligible, (something about her dog.)


(Wilfred) Yes, heís programmed. Well I don't think the thought is pertinent to our argument here anyway at the moment so maybe we can move on and come


back to it, if somebody wants to come back to it.


(A Man in the audience) The question is if we are going to serve God can we use all the service as a motive of Love and that can only be prompted by a choice made by the party going to do the service.


(Wilfred) That's right brother, that's good, thanks for bringing that in.


(A Man in the audience) It can be forced.


(Wilfred) That's right. Love as a motivation of behavior can only function where there is freedom of choice. Everybody got that? Now where you have freedom of choice, if there is no outside coercion of any kind, none at all, then can you see that that freedom of choice gives you the privilege of creation. You can come up with something new, something that is entirely your decision. It wasn't given to you, it wasn't pushed on you, and it's in the principle of freedom of choice that created art, created works, are produced. Now do you see this, the reason that God is so anxious to preserve the freedom of choice is the fact that His character constrained Him to do it. What is His character? What kind of love? Self-sacrificing. Now if He didn't have somebody to self-sacrifice it on, He couldnít function as a God with that character. God craved fellowship with beings who could respond on their own initiative without any outside compulsion. You get that?


The creating of freewill beings was providing God with a situation where Hecould express His character. Parents, children come into the family that gives you the privilege of expressing your character.


(A woman in the audience) Well then, are angles and human beings the only ones that have this power or characteristics?


(Wilfred) It is my understanding that there are many other worlds in which there are freewill beings, I think we can get the verification for that in the books.


(A Man in the audience) May I even suggest it goes beyond beings in a sense even goes to created nature, birds; we may get this concept if you'll read that part right adjacent to the quotation that we have already mentioned. If I recall correctly itís on page 19 originally it is amplified on page 20 of Desire of Ages and right on the lower portion there is depicted to the right lower portion this is what I have always called the circuit of beneficence, I don't know if you want to expand on that idea there, but it says ďEven as the birds sing, and they in turn praise God and we in turn praise God by sharing our love. God gave His love through His son to us we in turn praise God by imparting this love to other so that they two may praise God and this is the way this whole thing works as a circuit. And when we fail to impart this love of God to our fellow men then we break the circuit. And this is called the circuit of beneficence; Beneficence is another word


for charity which is another word for love. This whole concept of the circuit of beneficence, and it even talks, go under, yea, right there on that page, right there above your finger maybe.


(Wilfred) My paging is different, apparently.


(A man in the audience) Oh, I am sorry.


(Wilfred) Because page 19 is the very first page in my book.


(Another man in the audience) There is nothing save the selfish hard man that lives to itself, is that the part, no bird cleaves the air, no animal that move on the ground....


(The other man again) All of this, yes, that's the idea, where you have the birds, the animals, lives unto itself. They all live for the benefit of man. And man in turn has lived in turn to benefit the Lord. Because we have received, we must give, and when we don't, it breaks the circuit.


(Wilfred) Very good. Well we are leading up to The Everlasting Covenant.


When Lucifer decided with his own free choice to go contrary to the law of God and he refused to accept the counsel, to accept the advice, to accept the warning, as to the consequences. God could have stopped it, but if He had stopped it the minds of the other beings in the universe could always have had a question.


Now, the fact that God knew of the apostasy right from the beginning indicates to me that God was prepared to go through with this thing right from the start. And if He was prepared to go through it right from the start He knew the outcome and decided the outcome was worth it. Do you follow that? So, He knew that Lucifer was going to foul it up. He gave Lucifer everything He could give him, all the honor He could give him, just a little bit below the Son of God, he was next in line from the Son of God in the hierarchy in heaven. And God knew that it wasn't going to work. You see, God's principle of position and honor is based on character and the person who humbles himself, what does the Bible say, he will be exalted, and the person who exalts himself, what will happen, he is humbled.


Now God exalted Lucifer and Lucifer did not have to fall. He could have had that position for eternity, but there is one condition; let him who is greatest of all, be a servant. And Lucifer wasn't willing to take that, he didn't like that idea, he wanted a little bit more of his own thing. He wanted to do his own thing and forget about God's law. So here was the soil in which God could demonstrate the principle of His law. He said, Ok, I am going to let Lucifer demonstrate his ideas. He created this earth and He placed man upon it, in a mortal state, so, that after the demonstration was all completed the consequences that are intolerable in the


Kingdom of Heaven could be destroyed. There is only one way to get rid of things you don't want, that is to destroy them. If anybody is expendable and useless, he dies. But everybody that God created in this world has the privilege after having had preformed his part as a guinea pig in the great demonstration of being rewarded with everlasting life in the Kingdom of Heaven. God is fair, He is not cruel, and He is not unjust. And the people who are willing to go through the highest degree of service, the service that causes the greatest degree of suffering or pain or whatever will be rewarded according to their works of surrender and willingness. Do you understand that?


Now, if you cannot take the position that God has placed you in, if you feel you can't take it, like Lucifer, but you honestly feel that the thing is too hard for you God will let you have your own will, your own choice, and you do not necessarily have to be lost. That is in Corinthians. You can accept the call of God, and there is no repenting of that. If you decide not to take the call that God gives you, and then God will choose somebody else. And you have lost that call. But you do not necessarily at the same time have to lose eternal life. Letís be sure of that. Now some people will, who was that who was called before Sister White for that special job? It was Hazen Foss and William Foy. Now, one of them and I forgot which one it was, by his own choice said that he couldn't make it.


He created the earth, He set man upon it, and He ordained that here Lucifer would have the opportunity to show his principles of government. To demonstrate before all the universe how his ideas would function. Now you say, well, suppose Adam had not sinned. Alright, if Adam had not sinned the demonstration would not have gone forward. But listen, God knew of the apostasy from the beginning. God knew that Adam was going to fall. He knew it. So, His plan was all set up. Right from the start He had the provision made. And He knew, He could see the end from the beginning, that after the demonstration had gone forward for six thousand years, and that is a significant thing too. It was six days that He made the literal creation, and on the seventh day He looked it all over and saw that it was good. Six days, each day for a thousand years, He planned for the demonstration and the restoration, the recreation of the image of God in His people, and on the seventh day, a seventh thousand years, you know what we are going to be doing? We are going to be looking over the whole situation, everything that happened and deciding that God was right. It was good what He did. Got that? It is a very significant parallel.


(A Man in the audience) Where did you glean that concept from? Thatís a quotation I would very much appreciate. I will be happy to supply you later on with thirty three statements about the six thousand year period, from The Spirit of Prophecy. Dr. _____ passed them to me the other day.


(Another man in the audience) That's one I would like to have,


(A man in the audience continues) There are thirty three statements from


The Spirit of Prophecy indicating that until Christ comes there will be a sixthousandyear period, and then there is the thousand years of rest when we will study the history of this world during the millennium, and see if God is fair.


(Wilfred) I'll answer your question just the same. I got that concept as I looked at the picture that comes to me through the scriptures and the calendar, and where the Bible says that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day. And Sister White says that every statement has a significant meaning beyond its surface meaning. And I just take a look at the genealogies which date back to about 4000 B.C. and where we are in history, and the signs are taking place, and it all fits together. Now I can't say that we're going to end right at the end of six thousand years exactly, I am dubious about that because the Bible says that except He shorten those days no flesh will be saved. Now whether that means shorten the six thousand years or not, remains to be seen, I am not concerned about it because the Bible says that no man knows the day and hour when this thing is going to round out. However, they will know before the end comes. But I don't know and I haven't contacted anybody else that could prove to me any particular date was the right date. But I rather suspect that there is something in the book that will give the clue, but failing that regardless, the voice of God is going to speak from heaven delivering The Everlasting Covenant, pronouncing the never ending blessing, and giving the saints the day and hour of Jesus' coming, those three things, the voice of God from heaven is going to declare before Jesus comes. But it won't be very much before according to the sequences of The Great Controversy, it looks like it comes very close to the end. So, we won't worry about that.


Now, we are right near the end of the conflict, the controversy, and Sister White said that as we near the end God's people are going to be stirred up to study the word. They're going to be intensely interested in the closing events and its now happening all over the continent, meetings like we are having here are duplicated all over the place. People are gathering in private homes, little groups, families, and they are delving into the prophesies and the books. They are gathering up the quotations, there is no end of individuals who have been burdened to go into The Spirit of Prophecy in research and gather all the passages that deal with a certain subject. I have several of those books at home where somebody has gone to work and gathered all the quotations that deal with any one particular subject that they can find in The Spirit of Prophecy. And these things are going to be of inestimable value for us as we fortify our minds with the truths of the scriptures so that we can stand through the last great conflict, and if we don't do it, we won't stand. We won't necessarily be lost but, whether you are saved or lost depends on your faith in God. If you lose your faith in God you've had it., because you are saved by faith. And the devil is going to do everything he can to destroy your faith. You can't put your trust in any person; you can't even put your trust in any denomination. You can't put your trust in the theologians. I can read that to you from the pen of inspiration. You can't do it. Your faith is going to have to be built on your understanding on your word of God as the Spirit of God has


revealed it to you. And if it is the Spirit of God that is working on your heartand mind and it will be if you fulfill the conditions. Then your thinking will harmonize with the thinking of every other one of Godís children because Jesus prayed that they would all come into unity, into the unity of the faith, that they would all be one as He and His Father were one, that was His last prayer. And the saints are going to be perfectly united in their understanding of God's principles of truth. There may be little facets on the fringes that are different because we have different minds. But the concepts, the basic concepts of the plan of redemption and specifically the things that pertain to the experience of God's people in these closing hours, and it is a very important subject, they will be unified on those things.


Anything I say, don't accept it just because I said it. But go to God and His word and if you find evidence that the things that we discussed are in fact true, and you are convinced in your own mind, thank God. If you find that the Bible contradicts it, The Spirit of Prophecy contradicts it, then I would be the first person who would thank you because you came and showed me, because I want the truth and nothing but the truth. I have found statements that contradict other statements and I may say something


(The end of C/D #17 and the beginning of C/D #18)


If the contradictions occur and you can't see through them put them on the shelf, just leave them rest, don't forget them just put them in storage. Sooner or later you ask God to help you understand that, sooner or later you'll come across other passages of scripture or you'll have other experiences which will give you the material that when brought together with those two contradictory passages will link them up and they will fit like a glove, and you'll get inspiration like a flash, I see it. There it is. It is something like putting pieces of a jigsaw puzzle together, you know. You put these pieces where they fit, and they fit only in one place, and when you get them all together you know that you've got them in the right place because you see the picture. And that is the way God's plan of salvation is. When you have the correct interpretation it will fit the total concept.


Now the plan of salvation is very complex, I didn't read you that statement but she has one which says that there are many things in it that we still don't understand. And that it will unfold through every generation. In fact she makes this statement. I think I should read this one.


The Great Controversy page 609; ďDifferent periods in the history of the church have each been marked by the development of some special truth, adapted to the necessities of God's people at that time. Every new truth has made its way against hatred and opposition; those who were blessed with its light were tempted and tried. The Lord gives a special truth for the people in an emergency.Ē



In Christ's Object Lessons page 129; ďIn every age there is a new development of truth, a message of God to the people of that generation. The old truths are all essential; new truth is not independent of the old, but an unfolding of it.Ē


On page 78, the same book; ďFor His church in every generation God has a special truth and a special work....At the outset its advocates are few. By the great men of the world and by a world-conforming church, they are opposed and despised.Ē


Now my question is. Oh, one more, I'll read before I comment. Page 134, ďThe significance of the Jewish economy is not yet fully comprehended. Truths vast and profound are shadowed forth in its rites and symbols. The gospel is the key that unlocks its mysteries. Through a knowledge of the plan of redemption, its truths are opened to the understanding. Far more than we do, it is our privilege to understand these wonderful themes. We are to comprehend the deep things of God.Ē


I hope I have read enough of those statements to justify what we are doing. I am merely planning to share with you the things that God has permitted me to see in the books. And you can sort them out, check them and come to your own conclusions. Some of them we can't come to conclusions on, we simply have to accept because the book say it. You don't understand, well, it still says it, and we accept it. Some of them we will be able to understand, but we are to comprehend far more than we do, see. We should be understanding far more than we do understand, that's the point. And how are we to come to understand more than we do understand if we don't dig in and study. She talks about digging like a miner digging for gold, or for minerals, we've got to dig, but we must have the right attitude. We are not digging in any sense to use what we discover for self glorification or for self monetary aggrandizement is the right word, right. Or curiosity, or sensation, or argument sake. And my recommendation is to you that if you spot something you hadn't seen before, you don't necessarily have to go out and broadcast it all over Alberta the moment you see it. Because you may have seen something that is right or you may have something that is wrong. Hang on to it for a while, do a little more checking. Wait a bit to see whether it fits in with the rest of the picture. And when you finally get a unit of the concept and it is dead sure, then maybe you can start sharing a little of it with somebody, and seeing how the reaction is. Maybe they can point out to you something that is a flaw in it, maybe they can add something to it, and maybe they can substantiate it.


Now, my question relative to these statements; Where do you think we are living today?What part of the time period are we in?


(A man in the audience) The time when the angels are holding back the winds of strife.



(Wilfred) Yes, just ready to let loose. Why aren't they letting loose?


(A man in the audience) Because the saints have not yet been sealed in their foreheads.


(Wilfred) Right! And why have they not been sealed?


(A man in the audience) They are not prepared to stand for the things that lie ahead.


(Wilfred) Right! They are not prepared for the great and dreadful day of the Lord. That is exactly what it is. They're not preparing.


And the seal is a settling into the truth. But they don't understand all the truth yet. When the Holy Spirit comes, the Spirit of truth, He is going to guide you into how much of it?


(Audience) All.


(Wilfred) Are you sure of that? That's what is says, isn't it? Do we have it all yet?


(Audience) No.


(Wilfred) That wasn't very loud.


(Audience) No.


(Wilfred) Are you sure?


(A man in the audience) Sister White says in Selective Messages Vol 1 page 401, ďWe only have the glimmerings of the rays of light that are yet to come to us as a people. ď


(Wilfred) But she also says, and here this contradictory statements, But she also says; But all the truth necessary to see us through to the Kingdom of God has been given.


(A man in the audience) But we don't understand it.


(Wilfred) See now, you've got to bring those two thoughts together. Both of those two statements are correct otherwise she is a false prophet.


We don't understand the truth that has been given. That's the key.


(A man in the audience) Part of it is that we haven't studied sufficiently.




(Wilfred) Good, Good, Now if we are going to be prepared for the sealing, if we are going to be fortified so we can stand through the last great conflict we must fortify our minds. And that is what we are attempting to do or going to attempt to do. And I am a little slow here at getting at the subject I hope you will forgive me.


There are hundreds of related thoughts and ideas that mesh in with it and without bringing some of them we will be walking along a street like horse with blinders over its eyes and he can't see except straight down the road. And if that's all a horse can see, it doesn't know anything about the territory it going though. Right? We need to, as we go through the streets of this great panorama of truth keep our eyes peeled in all directions so that we can tell how all the streets fit together and find our way through the maze. So, I have to do a little of this and I hope you will be tolerant with me. If you stay with me long enough I think I can pretty well guarantee that you're are going to see a jigsaw puzzle with a picture in it. But if you just get snatches of it here and there that picture isn't going to show up. And it will look like a hodge-podge. But I want to assure you right here and now that I am thinking in terms of a coherent, logical, sensible picture that I have checked and rechecked and have found dozens and dozens and dozens of statements all through The Spirit of Prophecy and the Bible that concur with that picture. And I am constantly looking for things that contradict it, because I want the truth, and God knows that. In my teenage I couldn't understand the truth. I had no trouble understanding other things. Science was quite simple for me I didn't have any trouble getting 100% on my exams or awfully close to it. And I could comprehend things very quickly, I could understand them and how they worked, see through it, But I can't remember things. And God doesn't always bless us with all the good things in life. But actually, I am thankful to God because I have a good forgetter. Because there are things in life that I like to forget and as long as I am going to live in this world I will be thankful to the Lord if He will continue to let me have a good forgetter. It has a penalty with it. I have to keep studying and studying and studying to retain things that I want to keep, and that is a chore. But then it is off-set by thought that I can forget the things I don't want to remember, and some people have a very sharp memory they can't forget.And they keep on worrying and worrying and worrying about the past and the mistakes they've made and the painful things they have experienced, they never have any peace.


I am thankful that the Lord introduced the principle of death. Because incidentally a dying memory is a part of death, if you lost your total memory right now, you couldn't remember a thing that ever happened to you, you were just band new fresh setting here and that all you ever knew. What part of your life would you have? Itís all gone. You are essentially dead. Death is unconsciousness isn't it? And you are totally unconscious of your past life. Your life is gone, itís gone. So, I am glad that God introduced death because only by death, the principle of death could sin be irradiated and its consequences. If that thing was forever going to be popping up throughout all eternity, constantly looking back at all these horrible things that have happened and there are some awfully horrible things that have


happened under the government of Satan, some terrible things, how happy could we be? And even God Himself says in His everlasting covenant, He states it, He says, I also am going to forget something.


(A man in audience) Your inequities and your sins.


Wilfred) I'll wipe them clean up. Now God is going to have to take a part of His life where that is recorded and slice it off. Even God is going to taste of death because of sin. Doesn't it say that God died with His Son? He suffered with his son. I don't have the statement, maybe I am wrong. It seems to me that some place she says, it just came back to me now. She says something about how. I probably didn't say it quite right. But God suffered through the death with His Son, I mean He felt it, He partook of it, but I don't understand that, the God head is a mystery. However, I do understand this, that Christ died an eternal death of the sinner. I know that. Because she said it. And she also says that the death of the sinner is an everlasting death from which there will be no hope of a resurrection. So Christ did die to something for eternity. But we won't go into that either. We will be touching on it later.


But, do you see why death was necessary? Death was not just an arbitrary consequence of sin that the Lord invented and said well, I'm going to punish you because you sinned, I'm going to wipe you right of the face of the earth or I'm going to torture you for eternity as many of the Protestant Churches believe. God didn't just do that because He took a notion to do it. It was the merciful thing to do. No way could you have an eternal government of peace, a complete restoration to the peaceful government before Lucifer's sin, which I could read to you out of the books. No way could you have that restored if the effects of sin were going to be remembered in the future. Only by death could that be irradiated. Only by death can suffering be irradiated. You see. The penalty of sin, no, I won't say penalty, I'll say consequence. The consequence of sin is suffering. You break God's law and somebody is going to get hurt and that suffering can become very intense. Jesus accepted the most intense suffering that any being ever suffered, He accepted that. And death was a relief, a release, from the suffering. Death is a merciful thing. I would rather have eternal death than eternal suffering, wouldn't you?


I think you had a question?


(A man in the audience) Yes, your reference as to death being a method of forgetting.


(Wilfred) That's part of it.


(A man in the audience) Now, how about the one hundred and forty four



thousand that are going to be translated without seeing death yet they would have partaken of the results of sin and so on and so forth, they are going to suffer a small death on their own as well.


(Wilfred) They are not going to die physically but they are going to reach a stage where they cannot recall a single sin that has not been confessed, and they know that when a sin has been confessed that it has been forgiven and it will no longer torment them. In other words, God is going to cleanse house for them in such a manner that they will not be tortured with quilt over the sins of the past. They are going to forget their sins just like God is. If God is going to forget them, surely He is not going to let His people remember them. You see. Now they are going to go through a period of cleansing, an experience in which they are going to be cleansed. And I will be touching on that, itís in the Bible and itís in The Spirit of Prophecy. Those who are willing to go through and I hope you people are or some of you, because if you aren't and nobody else is we going to be handing around for more than six thousand years. And I don't want to see the world then; maybe I'll be passing off anyway. But what about you younger people, you will still be around and I do not want to be here if I were you. The sooner we can get this thing over with, the sooner we are going to be out of it. And if we are willing to do it God is going the initiate a program of purification of His people, a cleansing of His people. But we have to fulfill the conditions. And as soon as they are purified and perfected, probation will close. And He will demonstrate after probation closes that the plan of salvation worked. Because here He has got a people who are keeping His commandments and who have the faith of Jesus. And they have no mediator to stand good for their deficiencies, they are standing before a holy God without a mediator and they are living before a holy God without sin. And some people don't believe that can happen, even some of our good Adventist theologians don't believe that can happen. But there is an increasing number who are catching the message. And the literature is coming out, the articles are being written, and they are dead on. God's people are beginning to see the things they are going to have to see in order for the Lord to close up His work. And that is one of them.


God's people are going to be perfected; they are going to overcome sin as Jesus overcame. You don't believe it? Well, you don't have to believe it, but I'll read it. Right out of the message that God wrote to this particular people. Again back to Revelation 3:21. In verse twenty He shows you what He is going to do to bring it about. In verse twenty one He goes on to say what the results going to be. And He says, ďTo him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.Ē


Now look at that a little closer, and maybe you have looked at it, it really says more than one thing and much of the scriptures are that way. It is so carefully written, that's why I like the King James Version with all apologizes to the other interpretations. I think that God had His Spirit guiding the translators in all the important things and many passages are so written that they have more than one


meaning so that the meaning is present truth under a new situation. But listen, it doesn't just mean that they overcome in somewhat the same way that the Lord overcomes it means that they overcame by the same process that the Lordovercame. To him that overcometh....even as I also overcame.... I can read it to you from the books.


The reason that Jesus came into this world was to prove that in sinful humanity it was possible to live without sin through the strength that would be given by God in the union of divinity with humility. And Jesus came to this world and stripped himself of all the power He had within Himself and accepted only the power that God gave to Him in His conflict with sin. And He used in His own behave no power that is not freely available to us. I quoted from Sister White. And the reason he did was to prove that it could done. And now that He proved that it could be done the Father was willing to accept the mediation of Jesus on behave of The Everlasting Covenant, which I haven't got to yet. This is all material that relates to it though we will be pointing back to it. Jesus can now ask the Father, pray the Father and He will send what?


(The audience) The comforter.


(Wilfred) What is the comforter?


(The audience) The Holy Spirit.


(Wilfred) For what purpose?


(The audience) To lead us into all truth.


(Wilfred) For what else?


(The audience) Convict the world of its sins.


(Wilfred) Yes, for what else? What have we just been talking about?


(The audience) To help us overcome.


(Wilfred) TO KEEP US FROM SINNING. That is what she says; God gave His Holy Spirit to keep us from sinning. Now we are going to go in and dig out from the books the process by which that takes place. It's a process. And itís all in there.


When the Spirit comes it brings to us the love of God. Romans 5:5 And itís the love of God which is the life of Jesus, the very life of Christ is His love. It is that self sacrificing love that will be implanted in the human soul that will give the motive power, the constraining power to enable that human soul to implement his decision to cease from sin. Not only that, it will transform the heart so that the


programming in the computer lines up with the law God and he will love the Law of God and hate the sin, which is contrary to what he does in his natural state. That's the job of the Holy Spirit. Now I hope you are listening. That portion of the Holy Spirit, that particular element or aspect of the Holy Spirit, (and it has many aspects), which is able to do that could not have been given to sinful humanity accepting through the sacrifice of Christ. That is what He provided through His sacrifice. He provided His own very life for you so you could live without sin and live eternally.


(A woman in the audience) So, in time when the 144,000 when we have the law written in our hearts and in our minds is when the Spirit can come in and help us that way, otherwise it cannot be done that way.


(Wilfred) The Spirit will come to do that job. You can't do it yourself. Your heart, incidentally, I should explain the heart usually in scriptures means the emotions, the feelings, the way you feel, your likes your dislikes, your loves and your hatreds. Thatís your heart. It has other usages in the Bible but thatís the main use, thatís what we are talking about there when we talk about a transformed heart, a changed heart, itís your feelings, your emotions. You see, Jesus delighted to do the will of the Father, right, He delighted to do Godís law, it was a joy to Him, He liked it, and He wanted to do it. So He didnít have, I shouldnít say He had too much trouble doing it because the devil was moving through His physical degenerate nature to pull Him down. But it was because of His divine nature, which recoiled at evil, she says, that He hated sin that is why He didnít sin. Now, with me, I love sin, some of it, like the box of chocolates that somebody from the states sent me a couple of days ago, and I dug into those and I ate more than I should have. Now, why did I do that, and I didnít feel very good for a day or so. Because my heart is sinful. My appetite graves the chocolates, I love chocolates. Now, if I hated chocolate like I hate mustard, there would have been no temptation. And the Lord says He going to change that heart of mine so that it is in harmony with His. Because He said so in His New Covenant. He says; I will give you a new heart, I will write my law in your heart. And when He writes that law in my heart I will love the law of God. I wonít be like Lucifer, not like him, I will love it,


(A man in the audience) Would you like me to send you a box of candy if we know you wonít eat it?


(Wilfred) I hope so. No, it isnít quite that way. Do you know that it is harder to eat in moderation than it is to refuse all together?


And the Bible says; Be ye temperate in all things. Alcohol is not a sin to imbibe. It is not a sin to drink alcohol. It depends on your motive that the purpose is. There are some people who feel that you must NEVER do this because itís wrong. Now, there are some things I refuse to take. The only time I ever take alcohol is



when there is a certain medicine that is dissolved in alcohol that I need. And even Paul advised Timothy to take a little alcohol for His stomach sake. As a medicine, in temperate moderation for a specific good purpose it is not a sin. Whatsoever is not of faith, says my Bible, is sin. The implication is that whatsoever is of faith is not sin. Happy is the man who condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. Paul says, It is not forbidden of me, but it is expedient that I donít do it. Right?


Iím sorry John.


(A man in the audience) I was just going to say, If you lived out on a farm here and you were an Adventist and your great grandfather had some brandy that was there and there was a terrible storm and someone came in, or your dog found someone who was just about dead it would be very wise you give him some of that brandy to preserve his life.


(Wilfred) Well, there are many thoughts here. We have liberty in the law of God, but not license. And letís be careful how we understand these things.


(A man in the audience) Liberty tempered by wisdom.


(Wilfred) Liberty tempered by wisdom. The law of God you see has a principle. A principle, that we respect what our behavior does to God and what it does to other people. And if everything is governed on that basis, weíll come pretty close to it. But lest we may a little uncertain in some things the Lord has given us an abundance of instruction that we should have no difficulty following it.


(A woman in the audience) She does say that appetite will be hard to overcome close to the end.


(Wilfred) Itís the last sin to be overcome. Appetite will be the last sin that will be overcome.


(A man in the audience) She says that gluttony is the sin of this age.


(Wilfred) Meanwhile, donít have guilt complexes. You people who are worried about your weight and how much youíre eating and all the rest of it. Itís a sin alright, itís a sin. So was Peterís behavior on the eve of the crucifixion. It was a gruesome sin. Did God forsake him? Why did Peter sin?


(A man in the audience) He was of the flesh.


(Wilfred) Yes,

(A man in the audience) He lacked self-sufficiency.



(Wilfred) Yes, A little more than that.


(A man in the audience) God permitted it so he would understand his true nature.


(Wilfred) Who was the one that was really functioning through Peter? Satan. Jesus said it. Satan has desired to have you Peter, and Iím praying for you that your faith wonít fail. Peter had to have an experience and the only way to have it was for God to let that happen. But He didnít want to lose Peter, so He prayed that Peterís faith wouldnít fail. The same is true with you, God doesnít want to lose you, but you are going to have to go through an experience to convince you that you are totally helpless. Like the Israelites did under the Old Covenant. They thought they could do it; God had to show them that they couldnít. And He is going to show you that you can do it. And when you are good and ready to admit that and if you really want victory, you just keep praying for it and you keep plugging at it, donít quit. Now, there are some people who teach that you should let go and let God, see. Yes, you let go and let God, but you donít stop striving. And I can read that to you. You still make your decision not to eat those chocolates Johnson or at least not to eat so many at one time.


Itís not a sin to have a chocolate. God made all of these things for our pleasure and our enjoyment. But the things that are poisonous, we would be better to stay away from them.


Now, She talks against sugar, you know that donít you? And, so some people say, we wonít have any sugar, so they quit eating sugar altogether. Well, thatís not the law. And Sister White didnít quit eating sugar. She ate sugar. One of her favorite desserts was lemon pie. Iíd like to see you eat a lemon pie made without sugar.


(A man in the audience) She also says fruit pies are alright. And they should be put on the table when all the rest of the meal is put on the table.


(Wilfred) Thatís right. Well, the Lord does not condemn you.


(A man in the audience) You condemn yourself.


(Wilfred) Yes, you condemn yourself. Listen, the Lord has provided for the forgiveness of every one of your sins, past, present, and future, until the close of probation. And even then, thatís another story. And all you have to do is accept His forgiveness.


You parents, you tell your little tykes look, you mustnít do that, now donít do that, so the little tyke goes ahead and does it. What do you do? Well, you may discipline him but you donít pick him up and throw him out a window, and say get out, I donít want you any more, do you? Huh? Any of you done that? You



wouldnít if you loved your kids.


Now what is Godís attitude towards us? Itís the same thing. He loves us, and if he loves us He is not going to throw us out, no way. He doesnít like the sin, He hates the sin, but He loves the sinner. So, if you flunk out, you just keep on trying. And as you have your attitude of repentance and penitence before God and you plead for purity of heart and I can read that to you. You plead for purity of heart; He will give it to you. But it is a process and some of us have discussed that before and I suppose we will have to discuss it again for those who havenít. Itís a process. There is a purification process. It comes through the agency of the Holy Ghost. But the Bible says. In fact, Jesus, No. It was John the Baptist that says this, He says; I indeed baptize you with water but somebody is coming after me who is to baptize you with water and fire.


And if you want to go over to Malachi, chapter 3, you will find here the promise that the Lord is going to send the Messenger of the covenant, and that is what we are going to be talking about, see, is that covenant. And God is going to send a messenger of the covenant to do a job, letís read it. Itís about time to quit here, but weíll finish off with this.


ďBehold, I will send my messenger and He shall prepare the way before Me, and the Lord whom you seekĒ.... But before I go any further, we are looking for the Lord, arenít we? And the way of the Lord has to be prepared, doesnít it? It was at the first coming and it has to be at the second coming. Youíll find that at The Spirit of Prophecy. There is to be a preparation of Godís people for His coming. Do you agree with that? Now, He is going to send His messenger to do it. Do you see that? Thatís what it says here. .... ďAnd the Lord whom you seek shall suddenly come to His templeĒ. Now listen, you have thought about that in terms of the temple in heaven, where Christ entered to become the mediator.


(A man in the audience) In 1844?


(Wilfred) Both in the beginning and at 1844. But he entered here now in 1844 to cleanse the temple. Right? Thatís the way you think of it. And that is correct. That is absolutely correct. He is going there to cleanse the temple. But did you know that the true tabernacle is two other things? Not just one, two. I donít know where it is just now, but Iíll get it if anybody wants it. You got it?


(A man in the audience) The Jewish tabernacle was a type of the Christian Church, the church on earth was composed of those who are faithful and loyal to God is the true tabernacle whereof the Redeemer is the minister. God and not man pitched this tabernacle on of a high elevated platform. This tabernacle is Christís body and from north, south, east, and west, He gathers those who shall help to compose it. A holy tabernacle is built up of those who receive Christ as their personal savior. Christ is the minister of the true tabernacle, the high priest



of all who believe in Him as a personal savior. 7th volume of the Bible commentary, page 931.


(Wilfred) Did you all get that? Now do you see that there is another tabernacle, another temple?


(A man in the audience) Is that taken from one of her books, or is that someone else?


(Wilfred) No, No, that is Mrs. White. It is Mrs. White. No question about it.


Do you see now....? I hope to hold your attention now just for a few minutes while I finish this line of thought or Iím going to leave it in mid air and donít want to do that.


Do you see that there is another tabernacle, another temple, into whom Christ is going to come to dwell? (The Temple is the drawing place of Christ). The Bible bears that out. Ye are the temple of God, built up a habitation of God through the Spirit; ye are the temple of the Holy Ghost. Right? Alright, now what kind of a temple has God got right now, a clean one or a dirty one? Have the sins be transferred to the Temple through the decisions of the individual and the confession of sin. Parallel doesnít fully hold with all respect. But listen, when you sin what happens to it? It is recorded in your Tabernacle. Now, before we are fit for the Kingdom of Heaven what has to be done?


The temple has to be cleansed. And Sister White says the while the temple is being cleansed in heaven there is a parallel work going in the earth. Do you see it? The temple of the Holy Ghost has to be cleansed. Now here is the messenger of the covenant coming suddenly to His temple. I told you about new flashes of truth. I told you about how that you canít exhaust a single passage of scripture, how that there are other meanings, and we canít say, that just because we have looked at this way all these years that it canít mean anything else. I read that to you because I didnít want you contradicting me when I read this now. But I want to point out to you here that the messenger that comes suddenly to His temple is the Holy Ghost. Coming to the temple of the Lord, His body. Do you follow me?


Now, I have other texts to prove that, but right now I havenít time to give them to you. And whatís He going to do? He says He is the messenger of the covenant. I can read to you from The Spirit of Prophecy that as the finger of Christ wrote the Ten Commandments on two tables of stone Sinai, so the Holy Spirit will write the law on the tables of the heart according to the terms of the New Covenant.


Now, the messenger of the covenant, the one who comes to deliver the covenant to Godís people is the Holy Spirit. He is going to come to His temple suddenly, suddenly. The latter rain when it comes my friend is going to come suddenly. And one is going to receive it, and the person sitting next to him isnít going to know


that it happened. That is how it is going to happen. He is going to come suddenly to His temple. One shall be taken and another left, but God knows where His saints are. And the Spirit is going to come to His saints and we are going to talk about what we have to do to qualify.


Upon whom God is going to pour His Spirit? Letís read on, The messenger of the covenant whom ye delight in, Behold, He shall come saith the Lord of Hosts, but whom may abide that day of His coming?


Now, I wish I had time to back to Joel to show you that the same language is used in connection with the warning about the coming of the dreadful day of the Lord. Who may abide that day?


The day of the Lord is just ahead of us. We are not ready for it. The messenger of the covenant is going to come suddenly to His temple but who can abide that day?


Why is it going to be difficult to abide the day of the coming of the messenger of the covenant. But letís read on; Who shall stand when He appearth. For he is like a refinerís fire and like a fullerís soap. Can you see what He is going to do? And how do you cleanse? Trial and tribulation. Do you see the word ďfireĒ used here? Do you remember what it said over there about John the Baptist? Baptized with water and fire.


And we are going to talk about the baptisms of Jesus too. Jesus was baptized, I think three times if I remember right. Once with water, and He had some other baptisms. And we are going to be baptized, and I can read you that in The Spirit of Prophecy. We are going to be baptized again, with the baptisms of Jesus and the fire. Why? Because we need to be cleansed. The sanctuary has to be cleansed. Cleansed by the sprinkling of blood. We are going to explain that. I never understood that until one day God gave it to me. And I saw it. And as I look through the books I wonder why I hadnít seen it before. Itís there. We are going to be cleansed by the sprinkling of blood. Alright, and He shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver and He shall purify the sons of Levi, and purify them as gold and silver. That they may offer unto the Lord... What? In what? An offering in righteousness. Well, there you have it.


And over in Revelation chapter 3 our favorite message to Godís people, Heís got it in there too. He says, In verse 19, As many as I love, I rebuke; and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Now listen, I wish I had time to you the rest since I got started on it, but I havenít, I hate to leave you at this point because there is a complete composite unit of thought involved with this concept and the passages are all available.


When you ask the Lord to purify and cleanse you, to make you pure and holy, do you know what you are asking for. Youíre asking for the fire. Are you ready to


take it? Now, the only way you are going to make it is to let Him give you a little bit and you survive that. Then He gives you a little more, and you survive that. When it gets too hot and you canít take it, you tell Him, Lord I canít take it. Do you know what He will do? Heíll turn it off. Heíll back off.


(A man in the audience) He will not tempt you above what you can bear.


(Wilfred) Not beyond what you can bear. So, hang on, hang on in there and donít ever let go.


(A man in the audience) Do we have to tell God that?


(Wilfred) No, you donít really have to tell God that. But sometimes, you know how weak we are.


And I have discovered in my own personal experience that my God is a God of love. I found that out, He is kind, He is merciful, He is thoughtful, He looks upon us as children, but whenever we back off we are letting Him down. You see, He wants to finish this thing out, because Heís suffering too, believe it or not. And until we are through with sin He will not be released from His position as mediator and sin bearer. He has committed Himself to the priesthood forever. And itís no wonder that He had a hard time in Gethsemane making up His mind about that. Thatís why He sweats great drops of blood, because He was making an eternal commitment to stand good for you and me forever. That was His commitment. Thatís part of The Everlasting Covenant. Thatís part of the sacrifice. He staked His whole future on the principle of His love being delivered to you through the terms of The Everlasting Covenant by God the Father the administrator of His last will and testament delivering that Holy Spirit to you. That Spirit of eternal life the belonged to Jesus it was His personal possession. That the Father should give that to you a sinner instead of giving it to His son who deserved it.


Christ gave up His life that it might be given to you so that you might have the divine nature that He had to enable you to live without sin. And only when you cooperate by deciding not to sin can it be accomplished. And only when you do that and refuse to sin will He be released from His position as priest. And only when His people, a hundred and forty four thousand of them, (whether you believe that is literal or not), only when those people come to that point where they have done with sin can He lay down His robs and say, It is done, and let the devil prove whether He is right or wrong. And when it has been proved He shuts it off. There is so much more, there is more to it, much more. There is the marriage of the Lamb to the saints that takes place before the close of probation. The head becomes reunited with the new body. Because, you see, His body was broken, thatís what he said, in the very last supper He taught the last lesson to His disciples before He made that irrevocable decision. He said, My body is



going to be broken for you. And you are going to eat it and my blood is going to be shed for you and you are going to drink it (and we will explain what this means but not tonight). But that is the only way you have internal life, I will read you that lest you think Iím stretching things. It is in John chapter 6 verse 53.


ďVerily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood; ye have no life in you.Ē....Is that plain? Can you doubt that? .... ďWhoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.Ē.... And weíve got other texts that we have to refer that to get the completion to that, but it is referring to the communion service. .... ďAs the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.ĒAnd a little further down, verse 60; ďMany therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, ďThis is a hard saying; who can hear it?Ē No wonder. Can you take it? Does it make sense to you?


(A man in the audience) Unintelligible.


(Wilfred) Well, we hope we make sense out of it before we get through. ďWhen Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, ďDoth this offend you? ď ďWhat and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?Ē ďIt is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.Ē What body was He talking about here that you have eat and what blood was He talking about that you have to drink?


(A woman in the audience) Was He talking about His life (?).


(Wilfred) Yes.


(A man in the audience) It wasnít His human life because He still retains that.


(Wilfred) It wasnít His human physical body thatís for sure. Because He is living in that and the blood was spilled at Calvary, right?


(Another man in the audience) The nature of His experience helps purify us and every time we eat the bread and drink the blood it is indeed a symbol of our edification of the covenant and as we become purified and when we finally get our minds or our temples purified, the sealing of God takes place in our foreheads, the forehead is the part of the brain, the cortex, where we think and this is where the seat of the will is which then determines the inhibitions against wrong....


(Wilfred) But what was he trying to bring out here by saying you have to eat my flesh and drink my blood.



(Many in the audience trying to speak at once) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) Well, it would take me awhile to explain it and if I did just tell you youíre liable to have a question in your mind about it. But there is only one other body that Christ had, there is only one other blood He had, before He came to this earth. Did it ever occur to you that He was a living being from eternity and that He had a tremendous body, in fact it was so bright that when Moses asked Him to show him His glory, the Lord had to hide Moses when He went by or it would have killed him.


Now, I donít know the mysteries of that body, but I know that it had many characteristics, because when Moses asked Him to show him His glory, the first thing the Lord did was to reiterate His characteristics. Abundant in mercy and goodness, you know? He gave all the characteristics of God. So, that at least is one of the aspects of the body of God of His original heritage that He is going to deliver to His saints. You are going to have the characteristics of that body. You understand that? Now it had certain characteristics omnipotence, omniscience, and all the rest of it.


Do you realize that Jesus said, that He received His life from the Father, What do you say Brother Johnson, It says that He had in him life unborrowed and underived, that is what Mrs. White said. But have you read in the Bible where it says from His own mouth; As the Father has life in Himself so hath He given the son to have life in himself. Where did the son get His life in Himself from? If the Bible is true, if Jesus spoke the truth, He got it from His Father. Where does the Son get His life anyway? Do you realize that Jesus Christ received the scepter of authority from His Father? Thatís in The Desire of Ages. Before He came into this world, here is what He said; He gave back the scepter into the hands of the Father. Do you know what that word ďbackĒ meansĒ?


(A man in the audience) Unintelligible.


And in The Story of Redemption God called a counsel of all the angels and He bestowed special honor on His Son. The Story of Redemption the very first few pages. And thatís one of the things that got Luciferís goat. He didnít like that. Why should the Son receive all this honor, and Lucifer wasnít receiving any. It didnít go over.


Now what I am trying to show you is something that has to do with The Everlasting Covenant again. Before Christ could come to this world in that tiny little seed in Maryís womb, He had to relinquish the body that He lived in. And He had to relinquish the life that He had in that body. Now, as Adam, when he died gave up the ghost as, is it Jacob or Joseph it says in the Bible, He gave up the ghost as Jesus on the cross, He gave up the ghost. When you die you give up the ghost. What does that mean? The breath of life, where did it come from? Where does it go? Where did Christ get his life in Himself from? From His Father.


Where did it go when He laid down that life?


(A man in the audience) Back to the Father.


(Wilfred) Back to the Father. But before He laid down His life to come in that little seed He made His last will and testament stipulating what was to be done with all the heritage the Father had given Him. The Father didnít take it, the Father had bestowed it all on the son and had made Him equal in authority with Himself, says so in The Story of Redemption, thatís exactly what it says. And that the angels should accept the word of the Son as the word of the Father. Thatís exactly what it says. So the Son decided on His own free will what He was going to do to save man. And He laid down His life. There is a heavenly sanctuary you know. And the last will and testament which was an agreement between Christ and His Father on behalf of man stipulated that that life that He laid down was to be given to His people. And I am going to show you from the Bible and The Spirit of Prophecy that that life comes in the form of the Holy Ghost. The life that goes when a man dies goes back to God who gave it. What is left after a man dies? Dust. And if you ever see him after he dies, what do you call it?


(Man in the audience) A ghost.


(Wilfred) Did it ever occur to you that the word ďHoly GhostĒ never appears in the Old Testament? It doesnít appear until the New Testament. The Spirit of life, the Spirit of eternal life which gave life to the Spiritual body of Christ that He existed in before He came into this world, that life is what He shed. The Bible tells me that the life is in the blood. That the blood is the symbol of the life. When you shed the blood you are shedding the life. Jesus Christ shed His blood, His life so that you could have it.


Desire of Ages, He took the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which was His. Am I getting the point across?


And He told His disciples, now look, Iíve got to go away. At any time up to that point He could have gone back to His Father and become the same being He was before. You follow? He was down here voluntarily, all along the way. But in Gethsemane He made the decision that He was going to become our eternal surety, forever.And He told his disciples I am going away. And that has more than one meaning. And He says; But I am not going to leave you, not comfortless, Iím going to come to you, and He explained how He was going to come, through the Holy Spirit. And He explained how the Holy Spirit was to come and from where. He said, Iím going to pray the Father and He will send you the Holy Spirit. Now, do you get the picture?


Here is Christ who decided what to do with His eternal life. He made the agreement and appointed the Father as executor of His estate, His last will and testament. And He said, Father will you accept this covenant, and will you give


my Spirit to those who accept Me as their personal Savior? Even though they are sinners, will you do it? And the Father agreed to the covenant. But after Jesus came forth from the tomb, and this was a terrible, traumatic experience, Iwonít even touch it. But after He came forth from the tomb, He told Mary not to touch him. Why?


(Man in the audience) He said; I have not yet ascended to the Father to see if He accepted my sacrifice.


(Wilfred) Thatís it, thatís it. He wanted the assurance from His Father that the Father would send that Spirit to Mary. That was the upper most thing that was the thing. If the Father couldnít do that. If the Father couldnít bring Himself to put His Spirit on that bunch of sinners that the Lord left here on this world to carry His message, everything is lost. Look at that crowd of disciples He had there just before He went to the cross. Did you ever take a look at them? What kind if people were they? Very good candidates for the out pouring of the all power of the Holy Ghost werenít they? Can you see why Jesus was concerned? Is this it? Is that what I gave my life for? Will the Father take that? Well, He did.


(A man in the audience) Was the Holy Spirit functional prior to the ascension of Christ?


(Wilfred) O yes. Jesus was the first recipient of the Holy Ghost as the head of the new body. It was the Holy Ghost that initiated His life as a human being; it was the Holy Ghost that was His anointing at His baptism to make Him the Messiah, when He received all power. That is, by a choice He could have used all His former power on His own behalf.


(A man in the audience) Was it in action prior to the birth of Christ?


(Wilfred) Yes.

(A man in the audience) You say He was the first recipient though.


(Wilfred) Yes. In that particular sense.


(A man in the audience) The Holy Spirit had a different function.


(Wilfred) Yes. The Holy Spirit had several functions.


(Another man in the audience) Doesnít it talk in the Bible about the Seven Spirits?


(Wilfred) Yes. It does, it talks about the seven spirits. But the Holy Spirit, I donít know whether I should get into this, because the trinity is a mystery, but you probably notice that you never hear of the Holy Spirit spoken as a separate entity


in the Old Testament. I havenít found it. If you can find it I would like to see it. It may be there. It always talks about the Spirit of God. And Sister White used that term ďThe Spirit of GodĒ in the sense of The Spirit of Kindness, the Spirit of love, you know. She uses it in that sense.


(A man in the audience) Or the Spirit of the Lord.


(Wilfred) And, in the counsel back there in the beginning she never.


(The End of C/D #18 and beginning of C/D 19)


Now, I am in just a bit of difficulty because of some of you having heard quite a bit and some of you having heard very little. So it is a bit difficult for me to just carry on directly from where we were. However I donít want to repeat everything we have done before, that wouldnít be fair to the ones who have been with us and at the same time if I donít give a little bit of information for the back ground it wouldnít be fair for those who havenít been with us. So, let me just say a few words first.


Last week we read a few statements, certainly not all that are given, but a few, to verify that thought that in spite of the fact that all the truth necessary to bring us through to the Kingdom of Heaven has been given, there is still much more truth to come. Now without reading the statements, if you can accept that and if you would like to have the verification you could check with me afterwards and I would read some of these. Any of you who may have missed that. Also, in each generation God has a special truth and a special work, We have always thought of ourselves as being the last generation and our people have thought of themselves as being that for the last hundred and thirty years which his more than a generation.


Back in 1856 there was a conference at which Sister White made this statement; That some of the folks at in that conference were going to be food for worms, that meant that they were going to die, some of them were going to be subjects of the seven last plagues, that means they were going to live after probation and go through the plagues, and some of them were going to, I hope Iíve got that right now, go through to be translated.


(A woman in the audience) Unintelligible.


(Wilfred) They are all dead now. The reason Iím referring to that is that we are a new generation. Right? Letís not worry about the problem involved with that quotation right now, weíll think about that maybe sometime in the future, But we all agree that we are a new generation now if are a new generation and she says here in Christís Object Lessons page 78 in my book, but may be a little bit one way or the other in your edition. ďFor His church in every generation God has a



special truth and a special work.Ē .... On page 129 she says; .... ďIn every age there is a new development of truth, a message of God to the people ofthat generation. The old truths are all essential; new truth is not independent of the old, but an unfolding of it.


Great Controversy page 609 she say; ďDifferent periods in the history of the church have each been marked by the development of some special truth, adapted to the necessities of God's people at that time. Every new truth has made its way against hatred and opposition; those who were blessed with its light were tempted and tried. But the Lord gives a special truth for the people in an emergency.Ē


Now, I donít suppose I have to prove to you that the church is in an emergency situation today, but if I do Iíll do it, but I may not do it right now. Maybe you donít believe that. But way back in the eighteen hundreds Sister White said that we could have been in the Kingdom, and here it is in 1976 and weíre not there yet. If that isnít an emergency I donít know what it is. And the world situation is rapidly deteriorating. So, something has got to happen to change our lackadaisical, Laodicean, lukewarmness. Right? And what is it that is going to happen? Well, I just read it to you, But Iím going to, if you stay with us give you considerable more information on that from the Bible and from The Spirit of Prophecy to indicate that God has an expansion of truth that is relative to our situation right now, which is going to be pertinent in the concluding of His work. Is that logical? And there will be many voices raise in chorus to focus on that message. I could read you that too. In any case, here we are a few individuals digging into the book.


She says in Christís Object Lesson again on page 112; ďNo one can search the Scriptures in the spirit of Christ without being rewarded. When man is willing to be instructed as a little child, when he submits wholly to God, he will find the truth in His word. If men would be obedientĒ... Notice that condition ... ďIf men would be obedient they would understand the plan of God's government. The heavenly world would open its chambers of grace and glory for exploration. Human beings would be altogether different from what they now are, for by exploring the mines of truth men would be ennobled. The mystery of the redemption...the mystery of) the incarnation of ChristĒ.... Note that one, because we are going to be talking about it...: the mystery of...His atoning sacrifice, note that one, because we are going to talking about it, she says these mysteries would not be as they are now, vague in our minds.Ē.... That means we donít understand them very well, their fuzzy. .... ďThey would be not only better understood, but altogether more highly appreciated.Ē


What I am trying to point out is, for the benefit of those who havenít been with us. We can expect that a clearer understanding of the mystery of redemption, the incarnation of Christ, and his atoning sacrifice, which are all related to the plan of salvation which has not yet culminated. And that is the reason we arenít in the


Kingdom, a clearer understanding of these things is due right now, so thatthe Lord can finish this thing off. I also brought out last day, and I must repeat these because it is important that we understand this.


The words of Christ are truth, but they have a deeper significance than appears on the surface. All the sayings of Christ have a value beyond their unpretending appearance. Minds that are quickened by the Holy Spirit will discern the value of these sayings. They will discern the precious gems of truth though these may be buried treasures. Thatís on page 108, Christís Object Lessons.


Now the pages are a little different in the regular edition, this is the subscription edition. These are older quotations I dug up quite a few years ago.


(A woman in the audience) Is there a page number for that one that says, If men would be obedient they would understand the plan of God's government.


(Wilfred) Yes. Iím sorry. 112. I think most of these are in one chapter, itís called, Things New and Old or Old and New or something like that. But there are others scattered throughout the book.


That quotation indicates that we can expect to find meaning in the words of Christ that go beyond the things that we have thought of in days gone by, thatís what it says. And lest we get a little disturbed at a thought like that.


Let me read one or two more, and then Iíll close off this part of it.


This is from the Review and Herald Dec. 20, 1892. ďThere is no excuse for anyone in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people is not a proof that our ideas are infallible....No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation.Ē


In other words, she is suggesting that it is possible that we may have made a mistake and have to change our minds on some things. I havenít come across any of those things yet, Iíll let you know right away. But there may be some that will show up sooner or later.


Education page 171; ďIt is impossible for any human mind to exhaust even one truth or promise of the BibleĒ ... You canít exhaust a single truth or a promise in the Bible. If you canít do that then it means that there are more things that are in there than what you have seen. Is that not right? She says; ... ďOne catches the glory from one point of view, another from another point;Ē ... In other words I can see it one way and you could see it another way from that same promise and that same truth, and both of us can be right. My point here is that let us not get quibbly and quarrely when people express something that we canít see or agree


with. Letís not get on our high horse and think that we have it and they are wrong, thatís the human way. It always pays to be humble. Accept what the other person gives tentatively, maybe put it on a shelve if there is no way of resolving it, but check it with the word, check it with The Spirit of Prophecy, think about for a while and see if possibly there may be some light in it. And even if there isnít maybe that individual has a way of looking at it that is different from yours because of his or her background and he may be perfectly correct in his interpretation and you just may not be able to see it.


Ok. Thereís another one, Review and Herald Mar. 18, 1890; ďTo say that a passage means just this and nothing more, that you must not attach any broader meaning to the words of Christ than we have in the past, this is saying that which is not actuated by the Spirit of God.Ē .... In other words, if we come to the conclusion that a certain passage doesnít mean anything more than what we have interpreted to mean. Well, thatís what it means you see. Thatís what it says, and thatís what it means. Weíve always believe that and it doesnít mean anything else. Anybody that makes a statement like that is not speaking under the inspiration of the Spirit of God. That is what this statement says. He is saying that the view he holds at the present time of that particular passage is the correct view and there is no other view. He is closing Godís word and shutting it off in he own mind. When God says it will continue to expand like an ever flowing fountain. Well, there is more here but I donít want to read those at this point. It warns against being too bigoted of other view points.


Alright now, I think we will go on to the subject of the covenant, The Everlasting Covenant. What do you understand The Everlasting Covenant to be? What ideas have you about that covenant? Could we collect a few?


(A woman in the audience) The covenant has to write the law in our heart.


(Wilfred) The covenant has to write the law in the heart. Well, actually the covenant doesnít do it. What is the covenant?


(Many in the audience speak together) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) Itís an agreement. Who made the agreement?


(A woman in the audience) God and Christ.


(Wilfred) The Father and the Son. And what was the agreement about?


(A woman in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) The salvation of man. And she says it goes beyond that.


(A man in the audience) To save the whole universe.


(Wilfred) To save the whole universe. For the security of the whole universe. Otherwise it could have deteriorated, unless God had taken away the freedom of choice which He wouldnít do. Now, God recognized the problem He was bringing into existence by creating beings with freedom of choice. He recognized it and made provision for it. The Everlasting Covenant is just what it says it is. Itís an everlasting covenant that is going to last forever, it will never be abrogated. But when did it start in the other direction? Well, according to the books, the provision was made even before sin came. The covenant is the outgrowth of the very character of God. And Godís character has always be the same, thatís what He says. He has been the same yesterday, today, and forever. There has been no change in the character of God. And by virtue of His character He could not create free will beings without making provision for their eternal life. But when He created a free will being He created the possibility for sin. The possibility that the being would choose to go contrary to the law which I have already explained was absolutely necessary. You canít have peace and security among a group of will beings unless each of those beings is willing to think in terms of what his actions will do to the other members of the group. If he does just as he pleases anytime he wants to he can really raise cane in any society. And that is precisely what the devil has done, precisely.


There are many things in here and I donít just how many I should share at this point. But here is one you may appreciate. God created the first being and made him the top. He made him as nearly as possible like himself, Mrs. White says. God gave Him everything He could give him as a created being, next to His Son, who was not a created being. Nobody can complain the God didnít shower and share all His blessings upon His first created being. Nobody can complain about that. But God knew that that fellow was going to fall, He knew that before He created Him. Now, I could read you this. Itís not all in one place, but youíll find most of the things about Lucifer in The Story of Redemption, Patriarchs and Prophets, Great Controversy, and other things are scattered throughout other books where she just incidentally brings in a point. But I have the statements to verify what I have said so far, only I donít have them all in one place unfortunately. There is a tremendous amount of material that we have in our storehouse of truth. Itís just so big that itís almost impossible to wade through it. Unless you have a lifetime of leisure and just devote yourself to it.


But letís get the essentials, the point is this; That God couldnít give Lucifer any more than He had given him to reveal His generosity, His kindness, and the nature of His character of self renouncing love. He could not have done any more for Lucifer than He did. He let Lucifer in on the understanding of His character and His government, he was sort of a ďPrime MinisterĒ, the light bearer, and he was the one through whom the inner understandings of the universe were delivered to the rest of the angels. He was a light bearer. He was in command, but he assumed to himself more command than was His right. You see, the Son of God was above him, and, in order to make sure that he understood this, God


called a counsel one time back there, and you can read this in the first chapter of The Story of Redemption, and bestowed special honor upon His Son in front of all the angels including Lucifer. And this became a test of Luciferís willingness to abide by the law of God. Now, when I am talking about the law of God at this stage I am not talking about the Ten Commandments, I am talking about the basic law of God. The principles of His character which He delineated to Moses there on the mountain. It was a principle of love, long suffering, abundant in goodness, mercy, and truth, these are the principles. But in the middle of all that you have this application, the principle of humility, and exaltation, or humility and pride. These two elements. Now, God gives every one of His creatures a test, and here was Luciferís test. Could he accept the fact that he wasnít as big as Christ? That he had to stay in his position, he had to accept the principle of humility and submission. God after all was a self-denying God, Lucifer didnít recognize this. And maybe the universe didnít recognize it, maybe they hadnít even thought about it. But when Lucifer decided he wasnít going to go Godís way it came out in the open and they could make a decision on it as to whether they wanted to or not. But anyway, Lucifer didnít like this so pride was born in his heart. And then with pride, instead of taking himself in hand and humbling himself he permitted pride to have its way and it lead to covetousness. He wanted to be like God, he didnít want to be left out in the cold so to speak. Why hadnít he been honored the same as the Son had been? Itís all described there in The Story of Redemption.


Well, what comes before a fall according to the Bible? Pride. And Lucifer was on his way down. He refused to submit to the law of God. That is the basis of the universal kingdom, the law of God. There is no way that you can have eternal life in the Kingdom of Heaven and not respect the law of God. And that doesnít mean just respect it just because you have to and for quite a while that what Lucifer did, he pretended that he respected the law, but he didnít underneath. And he began to subversively indoctrinate the angels with suspicion of Godís character, after all he wants us to submit to Him, He wants to give all the orders, He doesnít even keep His own law, how can we tell that He is a humble individual, that He is one who will deny Himself, prove that, he hasnít proved it. Now do you see the reason that Jesus came and was born in a stable and was wrapped in swaddling clothes in a manger, do you see? Or does it make sense?


(A man in the audience) Canít get much lower.


(Wilfred) Canít get much lower. The great God of the universe at one time was nothing more than one tiny little single human cell in the womb of Mary. Could you get much lower, as a personal being? There wouldnít be anything left if you got any lower than that, there wouldnít be any being there at all. Tremendous!


Well, for once and for all God demonstrated that He kept His own law. And He also demonstrated that when a person is humble then He can honor Him. Now



you say, ok. Sure, Jesus was born and He was raised up and He became translated and went to Glory. And He is setting on the right hand of His Father in Heaven where He used to be.


(A man in the audience) But not like He used to be.


(Wilfred) Not like He used to be, No. But He is there. Heís got the same position back there. So what? What happened to Lucifer? Well, heís tumbling down yet. But heís going to end up in another thousand years in the lake of fire, and pretty soon he wouldnít be. He will be as though he had not been. Heís going to go. And Sister White says that the redeemed from the earth will take the places of those who fell.


Do you see what that means? Somebody is going to follow the pattern but not quite get to the same place Jesus got, see. But somebody is going to take the place Lucifer left, and you can be sure he is going to go through the same mill or a similar mill as Jesus went through. Not in every respect, but in the respect of humility and submission to Godís law. Itís going to be somebody who really respects Godís law, no question about that.


But somebody is going to be there. Letís make a little more to our point. Here we are a group of people, what are the prospects according to The Everlasting Covenant for us? Would you like to read it? Our favorite message, a message which we really should have memorized by now because it is Godís message to the remnant church.


(A woman in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) O yes, but I was talking about this principle of Godís law and the position and the hierarchy at this particular point. Itís Revelation chapter 3, some of you know it already, Iím sure.


And the Laodicean message starts, verse 21, and because the microphone is here Iíll read it, so it goes on the tape, ďTo him that overcometh will I grant toĒ.... do what? .... ďsit with meĒ.... Whoís talking? Christ and where is He going to sit? my throne. Now if you wonder just what that means He goes right on to explain it.... ďeven as I also overcame, and am set downĒ.... ďWhere? .... ďwith my Father in His throne.Ē


Now look, in the same way that Jesus is set down with His Father in His throne, you may be set down with Christ in His throne. Well, what is his throne? What does it say?


(Many voices in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) Heís sitting where?


(Several voices in the Audience) On His Fatherís throne.


(Wilfred) And if you are going to sit down with Him in His throne where are you going to be sitting? The same place arenít you? Whatís a throne? A seat of authority, a seat of government. What does the throne do or the person sits on it?


(A man in the audience) Rules.


(Wilfred) How do you rule? What is it that you do when you rule?


(A woman in the audience) Make laws.


(Wilfred) Make laws, thatís right. Why do you make laws?


(A man in the audience) For the good of the Kingdom.


(Wilfred) For the good of the kingdom. You set forth rules, regulations, laws, counsel, oh yes, we mustnít forget that. Godís Kingdom is not like ours you see. This little child that was born back there, Isaiah 9:6; ďUnto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given, and the government shall be upon His shoulders,Ē.... you see, Heís going to sit on that throne ... ďand His name shall be called Wonderful, and there is a good reason for that, Counselor,Ē .... not dictator, .... ďCounselor,Ē.... He doesnít sayďLook, do thisĒ, itís going to be counsel, thatís the kind of governor He is. He is a mild ruler. I think I read you that last week, or some place I read it from Mount of Blessing... ďThe Mighty God,Ē.... He is going to be called. Well, do you see the connection between Revelation 3:20? Heís sitting in His Fathers throne, Heís going to be called the Mighty God, because that what He is. And He is going to be called, and this next one is a little harder,


(A man in the audience) The Everlasting Son.


(Wilfred) Not the Everlasting Son, it says, ďthe Everlasting Father.Ē Could He be exalted any higher than that? Did God keep His own law?


(A woman in the audience) Yes.


(Wilfred) And the next statement, ďThe Prince of Peace.Ē Thatís the aim of the government of God. Peace. And that is the heritage that Jesus left with His disciples, ďMy peace I give unto you.Ē Now, what does it say is going to happen to us then, if we overcome as He overcame?


(A man in the audience) We will share His government.


(Wilfred) We will share His Government. Thatís right. Itís going to take a character that is patterned after the character of Christ. Anybody that does not have a character like that cannot handle that particular situation. Itís got to be a



character that can be trusted. And you can see that the characters that are going to be sitting in that throne, who are going to be overcomes out of the last remnant church, those characters are going to have to be characters that can be trusted, or they can never sit on that throne. You couldnít put Lucifer there, he could have gone there if heíd behaved himself, but he didnít. He was too self-centered. He wanted more for himself. What kind of people are these folks going to be?


(A woman in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) Self-sacrificing,


(A woman in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) You are speaking a very, very, important truth. That is absolutely true. The character of Christ will have to be perfectly reflected in His people before He can come and claim them. Because He couldnít put them into that position if they werenít, and the degree of overcoming is expressed there. The way that Jesus overcame, thatís the way that these people will overcome. If they donít they wonít be sharing that throne in that way.


(A woman in the audience) Does that mean the method for His overcoming?


(Wilfred) Thatís a good question. I guess I put those quotation away, do you remember that one that I read? One of them was; all the words of Jesus have a deeper meaning. Another one was; One sees it from one point, one see it from another point, Another one was; That If we think that it means just this a nothing more than what we said for so long weíre are not saying that that was actuated by the Holy Spirit. Now putting those things together, does that answer your question?


(A woman in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) Then Iíll answer it. It means both.


(A woman in the audience) Ok.


(Wilfred) The Bible is full of that type of language. Thatís why I like the King James Version incidentally. But donít tell everybody that. Some people are very much hung-up on certain versions. I like the King James Version, I think that God had His angels and His Spirit and I donít know what other tools He had there guiding this people that were translating that book. And Iím not saying that there is no mistake in it, I wonít say that, but there is no mistake in that book that is of any consequence, God saw to it that it was stated it just the way He wanted it stated. And in many places you will find that the meaning applies at a certain



time at a certain way, and at another time, lo and behold, it shows up with another meaning and it is just as logical, but it fits that situation 100%. So, it is present truth.


(A woman in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) What I was trying to say is that some of these modern translations completely destroy that principle.


(A woman in the audience) I guess thatís what the commentary is for because sometimes the old English stumps us the way they put their words together, doesnít it?


(Wilfred) I understand, yes. The translators lived a few centuries ago, not very many centuries, but quite a while ago, and the old English is a little different. Unless you know the meaning of the word as it was used in their day you can get stumped. But here again, there are places where that word as it meant in those days delivers a certain meaning to the text. But if you take it as the word means today it delivers another meaning that makes equal sense. In other places, it doesnít. There is only one way you can really be sure that you are understanding the word correctly and that is to take the whole Bible to compare it with all the other things that bear on that same topic, and see if it fits. And there is nothing, nothing that surpasses The Spirit of Prophecy to help you understand what is really does mean. There is nothing like it. If you are in doubt, go to The Spirit of Prophecy. If you canít find anything there youíll just have to bide your time until the Lord directs you thinking to see it clearly and sharply. And invariably if it is the truth there will other minds that will sooner or later see it also. But, you may stand alone awhile, in you interpretation. And if you do, it pays not to agitate things too much, unless it is a very important point.


Now, where was I?




(A man in the audience) Will this group that is given a position of leadership, is this to remain through all ages or just the ones that are alive at this time?


(Wilfred) The Laodicean church is the last church. So, who would it be?


(A woman in the audience) They lived in the time of the Laodicean church?


(Wilfred) Yes, if you really want to get a little more on it you can find it Testimonies for the Church vol. 5. The chapter entitled ďJoshua and the AngelĒitís number 32. You will find there, starting about page 467, but as you get further in to it, you will come closer down to the end, she describes very clearly the condition of these people and the experience they go through. I would like to take


time to go through it but I had thought to do The Everlasting Covenanttonight, and maybe we should stick with that and come back and do this sometime later. But she describes these people and the condition and the experience that they go through and the outcome. She calls them, ďThe hundred and forty four thousandĒ. And Iíll read you just the last sentence of the whole chapter; ďAnd it shall come to passĒ ... She is quoting the scriptures ...Ēthat he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem shall be called holy even everyone that is written among the living in Jerusalem.Ē Jerusalem is the church, and those who are left alive at that time are all going to be holy. But the whole chapter is an amazing chapter, tremendous. And Iíll deal with it again, but not tonight.


Now, weíve covered this little principle, or a big principle of humility versus exaltation and Godís plan of bringing up His children. Just think of all these little tiny things that have been wiggling around in the world, you know, we call them kids, down through the years. Out of that bunch of little live wires every once in a while somebody pops up that makes a mark in history.


God has this thing all under control; He is working out a program. He is building a Kingdom, and when He is finished He is going to unite all of those who fit into the program into a union. Not a labor union, no, not labor union. And when it is all been finished, this is as the third angels message is closing and probation is closing, she says; ďHe that is unjust, let him be unjust still, and he which is filthy, and let him be filthy still, and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still, and he that is holy, let him be holy still.Ē That the declaration at the end of probationary time. Right? Iím reading from page 280 of Early Writings. She says that; ďEvery case had been decided for life or death. And while Jesus had been ministering in the sanctuary the judgment had been going on for the righteous dead and then for the righteous living.Ē.... Now listen ...ĒChrist had received His kingdom having made the atonement for His people and blotted out their sins. The subjects of the kingdom were made up.ĒÖ So all these people who come up through the mill, theyíve all gone through their experience, theyíve all been trained, theyíve all built their characters, now they are ready. The number is completed. Then,.. ďthe marriage of the Lamb was consummatedĒ.... And weíre going to talk about that....ďThe Kingdom and the greatest of the Kingdom under the whole heaven were given to Jesus and the heirs of salvationĒ.... Now, to whom is the Kingdom given?


(Many voices in the audience respond) Unintelligible.


(Wilfred) All right. You see, it says that Christ had received His Kingdom; just a couple of sentences before that, did you notice that? And now it says; The Kingdom was given to Jesus and the heirs of salvation. Did you get the point? What does Jesus do with the Kingdom that He receives? He shares it, Heís got those people who are coming with Him to sit on His throne, see? Then Jesus was to reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, and I already pointed out to you that His reign is a counseling. He is going to have a hundred and forty four


thousand kings on His throne sharing His government. Now I donít know whether one is going to be in charge of one section of the universe and another one in charge of another section of the universe, or how this thing is going to work, it doesnít matter to me. All Iím trying to do is point out to you that God is fair in His analysis of a situation and His development and His working of it out. He has a law that He cannot abrogate, it has to be kept. If somebody is going to transgress that law he has two choices either repent and accept the provisions of the covenant be instated to everlasting life or accept eternal death. Heís got those two choices. Anyone who is willing to accept the law of God and accept the Lord Jesus as King of Kings, which Lucifer didnít want to, he wanted to be it himself, anyone willing to do that, is accepted for eternal life. And the question of his getting rid of sin and overcoming sin and being able to live the life of Jesus that is a part of the provision of The Everlasting Covenant. There is provision in the covenant that was made between Jesus and His father to bring this about in anybody who will accept Jesus as King of Kings and Savior.


Now, what is that provision? How does it work? Shall we plow into it? I think weíve all been at one of the places where I read The Everlasting Covenant in Hebrews, remember the four points that were brought out in the covenant. Letís run through them.


1. It provides that the law of God be written in the heart.


2. It provides for the restoration of the Kingdom of God. That is, He will be to us a God, and we will be to Him a people. We accept the King-subject relationship. We acknowledge Him as King. This is a voluntary thing. Not until Godís people have voluntarily agreed to accept Him as Savior and His law as the guiding rule of life is the Kingdom restored in that individual. And Jesus says plainly that the kingdom of God or Kingdom of Heaven is within you. It is not a thing that is on the outside, itís inside. When that law is written in the heart then that Kingdom is restored, because you are then in harmony with the law of God.


3. We shall know the Lord; everybody is going to know the Lord. That is, they are going to know His character, that the most important thing about Him.


(A woman in the audience) Is that a blanket statement? Everybody thatís living on the earth?


(Wilfred) Everybody who accepts the covenant. Because itís the covenant that provides for it. And you can reject it.


4. And Finally, His is going to be merciful to those and forgive their unrighteousness and forgive their sins, and He is going to forget them. And if He is going to forget them, you might as well forget them too. Donít be hung-up on a bunch of guilt and remorse and worry about what people think of you or what theyíre going to think and all the rest of it. Get rid of it. Chuck it away. He buries it


in the depths of the sea. As far as the east is from the west will your transgressions be remove, why hang on to them? He promises forgiveness, accept His forgiveness.


Now, do those things mean anything to you? Are you happy? Are you content; are you pleased that the Lord provided this for you?


(A woman in the audience) I donít know how to get hold of it.


(Wilfred) Alright, we all appreciate it and we all accept it. I had a thought and it slipped me. Hopefully it will come back. Alright, weíll move on. Iím not thinking very quickly tonight, my mind isnít functioning as rapidly as it usually does. I hope you will be patient with me. Iíll get to all these thoughts.


How did the Lord make provision for this to take place? What all does it involve? Ok, we go back to Adam. When Adam sinned, when he broke Godís law he transgressed the commandment. I canít tell you exactly what happened, but I know something happened in his chemistry, in his body. Because the Bible tells me, that because of that sin all future generations of mankind were born in iniquity, they were born in sin. Not meaning they themselves sinned before they were born or when they were born because you canít make a decision at that stage, but they were born with the consequences of a sinful nature in their body.


Now, originally they had the law in the heart. We must understand what it means ďby the heartĒ. The Bible sometimes means the mind, sometimes it means the feelings or the emotions, the way you feel about something, sometimes it means both. Sometimes it means the whole center of a man so to speak, his very core. But normally it means the feelings. Before Adam sinned the Lord had created him pure and holy. Adamís inclinations, desires and likes were in harmony with the things of God and the laws of God. There was no conflict. The things he wanted to do were the things God wanted him to do. There was only one little spot where his decision and desire might go contrary to Godís desire. Just one place where that could happen, Iím not saying that it would, it didnít have to happen, but it could. And that was that tree, remember? The tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and it is a very significant name. Because after he eats of it he found out the difference between good and evil. Which he wouldnít have found out if he hadnít eaten of it, at least not in that way.


As soon as he had sinned, now Iíll give you a little opinion here, Iíll admit that it is an opinion, but there is evidence to indicate that it is probably the correct opinion. He became afraid, the Bible says that much, thatís not an opinion. But medical science today recognizes that fear causes more illness than any other cause. Fear as a matter of fact may even be responsible for an infection which is caused

by germs and viruses because it lowers the bodyís resistance to the disease. So you catch you go down with it. The emotion of fear does something to the human organism that is detrimental to it. Now originally, fear is instilled in us, itís a gift of


God, itís an instinct designed to preserve life. It is designed to take us away from things that can be harmful. You take the little animals that function purely by instinct. They could not survive if they didnít have the fear instinct. Theyíd get catch. Even with it they donít survive, a lot of them.


Now that fear was so traumatic in the experience of Adam and because, and this is a little part of my opinion, because of his having eaten of the fruit of the tree of life his organism was endowed with terrific power, in fact it was so viral that even after sin it survived for nine hundred years. Now, with that type of power and vitality the imprint of the fear into the mechanism of his body affected the genetic process. It became written right into the chromosomes that were passed on to his posterity and it has come right on down. But since the time of Adam they have not been able to eat of the tree of life, and the human race has gradually been deteriorating. Going downhill. If God had not done that there would have been eternal sinners. But death is the release from the consequences of sin. And by taking him away from the tree of life Adam ultimately died. And the record of sin in his body died with him. But it was passed on to us. Now it was into this kind of body that Jesus came and I realize there are differences of opinion among some folks in our denomination on this point. But I think, I donít just think, I know that The Spirit of Prophecy is very clear according to my view, and the view of many other respectable theologians, teachers and students in the denomination. That Jesus did in fact take the body as it was in that time in history after four thousand years of degeneration. He accepted all the weaknesses of humanity so that the devil could tempt Him through that weakened body just the same way he tempts us. Some folks think that Jesus received the nature of humanity that Adam had before he sinned. Well, if this were true then how could Jesus be affected by temptations the same as we are? How could the devil reach Him with the same temptations through a perfect body?


(A man in the audience) He certainly got tried...


(Wilfred) Well, I can read you the statement, and I will by and by, which tell us very specifically that He accepted the sinful nature of man. And it was in this body that He overcame sin through the strength given Him from God. And weíre going to find out that the strength that was given Him from God was the strength that was delivered through the agency of the Holy Spirit, the same as it is delivered to us. It is a question of partaking of the divine nature, it was through His divinity that Jesus overcame sin, but He did it in a human body that had the deterioration of four thousand years of sin. Now, if it could be done in Jesusí body by connecting with divinity then Sister White says; ďIt can be done in us.Ē The same way, by connecting with divinity. And it is through the union of divinity

and humanity, the divine nature being combined with the human nature that Godís people are going to overcome sin. How do we get the divine nature? Well, Iím going to read you statements that will show that it comes through the agency of the Holy Spirit.



Now, Jesus died a sacrificial death and then He became a mediator in the sanctuary, a priest, a high priest. It says that He died the death which was ours that we might receive the life which was His. Desire of Ages I think it was 22 or 25, something like that.


Do you understand the sacrifice of Christ? Do you remember that I read that statement? That it is kind of hazy in our minds. How is it in yours? Is it clear cut?


(A woman in the audience) I donít understand...


(Wilfred) What is the sacrifice of Christ? Letís discuss it a little bit.


(A man in the audience) Well, He gave up something that He had before but does not have now. He gave up many things,


(Wilfred) What is the main thing He gave up?


(A woman in the audience) He gave up...... Unintelligible


(Wilfred) So He gave up what He had in heaven before Him came to this earth. Whatever He had,


(A woman in the audience) He gave up His omnipresence.


(Wilfred) His omnipresence, alright.


(A woman in the audience) He died.


(Wilfred) He died. But we die too.


(A woman in the audience) He died an eternal death.


(Wilfred) But He still lives.


(A woman in the audience) He had things different; He didnít go back to what He left. Heís not in the same body. Heís a human forever, He isnít what He was.


(Wilfred) He isnít what He was. He is a human now. So thatís part of the sacrifice.

He died, we die too. But He died an eternal death. He died the death of the sinner from which there is no hope of a resurrection, she says. He took the death that was ours that we might receive the life which was His. What kind of Life did He have?


(A man in the audience) Eternal.





(Wilfred) So what kind is He going to give to us?


(Several voices from the audience) Eternal.


(Wilfred) Alright. What kind of a death did we have coming?


(A woman in the audience) Eternal.


(Wilfred) What kind of death did He take?


(Many voices in the audience) Eternal.


(Wilfred) How come He is still alive? So my question again; Do you understand the sacrifice of Christ?


(Several different comments from the audience)


(Wilfred) Well, if I were to take the penalty of somebody elseís transgression who was doomed to die and I died in his place and I was still alive again would you say that I had covered the deal? Was He going to live again if He died for His particular sin?


(A man in the audience) But we donít know what He lost by dying for us, so to speak. He lost something eternally, for good.


(Wilfred) He lost His life, His eternal life. But He is still living.


(A man in the audience) Itís a mystery. (Much laughter)


(Wilfred) Well, I think I proved my point, that it is hazy. Itís just not clear is it? Well, Iím not so sure that I can make it clear either. But Iím going to tell you some things and you can accept them or not. But Iím going to tell you the way it is. And, I think that the Bible bears it out. The Spirit of Prophecy bears it out, if it means what it says, it does. If it means something else then what it says then Iím open to receive it and any time someone can explain it to me in a manner that makes more sense, Iím willing to listen. So, let me go back and talk about that, and then Iím going to read the quotations and I may not get to them all tonight. But Iíll read them to you so you will see on what it is based.


(A woman in the audience) Ok, just something on the death of Christ. Christ died so that Hs life covers us with His righteousness.......... Unintelligible


(Wilfred) One reason.


(A man in the audience) He took on the possibility of dying eternally.


(Wilfred) Good for you boy. Youíre thinking.


(A man in the audience) He didnít die eternally but He could have if He had sinned.


(Wilfred) Well, Iím going to go through and Iím going to give you the picture as it has come to my thinking, with the evidences and then you can either take it or leave it. And I would welcome any further statements from the Bible or The Spirit of Prophecy that have a bearing on it and any thoughts that have a bearing on it. I think it is a very vital subject, itís very vital, because it involves an understanding of the nature of Godís love. And until we can understand the nature of Godís love, until we get to know what God is really like, we are never going to overcome sin. Iím going to read that to you too. The power that enables us to overcome sin is the love of God. Thatís all God got to give us. Love is the only power that can persuade us to quit sinning. He canít use force, see? And there is no other power stronger than love that doesnít force.


(A woman in the audience) Isnít love even stronger than force?


(Wilfred) Well, it is a force, it is a power. Love is actually, and this is a scientific thing, Love is actually the power that created this world.


(This is the end of C/D #19 and the start of C/D #20)


Love is the power that motivated the creation of this world. Iím going to read you a statement which says that Godís Spirit is love, that His life is love. And at creation what was it that moved upon the face of the waters.


(The Audience) The Spirit of God.


(Wilfred) A what is it that is going to recreate the image of God in us?


(The audience) The Spirit.


(Wilfred) And she says that it is the same creative power as operated in the creation of this world that recreates the image of God.


(A woman in the audience) (She asks about spontaneous creating, but what she says is mostly unintelligible)


(Wilfred) What do you mean by spontaneous?


(A woman in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) Iím thinking of it now in a scientific way. Love is an actual physical force. You can measure it in terms of electrical energy in the brain. It is a power.


(A woman in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) Well, you canít even feel if you donít have that power going on. There is no such thing as feeling without the electric current. It is a power, a physical power. In fact, well, Iíd better not involve to deep in that. Let me say it this way, just as The Spirit of Prophecy says it: The same power that created this world is the same power that is going to recreate us. And the power that is going to recreate us is, Iíll read to you, is the love of God. So, what created the world?


(A man in the audience) Love.


(Wilfred) And maybe there is a little bit of a parallel in that. God gives us a little example of that in the family. Love is at the basis of creation.


Ok. Now, the covenant that God made, it was Christ actually that volunteered to give His life, and the Father struggled to accept it, but they made the covenant. Paul talks about here in Hebrews chapter 9 about the last will and testament. He talks about the testaments or the covenants. If you want to look at chapter 8 just a moment verse 6, He says; But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant...You see that the word covenant, well, in the margin it says. Does anybody have it, do you have a marginal reference, testament and covenant are translated that same? Now, that has a parallel with the Bible incidentally, youíve got two testaments, the Old Testament and the New Testament and the Old Testament is essentially a manifestation of the Old Covenant experience. And the New Testament is a manifestation of the New Testament experience, a New Covenant experience. So, there are really Old Covenant, New Covenant records. But the New Covenant which is The Everlasting Covenant spans right through from beginning to end. It was in effect in the Old Testament as well as the new. But there is an Old Covenant experience which was illustrated or manifested at Sinai in the Israelites at that time. And I explained that last Tuesday night. Which is the agreement that the people make with God saying that, ďtheyíll keep thisĒ, but the idea is that they intend to keep it without His help, without the benefits of the New Covenant in their own strength, and they canít do it. So it leads them to recognize that they canít do it and they have to accept the New Covenant before it can be done. The New Covenant is the only means of salvation that is the provisions of the covenant. So, He calls it then a covenant or a testament.


Now, letís go over here to chapter 9, heís talking about these sacrifices and I donít need to go into that I guess. Verse 14; ďHow much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without Spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?Ē Let me go back a couple of verses, 12, ďNeither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood He entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption. For us, Heís talking about the sanctuary and I donít want to get side

tracked into that. I just want to contrast these two bloods here. 13 ďFor if the



blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:Ē He says that if these sacrificial services with animals and blood and ashes can sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh, if thatís the program, how much more he says shall the blood of Christ through the eternal Spirit offer Himself without spot to God purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God.


Here you have a little insight into what happened back there when the covenant was formed, here was Christ offering His blood, His life, through the eternal Spirit and thatĎs significant as weíll see, without spot to God. I repeat it; Christ offered His spotless life to God.


(A man in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) This is way back when the covenant was made. And God accepted it. God agreed. But it took a little struggle. She says; He didnít want to do it. And, yet this was Christ His Son manifesting, perfectly, the law of God, total self-denial. See? So the Father had to accept it. Why did He have to accept it? Because the Father also had to manifest His character. And what was the most precious thing the Father had?


(A man in the audience) His Son.


(Wilfred) His Son.


(A man in the audience) Himself.


(Wilfred) Yes, but He couldnít give Himself because if He did there would nothing. So, He was limited. The best thing the Father could give was His Son. And they both gave the best they had, total self-sacrifice.


So then, by doing this how much more then should the blood of Christ purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God. I want you to notice that it is the sacrifice of Christ, His total self-sacrifice that manifests the pure character of God and that it is that pure character of God when it is revealed to you which will purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God. It is the strongest most powerful thing God can use to save you from sin, to make you decide to do His will, thatís what saving means. Salvation is to do the will of God;

sin is to transgress the will of God. The penalty of sin is death. If you want life, obey and live, thatís the covenant. Obey and live. If you donít obey, no eternal life. But the New Covenant says that God will accept the perfect life of Christ in your place, so that you qualify without perfection, without perfect obedience. Do you see? The only way that you could possibly come through voluntarily, the only way you could possibly get power enough to do it, is for God to do it that way.How else could He show that your allegiance to Him and your allegiance to


the commandments are based on self-sacrificing love for Him if He hadnít done that? If He had left you to show perfect obedience in order to gain eternal life what would be your motivation? It couldnít be anything else. Well, it could, but you couldnít prove it. I would want to obey the commandments so I could get eternal life and so would you, and most of us are doing it right now. Why do you go to church, got to keep the Sabbath? Donít keep the Sabbath and you wonít be ready for the judgment. Your name will go down; you will go to hell fire. Keep the Sabbath. Isnít that it?


(A woman in the audience) Why is Christís perfect atonements for us does God gave us the Holy Spirit to perfect our lives


(Wilfred) Good question.


(Same woman in the audience) Christ is perfect for us.


(Wilfred) Excellent question and Iíll answer it right away. We, I think the rest of us, maybe you havenít been with us when we answered that, the rest of us, we have gone over all this.


Because he is the sin bearer and the cross she says reveals to our dull senses, these dull senses of ours. The cross of Calvary reveals to us the pain that entered the heart of God at the beginning of sin. And she says that that pain did not begin at Calvary, nor end there, it started right when sin began. And itís going to keep right on going until sin stops. Just like with any parent, if the kid continues to disobey the parent, he runs away from home, whatís happening in the parentís heart? Pain? Suffering? He is the sin bearer. The only way I can get eternal life, free, is for Him to accept the consequences of any sins I commit.. Now He died once on the cross to atone for my sins but the pain of my sins is still there as long as I continue to sin. I am joined to His family, I become a member of His family the moment I accept Him as my savior, and I am taken in as one of the members of the family of God. At the cross, you see, He bore the sins of the world and from there on out He does not directly bear the sins of the world. Oh sure, He sees the mess just like I do, I see the mess over there in some countries where theyíre suffering to beat the band and I feel badly about it but I donít really have any pain over it. You follow? Iím not really attached to it. Theyíre not members of my own family. But if it was a member of my own family that was suffering like that, Iíd feel it. Do you get the point? Well now, we are members of His family and as we continue to sin, she says in The Testimonies volume 5; The devil is accusing us before Him, mocking Him, making fun of Him, He saved us from sin, saved us from sin, look at the kind of people youíre going to put in and take my place says the devil. Youíre going to put Wilf Johnson up in here? Look at the mess heís in. What kind of a salvation is that? See, he is accusing the Lord. And the Lord says to Wilf Johnson, Wilf, why do you keep on sinning? Donít you realize what you are doing to me? So, Jesus said, If you love me, keep my commandments. Remember that verse?


(Same woman in the audience) Yes.


(Wilfred) Thatís why. My obedience to the commandments of God is not to gain eternal life; I have that as a gift. Jesus pay the price. But I keep the commandments because I want to make it possible for Jesus to lay down His priestly robes so He no longer has to hang on to that thing, And as soon as Heís got a hundred and forty four thousand who will do it Jesus will lay down His robes. Heís through; He doesnít have to stand between us and God anymore. Donít need a mediator. Does that answer?


(Same woman) My brain is kind of slow.


(Wilfred) So is mine. Weíll go over it again and Iíll give some text on it.


(Same woman) Can you tell us ...... another kind of demonstration thatís going on because Satan has said that nobody can keep Godís law, itís impossible. Isnít that part of it too, or not?


(Wilfred) Your question implies, why do we keep it? Or why do we attempt to keep it?


(Same woman) Donít we keep it also to vindicate Godís law? To vindicate Godís character, or not....


(Wilfred) Oh, I see what you mean, Bethy. Thanks. Yes, thatís true. The Lord wants to vindicate His plan of salvation for one thing. I did bring that up but I didnít quite finish it.


If I fail to live up to the law of God I am letting down the Lord in the sense that the devil can continue to justifiably criticize God. God is not completely absolved in the eyes of the rest of the universe until He has a people who have overcome sin and demonstrate that the devil canít get them down.


(Same woman) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) Thatís right.


(Same woman) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) Well, He could do it but He would never be clear in the eyes of the universe. The devils accusation would stand ground and would hold water.


(A man in the audience) That the law couldnít be changed.....


(Wilfred) It would mean that the law couldnít be kept. Yes, thatís right.



(Another man in the audience) I donít know, everybody is kind of slowing me. You were saying to her that being saved is a gift that youíre saved by grace and faith. Now, you accept Christ but you donít have to keep the commandments. How can you do one without other? Like, you say youíre saved by grace, and even a sinner can accept Christ, right? But that doesnít say he going to be keeping the commandments. Now, if he accepts Christ heís saved.


(Wilfred) Saved from eternal death.


(Same man) And yet he is still a sinner.


(Wilfred) Heís not saved from sin; heís saved from eternal death. Are you saved from sin yet?


(Same man) No, definitely not.


(Wilfred) Neither am I. But I am saved from eternal death.


(Same man) The possibility is there.


(Wilfred) You see, the thief on the cross he accepted the Lord right there. He never had the chance to prove that he could live without sin. But the Lord said you are going to be saved


(Same man) Yes, the light just came on. Thank you.


(Wilfred) This is what this is all about brother, this is why Iím operating here, or I would go home and do something else. We are not yet saved from sin, but weíve got to be saved from sin to vindicate the law of God in the eyes of the universe. And Godís counting on us to do it.And we arenít doing it. We are too interested in the things of the world yet. We are not letting Him fulfill The Everlasting Covenant in our lives. Thatís why Iím sitting here. I want to explain to you what The Everlasting Covenant is and I am real slow at doing it because there are so many side issues. I want to show you what the Lord is trying to do and invite you to cooperate because He is waiting for a hundred and forty four thousand people who will do it. And there are other voices like mine who are stirring up around the country now. And that are teaching the same thing and the Lord is going to raise them up. She tells us that the time is coming when the Lord is going to take the work into His own hands and He is doing it right now. And some people are going

to see the message because the Sprit is going to be poured out in the latter rain and one is going to be taken and one is going to be left. It depends on the individual heart the individual choice. Do you want to go with God? Do you want to be one of those who He can count on to build the character and stand through it? For His sake not for yours, you wonít do it for your sake; you would long give it up for your sake. But for His sake you would do it. Itís based on the law of God.



God is looking for people who would demonstrate that they have the law of God in the heart, but you canít put it in there yourself. Heís looking for people who will let Him do it, and thatís what it is all about. And Iím anxious to get into it. And get it finished.


Now, where was I? Nobodyís fault but mine but I just canít keep my mind on one track tonight. Oh, we were reading here in Hebrews 9 verse 14; That Christ offered Himself through the eternal Spirit....without Spot to God....And for this cause he is the mediator of the New Testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first Testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. And thatís what we have received. We flunked out under the Old Covenant, we canít keep the law by ourselves, so we have to come to Christ and accept the New Covenant, by which we are purged and cleansed and purified by His blood, and we will explain that a little later.


And He is the mediator of this New Testament, this New Covenant, and we are going to receive the promise of the eternal inheritance through that covenant. I think you understand that now, donít you? ďFor where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.Ē If you look up in the Bible dictionary under the word ďcovenantĒ you will find this definition; Last will and testament. And in the Greek words that are used meaning ďcovenantĒ, there are two of them, one of them means a covenant that made between two parties and the other one means a covenant like a statement of intent or purpose that is made by an individual like his last will and testament. Now the New Testament is actually both, there again we have this double meaning that we were talking about.


Here was Christ who had all the treasures of heaven. He had the inheritance of God. As the Father had life in Himself, Jesus said, so, hath He given the son to have life in Himself. Is that not the normal procedure in the family? That the son inherits what the father has. The Father had life in Himself and the Father gave to the Son to have life in Himself, therefore He was an eternal God, He had eternal life. There is no way that He could have died unless He relinquished that eternal life. Is that not clear? So, He had to lay down His life before He could die.


(Several voices from the audience) unintelligible


(Wilfred) He didnít commit suicide. But He gave up the Ghost, as the Bible says when a man dies he give up the Ghost or the Spirit of life, right? What kind of Spirit of life did this great body that Christ was living in up there in heaven before He came down here, the one that Moses saw a little bit of? What kind of body? What kind of a spirit did he have in that body? That gave it life. Huh? Oh, come on thatís easy.



(Several voices from the audience) unintelligible


(Wilfred) An eternal spirit. Yes. Thatís what it says right here in verse 14. God breathed into Adamís nostrils the breathe of life, what kind of life did he have?


(A man in the audience) A conditional life.


(Wilfred) Yes, he had a conditional life. Not life into himself, did he? No, we live and breathe and have our being in Christ, in God all the time. What kind of life did Christ have?


(Several voices from the audience) unintelligible


(Wilfred) So, what kind of a spirit gave His body life? An eternal spirit. An eternal spirit just like it says right there. Now, for Him to die, like it says in the Bible, you know when these patriarchs died when they got old, they gave up the Ghost. And what happened to that Spirit? It went back to God who gave it. What happened to the Ghost that Christ gave up? It went back to His Father. There is your everlasting covenant. Thereís your last will a testament. Christ said, I will give my eternal life to my people. You donít believe that? Or do you? Well, Iíll read it in John 6:53; Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink His blood ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath...What kind life? Now whose blood are they drinking?


(Several voices from the audience) Christís.


(Wilfred) What does the blood stand for?


(Several voices from the audience) The life.


(Wilfred) The life, so whoís life is it that they are getting?


(Several voices from the audience) Christís.


(Wilfred) What kind of life did he have?


(Several voices from the audience) Eternal life.


(Wilfred) So what kind of life are they going to get?


(Several voices from the audience) Eternal.


Wilfred) Thatís right. How did Jesus manage to die on the cross if He had eternal life?


(A man in the audience) He couldnít have died unless He wanted to.


(Wilfred) Thatís right. What would He have to relinquish in order to die?


(Same man in the audience) Eternal life.


(Wilfred) Thatís right.


(A woman in the audience) But when He gave back, the spirit went back to God that seems to me His spirit really came back to Himself............


(Wilfred) Where was he when He died?


(Several voices from the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) Well, let me paint the picture. Up in heaven there is a sanctuary. What is it for?


(A man in the audience) Itís the pattern of the one down here.


(Wilfred) Right.


(Same man in the audience) There was something going on.......


(Wilfred) Where was Christ when that little seed was Maryís womb? Where was His omnipresence? Where was His omnipotence? Where was His body? You thinking?


(A man in the audience) Now you reference the body as what we understand, we do not know what kind of a vehicular He had or God has.


(Wilfred) How are we made?


(A man in the audience) In the image of God.


(Wilfred) So then God has a body.


(Several voices in the audience) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) The prophet to the remnant church makes it pretty plain. And what about Moses, he saw something didnít he? Was Christ there in literal body form?


(A woman in the audience) He saw his back.


(Wilfred) Yes, so He was there. Now thatís the body Iím talking about, what happened to it. This body was so charged with power, so brilliant that even when God covered Moses when He went by He let Moses see just a little glimpse of His hind parts. See? And he was so irradiated that when he came down from the


mount later his face was shinning so brightly that the people couldnít stand to look at him. He was too bright and he had to veil his face. Now thatís the kind of body Christ lived in. And He sure didnít have it when He was in Maryís womb as a little seed. What happened to it? Would you believe that the Bible has some clues to give us? I think maybe the best place to look at it would be in first Corinthians, long about chapter 11. Iím going very slowly here; I donít know whether that is an advantage or a disadvantage. Start about verse 23 ďFor I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto youĒ... That means that Paul had a revelation from the Lord and he is now giving it to them. ... ďThat the Lord Jesus the same night in which He was betrayedĒ.... This was just before He was crucified, right? Thatís the time that He did it ....ĒIn which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat? .... Why? ....Ē this is myĒ.... what?


(Several voices in the audience) Body.


(Wilfred) He was living in His physical body.


(A man in the audience) Symbolic.


(Wilfred) What does He say to do with it?


(A man in the audience) Eat it.


(Wilfred) Which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. Oh, take eat, yes. Did He mean that they were to take His physical body like the cannibals over in Borneo?


(Several voices in the audience) Thatís what threw the Jews off.


(Wilfred) It threw them off alright. Alright, Let us go on. He took the cup, when He had supped, saying ... Did you notice that He supped, He partook of it Himself? You notice you that? .... This cup is the New Testament in my blood: .... Whatís another word for New Testament?


(A man in the audience) Covenant.

(Wilfred) Alright. This cup is the New Testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till He come. And there is a wealth of meaning in the statement.


Now will you go back to John chapter 6 and see what he says, verse 53; ďVerily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink (59)

His blood, ye have no life in you.Ē .... Are you catching the picture? What does this blood represent?


(A man in the audience) Sacrifice.


(Wilfred) The Bible says that they were not supposed to drink the blood of the animal. And it says why. Because it is the life of it. But here He asks them to drink this wine which is the symbol of His blood. He says this is my blood. He is teaching them a lesson, you see, with this bread and wine. He says; Drink this blood, because if you donít drink it you donít have any life in you. What kind of life did this body have that he was in before He came into the world?


(A man in the audience) Eternal.


(Wilfred) Now obviously this is the body He is talking about, it wasnít His physical human body, He going to live in that for eternity. Heís not going to live in the other body. The communion service tells you what happens to it.


(Several voices in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) It supplied to us.


(A woman in the audience) It also... the curtain in the temple was rent.....


(Wilfred) What do you mean?


(A woman in the audience) Doesnít it symbolize the rent body of Christ?


(Wilfred) The end of the sacrificial service. Yes, there is one place where it talks about the veil of His flesh. Letís leave that just for now, Ok? Letís see if we can get this thing.


(Another woman in the audience) So He had to partake of His own body thatís why He drinks too.


(Wilfred) Thatís very bright.


(A man in the audience) As a human, He received eternal life as we receive it.


(Wilfred) Thatís right. Ok, are we back in here again? Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hathĒ.... What?


(A woman in the audience) Eternal life in him.


(Wilfred) Well, doesnít that make sense? Wasnít that what gave that body eternal life? And when He gave up the ghost so that He could lay down that eternal life and take on Himself humanity. So that He could receive only that which every one of us can receive from God to overcome sin. What He had, what was His heritage, He left it in the hands of the Father and stipulated the terms of His last


will and testament, Father that is to go to my children. Do you get it?


(A woman in the audience) How borne with the Holy Ghost when Christ wasnít even born, I mean, I guess it had been laid down before hand?


(Wilfred) Yes, just hold it. Just hold it. Can you bear with me and not interrupt? Just for a few minutes. Because I am having a hard time collecting my thoughts again. And itís not an easy subject to present. And I donít want to make a mistake on it.


Before Jesus could be born of Mary He had already laid down His life in the heavenly sanctuary in the outer court, this was the true sacrifice, this was the true sacrifice of which all the sacrificial services were a type. And He had left His will, His last will and testament, the stipulations of The Everlasting Covenant in the hands of His Father, that was His death of sleep, the first death. It was on the cross that He died the death of the sinner, which is called the second death. From the death of sleep there is a resurrection but from the second death there is no resurrection. Now, when Jesus developed as a little child and grew into manhood He did so through receiving His former self, by the agency of the Holy Ghost, because the spirit of life that had been in Him, in His eternal body which gave Him eternal life had gone back to the Father and was held in trust to be bestowed upon the children of God. Of whom Jesus was the first born. Thatís what my Bible says. Heís the first born of every creature, the first begotten from the dead. That is what it says. Now you say, Oh that means He came out of the tomb. Yes, I believe it does. But donít forget those statements I read to you at the beginning, donít forget those. Let me point out to you that Moses came out of the tomb many years before Jesus did. Then how could Jesus be called the first begotten from the dead? The first born of every creature? Do you see? What was it that initiated the birth of Jesus?


(A woman in the audience) The Holy Spirit.


(Wilfred) The Holy Spirit. And what was the Holy Spirit? And I have got to read you some passages now, you wonít believe me. What was the Holy Spirit?


(Many voices in the audience) unintelligible


(Wilfred) The Spirit of life. That gave Christ His eternal life. It was the eternal Spirit of God. I read you that out of here in connection with the testament didnít I. In Hebrews chapter 9. Alright Iím going to read to you what the Holy Spirit is because youíre likely going to question me. This is taken from the Review and Herald May 19th, 1904, and it appeared in the Sabbath school lesson, first quarter of 1973, on page 51; ďChrist declared that after His ascension, He would send to His church, as His crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take His place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit, ó the soul of His lifeĒ.... To me that is a very solemn thought, but letís follow it through and it will make all the sense in


the world. Here was His life which was the spirit of God, called the Holy Spirit, now called the Holy Ghost. You donít call something a ghost until after somebody has died. And that is way it is not called a Holy Ghost until after He has died. It was the Holy Ghost, His own life that initiated His life in the womb of Mary. Does your Bible tell you that? Mine does. The angel told Mary that that holy thing that is going to be conceived in you will be born of the Holy Ghost. Will be conceived of the Holy Ghost. My Bible tells me that He grew in wisdom and stature and favor with God and man. He received a daily baptism of the Holy Spirit but it wasnít until His baptism and anointing at that particular point of time when he was thirty years of age when Hs ministry began that He received His major anointing of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost. It came down in the form of a dove. And He became the Messiah. And at that point He had the power within His own decision to go back to God anytime He wanted to. He had the power to command His former life, He could make those stones bread, but He had never done it in His humanity.


(A woman in the audience) He knew He could do it. There was no question in His mind but what He could do it.


(Wilfred) Absolutely. He knew it. Thatís why the devil said, Look you can change those stones to bread, after forty days fasting. The devil said you can turn those stones to bread, why donít you do it?


(A woman in the audience) How did He know He could if He had never tried it?


(Wilfred) You can ask Him that when you see Him, after we get up there. All I know is that He could do it. If He couldnít do it, there would be no temptation. And secondly, The Spirit of Prophecy bears out the fact that He did not have to stay here, and go through with the cross.


(A woman in the audience) Well, thatís a parallel test of the hundred and forty four thousand, Iím sorry.


(Wilfred) Now, Christ was awake, He went to sleep voluntarily in the court of the heavenly sanctuary, now He woke up in a new human body. Ok? But He was committed to the terms of The Everlasting Covenant. He must never use any power in His own behalf that would not be made freely available to His people to overcome sin. Got that? So, He completely emptied Himself, and I wish I could keep these statements in order so I would know where they are, but I canít. I arrange them in a certain way and when I talking in a different direction. But Iíll read it to you by and by, Iíll come across it. He totally emptied Himself and He depended entirely upon the strength that God gave Him. He used none of His own inherent power in His own behalf. Do you think you could have done that for three and a half years? He did it because He wanted to demonstrate that it is possible for a man to live without sin in the strength God would give him according to the terms of The Everlasting Covenant. Jesus Himself was the


partaker of that covenant. See? Do you understand? He was the first one that partook of it. And He became the head of the new body of Christ. Thatís all through the New Testament. And His people, those who accept Him become the members in particular of that new body of Christ. And it is through the Holy Ghost that Christ comes to His people.


Now, Iíve read to you about the communion, the communion of the body and blood of Christ, and we are going to come back to it again sometime and get it clearer. But we must absorb not only the eternal life of Christ but the eternal body of Christ; we get a piece of it. Its broken and divided each one gets his piece. Do you get that? The new body of Christ is going to be divided; itís going to be split up into individual human bodies. Is that clear? And the head of that body is going to be Jesus. And they are going to be functioning as one body. I wanted to read you that. I donít want you to think that I am stringing you a line here. If we canít get it from the Word of God we better drop it. I find it over here in Ephesians chapter 2, We better go down to about verse 19, Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God. ... So, weíre in the family, right?... And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: Whatís he talking about? People who are being built up into a temple. What for? In whom ye also are builded together for. .. A what?


(Many voices in the audience) A habitation.


(Wilfred) A habitation of God through


(Many voices in the audience) The spirit.


(Wilfred) The Spirit. Now, Iím not through. Down on chapter 4 verse 8; Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive ... We wonít comment on that part, but. .... gave gifts unto men. And she tells us that the greatest gift He gave was the gift of the Holy Spirit and all other gifts are contained in that one gift. But down at verse 11 he delineates, he says He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of Ö. What?


(Many voices in the audience)The body of Christ.


(Wilfred) Alright. Until we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto....What kind of a man?


(Many voices in the audience) A perfect man.


(Wilfred) A perfect man, measured by what?


(Many voices in the audience) The stature of the fullness of Christ,


(Wilfred) The stature of the fullness of Christ. Iím not through yet. Letís go to chapter 5, weíll start here at verse 23 ďFor the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the churchĒ Ö. Now what does that say? Christ is the head of the church. What is the church? The body. It says right there. .... Ēand he is the saviour of the...What?


(Many voices in the audience) The body.


(Wilfred) The body. So Christ is the Head of the body, His church. 24 ďTherefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.Ē ....Paul kind of runs a parallel here. ....25 ďHusbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it;Ē 26 ďThat he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,Ē 27 ďThat he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.Ē .... What kind of a church is God going to have? Absolutely perfect. 28 ďSo ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.Ē 29 ďFor no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church.Ē .... Now Paul goes so far as to say that the wife is of the same flesh as the husband. See? Thatís what heís saying. But he explains why a little later.30 ďFor we are members of his. .... ď What?


(Many voices in the audience) The body.


(Wilfred) And of His? Wait a minute, we missed one here. We are members of His....


(Many voices in the audience) His body.


(Wilfred) And of His?


(Many voices in the audience) Flesh.


(Wilfred) And of His?


(Many voices in the audience) His bones.


(Wilfred) He wants to be very specific. When we become a member of the body of Christ it is a very literal thing we partake of His flesh. See? And we partake of the blood which is the Spirit of Life. 31 ďFor this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. Now Paul admits, that he is kind of talking about something that is mysterious here, and he says it is. He says this is not just a mystery,Ē 32 ďThis is



a great mysteryĒ ... Why? Well, I am speaking about Christ and the church. So weíre talking about a mystery. And the mystery is the marriage union of Christ and His church. You donít believe it?


Alright, we have to read some more. And I have this one now from the Bible Commentary volume 7 page 406; Comment on chapter 19 of Revelation; ďGod is the husband of His church. The church is the bride, the lambís wife. Every true believer is a part of the body of Christ.Ē Remember how Paul said they became one flesh. The body of Christ is going to become one flesh with Christ. In the spiritual sense not in the physical human sense that is the spiritual body of Christ is going to be restored in His saints. Paul says in another place His inheritance is in His saints. Well, what was His in heritance? Why, His eternal life. His eternal body what bigger inheritance could he possibly have. Where is it going to be? In His saints. Christ regards unfaithfulness shown to Him by His people as unfaithfulness of a wife to her husband. We are to remember that we are members of Christís body.


Hereís another one on the same page; the church is the bride the lambís wife, she should keep herself pure, sanctified and holy. Never should she indulge in any foolishness for she is the bride of a King. Yet she does not realize her exalted position. Iím sure of that. If she understood this she would be altogether glorious within.


And here is another one. The church is the bride of Christ and her members are to yoke-up with their leader. God warns us not to defile our garments and Paul says; No ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, which temple ye are, if any man defile his body, him will God destroy.


First of all Jesus went through this life partaking of the Holy Ghost which was His former self, and He was Christ because the Holy Ghost was His initiator, His Father. He was Christ. With this combination of divinity and humanity, divinity coming though the divine nature, the Holy Ghost, Christ was able to live without sin. And Iím going to read these passages. Iíll have to leave a lot of it out. I just canít give it all; Iíll be here half the night. He finally went to Gethsemane where He made a decision that was irrevocable; He could never go back on it. He was now facing the second death. And there was no hope of a resurrection from it.

From the second death, this was the eternal death of the sinner; He was now forever going to relinquish His personal eternal life, so that it could be delivered to His people.


(A man in the audience) He didnít gain it through the Holy Spirit?


(Wilfred) Yes. He said; It is expedient for you, for his disciple before He went to Gethsemane, It is expedient for you, that I go away, if I go not away the comforter or Holy Spirit will not come unto you. Donít you see?


(A man in the audience) In other words, up to that point He could have gone back and been as He was before.


(Wilfred) Right.


(Same man in the audience) But when He made that decision He was a man forever and the Spirit to us.


(Wilfred) Right you are! At that point He felt that God had left Him. Donít believe that? He cried out ďMy God my God why has Thou forsaken my?Ē He sensed it. And He said at the communion service, He gave them the key. Intellectually He knew what was happening, but emotionally, it was terrible. And you will never know what thatís like until He permits you to share it. And every one of the hundred and forty four thousand is going to get a little spot, a little experience, a taste of Gethsemane, Heís going to have to drink of the cup and be baptized with the baptism. I can read you all this. Because until He does get that he does not really know what Christ went through. He doesnít really understand, but heís going to get a taste of it.


Christ relinquished His life; He took the death that was ours that we might receive the life which was His. But in the communion service He says I will not again partake of it until when?


(A man in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) With you anew in the Kingdom. Do you know when the Kingdom of Christ is reestablished?


(A man in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) The Kingdom with His saints, I read it to you here, is established before the close of probation and the marriage of the Lamb is consummated. Remember I read you that, further back? And I read to you in the Bible about the marriage of the Lamb with His bride, heís talking about Christ and His church. The union of Christ as the head of the new body and the hundred and forty four thousand saints who are going to be united with Him in a mystical marriage union

in which the Holy Ghost, His life blood, His very soul is going to circulate. The head will be reunited with the body. And thatís how He lives, by His Spirit. If we fail ...this is terrible, if we fail, He has no body. He will not partake again of that life until He partakes of it with you when the Kingdom is reestablished. And it comes in the outpouring of the latter rain. That is the thing that completes the work of salvation in the soul and perfects Godís people and unites them with the Head of the mystical union of Christ and the marriage is completed. He says it is done through the Eternal Spirit. And the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, is the very soul of the life of Christ.



Now I want to show you a few things, I know itís about time to quit I suppose. Iíve got a few minutes left.


Review and Herald May 19th, 1904, ďIn the gift of the Spirit, Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could bestow.... Do you understand that now? What is the highest good or the highest gift that heaven has got? ď


(A man in the audience) Unintelligible


(Wilfred) The life of Christ. Christ. Christ. And He is to be in your heart, and He is going to come to you too. Oh, there are so many texts I could read to prove this.


John 14 and Iím going to read it so you wonít think that I am deceiving you. He says, If you love Me keep my commandments, and I will pray the father and He shall give you another comforter that he may abide with you....For how long?


(Voices in the audience) Forever.


(Wilfred) Yes, now letís get this straight. What happens first, I will pray the Father. Do you see your mediator? Interceding, says Father remember the covenant. Father, thereís Wilf Johnson with all his sins down there; I know you donít want to send your Spirit on him. He doesnít deserve it. It really belongs to Me. Christ doesnít really say that but Iím trying to get you the picture. The Father doesnít want to give Christís life to a sinner like me. It belongs to His only begotten Son. But listen, in The Everlasting Covenant the Father agreed to give His Son to the sinners. For God so loved the world that gave His only begotten Son that whosoever shall believe on Him, including Wilf Johnson, should not perish, but have everlasting life. And you cannot have everlasting life unless you eat the flesh and drink the blood of the son of God, and the blood of the Son of God is the Spirit of God which is the spirit of life, the very soul of Christ. Did I get it clear? Father, send my Spirit to Wilf Johnson according to the terms of my covenant. He is my mediator. He is interceding for me. In another place she said, Jesus adds His intercession for the Spirit to come to His people. Letís read on.16 ďThat he may abide with you forever.Ē How long is that Spirit going indwell in Godís people?


(Voices in the audience) Forever.