SDA Heresies on Ezekiel 9 Being Taught on the World Wide Internet

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The following heresies are being taught on SDA Internet Forums on the Internet. The below posting is fraught with errors. It sounds exactly like the past despotic interpretations of Ulicia Ulrike Unruh, for she has always maintained that the sealing of the saints must occur within the midsts of apostate Jerusalem. She believes that is what Ezekiel 9 is saying, but that is not what occurred in the first fulfillment of Ezekiel 9, circa A.D. 27-70, and that is not what will occur in the next literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9, according to Ellen G. White.  


The misconceptions all stem from a wrong interpretation of the true identity of Zion, the bethulah (strictly pure) virgin bride of Christ, Isaiah 62, compared with the church militants who house the wise and foolish virgins. Sinners are shaken out of Zion, by Zion, the pure, SDA church triumphant, Ezekiel 20:34-38, while apostate Jerusalem, imposter “zion,” is destroyed in another literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9 and 22:17-31. The misconceptions stem from an inability to properly distinguish between the church militant and the church triumphant. Ellen White warned that those who do this make a great mistake!


I comment below the writers comments in this color print. Ron



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Subject: [SDAIssues] Nothing to stand in Way of the New Movement?


 This was posted on another forum....
 You are asking, obviously, about the statement where Ellen White speaks of the omega of apostasy in its various features (1SM 204-205), and how "nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement" (1SM  205).  But when you read the rest of the statement, Ellen White is clear the new movement will fail.  Because she writes:
    "Their foundation would be built upon the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure" (p. 205).

    Contrary to the assumption of certain ones who mistakenly believe the denominational structure is spiritually doomed, the "structure" here described is not the denominational organization.  Rather, it is the structure of false theology and spirituality that this new movement will devise.  It is the structure of falsehood that will be swept away when the final conflict breaks upon the church. 


Ron responds:

·      The New Movement, New Organization is described as being formed "among" the SDA structure. It is GC men who have formed the New Movement, New Organization. It is despotically preposterous to assume that the denominational structure is not involved!

·      In other parts of the statement Ellen White said: OUR RELIGION WOULD BE CHANGED. It has. Two different gospels are being taught.

·      The Sabbath is regarded lightly. Members go to restaurants on Sabbath and I told you about the football game on Sabbath afternoon at campmeeting here in Alberta, right in front of the main auditorium. If that is not regarding the Sabbath lightly, tell me about it.

·      She said that the New Movement omega of apostasy would involve giving up pillar doctrines that have stood as pillars of our faith. That is occurring and has occurred. The Trinity Doctrine which was adopted in 1930 involves the Godhead which Ellen White cited as a pillar. That heinous doctrine does total despite to the greatest, crowning sacrifice made by the Son of Man, the forfeiture of His Divine Nature ONLY--Being, FOREVER. This was part of the sacrifice in the heavenly Sanctuary before the earthly sacrifice on the cross, and without which the sacrifice on the cross would have been of no avail. So a change in the Sanctuary doctrine is involved here as well.

·      The adoption of the World's Standard of Accreditation in the 1930's married the church to the world through its educational standards which must be taught in our centers of education.

·      The New Movement made alliances with Babylon via association, counsel and confederacy.

·      She said God would be removed.


·      The New Movement is built on sand and will fall, but only at the time of another literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9.

·      Ellen White said that the New Movement Omega of Apostasy would surely develop and continue until Jesus comes.

·      In the PREFIGURE of the last literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9, there was an apostate church involved and the good left that church. So it will be in any FUTURE LITERAL FULFILLMENT OF EZEKIEL


Yes, the remnant will survive.  But they will not survive while the denomination collapses.  According to Ellen White's repeated assurance, they will survive while the apostate majority leaves the church (see 4T 89; 2SM 380; 20MR 320; GC 608).


Ron responds: A remnant will survive under the same conditions it survived in the A.D. 27-70 PREFIGURE TYPE of Ezekiel 9.


A faithful remnant will leave all Laodicean fallen churches. The only thing a church has to do to fall is remain Laodicean. Ellen White said that all the professing Christian churches are Laodicean. A faithful remnant will come out of all of them because according to Isaiah 4:1-4, that are all doing their own thing at the end time. Seven women in those verses, means all formally organized professing Christian churches. Isaiah 37:31, 31 will accrue. Ezekiel 22:17-31 will accrue as an antitypical fulfillment of the PREFIGURE TYPE. 


In the TYPE, the bad were gathered into the midst’s of apostate Jerusalem, Ezekiel 22:17-31. So it will be in the next LITERAL fulfillment of Ezekiel 9: 


"Study the 9th chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally fulfilled yet the time is passing, and the people are asleep. They refuse to humble their souls and to be converted. Not a great while longer will the Lord bear with the people who have such great and important truths revealed to them, but who refuse to bring these truths into their individual experience. The time is short. God is calling will YOU hear? Will YOU receive His message? Will YOU be converted before it is too late? Soon, very soon, every case will be decided for eternity. Letter 106, 1909, pp. 2, 3, 5, 7. (To "The churches in Oakland and Berkeley, September 26, 1909.)" E. G. White Manuscript Releases Volume One, p. 260.

One of the greatest lesson books God has provided is the EXAMPLE of Israel’s apostasy, which He and Ellen White labeled as a PREFIGURE, The Great Controversy, p. 25, 1911 edition. The entire first chapter of The Great Controversy, is a prefigure of the destruction of the world at the end time, but it all begins AT HIS SANCTUARY, 5T 211, and Ezekiel 9:5, 6:

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.  

    In Ezekiel 9, the sealing angel is commanded to "go through the midst of the city" and seal those who sigh and cry for the abominations "that be done in the midst thereof" (Verse 4)  In other words, the sealed saints are to be found in the midst of the very place where the abominations are occurring.  When the slaughter of the faithless is decreed and accomplished, they will be left within Jerusalem (verse 8).


Ron responds: In the prefigure sealing of Ezekiel 9, there were two Jerusalem's represented with two headquarters in Jerusalem. Jesus and His disciples had headquarters there as did the apostate Jewish church. No one was sealed IN THE MIDSTS OF the apostate Jerusalem. The faithful were gathered out. Ellen White said there is a separation from sin and sinners BEFORE the sealing takes place. The faithful must leave apostate Jerusalem and join with faithful Jerusalem, the true Zion procession of COL, 405, 406.




    Ellen White's SDA Bible Commentary Comments on Ezekiel 9:  "The angel with the writer's ink horn is to place a mark upon the foreheads of all who are separated from sin and sinners, and the destroying angel follows this angel" (Letter 12, 1886). {4BC 1161.5}


Ellen White says that those who receive the mark of the angel with the writer's ink horn are separated from sin and sinners. The writers of the heresies in the post I am responding to, directly contradicts Ellen White by saying that "THE SEALED WILL BE FOUND IN THE MIDST OF THE VERY PLACE WHERE THE ABOMINATIONS ARE OCCURRING! That is a diabolical lie.


     I repeat for emphasis: The angel with the writer's ink horn is to place a mark upon the foreheads of all who are separated from sin and sinners, and the destroying angel follows this angel (Letter 12, 1886). {4BC 1161.5} E.G. White Comments, SDA Bible Commentary, Ezekiel 9.
    Zephaniah 3, also a prophecy about the church of the last days, offers a similar assurance:
    "In that day shalt thou not be ashamed for all thy doings, wherein thou hast transgressed against Me, for then I will take away out of the midst of thee them that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shalt no more be haughty because of My holy mountain.
    "I will also leave the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the Lord.
    "The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies,
 neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid" (verses 11-13).
      The last of these verses, of course is duplicated in Rev. 14:5, which speaks of the 144,000 being without fault and guileless.  Obviously this is a prophecy of end-time Jerusalem--God's remnant church at the close of history.

    In short, all these passages are telling us is that while the end-time apostates within God's church will do their best to take opposition out of their way, they will not succeed.  God's church will survive, the apostate majority will be cast out, and the faithful remnant will remain "in the midst of Jerusalem."
    Hasten the day!  


Ron responds: The individual interpreting Zephaniah (above) is totally errant. His/her interpretation defies and contradicts Ellen White's statement on Ezekiel 9, that there is a separation from sin and sinners and then the angel puts a mark on all who are separated. The separated are the faithful remnant and they are described in Ezekiel 20:34-38. They are brought into covenant with God in the wilderness. They are true Jerusalem, true Zion, the SDA church triumphant, and it is from and by them and their LOUD CRY MESSAGE, that the bad, the rebels, are shaken from the heavenly kingdom of Matthew 13:44 and on, and heavenly Zion, Heb. 12:22, 23. This is the church triumphant which Zephaniah 3 refers to. Zephaniah is referring to THIS REMNANT of Ezekiel 20:34-38, when it says:


"In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, Let not thine hands be slack." Zephaniah 3:16. This finds a corollary in Isaiah 4:1-4, where the words "he that remains in Jerusalem," refers to TRUE JERUSALEM, TRUE ZION, not the apostate, professing Jerusalem and Zion. Always remember, in the PREFIGURE TYPE there was TRUE JERUSALEM, comprised of Jesus, His disciples, and their followers. Then there was apostate Jerusalem. The disciples were sealed in True Jerusalem. Isaiah 4:1-4 does not contradict Isaiah 37:31, 32, but many interpret 4:1-4 in a way that contradicts 37:31, 32.


According to Isaiah 4:1-4, it can sounds to the surface reader like God is going to purge the church militant to leave it pure Zion and Jerusalem. But is that the case. Is that what happened in the A.D. 27-70 example of the Jews? But all the good applies to those that are ESCAPED OF ISRAEL, the ESCAPED REMNANT. They are considered as those who are left in Zion, because Zion is the pure bride of Christ, who is married, Isaiah 62:1-5. She is True Jerusalem. Only she gets the name New Jerusalem, Rev. 3:12. The rest are those of imposter, apostate Jerusalem and Zion, the “seven women” (all formally organized fallen churches—fallen Laodiceans—foolish virgins) who want to be called “Christian” to take away their reproach, but are of the synagogue of Satan.


1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

2 In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.

3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:

4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

5 And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence.

6 And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the daytime from the heat, and for a place of refuge, and for a covert from storm and from rain.


Isaiah 4:1-4, must always agree with Isaiah 37:31, 32, for that is EXACTLY what occurred in the prefigure type.


Church militants (co-ed wheat and tare churches) are famous for making the great mistake of considering themselves as the church triumphant, that the bad will leave them. This could not be further from the truth. The bad, the rebels, are shaken from the church triumphant that is taken to the wilderness and comes into covenant relationship with God, Ezekiel 20:34-38.

"Those who think that the church militant is the church triumphant make a great mistake." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 152.