Has the Abomination of Desolation been Seated Yet?



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Dear Reader,


Recently a follower of Robert Sessler and/or Back to Eden Ministry, who believes those sources in saying that the Abomination of Desolation has already been seated (since 1888/1892) labelled me a futurist for teaching that the Abomination of Desolation is yet to be seated. Here is my response to that person.


I don't teach futurism ONLY. I teach COMBINATIONISM--BOTH--A HISTORIC FULFILLMENT AND A FUTURE FULFILLMENT of some prophesies.  It is thou (person being addressed on DefendEGW forum) who is teaching PRETERISM concerning the Abomination of Desolation--that the Abomination of Desolation was placed in 1888 and/or 1892. That is preposterous!


Ellen White lived until 1915. Where was her voice saying that the abomination of desolation was already seated? Show me one statement saying such and I will prove to you that Ellen White was a false prophet by her following statements IF YOU CAN GIVE ME ONE STATEMENT BY HER SAYING THAT THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION WAS ALREADY SEATED IN HER LIFETIME. Any such statement would make her following statements false prophecy:


     "By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near." {5T 451.1}


     "As the approach of the Roman armies was a sign to the disciples of the impending destruction of Jerusalem, so may this apostasy be a sign to us that the limit of God's forbearance is reached, that the measure of our nation's iniquity is full, and that the angel of mercy is about to take her flight, never to return. The people of God will then be plunged into those scenes of affliction and distress which prophets have described as the time of Jacob's trouble. The cries of the faithful, persecuted ones ascend to heaven. And as the blood of Abel cried from the ground, there are voices also crying to God from martyrs' graves, from the sepulchers of the sea, from mountain caverns, from convent vaults: "How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost Thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?" {5T 451.2}


“It is no time now for God's people to be fixing their affections or laying up their treasure in the world. The time is not far distant, when, like the early disciples, we shall be forced to seek a refuge in desolate and solitary places. As the siege of Jerusalem by the Roman armies was the signal for flight to the Judean Christians, so the assumption of power on the part of our nation in the decree enforcing the papal sabbath will be a warning to us. It will then be time to leave the large cities, preparatory to leaving the smaller ones for retired homes in secluded places among the mountains. And now, instead of seeking expensive dwellings here, we should be preparing to move to a better country, even a heavenly. Instead of spending our means in self-gratification, we should be studying to economize.”  Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 464-5.


Questions for Robert Sessler and his followers and all ministries that believe the abomination of desolation was seated circa 1888-1892:

  • If the Abomination of Desolation was seated in Ellen White’s life-time (up to her death in 1915), her above statements would be false prophecy! False instruction to God’s people!
  • Why did Ellen White not instruct us to flee to the mountains from 1888-1915 while she was alive?
  • Did Ellen White miss the seating of the Abomination of Desolation for 15 years and NEVER realize it or say it was so before her death in 1915?
  • If the Abomination of Desolation is seated, why aren't Sessler and all who believe and teach as he does IN THE MOUNTAINS?
  • Would the Holy Spirit tell us to flee to the mountains 112 years PLUS (1888-2008 PLUS) before the real time to flee to the mountains?
  • In the prefigure of Great Controversy, p. 25, did the Jews flee 100 years plus BEFORE the time to flee. Did true prophets tell them EXACTLY when to flee? Great Controversy says that true prophets told them EXACTLY when to flee.
  • I know a member of this forum who lives smack-dab in downtown Edmonton, Alberta! She defends Sessler's position that the Abomination of Desolation is seated and has been seated since 1888 and on. Yet she live in the middle of a large city and defends her course! Insane!
  • Daniel 12:11, 12 clearly tells us the number of days from the time the daily is removed to the time the abomination of desolation is seated.
  • Ellen White says that the entire chapter of Matthew 24 was given for those who should live in the last scenes of this earth's history. That would include verses 14 and 15 concerning the abomination of desolation. What a failure of Ellen White if the Abomination of Desolation was seated in her day and she did not tell us! What a colossal failure! But the colossal failure is on the part of those who are teaching this error (that the Abomination of Desolation has been seated since 1888/1892) today. That is an abominable lie that conflicts with Daniel 12:11, 12 and Matthew 24:14, 15.


Matthew 24 for the end-time: "When He referred to the destruction of Jerusalem, His prophetic words reached beyond that even to the final conflagration in that day when the Lord shall rise out of His place to punish for their iniquity, when the earth shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.  This entire discourse was given, not for the disciples only, but for those who should live in the last scenes of this earth's history."  E.G. White, Desire of Ages, p. 628.