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----- Original Message -----

From: H


Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:56 PM

Subject: Holy Spirit


  When Christ returned to His Father, are there now four in the Godhead? I know that Christ will keep his humanity, but surely not without the powers of God. I enjoy reading Omega Countdown Ministries and have learned many things. Happy Sabbath.  Harold



----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Beaulieu

To: ; Adventist Hot Issues

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:50 AM

Subject: [AdventistHotIssues] Re: Holy Spirit



Dear Brother Harold,


"He (Christ) suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which WAS His." Desire of Ages, p. 25 1 Cor. 11:24-265, cf. John 6:53, 54, Titus 3:5, 6.


The death which "was ours" was eternal. Christ died to something eternally. That something was His DIVINE ONLY state of being. He is now DIVINE AND HUMAN forever.  When the 144,000 accept the Divine Nature Holy Spirit of Christ, and thus become His BODY, with Him as the Head, the Lord has shown me that is how He receives His Holy Spirit back. That is why it is so important for the 144,000 to partake of the Divine Nature of Christ and thus make up His body again. This is a very deep and serious issue.


2 Peter 1:4
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.


When Christ returned to His Father, there was no change in the Godhead:


1. God the Father

2. Jesus combined with humanity forever, but who will receive His Holy Spirit back via the 144,000, BUT NOT IN A DIVINE ONLY PERSON, as was the Holy Spirit of Christ before the Incarnation.

3. The ONE Holy Spirit which is the essence and substance of all three persons to the Godhead.





----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Beaulieu

To: ; Adventist Hot Issues

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:08 AM

Subject: Fw: [AdventistHotIssues] Re: Holy Spirit



Dear Brother Harold,


I would hasten to add that Jesus, while on earth and now, is still wholly divine and wholly human. What Jesus gave up was His Holy Spirit Divine Life ONLY. But just how Jesus remained wholly divine while taking upon Himself humanity, with His Holy Spirit being cumbered by humanity, is the mystery part that no man can yet explain.


But there can be no question that Ellen White said the Holy Spirit nature of Christ was cumbered by His humanity and that the Son divested Himself of the form of God. There can be no question that the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, is the soul of the life of Christ.


Cumbered with humanity Christ could not be in every place personally, therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them to go to His Father and send the Holy Spirit [THE COMFORTER--THE SOUL OF HIS PRE-INCARNATED LIFE] to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit. E.G. White, (Manuscript Releases Volume 14 (Nos 1081-1135) MR No.1084.


"Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin.

In the gift of the Spirit, Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could bestow....

The Spirit was given as a regenerating agency, and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....

It is by the Spirit that the heart is made pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given his Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress his own character upon the church." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42.


"The apostle would call our attention from ourselves to the Author of our salvation. He presents before us His two natures, divine and human. . . . He voluntarily assumed human nature. It was His own act, and by His own consent. He clothed His divinity with humanity. He was all the while as God, but He did not appear as God. He veiled the demonstrations of Deity which had commanded the homage, and called forth the admiration of the universe of God. He was God while upon earth, but He divested Himself of the form of God, and in its stead took the form and fashion of a man. He walked the earth as a man. For our sakes He became poor, that we through His poverty might be made rich. He laid aside His glory and His majesty. He was God, but the glories of the form of God He for awhile relinquished. . . . He bore the sins of the world, and endured the penalty which rolled like a mountain upon His divine soul. He yielded up His life a sacrifice, that man should not eternally die. He died, not through being compelled to die, but by His own free will." E.G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7a, p. 446.