God’s Ten Historic Signs as to When to Separate From Apostasy in Any Church at Any Time—

Part I


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Dear Reader,

There are trained SDA ministers who do not know what you are about to study. They, above all, should know these facts of the Word in order to teach them to others, but they ALL cannot understand. Isaiah 56:10-12.

On numerous occasions over the tenure of my ministry I have been accused of setting myself up as a standard for when God’s people are to separate from apostasy. That could not be further from the truth, because I have cited the following evidence from God’s Holy Word the inception of my ministry. I will state God’s lines in the sand designating when His people are to separate themselves from the prevailing apostasy and then elaborate below the listing:

1.    Jeremiah Chapters 7 and 11 wherein it says not to even pray for His “chosen” people.

2.    Isaiah 8:9-13, which proffers only one option for those who KNOWINGLY violate these commands—broken in pieces!

3.    The separation and home churches during the ministry of the High Priest Eli and his son’s.

4.    Desire of Ages, p. 232, wherein the only reason given for condoning separation from the ecclesiastical leaders in every succeeding generation by true reformers is when the leaders will not tolerate light.

5.  When the Everlasting Gospel (the three angel’s messages and the Midnight Cry) are KNOWINGLY violated by the leadership of the church via ecumenical Association, Counsel, Council, Girding and Confederacy with God’s enemies—in our case Babylon.

6.    Knowingly straying from the Midnight Cry Lighted path, making it IMPOSSIBLE to get back on the path again. E.G. White, Word to the Little Flock, p. 14.

7.    When another gospel is KNOWINGLY being taught AFTER God has given corrective instruction such as in 1888. This was when Ellen White issued her statement that they (the pioneers) had hoped that there would not be the need of another coming out.

8.    When ANY NEW MOVEMENT is formed “AMONG” God’s church that removes God and permits nothing to stand in its way. Selected Messages, Book 1, pp. 204, 205.

9.    Ellen White’s call out in the Alpha of Apostasy. (What would she do in the Omega which is rife all through the church with  the leaders being the ring leaders of the heresy?)

10.  Whenever ANY church will not make efforts to reform open sinners and/or remove them if they will not be reformed for they (as open sinning THORNS) CHOKE OUT THE WHEAT AND KILL IT, making it impossible for the wheat to mature.

An Elaboration on all of the Above “Lines in the Sand” God Gives to us as to When Separation Becomes Absolutely Necessary and Why

#1. In Jeremiah Chapters 7, 11, and 14, God instructs Jeremiah not to even pray for the apostate Jews of that generation, and that if he should, God said He would not hear his prayers. This designates unpardonable sin on the part of God’s people for that generation and teaches how probation is closed on a generational basis. Obviously, we are corporately responsible for the KNOWN sins of our own generation. Because Israel’s general probation as a nation did not close until the Stoning of Stephen in A.D. 34, that did not relieve the responsibility of each generation to remain true to God.


Jer 7:16 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.


Jer 11:14 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear [them] in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble.


Jer 14:11 Then said the LORD unto me, Pray not for this people for [their] good.

We will now consider why Jeremiah was told not to even pray for his people. First, Jeremiah, Chapter 7. I will comment under the verses that apply to apostate Seventh-day Adventism.

The setting is Jeremiah calling for true repentance to prevent the Jew’s captivity. He remonstrates with them for their vain confidence that they are the people of God no matter what they do. Using the example of Shiloh, he threatens them for their idolatry. He tells them how the sacrifices of the disobedient are rejected by God. He exhorts them to mourn for their abominations in Tophet, and for the judgments of God meted out for those abominations.

While you are reading the chapters from Jeremiah, you should remember that Ellen White said these chapters would have a COUNTERPART in the last days. Here is her statement:


COUNTERPART: "The Lord commanded one of his ancient servants, 'Pray not thou for this people [Jer. 7:16 and 11:14], neither lift up cry nor prayer for them neither make intercession to me for I will not hear thee.' The prophet thus describes the sins which had called forth this fearful denunciation: 'The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means and my people love to have it so and what will ye do in the end thereof?' 'From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, every one is given to covetousness and from the prophet even unto the priest, every one dealeth falsely. They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace, when there is no peace.' The apostles declare that this state of things will find its COUNTERPART in the last days. Many have a form of godliness, but in their daily life deny the power thereof. They have ceased to be convicted of their sins or alarmed at their state. They say in their hearts, 'The church is flourishing. Peace and spiritual prosperity are within her borders.' The words of the prophet may well apply to these self-deceivers, 'They have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them." E. G. White,  Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald,  11-07-82.


You should be aware of the fact that a counterpart would have to be a people who parallel the Jews as being “chosen,” claim to keep God’s commandments, and claim to be a remnant—“The Temple of the Lord, the Temple of the Lord are these,” bragged the Jews, and SDA’s do the very same thing. As well, they claim the gift of prophecy as did the Jews, even though they slew their prophets. SDA’s slay them in another fashion. They cause them stress that gives them duodenal ulcers (M.L. Andreasen) and heart attacks (a story about a devout SDA couple that I will be presenting in the near future). They also engage character assassination. There is more than one way to kill a prophet of God!



Jeremiah 7


1 The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,


2 Stand in the gate of the LORD’S house, and proclaim there this word, and say, Hear the word of the LORD, all ye of Judah, that enter in at these gates to worship the LORD.


This chapter is a sermon that Jeremiah gave at the gate of the Temple. It is often referred to as “the Temple Discourse.” It condemned the false confidence the Jews had in their Temple and the externals of their religion. The sermon was given in the beginning of the reign of Jehoiakim (ch. 26:1; PK 412-415). It is thought that this sermon was given during a national festival because of the words “all ye of Judah.”


3 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place.


Judah had not yet committed unpardonable sin, so Jeremaih calls for an amending of the ways of the people.


4 Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these.


SDA’s say the same thing in other words. The trust in the lying words that they are God’s chosen remnant no matter how great their apostasy. They feel that God is stuck with them because they think they are the last church because they are Laodicea. Ellen White said that all the messages (plural) to the seven churches (Rev. 2 and 3) apply till the end of time.


 "The names of the seven churches are symbolic of the church in different periods of the Christian Era. The number indicates completeness, and is symbolic of the fact that the messages [plural] extend to the end of time, while the symbols used reveal the condition of the church [collectively and generally] at different periods in the history of the world." E.G. White, The Acts of the Apostles, 585.


God now cites the CONDITIONS of their being His people, His Temple.


5 For if ye thoroughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye thoroughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour;


If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:


7 Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever.

Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.


SDA’s trust in lying words from their leaders. They trust in the lies of peace and safety that no matter what the omega heresy new movement does, it is still God’s noble ship that will arrive safely in port heaven.


Begin at My Sanctuary -- "Here we see that the church--the Lord's sanctuary--was the first to feel the stroke of the wrath of God. The ancient men, those to whom God had given great light and who had stood as guardians of the spiritual interests of the people, had betrayed their trust. They had taken the position that we need not look for miracles and the marked manifestation of God's power as in former days. Times have changed. These words strengthen their unbelief, and they say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do evil. He is too merciful to visit His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and safety" is the cry from men who will never again lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish together." E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211.


9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;


Thousands were murdered in Rwanda by an SDA pastor who gathered unsuspecting victims in an SDA compound and then betrayed them to the enemy. He is now serving life in jail for that murder. Matthew 22:7 refers to the church as the murderous city, and that verse is the same event as Ezekiel 9:6, which Ellen White reapplies in both cases.


Does the new movement SDA church burn incense unto Baal? Oh yes it certainly does! SDA leaders lead members of the church into joint worship services with Babylon, and swap pulpits with the Babylonians.  This is offering incense unto Baal if anything ever was such! Notice this example of incense offered to Baal:


Jesuit Theologian to Lecture at Andrews University


Theology of Mission is Topic of Talks at Andrews University

South Bend Tribune, April 9, 2008


Berrien Springs- The 10th "Swallen Mission Lectureship" will be Monday at the chapel of the Seventh Day Adventist Theological Seminary at Andrews University. The theme of the day is "Ever Faithful, Always Changing: Postcards From the History and Theology of Mission." The lecture will feature guest speakers from the Catholic Theological Union of Chicago: Stephen Bevans, a professor of mission and culture and former missionary to the Philippines and Roger Schroeder [D.Miss., Pontifical Gregorian University, Rome] a professor of Catholic missiology and former missionary to Papua, New guinea. For more Information call (269) 471-6505.


There have been many financial frauds committed by SDA leadership. I will be documenting them in the weeks to come. The Davenport affair was one of the more well known, wherein poor widows were bilked out of their life’s savings. There are many more that are not so well known.


10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?


These words strengthen their unbelief, and they say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do evil. He is too merciful to visit His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and safety" is the cry from men who will never again lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish together." E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211.


SDA’s are just like the Jews! They believe they are still God’s people and are delivered (still chosen and saved) in spite of their abominations!


11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.


If you have any doubt about the omega heresy new movement being a den of greed-dog robbers (Isaiah 56:10-12), read Half a Century of Apostasy, by Dr.’s Colin and Russell Standish. Your doubt will vanish as the morning dew at sunrise on a hot day! Here is the information you need: Half A Century Of Apostasy: The New Theology's Grim Harvest 1956-2006 By Russell R & Colin D Standish


Wait till you see the accounts of the SDA robbers among the leadership that Dr.'s Colin and the late Russell Standish present in their book Half a Century of Apostasy!


12 But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.


Shiloh refers to a town in the territory of Ephraim whose location is indicated in Judges 21:19. Shiloh was the first place the children of Israel settled after their 40 year-long stint in the Sinai desert. It was an ideal location for the sanctuary because of its centrality. Shiloh was the home of the ark of the Testament for 300 years, after said time it fell to the Philistines (1 Sam. 4:10, 11). God forsook the tabernacle of Shiloh because of Israel’s grievous idolatry.


Israel’s apostasy at Shiloh was worst during the reign of Eli and his son’s. This is an account of what God’s faithful Jews did at that time. This is important evidence that God’s faithful have separated from the prevailing apostasy in every age it existed and many centuries before the general close of probation for Israel as a nation. Lying leaders of Adventism always try to convince their members that God was long-suffering with Israel, and that there was no separation going on before the stoning of Stephen in A.D. 34. That, my friend is a diabolical lie.


 "The recreant priests added licentiousness to the dark catalogue of their crimes yet they still polluted by their presence the tabernacle of the Lord, and, laden with sin, dared to come into the presence of a holy God. As the men of Israel witnessed the corrupt course of the priests, they thought it safer for their families not to come up to the appointed place of worship. Many went from Shiloh with their peace disturbed, their indignation aroused, until they at last determined to offer their sacrifices themselves, concluding that this would be fully as acceptable to God, as to sanction in any manner the abominations practiced in the Sanctuary." E.G. White, The Signs of the Times, vol. 1, p. 264, col. 3, December 1, 1881.


Have new movement omega heresy Seventh-day Adventists imbibed idolatry? Consider that anything that is substituted for pure truth is an idol. All the heresies of the new movement constitute idolatry. Anything that comes between us and God’s commands is an idol. With the rich young ruler, it was his many possessions. With professing Adventists, it is education, mammon, materialism, false doctrines substituted for even the pillar doctrines of pioneer Adventism; greedy gain, numbers rather than quality, worldly accreditation (SDA educational centers around the world are being forced to hire non-SDA’s and teach worldly curriculum because of accepting State Aid and the Accreditation Standards of the world. All this is gross, blasphemous, abominable idolatry.

13 And now, because ye have done all these works, saith the LORD, and I spake unto you, rising up early and speaking, but ye heard not; and I called you, but ye answered not;


14 Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.


Shiloh was destroyed by the Philistines. The ark was captured and the city was burned. Eli lightly regarded the wicked practices of his sons (see 1 Sam. 2:12-17, 22-25; PP 575-580), and the people depended on the ark, rather than on true heart religion in an effort to receive the approval of God. Jeremiah warned them that the same fate that came upon Shiloh and its sanctuary would descend upon Jerusalem and its Temple.


15 And I will cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your brethren, even the whole seed of Ephraim.


16 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.


The Jews of that generation had crossed the line of God’s forbearance. God’s instruction to Jeremiah to not pray for the people was the signal that they had committed unpardonable sin in that generation. The prime cause of this was Baal worship and confederacy with God’s enemies. SDA’s are doing this very thing right now and have been since the early 1960’s, via ecumenical Association, Counsel, Council, Girding and Confederacy with Babylon. This and the abominable compromises that have been negotiated constitute Baal worship. More on this further on.


17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?


18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.


All my life in the church it never celebrated Easter. Now the church holds joint Easter sunrise services with Babylon! This is like making cakes to Ashtoresh [Ashtoreth], the pagan goddess of heaven. There are different names for the goddess of heaven but they all have a common root in phallus worship and the goddess Astarte(Easter) Ashtoresh, Sameramis, Tammuz Diana and Venus (same goddess). The offering of sacrificial cakes was a characteristic element in a number of Near Eastern cults. This heathen practice later found its way into Christianity. The cakes are now offered to honor the “blessed virgin Mary, the current pagan practice of Roman Catholicism. But this is worship of the “queen of heaven,” a form of current day idolatry.


19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?


20 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, mine anger and my fury shall be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and it shall burn, and shall not be quenched.


21 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh.


22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:


23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.


24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.


Ellen White said that the church was going backward by steadily retreating to Egypt!


“The church has turned back from following Christ her Leader and is steadily retreating toward Egypt. Yet few are alarmed or astonished at their want of spiritual power. Doubt and even disbelief of the testimonies of the Spirit of God, is leavening our churches everywhere. Satan would have it thus.” Testimonies, vol. 5, 217; see also ibid., 211; ibid., vol. 1, 608–609; ibid., vol. 9, 164; Gospel Workers, 14–15.


How long does God tolerate a steady retreat to Egypt? He is longsuffering with this until His people join the confederacy of His enemies. That is the cut-off point of no return. That is when the only option is being broken in pieces, Isaiah 8:9-13. It will become more evident as we go along that this is the point which God regards as unpardonable sin and then instructs His servants to not even pray for the organized structure that commits this abomination of apostasy. At that point, God’s people betray their most sacred trust—their very mission and commission to the world, namely their witness to the world by their example of obedience to the commands of God, and in our case the three angel’s messages as well. We cannot call folk out of Babylon when we are joined to them ourselves via Associations, Councils, Counsels, Girdings and Confederacies. That should be an empirical truth to any mind with a whit of spiritual discernment.


25 Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt unto this day I have even sent unto you all my servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them:


God sent His messengers to warn the people, but they were mocked, scorned and derided constantly.


26 Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers.


Ellen White said that we have done worse than the Jews, because we had their example and did the same things anyway! This is abhorrent to God. Ellen White said that Adventists were worse than Babylon even before the leaders became joined to Babylon via Association, Council, Counsel, Girding and Confederacy.


Worse than Babylon -- "God's professed people are selfish and self-caring....They are idolaters, and are worse, in the sight of God, than the heathen, graven-image worshippers who have had no knowledge of a better way." Testimonies, Vol. 2, 441-442.



I anticipate your next logical question! So why did Ellen White not separate from the church if it was worse than Babylon in her day? The pure truth answer is that the church had not yet committed the unpardonable sin of joining itself to Baal Peor! This is God’s line in the sand as we have and will continue to see from His Word. Until that occurs, via ecumenical Association, Council, Counsel, Girding and Confederacy in our day, there is still hope for a church, BUT NOT AFTER THAT VIOLATION OF GOD’S WORD. Then there is one option and ONE ALONE—“Broken in pieces,” Isaiah 8:9-13.


27 Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee.


One of the most common experiences of my ministry is my asking of questions the answer to which would undeniably bring the truth to light—but those questions go unanswered by all who are not amenable to the truth. This happens almost on a daily basis. In verse 27 above, God warned Jeremiah AND ME, AND YOU, that this very thing will happen to us—they will not answer for an honest answer would expose their error! When you trap and corner a Jesuit, they will do one and/or a combination of three things:


·        Try to respond with error.

·        Not respond at all.

·        Viciously attack your character or try to demean and insult you (ad hominen).


God’s people have learned from the Jesuits.


28 But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth.


Verse 28 above is crucial. This is another point at which every true reformer will separate from the ecclesiastical leaders because they will not tolerate truth—light. This is the only reason Ellen White gives in the following statement for all true reformers leaving the church of their father’s in every succeeding generation:



 "The Sanhedrin had rejected Christ's message and was bent upon His death therefore Jesus departed from Jerusalem, from the priests, the temple, the religious leaders, the people who had been instructed in the law, and turned to another class to proclaim His message, and to gather out those who should carry the gospel to all nations. As the light and life of men was rejected by the ecclesiastical authorities in the days of Christ, so it has been rejected in every succeeding generation. Again and again the history of Christ's withdrawal from Judea has been repeated. When the Reformers preached the word of God, they had no thought of separating themselves from the established church but the religious leaders would not tolerate the light, and those that bore it were forced to seek another class, who were longing for the truth. In our day few of the professed followers of the Reformers are actuated by their spirit. Few are listening for the voice of God, and ready to accept truth in whatever guise it may be presented. Often those who follow in the steps of the Reformers are forced to turn away from the churches they love, in order to declare the plain teaching of the word of God. And many times those who are seeking for light are by the same teaching obliged to leave the church of their fathers, that they may render obedience." E.G. White, Desire of Ages, p. 232.


When a church will not obey God; won’t receive correction and permits truth to perish, and thereby cuts off the voice of the Lord their God from their mouth, it is time to leave. You will no longer profit in any way from such a connection. You will only denigrate in your experience by being joined to such a harlot.


1Cr 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.



A harlot church will not enter and she will hinder all who try. That is why God has always separated the faithful from the disobedient in any given generation.


29 Cut off thine hair, O Jerusalem, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on high places; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath.


Here (above) we have another clear example of God dealing with His people on a generational basis. This is too clear to miss! This is why true reformers have left the apostate churches of their generation because God rejects and forsakes on a generational basis.


30 For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it.


Just the pulpit swapping alone is like wife-swapping. This is setting Babylon in the house which is called by His name. Please take in the reality of how God views this. Pray about it. Meditate on this until you grasp the heinousness of this apostate act alone.


31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.


SDA’s are sacrificing their sons and daughters on the altars of Babylon and her vile practices. The SDA church went to Babylon to learn how to celebrate the worship of Satan himself!


32 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.


33 And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.


34 Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.


Matthew 22:7 and Ezekiel 9 are moving forward apace! The voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride cease in Jerusalem (the church), and it is left desolate, because only their voice can enlighten and ennoble in the cause of God.


Stay tuned for further parts to this all serious study.


God bless all,