Response to Devon Grey's "Some Ellen White Mistakes"
Because some do not understand a sufficient degree of revelation, it is the ultimate "mistake" for anyone to say that something the voice of the Holy Spirit to the Church said is a mistake. I will demonstrate this fact in responding to Devon Grey's interpretations of certain portions of Ellen White's writings as being mistakes. Here are Devon's examples of her "mistakes," with my response after each item he mentions:
SOME ELLEN WHITE MISTAKES:
That Ellen White made mistakes is indisputable. There were times when she directly contradicted herself. The following are a few examples.
1) In the 1886 edition of The Great Controversy, page 335, Ellen stated that the fall of the Ottoman Empire or Turkey was the "exactly fulfilled prediction" sounded by the sixth trumpet of Revelation. Yet in 3 SM 426, she says: "Trumpet after trumpet is to be sounded; vial after vial poured out one after another upon the inhabitants of the earth." Which statement is right? Is Ellen a liar?
Ron Beaulieu responds: Ellen White said that there were things in her writings and in Scripture that "appear" to contradict. The answer to the above riddle is that Matthew 25 describes a time when the bride awakens the ten-virgin bridesmaids declaring that the bridegroom, Christ, cometh. After that declaration, Christ did not come, but rather a "tarrying time" ensued. Was the bride declaring a false prophecy? See Christ's Object Lessons, 405-6. Further, in order for this declared "coming" of Christ, it was accompanied with pre-signs of that coming in order to motivate and awaken the ten-virgins. Ellen White says that Christ held his hand over this coming and certain events surrounding the circumstances of this "coming." Did Christ enlist the bride to announce a false prophecy concerning His coming? No! The coming announced, and the tarrying time to ensue after that awakening, was predicted in Matthew 25. The fall of the Ottoman Empire or Turkey, was an exactly fulfilled prediction and sounding of the sixth trumpet of Revelation--in the same manner as the declaration of the voice of God and the bride that the bridegroom was coming, go ye out to meet Him. Then, in 3 SM, 426, as Devon says, Ellen White said that "Trumpet after trumpet is to be sounded; vial after vial poured out one after another upon the inhabitants of the earth.” Which statement is right? Is Ellen a liar? To which I respond: Both statements are correct! Ellen White is not a liar! Ellen White used prophetic license in mentioning the Ottoman Empire or Turkey as fulfilling a trumpet of Revelation. All the signs elucidated as pointing to the second coming in circa 1844, were true and valid and were necessary to a "coming" that was predicted by Scripture, but was to be preceded by a "tarrying time." There will be no tarrying time at the final loud cry to come out of Babylon. But there was a type of Biblically described signs of Christ's coming as mentioned in Matthew 25. These were signs of His coming--that it was nearer, but not the final cry--the Loud cry, at which He will not tarry.
So did Christ come to the Marriage in 1844? Read The Great Controversy, p. 426-7, and come to your conclusions very carefully.
Devon Grey continues:
Ron Beaulieu responds: The same answer given for "mistake" number one is applicable here also. Secondary "signs of Christ's coming" were necessary before the opening of the nineteenth century, to accommodate the Matthew 25 "coming of the bridegroom," after which there was to be a tarrying time. But the signs will be fulfilled again in a primary and final fulfillment at the next Loud Cry call out of Babylon.
Ron Beaulieu responds: No, Ellen White was not mistaken. Ellen White clearly said that the call out of Babylon would be repeated. Matthew 25 says that call will be repeated, because there was to be a tarrying time after the first call. Some of the seals were opened in a secondary fulfillment of the signs of Christ's coming, but the primary fulfillment of the seal is yet to come. Ellen White fully understood that.
The Midnight Cry Repeated
"My mind was carried to the FUTURE, when the signal WILL BE GIVEN, 'Behold, the Bridegroom cometh; God ye out to meet Him.'" E.G. White, Review and Herald, Vol. 3, p. 331, Feb. 11, 1896.
Notice the date, February 11, 1896.
"The parable of the wise and foolish virgins comes as a solemn warning to EVERY CHURCH. In the parable, all the ten virgins went out to meet their Lord. All had lamps, and vessels for oil. For a time there was seen no difference between them. So with the church that lives just before Christ's second coming. All have a knowledge of the Scriptures. All have heard the message of Christ's soon approach, and confidently expect His appearing. But as in the parable, so it is NOW. A time of waiting intervenes [the tarrying time], faith is tried; and WHEN THE CRY IS HEARD, [FUTURE] 'BEHOLD, THE BRIDEGROOM COMETH; GO YE OUT TO MEET HIM,' MANY ARE UNREADY. They have no oil in their vessels with their lamps. They are destitute of the Holy Spirit. Working, waiting, watching, and praying,==this constitutes genuine Christianity." E.G. White, Review and Herald, Vol. 4, pp. 373-4, January 21, 1902.
Notice the date, January 21, 1902. This was long after the cry of 1844--and the tarrying time still continues to the next Midnight Cry of Revelation 18.
Ron Beaulieu responds: Read
the reference (The Great Controversy, 267, 269, 270) Devon uses in context.
Ellen White mentions that the time the two witnesses (Old and New Testament)
testified was "clothed in sackcloth." This "clothing in
sackcloth" period was the time that Rome suppressed the scriptures and
ended in 1798. Then a "..beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless
pit" was to make war on the Scriptures, p. 268. Prior to 1793, as
stated, in many of the nations of Europe the powers that ruled in church and
state had for centuries been controlled [clothed in sackcloth] by Satan through
the medium of the papacy. But now is brought to view a new manifestation of
satanic power--Atheism, symbolized by France, Egypt and Sodom--not Babylon, a
professing church--the Scarlet Whore Rome, and her daughters.
Ron Beaulieu responds: Ellen White does not contradict herself in the least in the above references. The lamb-like beast is the USA and Satan uses the USA to bring fire power down from heaven. The USA will cooperate with Satan in somehow bringing fire down from heaven in the sight of the beast, the U.S.A. Both are beast powers--Satan being the dragon and the USA being the lamb-like beast. They will operate in concerted effort to deceive with miracles. Satan will cause all to worship the first beast, Rome, who will reach across the gulf to clasp hands with "lamb-like" protestant USA. Satan will persuade the U.S.A. lamb-like beast to enforce Sunday-sacredness in honor of the first beast and receive his mark--his counterfeit day. Because Devon Grey cannot understand the prophecy Ellen White is depicting, it is the height of personal ego for him to say it is she, rather than he, who is mistaken. He should give her the benefit of the doubt until his lesser spiritual discernment is capable of discerning the truth of the matter. We should all follow this same course when we are not able to understand and discern truth spoken by the Holy Spirit gift to the church.
Ron Beaulieu responds: Ellen
White clearly stated that certain prophesies of Daniel and Revelation will
have a dual fulfillment. Revelation 13:3-5, involves a period of 1260 literal
days (forty and two months--30 days to the month) AFTER THE WOUND IS HEALED,
and of course the wound is not even yet fully healed and will not be until
the papacy returns to its former wielding of power in getting Sunday-keeping
enforced at penalty of death for violation of that false day of worship.
Day for A Year Prophecy Versus Literal Days
Ellen White clearly stated that there would be no more prophetic time (day for a year) time after 1844. This is the only way to interpret her statement on this issue so that she does not contradict Revelation 13:3-5, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LITERAL TIME.
As regards GC 480 wherein Ellen White speaks of the judgment being set and the books opened (the pre-Advent judgment), and on p. 666, describing the same scene but showing the judgment occurring at the end of the millennium, both are correct because Christ first judges and seals those who are sighing and crying for the abominations and afflicting themselves because of sin (Ezekiel 9), and then, at the end of the millennium when judgment will be administered by sentence of the guilty. Both are correct. It is the faulty understanding of the critic that is mistaken, not Ellen White.
From the above quotes extracted from her various writings, the reader can see that Ellen White's work as a prophet was not always a pleasant experience. If she were not a true prophet, would not the enemy bless her endeavors to gain followers? This concludes our study in defense of Ellen White. The reader is asked to consider and weigh all the evidence we have presented that supports her messages as being of divine origin. Not once will you ever find her talking against the Word of God. The theme of her messages and instructions were only and always to establish a relationship with our Lord. Never did she try to draw people to herself or to look at her as someone special. These two last points speak the truth about her better than any thing else could.
May God bless you as you continue to seek and find the truth. If you have further questions please feel free to contact us.
Ron Beaulieu concludes: If you do not understand something that Ellen White has written--if it appears to contradict, lay it on the shelf and pray for discernment to correctly understand and relate what she has said. I have oft prayed for months for specific answers, and then received such exciting and obviously true answers that it was positively thrilling. I invite you to do the same instead of indicting the Spirit of Prophecy gift to the church as errant and mistaken.
God bless your discernment,