Should
Membership be Cancelled When Leaving the Apostate New Movement SDA Church?
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Dear Reader, What follows is a letter to me regarding our
duty when resigning membership in the new movement Seventy-day Adventist
church and my response. It is hoped that this will provide insights into some
of the important reasons why we should indeed removed membership from the
church roster. ----- Original
Message ----- From: (Names
Withheld) To: DefendEGW@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday,
August 19, 2008 4:14 AM Subject: [DefendEGW] Re: Corporate Responsibility for Apostasy Dear brother Ron, My wife and I were baptised in a local SDA
church from our country (Romania).Reading and studying the Bible and the
mails received from this group especially this mail regarding corporate
responsibility, we realized the actual apostasy of the church. So we ceased
to attend the Sabbath services in the church, and instead we read the Bible
at home and pray. Our questions are: should we ask the
church to erase our names from the role books to be in accordance with God's
will? Aren't we already separated
through the fact that we don't attend their services? Are you still a member
of the church? Please answer because we really need to
know what to do especially in the times that we are living. May God Bless us all in the
name of Jesus Christ our Saviour. Sincerely your brother and
sister __________ and__________. My response: Dear __________
and ___________, Thank you for your questions.
They are most important in light of the responses I provide below. If you
still have questions after reading this response, please feel free to ask.
Ron You asked: "Our questions
are: should we ask the church to erase our names from the role books to be in
accordance with God's will? 1.
Yes, you should remove
your names from any association, council, girding and confederacy that is not
in accord with the will of God, and the new movement SDA church has removed
God (1SM 205), so you should remove your membership
in that omega of apostasy Synagogue of Satan. Jesus called the apostate
Jewish church the Synagogue of Satan. Were I to ask you if it was okay to
join the Synagogue of Satan and have my name on the books there, I don’t
think you or God would approve. Right? There are other important reasons for
removing your name which I will enumerate in this document. "Christ speaks of the church over which
Satan presides as the synagogue of Satan. Its members are the children of
disobedience. They are those who choose to sin, who labor to make void the
holy law of God. It is Satan's work to mingle evil with good, and to remove
the distinction between good and evil. Christ would have a church that labors
to separate the evil from the good, whose members will not willingly tolerate
wrong-doing, but will expel it form the heart and life." E.G White, Review and Herald Articles, Vol. 4, 243, cf. Signs of the Times, March 1, 1910. 2.
No you are not separated
by merely not attending. Your name on the books adds to the membership rating
of the new movement. But it gets far more serious than that. Ellen White said
that we should become obscure (quote furnished below). Having your names on
the books would not comply with that instruction. Also, all MEMBERS are corporately
responsible for the apostate sins of the church: "The plain straight testimony must
live in the church, or the curse of God will rest upon His people as surely
as it did upon ancient Israel because of their sins. God holds His people, as a body [corporately], responsible
for the sins existing in individuals among them." Testimonies, vol. 3, p. 269. 3.
When the financial
crunch comes upon the world, all SDA
members could be held corporately
responsible for any debt of their respective churches and/or the General
Conference. Vance Ferrell has warned of this as well. In a church organized as a hierarchy, as the SDA church
is, the members can be held corporately responsible for any debt in case of a
financial failure. Get your names removed
as soon as possible. Banks are already beginning to fail in the U.S.A.
4.
“All those
who join with an organization that is under corporation status accept the
debt of that organization, and become subject to that debt of another. I do
not need to tell you what scripture tells us about this debt. Borrowing
money, for expansion, from the ungodly bankers, is not a biblical principle
and, as such, cannot be blessed by God.” This quote is taken from this link: http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/501-church.html 5.
It is imperative that
you request a letter stating that your membership has been removed because
some churches will leave your name on the books in hopes your decision is
only temporary. 6.
Yes, I removed my name
from the church roster in 1986. 7.
When you leave, you
should give a testimony as to why you leave. Write a letter and give it to
all the members of your church if possible. This is a powerful witness as the
following statement attests: "Even though you may not be able to speak a word to those who are working on wrong principles, leave them. Your withdrawal and silence may do more than words. Nehemiah refused to associate with those who were untrue to principle, and he would not permit his workmen to associate with them The love and fear of God were his safeguard-Dare to be a Daniel, Dare to stand alone. Thus as did Moses, you will endure the seeing of Him who is invisible. But a cowardly and silent reserve before evil associates, while you listen to their devices makes you one with them Come out from among them and be separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty." Review & Herald Vol. 4, p. 42. "If God has any new light
to communicate, He will let His chosen and beloved understand it, without
their going to have their minds enlightened by hearing those who are in
darkness and error. {EW 124.2} “I was shown the necessity of
those who believe that we are having the last message of mercy, being
separate from those who are daily imbibing new errors. I saw that neither
young nor old should attend their meetings; for it is wrong to thus encourage
them while they teach error that is a deadly poison to the soul and teach for
doctrines the commandments of men. The influence of such gatherings is not
good. If God has delivered us from such darkness and error, we should stand
fast in the liberty wherewith He has set us free and rejoice in the truth.
God is displeased with us when we go to listen to error, without being
obliged to go; for unless He sends us to those meetings where error is forced
home to the people by the power of the will, He will not keep us. The angels
cease their watchful care over us, and we are left to the buffetings of the
enemy, to be darkened and weakened by him and the power of his evil angels;
and the light around us becomes contaminated with the darkness. {EW 124.3}
The Apostate Church Says: "Regardless of the pretext,
or how righteous the cause may appear, separation from the visible remnant
[the SDA church] is apostasy from the body of Christ." Messenger,
October, 1994, p 2. Yet this Catholic teaching is so firmly entrenched in
their minds that even after they have discovered that the SDA church is in
apostasy, and have decided to physically leave the corrupt SDA church, some
still retain their names on the corporate membership roll. They still retain
a foot in the door of the church, still holding on to "Mother's"
apron string, still touching or remaining connected with the corrupt church
just in case the corporate church, with all its listed members, does indeed
make it to heaven in the end! But is this position acceptable in God's sight? Does
your name on the membership rolls of an apostate church of Babylon, who has
rejected the light from heaven, mean anything? "My [Ellen White's] brother continued to fail
rapidly. If he felt a cloud shutting Jesus from him, he would not rest until
it was dispelled, and bright hope again cheered him. To all who visited him,
he conversed upon the goodness of God, and would often lift his emaciated
finger, pointing upwards, while a heavenly light rested upon his countenance,
and say, ‘My treasure is laid up on high.’ It was a wonder to all that his
life of suffering was thus protracted. He had a haemorrhage of the lungs, and
was thought to be dying. Then an unfulfilled duty presented itself
to him. He had again connected himself with the Methodist church. He was
expelled in 1843 with the other members of the family, on account of his
faith. He said he could not die in peace until his name was taken from the
church-book, and requested father to go immediately and have it taken off. "In the morning father visited the minister, stating
my brother's request. He said that he would visit him, and then if it was
still his wish to be considered no longer a member of their church,
his request should be granted. Just before the minister arrived my brother
had a second haemorrhage, and whispered his fears that he should not live to
do this duty. The minister visited him, and he immediately expressed
his desire, and told him he could not die in peace until his name was
taken from the church-book; that he should not have united with them
again if he had been standing in the light....Soon after this my brother fell
asleep in Jesus, in full hope of having a part in the first resurrection."
Spiritual Gifts, vol 2, p 163-164. There is nothing written in the Bible or the Spirit of
Prophecy that is not for our edification. So this testimony has significance
for us today! Removing our names from the membership rolls of a church which
has apostatized from God, rejected and changed the truths of the three
angels' messages into falsehood, and has become Babylon fallen, is called
"an unfulfilled DUTY." And this duty was carried out before
Ellen White's brother had "full hope of having a part in the first
resurrection"! Hence, there is a duty to leave any church which has
rejected the three angels' messages. And especially is this the case with the
Seventh-day Adventist church. What other church has had, and has rejected,
greater light than the SDA church? It is true that we are not saved by being
members of a church, but we can be lost by remaining members in a
Babylonian one! A statement by Robert Sessler. Ellen White said how the church could become a sister
to fallen Babylon, and the apostate SDA church has more than fulfilled her
stated conditions: "We
must as a people arouse and cleanse the camp of Israel. Licentiousness,
unlawful intimacy, and unholy practices are coming in among us in a large
degree...We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing
our churches to become corrupted and filled with every foul spirit, a cage
for every unclean and hateful bird, and will we be clear unless we make
decided movements to cure the existing evil? E. G. White, Manuscript
Releases No. 449, pp. 17, 18. (Letter 51, 1886 to Elder Butler) Testimonies
on Sexual Behavior, Adultery, and Divorce, p. 193. False
Revivals - “I saw that God has honest children among the nominal
Adventists and the fallen churches, and before the plagues shall be poured
out, ministers and people will be called out from these churches and will
gladly receive the truth. Satan knows this; and before the loud cry of the
third angel is given, he raises an excitement in these religious bodies, that
those who have rejected the truth may think that God is with them. He hopes
to deceive the honest and lead them to think that God is still working for
the churches. But the light will shine, and all who are honest will leave the
fallen churches, and take their stand with the remnant.” {EW 261.1}
In the Appendix of Early
Writings, p. 299, we find the following definition of nominal Adventists: "Nominal
Adventists.--"Those who united in sounding the first and second angels'
messages but who rejected the third angel's message with its Sabbath truth,
but nonetheless continued to espouse the Advent hope, are referred to by Mrs.
White as the 'nominal Adventists.' or those who 'reject the present truth'
(p. 69), also 'different parties of professed Advent believers (page 124)...those who 'reject
the present truth.." Early Writings, p. 299, Appendix. The
New Movement omega of Apostasy SDA church has surely rejected present truth
since 1955-7, by fulfilling all the specifications of Selected Messages,
Vol. 1, pp. 204-5, plus removing the Sanctuary and Atonement messages by
removal of pillar doctrines and the adoption of the Trinity Doctrine in the
early 1930's. In the Alpha, Ellen White saw the Sanctuary and Atonement GONE,
and so it is in the Omega. Sanctuary
Gone Atonement Gone -- "In a representation which passed before me, I
saw a certain work being done by medical missionary workers. Our ministering
brethren were looking on, watching what was being done, but they did not seem
to understand. The foundation of our faith, which was established by so much
prayer, such earnest searching of the Scriptures, was being taken down,
pillar by pillar. Our faith was to have nothing to rest upon--the sanctuary
was gone, the atonement was gone." E.G. White, The Upward Look,
152. "I
saw the nominal church and nominal Adventists, like Judas, would betray us to
the Catholics to obtain their influence to come against the truth. The saints then will be an
obscure [hidden] people, little known to the Catholics but the churches and
nominal Adventists who know of our faith and customs (for they hate us on account of the
Sabbath, for they could not refute it) will betray the saints and report them
to the Catholics as those who disregard the institutions of the people that
is, that they keep the Sabbath and disregard Sunday. Note:
It is now time to become obscure for obvious reasons. A word to the wise is
sufficient. End note.
“Then
the Catholics bid the Protestants to go forward, and issue a decree that all
who will not observe the first day of the week, instead of the seventh day,
shall be slain. And the Catholics, whose numbers are large, will stand by the
Protestants. The Catholics will give their power to the image of the beast.
And the Protestants will work as their mother worked before them to destroy
the saints. But before their decree bring or bear fruit, the saints will be
delivered by the Voice of God. Then I saw that Jesus' work in the sanctuary
will soon be finished. And after His work there is finished, He will come to
the door of the first apartment, and confess the sins of Israel upon the head
of the Scape Goat. Then He will put on the garments of vengeance. Then the
plagues will come upon the wicked, and they do not come till Jesus puts on
that garment, and takes Hs place upon the great white cloud. Then while the
plagues are falling, the Scape Goat is being led away. He makes a mighty
struggle to escape, but he is held fast by the hand that leads him. If he
should effect his escape, Israel would lose their lives. I saw that it would
take time to lead away the Scape Goat into the land of forgetfulness after
the sins were put on his head. The
great white cloud I saw was not the holy place, but entirely separate from
the holy and most holy place, entirely separate from the sanctuary. Then
the angel repeated these words, and said, 'This is the time spoken of in
Isaiah. He saw that there was not man, and wondered that there was no
intercessor. He had no mediator between God and man, and these plagues could
be withheld no longer, for Jesus had ceased to plead for Israel, and they
were covered with the covering of the Almighty God, and they could live in
the sight of a holy God, and those who were not covered, the plagues fell
upon them, for they had nothing to shelter or protect them from the wrath of
God." E.G. White, Dorchester, Maine, October 23, 1850, Spalding--Magan's
Unpublished Mss. Testimonies, pp. 1, 2. “I saw that God has honest children among the
nominal Adventists and the fallen churches, and before the plagues
shall be poured out, ministers and people will be called out from these
churches and will gladly receive the truth. Satan knows this and before
the loud cry of the third angel is given, he raises an excitement in
these religious bodies, that those who have rejected the truth may think
that God is with them. He hopes to deceive the honest and lead them to
think that God is still working for the churches. But the light will
shine, and all who are honest will leave the fallen churches, and
take their stand with the remnant” -Early Writings: p. 261. "At Oswego, New York, September 7, 1850, the Lord
showed me that a great work must be done for His people before they could
stand in the battle in the day of the Lord. I was pointed to
those who claim to be Adventists, but who reject the present
truth, and saw that they were crumbling and that the hand of the Lord
was in their midst to divide and scatter them now in the
gathering time, so that the precious jewels among them, who have
formerly been deceived, may have their eyes opened to see their true state.
And now when the truth is presented to them by the Lord's messengers, they
are prepared to listen, and see its beauty and harmony, and to leave
their former associates and errors, embrace the precious truth and
stand where they can define their position." -Early Writings 69.2 "I saw a number of companies that seemed to be
bound together by cords. Many in these companies were in total darkness;
their eyes were directed downward to the earth, and there seemed to be
no connection between them and Jesus. But scattered through these different
companies were persons whose countenances looked light, and whose eyes were
raised to heaven. Beams of light from Jesus, like rays from the sun, were
imparted to them. An angel bade me look carefully, and I saw an angel
watching over every one of those who had a ray of light, while evil angels
surrounded those who were in darkness. I heard the voice of an angel cry,
'Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come.' "A glorious
light then rested down upon these companies, to enlighten all who would
receive it. Some of those who were in darkness received the light and
rejoiced. Others resisted the light from heaven, saying that it was sent to
lead them astray. The light passed away from them, and they were left in
darkness. Those who had received the light from Jesus joyfully cherished the
increase of precious light which was shed upon them. Their faces beamed with
holy joy, while their gaze was directed upward to Jesus with intense
interest, and their voices were heard in harmony with the voice of the angel,
'Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come.' As
they raised this cry, I saw those who were in darkness thrusting them
with side and with shoulder. Then many who cherished the sacred
light, broke the cords which confined them and stood out separated from
those companies. As they were doing this, men belonging to the
different companies and revered by them passed through, some with
pleasing words, and others with wrathful looks and threatening gestures, and
fastened the cords which were weakening. These men were
constantly saying, 'God is with us. We stand in the light. We have
the truth.' I inquired who these men were, and was told that they were ministers
and leading men who had rejected the light themselves, and were unwilling
that others should receive it." -Early Writings 240.1&2. “The Spirit is poured out upon all who will yield to its promptings,
and casting off all man’s machinery, his binding rules and cautious methods,
they will declare the truth with the might of the Spirit’s power.
Multitudes will receive the faith and join the armies of the Lord…The
safeguards which false shepherds have thrown around their flocks with become
as naught; thousands will step out into the light, and work to
spread the light.” -Review and Herald, vol 3, p 272-275 (July 16 & 23, 1895). “In the representations the
Lord has given me, I have seen those who follow their own desires,
misrepresenting the truth, oppressing their brethren, and placing
difficulties before them. Characters are now being developed, and men
are taking sides, some on the side of the Lord Jesus Christ, some on the side
of Satan and his angels. The Lord calls for all who will be true and
obedient to His law to come out of and away from all connection with
those who placed themselves on the side of the enemy.” -Letter
256, August 1, 1906 & Last Day Events from the Letters and Manuscripts of
E.G. White, p 94 & This Day With God, p. 222. “Of those who are constantly
working to undermine faith in the message God is sending to His people, I am
instructed to say, ‘Come out from among them, and be ye separate’ [2
Corinthians 6:17] Come into light, brethren, and lead others to the Way, the
Truth, and the Life. Those who in faith accept the leadings of the
Spirit of God will see where their dangers lie, and will make decided
moves in the right direction.” -Review and Herald, vol. 5, p 435 (July 23, 1908). “We shall be called to meet
those who notwithstanding definite reproof and warning through the
Testimonies have gone on in an evil course. We are bidden of God to hold
ourselves separate and distinct from these men who have not given
heed to His warning… For they deceive, if possible, the very elect. -Letter
330, November 11, 1906 &
Manuscript Releases, vol. 7, 196. “Now those who have had years
in this same experience, know not God nor Jesus Christ whom He has sent, and
should such go forth as representatives of Jesus Christ? These men will
never give the right mold to other minds; they have grown up to the full
stature of men and women in Christ. They simply have the name of
Christians but are not fitted for the work of God, and never will be until
they are born again, and learn the A.B.C. in true religion of Jesus
Christ. There is a little hope in one direction: Take the young men and
women, and place them where they will come as little in contact with
our churches as possible, that the low grad of piety which is current
in the day shall not leaven their ideas of what it means to be a Christian.” -Letter
16f, May 9, 1892 & Manuscript Releases, vol 12, pp. 332-333. Sister White said of
these people that stay in such a church... It is impossible for anyone to become a true follower
of Jesus Christ, without distinguishing himself from the worldly mass
of unbelievers. If the world would accept of Jesus, then there would
be no sword of dissension; for all would be disciples of Christ and in
fellowship one with another, and their unity would be unbroken. But this is
not the case. Here and there an individual member of a family is true to the
convictions of his conscience, and is compelled to stand alone in his family
or in the church to which he belongs, and is finally compelled,
because of the course of those with whom he associates, to separate
himself from their companionship. The line of demarkation is made
distinct. One stands upon the word of God, the others upon the
traditions and sayings of men. -Review
& Herald, July 24, 1894, para. 3. QUESTION: Christ’s followers must be found spending their time, effort,
and money on spreading the Three Angels’ Messages, not in the courts of the
land fighting for a name of a church which they have chosen to separate from.
Brethren, let us be about our work for God in spreading His truth, and not be
sidetracked by Satan into spending our time, effort, and money in trying to
cling to an idol. (the NAME) There is no valid Biblical reason why God would
desire any of His separated people to defend their right and waste precious
time and money to call themselves "Seventh-day Adventist." I would
like ask those that believe it is time to leave the SDA church, and at
the same time feel we must "keep the name" Seventh-day
Adventist to respond to the following Scripture and SOP facts. "I have spread out my hands all the day unto a
rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own
thoughts...And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for
the Lord God shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name."
Isaiah 65:2, 15. "God calls upon this church to make a change. They
had a name to live, but their works were destitute of the love of Jesus. Oh,
how many have fallen because they trusted in their profession for salvation! How
many are lost by their effort to keep up a name! If one has the
reputation of being a successful evangelist, a gifted preacher, a man of
prayer, a man of faith, a man of special devotion, there is positive danger
that he will make shipwreck of faith when tried by the little tests that God
suffers to come. Often his great effort will be to maintain his
reputation." -7BC: p. 958. "Not by its name, but by its fruit,
is the value of a tree determined. If the fruit is worthless, the name cannot
save the tree from destruction." DA p.107. "We are not saved as a sect; no
denominational name has any virtue to bring us into favor with God.
We are saved individually as believers in the Lord Jesus
Christ." -RH 02/10/1891 Truth is, Scripture does
address such a problem as this. If you feel you must claim the SDA name think
about what you're really doing. Are you claiming the name simply because you
want the NAME? Or is it because you embrace the SDA theology of old?
Prayerfully the latter is your reason. Now see this... Romans 2:29, "But he is a Jew, which is one
inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and
not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." I too embrace original SDA theology as truth and
as I look into my heart I see that I am an "SDA" inwardly as the
Christian is of Israel inwardly. But because of that which Rome has openly
done to this church, I must stand with truth and proclaim I am a Seventh-day
Remnant outwardly. "A virtuous woman represents a pure church, a
vile woman an apostate church. Babylon is said to be a harlot;"
4sp p. 232 The fruits of the SDA church speak volumes unto it
being BABYLON. Who can truthfully say: "Our gold is tried in the
fire; our garments are unspotted by the world"? I saw our Instructor pointing
to the garments of so-called righteousness. Stripping them off, He laid
bare the defilement beneath. Then He said to me: "Can you not
see how they have pretentiously covered up their defilement and rottenness of
character? 'How is the faithful city become an harlot!' My
Father's house is made a house of merchandise, a place whence the divine
presence and glory have departed! For this cause there is
weakness, and strength is lacking." 8T 250.2. QUESTION: As a Seventh-day Adventist,
do you evangelize Catholics? Difficult isn't it? I know it is, I have been
doing it over 21 years now. They insist on staying in the church even though
they have documented evidence that proves they are in apostasy They admit
they know their leaders are in sin and open apostasy, yet they stay in that
church. Do you share these verses with the Catholic the Lord has placed in
your path?
Why do YOU stay in the Seventh-day Adventist church? In the above document I have added statements that
appear in a document from the following link. Ron http://www.sdaapostasy.org/remnantout.htm All His blessings, Ron Beaulieu
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