The
Errant Teachings of Nader
Mansour
Adam,
Ellen White says very
clearly that there are three distinct persons. Nader is misunderstanding the
quotes he is using. He is interpreting them so that they contradict the
following statements. When he works things out so that nothing contradicts, as
I have done on the Godhead, he will arrive at the truth.
"In the first chapter
of Second Peter is presented the progressive work in the Christian life. The
whole chapter is a lesson of deep importance. If man, in acquiring the
Christian graces, works on the plan of addition, God has pledged Himself to
work in his behalf upon the plan of multiplication. “Grace and peace be
multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord.” The
work is laid out before every soul that has acknowledged his faith in Jesus
Christ by baptism, and has become a receiver of the pledge from the three persons—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit"
(Manuscript 57, 1900). {6BC 1074.9}
Chapter 3—Three
Persons in the Godhead
"There are three living persons of
the heavenly trio; in the name of these three great powers—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—those
who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will
co-operate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the
new life in Christ.—Evangelism, 615. {7ABC 441.9}
The Godhead was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave themselves to
the working out of the plan of redemption.—Counsels on Health, 222. {7ABC
442.1}
"The Comforter that Christ promised to send after He ascended to heaven,
is the Spirit in all the fullness of the Godhead, making manifest the power of
divine grace to all who receive and believe in Christ as a personal Saviour. There are three living persons of the heavenly trio; in the name
of these three great powers—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—those
who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will
co-operate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the
new life in Christ.... {SpTB07 63.2}
Jesus is ETERNAL GOD
"The Lord Jesus
Christ, the divine Son of God, existed
from eternity, a distinct person, yet one with the
Father." {1SM 247.4}
"In speaking of
His pre-existence, Christ carries the mind back through dateless ages. He
assures us that there never was
a time when He was not in close fellowship with the eternal God.
He to whose voice the Jews were then listening had been with God as one brought up with Him."—The Signs of the Times, August 29,
1900. {7ABC 440.4}
"The Eternal
Dignitaries of the Trinity—The eternal
heavenly dignitaries—God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit—arming
them [the disciples] with more than mortal energy, ... would advance with them
to the work and convince the world of sin."—Manuscript 145, 1901. {Ev
616.4}
"Personality of the Holy Spirit—We need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is
walking through these grounds."—Manuscript 66,
1899 (From a talk to the students at the Avondale School.). {Ev 616.5}
"The Holy Spirit is a
person, for He beareth witness with our spirits that we are the children of God.
When this witness is borne, it carries with it its own evidence. At such times
we believe and are sure that we are the children of God...." {Ev 616.6}
"The Holy Spirit has a
personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits
that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could
not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God.
“For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in
him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.”—Manuscript 20, 1906. {Ev 617.1}
The Power of God in the Third Person—The prince of the power of evil can only
be held in check by the power of God in
the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit."—Special
Testimonies, Series A, No. 10, p. 37. (1897). {Ev
617.2}
"In Co-operation With the Three Highest Powers—We are to co-operate with the three highest powers in heaven,—the Father, the Son, and the
Holy Ghost,—and these powers will work through us,
making us workers together with God."—Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7,
p. 51. (1905). {Ev 617.3}
To: adventist Hot Issues
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 8:59 AM
Subject: Misinterpretation running rampant!
I want to demonstrate how Nader Mansour
misapplied a very important quote on his video. I don't say he did it
intentionally, but he does not begin to understand how the Holy Spirit is the
pre-Incarnated person of the Son's DIVINE ONLY personage that was divested from
the humanity of the son because His humanity cumbered that Spirit. Nader uses
the following quote to substantiate his errant premise that the holy Spirit is
not a third person, but rather the Spirit of God. Nader cites only this portion
of the following quote in an attempt to prove that the Holy Spirit is the
presence of God, not Christ: "I will not leave you comfortless; I will
come to you."
The divine Spirit that the world's Redeemer
promised to send, is the presence and power of God." Here is the full
statement in context. "I will not leave you comfortless; I will come to
you." The divine Spirit that the world's Redeemer promised to send, is the
presence and power of God. He will not leave his people in the world destitute
of his grace, to be buffeted by the enemy of God, and harassed by the
oppression of the world; but he will come to them. The world cannot see the
truth; they know not the Father or the Son, but it is only because they do not
desire to know God, they do not wish to look upon Jesus, to see His goodness,
His love, His heavenly attractions. Jesus is inviting all men to accept him;
and wherever the heart is open to receive him, He [Christ, via His Holy Spirit]
will come in, gladdening the soul with the light and joy of His presence.”
The above statement in its full context
proves that Jesus is God, for the presence and power of God is further
delineated as the presence of God. What the
above statement proves is that Christ is God, when we apply more of the weight
of evidence defining grace:
"They must have His grace, the SPIRIT OF CHRIST [NOT THE FATHER], to help their infirmities, or they cannot form a Christian character. Jesus loves to have us come to Him, just as we are--sinful, helpless, dependent." Faith and Works, p. 38. In all actuality, all three persons come to us via the ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT, John 14:23, to wit: Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." John 14:23. In context, John 14 discusses the Comforter, the Spirit of Christ, coming to us. Ellen White says Jesus is the Comforter.
Ellen White and the Bible agree on the work
of the Holy Spirit via the Son:
Act
3:26 Unto you first God, having raised
up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from
his iniquities.
All blessings,
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Golebiewski
To: AdventistHotIssues@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 25,
2011 3:00 PM
Subject:
Re: [AdventistHotIssues] Restitution ministries
Thank you for the
link. I am watching the lecture of Nader Mansour on Alpha and Omega (Trinity
and SDA):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iQcrbi774U
What do you think
about it?
Adam