When God Says to No Longer Pray for a Corporate Church
I want to stress from the beginning that we are to pray for individuals in all fallen churches, but we are not to pray for any church organization that has removed God after knowing the truth. I refer to new movement, new movement Adventism, which has removed not only God, but pillar, landmark doctrines such as the truth about the Godhead and the human nature of Jesus Christ, by:
1. Adopting the Trinity Doctrine in 1980, which sweeps away the entire Christian economy.
2. Agreeing with the Evangelical in the mid-1950’s that Christ did not come in our sinful flesh. This is antichrist and all He did for us. This is comparable with the Jews rejection of Christ, especially after knowing the truth.
“He took upon Him our sinful nature.” – Ellen White, Review and Herald, Dec. 15, 1896.
“He took upon Himself fallen suffering human nature, degraded and defiled by sin. – Ellen White, Youth’s Instructor, 12/20/1900.
There are modern-day "bleeding heart types," not unlike the old man who remained to roam the streets of Jerusalem, still praying for her and warning her AFTER THE SAVED OF HER HAD SEPARATED AND FLED TO THE MOUNTAINS OF PELLA IN THE LAND OF PERAEA, [SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 5, 75]. These "bleeding heart types" cite the example of Moses and Daniel in identifying with apostate Israel and Judah and supplicating God in prayer for his apostate once chosen people. They cite all the time God gave Israel before giving up on her. They forget the principle that Israel and Judah were given more time because they did not have an ensample as we have in Judah and Israel! They forget that the people of Noah's day were given only 120 years to repent of their gross apostasy! They forget that the followers of Korah, Dathan and Abiram were given a very short time to renounce their apostasy before they were forever destroyed! They forget that the unrepentant apostates in the golden calf incident were destroyed before Moses prayed for the rest of the people who did repent! They forget that Moses separated the faithful from Korah, Dathan and Abiram before Korah and party were destroyed! They forget that Moses separated the repentees of the golden calf incident from those who refused to repent and removed the tabernacle from the organized camp until the apostates were destroyed from the camp. They forget or are ignorant of the following admonition given by God to Jeremiah (Scripture cited below). They forget that Scripture and Ellen White make very clear the point at which a corporate church body is become fallen and we are to no longer pray for such a corporate body. We are always to pray for individuals within fallen churches, but not any fallen corporate church body. Here is what inspiration tells us concerning this most important issue:
COUNTERPART: "The Lord commanded one of his ancient servants, 'Pray not thou for this people [Jer. 7:16 and 11:9-15], neither lift up cry nor prayer for them neither make intercession to me for I will not hear thee.' The prophet thus describes the sins which had called forth this fearful denunciation: 'The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means and my people love to have it so and what will ye do in the end thereof?' 'From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, every one is given to covetousness and from the prophet even unto the priest, every one dealeth falsely. They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace, when there is no peace.' The apostles declare that this state of things will find its COUNTERPART in the last days. Many have a form of godliness, but in their daily life deny the power thereof. They have ceased to be convicted of their sins or alarmed at their state. They say in their hearts, 'The church is flourishing. Peace and spiritual prosperity are within her borders.' The words of the prophet may well apply to these self-deceivers, 'They have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them." E. G. White, Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, 11-07-82.
The only valid counterpart to the Jews, the first “chosen people” is God’s second “chosen people,” Seventh-day Adventists. Adventists love the false prophesying’s of their prophets (leaders), and they delight in their abominations. The leaders will not admit that the church is in apostasy. Most of the Jews still will not admit that they are in apostasy.
"And the Lord said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem. They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers. Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them.
Then shall the cities [equateable to churches] of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense [honor, tribute, recognition etc.]: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble. Then shall the cities [now churches] of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem [the church per Ezekiel 9] go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble.
For according to the number of thy cities [now churches] were thy gods, O Judah; and according to the number of the streets of Jerusalem have ye set up altars to that shameful thing, even altars to burn incense unto Baal [now ecumenical fraternity fallen churches].
Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble. What hath my beloved [Christ's bride] to do in mine [once] house, seeing she [the church] hath wrought lewdness with many [fallen churches and the world], and the holy flesh [God, Christ and the Holy Spirit] is passed from thee? when thou doest evil, then thou rejoicest [commences to celebration mode of worship]." Jeremiah 11:9-15.
Some of the "bleeding hearts" among professing Seventh-day Adventists, are so ignorant of all the above Scripture and Spirit of Prophecy counsel, that they say we would need another prophet to know when to give up on a people, when God has already clearly spelled it all out! Like the old man of Jerusalem, "My people perish for lack of knowledge." The old man who remained too long to warn Jerusalem, was destroyed with her. Such will be the case with his counterparts among apostate Seventh-day Adventism.
Ellen White Also Told us Precisely When to Separate From the Apostate Seventh-day Adventist Corporate Body
God made it all plain enough in Jeremiah 11, but Ellen White made it just as plain in the following statement:
"'They that forsake the law praise the wicked.' Proverbs 28:4. When those who are uniting with the world [and fallen churches that cannot be distinguished from the world, Early Writings, 273], yet claiming great purity [that they are the pure remnant bride of Christ], plead for union [association, girding, counsel and confederacy Isaiah 8:9-20] with those who have ever been the opposers of the cause of truth [the fallen churches that cannot be distinguished from the world and/or the world], we should FEAR AND SHUN THEM AS DECIDEDLY AS DID NEHEMIAH. Such counsel is prompted by the enemy of all good. It is the speech of timeservers, and should be resisted as resolutely today as then. Whatever influence would tend to unsettle the faith of God's people in His guiding power, should be steadfastly withstood." E.G. White, Prophets and Kings, p. 660.
The Anti-Christ Conspiracy of the Professing Seventh-day Adventist Church
The DIRECTORY CHRISTIAN COUNCILS, published by the World Council of Churches, lists Adventists as MEMBERS in at least six different countries of the world. The number has increased since the time of that publication in 1985. Page 244 of that publication also says that the World Council of Churches is in WORKING RELATIONSHIP with the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. "Working Relationship" and MEMBERSHIP is more than "observer status"! All that is required for membership in the World Council of Churches, is membership in one subsidiary National Council of Churches, such as the National Council of Churches of Christ in the U.S.A., which the SDA church is also a member of. Another subsidiary to the World and National Councils of Churches, is the more local Ministerial Associations which are a local arm of the World Council of Churches, and nearly every SDA pastor is a member of that local arm of the World Council of Churches, and is so encouraged to be so by Andrews University and other SDA Seminaries around the world. You cannot call people out of Babylon, and be a member of it and in working relationship with it yourself!
The church conspired this confederacy with fallen Babylon, without the permission of its constituents, never taking this act to vote by a General Conference Session! This confederacy with Baal, is in total violation of the following counsel by God and Ellen White:
"Associate yourselves, O ye people, and ye shall be broken in pieces; and give ear, all ye of far countries: gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces; gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken n pieces. Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; speak the word, and it shall not stand: for God is with us. For the Lord spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way o this people, saying, Say ye not, a confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear [that Christianity will disappear if all the churches do not teach in common], nor be afraid. Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread....To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:9-13, 20.
Notice the words "broken in pieces," which are mentioned three times for emphasis. These words are mentioned again in the marginal explanation for the words "a slaughter weapon," in Ezekiel 9:2. The marginal reference for these words is: "a weapon of his BREAKING IN PIECES."
Ellen White said that the SDA church will meet with another literal manifestation of Ezekiel 9! That literal slaughter of men, maidens and little children, will occur at SDA churches around the world because of its association, counsel, girding and confederacy with fallen Babylon. Here are her words:
"Study the 9th chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally fulfilled; yet the time is passing, and the people are asleep. They refuse to humble their souls and to be converted. Not a great while longer will the Lord bear with the people who have such great and important truths revealed to them [SDA's], but who refuse to bring these truths into their individual experience. The time is short. God is calling; will you hear? Will you receive His message? Will you be converted before it is too late? Soon, very soon, every case will be decided for eternity." Letter 106, 1909, pp. 2, 3, 5, 7. (To 'The churches in Oakland and Berkeley, September 29, 1909.) E.G. White, Manuscript Releases, vol. 1, 260.
There you have it friend! Ezekiel 9, the destruction of Jerusalem, will be literally manifested at SDA sanctuaries around the world! That is where it begins:
"Here we see that the church--the Lord's sanctuary--was the first to feel he stroke of the wrath of God. The ancient men, those to whom God had given great light and who had stood as guardians of the spiritual interests of the people, and betrayed their trust. They had taken the position that we need not look for miracles and the marked manifestation of God's power as in former days. Times have changed. These words strengthen their unbelief, and they say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do evil. He is too merciful to visit HIS PEOPLE in judgment. Thus 'Peace and safety' is the cry from men who will NEVER AGAIN lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish together." E.G. White, Testimonies, vol. 5, 211.
Why the Ezekiel 9 slaughter at SDA churches? Because of corporate responsibility for unpardonable fraternity with Babylon, after knowing the truth, the Everlasting Gospel of Revelation 14, and turning their backs on that gospel.
Corporate Responsibility for a Corporate Church
Scripturally, the example of Achan spells out the corporate responsibility of every member of a church body for the actions of the corporate body. Ellen White endorses the corporate responsibility of every individual in support of scripture:
"The plain straight testimony must live in the church, or the curse of God will rest upon His people as surely as it did upon ancient Israel because of their sins. God holds His people, AS A BODY, responsible for the sins existing in individuals among them." Testimonies, vol. 3, 269.
"Should a case like Achan's be among us, there are many who would accuse those who might act the part of Joshua in searching out the wrong, of having a wicked, faultfinding spirit...God's displeasure is upon His people, and He will not manifest His power in the midst of them while sins exist among them and are FOSTERED BY THOSE IN RESPONSIBLE POSITIONS." Testimonies, vol. 3, 270.