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Dear Reader,

Note: The following document was written for a young SDA man in college, who said that he did not know what to sigh and cry about. I will keep his identity in confidence. Here is his message to me:

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From: ------------------------

To: SDAIssues@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:02 PM

Subject: [SDAIssues] Rebooting the discussions

Tell you what, let's reboot this discussion. I do not
know what are the issues that you refer to; the mail
from this group has been collecting in my box and I
haven't had the time to read it. I just cleaned it all
out today and am now attempting to become a
participating member once again.

What are the problems, SPECIFIC problems that you and
Confidential see with the SDA church in general, and the SDA
church that you attend (or used to attend)?

What characteristics define a liberal/conservative?

What needs to be done, in your opinion, to resolve
these problems?



When I speak of the Omega of Apostasy, I do not speak of anything that is classed as minor faults and defects such as all churches have. Even Jesus had those in His church "gathered out" and separated church group.

Ellen White says that all the disciples had serious defects they had to work out:

"All the disciples had serious faults when Jesus called them to His service." Desire of Ages, p. 295.

Notwithstanding personal serious faults and defects, Christ "gathered out" from the prevailing apostasy those who would take the gospel to the then known world:

"Christ was a protestant...The Reformers date back to Christ and the apostles. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. Luther and his followers did not invent the reformed religion. They simply accepted it as presented by Christ and the apostles." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 2, 48, col. 2.

Notice that they DID NOT come out because the organized church of the day taught Babylonian doctrines. They separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies.

"The Sanhedrin had rejected Christ's message and was bent upon His death; therefore Jesus departed from Jerusalem, from the priests, the temple, the religious leaders, the people who had been instructed in the law, and turned to another class to proclaim His message, and to gather out those who should carry the gospel to all nations.

As the light and life of men was rejected by the ecclesiastical authorities in the days of Christ, so it has been rejected in every succeeding generation. Again and again the history of Christ's withdrawal from Judea has been repeated. When the Reformers preached the word of God, they had no thought of separating themselves from the established church; but the religious leaders would not tolerate the light, and those that bore it were forced to seek another class, who were longing for the truth. In our day few of the professed followers of the Reformers are actuated by their spirit. Few are listening for the voice of God, and ready to accept truth in whatever guise it may be presented. Often those who follow in the steps of the Reformers are forced to turn away from the churches they love, in order to declare the plain teaching of the word of God. And many times those who are seeking for light are by the same teaching obliged to leave the church of their fathers, that they may render obedience." E.G. White, Desire of Ages, 232.

Again, note that Christ and His disciples did not leave the organized church because it taught Babylonian doctrines. They left because the organized church was imbibing forms and ceremonies and because the ecclesiastical leaders would not accept and tolerate light. That brings us down to today. The above statement says that in every generation, the ecclesiastical leaders refused to tolerate light. What is the light that is not tolerated by SDA leaders today. What is the Omega of Apostasy? When did it begin? When will it end. These are some of the issues we will answer in this document. God forbid that we consider Omega Apostasy as mere defects and faults. Omega Apostasy is a crossing of God's line in the sand. The Alpha did not do that, but I will prove that occurs in the Omega.

God Forbidden Acts of Apostasy

It is an empirical fact that the entire record of God's first "chosen people," is a PREFIGURE example for us. If God rejected them for what they did, we should be keen to observe what commands of God they violated. The Jews did not take God's warnings serious, and neither do His people today regard His warnings and forebodings as serious. They are even more "playing at religion" than were His first "chosen people."

It is interesting to note what God considers as His "line in the sand" as far as apostasy is concerned. Why? Because most men disagree with God on this serious issue. They think His Instructions are not as important as He says they are. For example: God told the Jews three times in succession, that if they ASSOCIATED, GIRDED, TOOK COUNCIL, AND/OR CONFEDERATED WITH HIS ENEMIES, that they would be broken in pieces. Here is that serious admonition:

Isaiah 8

1 Moreover the LORD said unto me, Take thee a great roll, and write in it with a man's pen concerning Mahershalalhashbaz. 2 And I took unto me faithful witnesses to record, Uriah the priest, and Zechariah the son of Jeberechiah. 3 And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived, and bare a son. Then said the LORD to me, Call his name Mahershalalhashbaz. 4 For before the child shall have knowledge to cry, My father, and my mother, the riches of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria shall be taken away before the king of Assyria. 5 The LORD spake also unto me again, saying, 6 Forasmuch as this people refuseth the waters of Shiloah that go softly, and rejoice in Rezin and Remaliah's son; 7 Now therefore, behold, the Lord bringeth up upon them the waters of the river, strong and many, even the king of Assyria, and all his glory: and he shall come up over all his channels, and go over all his banks: 8 And he shall pass through Judah; he shall overflow and go over, he shall reach even to the neck; and the stretching out of his wings shall fill the breadth of thy land, O Immanuel. 9 Associate yourselves, O ye people, and ye shall be broken in pieces; and give ear, all ye of far countries: gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces; gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces. 10 Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; speak the word, and it shall not stand: for God is with us. 11 For the LORD spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying, 12 Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid. 13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread. 14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. 15 And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken. 16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. 17 And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. 18 Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion. 19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. 21 And they shall pass through it, hardly bestead and hungry: and it shall come to pass, that when they shall be hungry, they shall fret themselves, and curse their king and their God, and look upward. 22 And they shall look unto the earth; and behold trouble and darkness, dimness of anguish; and they shall be driven to darkness.

The above scenario is a microcosmic view of God's people at the end-time, because the great falling away (Omega of Apostasy) is to develop and wax stronger until Jesus comes.

The Jews were warned in Isaiah 8, about fraternizing with the enemies of God. They were told that if they ASSOCIATED, GIRDED, TOOK COUNCIL AND CONFEDERATED with them they would be broken in pieces. They violated God's warning through Isaiah, and they were "broken in pieces" in an Ezekiel 9 debacle that involved the destruction of the Temple on Mt. Zion, and then the city of Jerusalem. When you look at the margin definition of the words "slaughter weapon" in Ezekiel 9:2, it says: "a weapon of his breaking in pieces."

The Jews were warned very early in their walk with God as His "chosen people:"

Exd 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth [is] mine:

Deu 14:2 For thou [art] an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that [are] upon the earth.

Deu 26:18 And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that [thou] shouldest keep all his commandments;

Psa 135:4 For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, [and] Israel for his peculiar treasure.

God's first chosen people were finally destroyed, along with their Temple and city proper, Jerusalem. Why? For violating His commands to be separate, peculiar and holy unto Him, by associating with His enemies. Today, as well, God's "chosen people," professing Seventh-day Adventists, are associating, taking council, girding and confederating with those God called them out from to be a holy, separate and peculiar people.

New Testament Call to be a Holy, Separate and Peculiar People

Tts 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

1Pe 2:9 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Hbr 7:26 For such an high priest became us, [who is] holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

Not separate in that we have no witness to God's enemies, but separate from their ASSOCIATIONS, COUNCILS, GIRDINGS AND CONFEDERACIES, for it is from those entities that we are to call them out of Babylon, and we cannot call them out if we join them. We subterfuge our very mission and commission of the Three Angel's Messages to the world and the fallen churches when we link to them in any way. They then feel self-justified when we join them, and it becomes far more serious than that! For example, when we go on Satan's territory, we are subject to being snared, and the very first SDA representative to the ecumenical movement, Pastor Earl Hilgert, was converted to a Babylon church and preaches for them. I asked B.B. Beach, the denomination's chief of ecumenical affairs at the time, if any Babylonian had ever been converted to Seventh-day Adventism by Adventist involvement in ecumenical Associations, Councils, Girdings and Confederacies, and he said NO!

The Warnings of Adventists by Their Prophet Ellen White

"I have been shown that the spirit of the world is fast leavening the church. You are following the same path as did ancient Israel. There is the same falling away from your holy calling as God's peculiar people. You are having fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness. Your [ecumenical] concord with unbelievers have provoked he Lord's displeasure. You know not the things that belong to your peace, and they are fast being hid from your eyes. [The very words applied to fallen Israel on page 17 of The Great Controversy] Your neglect to follow the light will place you in a more unfavorable position than the Jews upon whom Christ pronounced a woe." Testimonies, vol. 5, pp. 75-76.

"Like ancient Israel, the church has dishonored her God by departing from the light, neglecting her duties, and abusing her high and exalted privilege of being peculiar and holy in character. Her members have violated their covenant to live for God and him only. They have joined with the selfish and world-loving. Pride, the love of pleasure, and sin have been cherished, and CHRIST HAS DEPARTED. His Spirit has been quenched in the church. Satan works wide by side with professed Christians; yet they are so destitute of spiritual discernment that they do not detect him." E.G. White, Testimonies,vol. 2, pp. 441-442.

"Among the professed followers of Christ, there is the same pride, formalism, vainglory, selfishness, and OPPRESSION, that existed in the Jewish nation." E.G. White, Sketches from the Life of Paul, 251-252.

"God's professed people are selfish and self-caring....They are idolaters, and are worse, in the sight of God, than the heathen, graven-image worshippers who have had no knowledge of a better way." Testimonies, vol. 2, 441-442.

"One thing it is certain is soon to be realized, the great apostasy, which is developing and increasing and waxing stronger, and will continue to do so until the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout. We are to hold fast the first principles of our denominated faith, and go forward from strength to increased faith. Ever we are to keep the faith that has been substantiated by the Holy Spirit of God from the earlier events of our experience until the present time. We need now larger breadth, and deeper, more earnest, unwavering faith in the leadings of the Holy Spirit. If we needed the manifest proof of the Holy Spirit's power to confirm truth in the beginning, after the passing of the time, we need to-day all the evidence in the confirmation of the truth, when souls are departing from the faith and giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. There must not be any languishing of soul now." (E.G. White, Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7, p. 57).

The context of the above statement is involved with the Alpha and Omega of Apostasy in the SDA church. So what did the Alpha of Apostasy involve? It involved pantheism regarding the personality and presence of God and Christ. It taught that God was in everything He created. That is precisely what the Omega of Apostasy involves but with a variation on a theme. The Omega of Apostasy involves the personality and presence of Christ (the Godhead) as it operates in men. It teaches that the Holy Spirit indwells men no matter what they do as long as they confess the name of Jesus Christ. That is the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which God especially hates, Rev. That involves the "presence" aspect of the Godhead. Adventists are teaching the doctrine of the Nicolaitans while teaching their members that they can be saved while in the Laodicean condition. How can you prove that to yourself? The same way I proved it to myself. Accept Ellen White's statement in Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211, that the leaders will NEVER AGAIN show the House of Jacob their sins. By so doing, they are teaching the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, only believe; that it is not necessary to overcome sin in the life. They thus teach that one can possess the gift of the presence of the Holy Spirit indwelling in them while imbibing known sin and that the people do not have to be apprised of their sins.

The Omega of Apostasy has to do with the Trinity doctrine and the true identity of the Holy Spirit. The Trinity doctrine is the central doctrine of the Catholic church, and it is another of the abominations of the Omega of Apostasy now in the SDA church, for which we are to sigh and cry. But you may study that abomination from other documents on my Website on the Trinity concept of the Godhead.

Another SDA Omega of Apostasy Pantheism Connection

In spite of the abominable efforts of SDA leaders in trying to get you to believe that the SDA church is not in MEMBERSHIP liaison with the World Council of Churches, via "representatives" who are MEMBERS, which is a double-speak abomination in and of itself, fact is that the church is A MEMBER via certain "representative MEMBERS," and MEMBERSHIP in certain National Councils of Churches around the world.

Proof absolute that the church is a MEMBER of certain National Councils of Churches around the world, which is the only requisite for MEMBERSHIP in the WCC, is that certain countries will not let any church operate within their borders unless they are a recognized MEMBER of the World Council of Churches, via membership in the local National Council of Churches. In some of these countries, it was the WCC, that financed the coup that paved the way for the government of that country to take over.

The church has paid large sums in "dues" to these organizations. A few years ago the Conference Treasurer told me how much the General Conference in Washington had paid to the NCC in the U.S.A. Now look below to find that your sacred tithe and offerings is going toward supporting pantheism. Yes, it is just as much an offense to God to support the teaching of pantheism, as it is to teach it yourself:

"We should never give sanction to sin by our words, our deeds, our silence or our presence." Desire of Ages, 152. (Let alone financial support!).

"Before the opening worship service began at the last general assembly of the World Council of Churches (WCC), in Canberra, Australia, delegates passed through the smoke of burning leaves. This was a pagan cleansing rite. The congregation then listened to recorded insect noises and watched a male dancer impersonate a kangaroo. The next day, as two painted, loinclothed aborigines cavorted, South Korean theologian Chung Hyun Kyung invoked spirits of the dead and exhorted the audience of more than 4000 to read the Bible 'from the perspective of birds, water, air, trees' and to 'think like a mountain [pure unadulterated pantheism]." Reader's Digest, February, 1993, issue. Read the entire article found on this Website, a few items down on the Menu, and entitled The World Council of Churches and the Gospel According to Marx.


If you have any doubt whatsoever as to whether or not the SDA church is a member of the World Council of Churches via membership in various National Councils of Churches around the world, write to a person who was an ordained SDA Minister, Vance Ferrell, who has done an in-depth search into this matter. Request Vance's TractBook entitled "Our Ecumenical Involvement. This book is 120 pages, and is worth every cent you will be charged for it. Vance's address is:

Pilgrims Rest
Beersheba Springs, TN 37305

In the 1980's, I confirmed that the SDA church was a MEMBER of the World Council of Churches. It's DIRECTORY OF CHRISTIAN COUNCILS, listed SDA's as FULL MEMBERS in five different countries of the world. The church admitted in the Review that it had been a member of the Council of Free Churches in Hunconfidential, for over 30 years. The Council of Free Churches is the National Council of Churches for that country.

I confirmed the SDA's Membership in the Communication Commission of the NCC in the late 1980's with B.B. Beach. He said that the church was on the Communication Commission of the National Council of Churches, because the church saved a lot of money for radio and television broadcasting by MEMBERSHIP in that Commission. The following counsel is apropos:

"We are never to confederate with men of the world in order to receive financial assistance." E.G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 9, p. 233.

"I saw that since the second angel proclaimed the fall of the churches, they have been growing more and more corrupt. They bear the name of being Christ's followers; yet it is IMPOSSIBLE to distinguish them from the world...Satan has taken FULL POSSESSION of the churches as a body." E.G. White, Early Writings, 273.

My purpose in presenting the quote was to show that linking up with any Sunday--keeping church is like uniting with the world, because it is impossible to distinguish those churches from the world. That is how the world has been brought into the SDA church, by linkage to churches that cannot be distinguished from the world. That act violates the following statements:

"It was to separate the church of Christ from the corrupting influence of the world that the first angel's message was given. But with the multitude, even of professed Christians, the ties which bound them to earth were stronger than the attractions heavenward. They chose to listen to the voice of worldly wisdom and turned away from the heart-searching message of truth...When the churches spurned the counsel of God by rejecting the advent message, the Lord rejected them. The first angel was followed by a second...This message was understood by Adventist to be an announcement of the moral fall of the churches in consequence of their rejection of the FIRST MESSAGE." E.G. White, Story of Redemption, p. 364.

"The world must not be introduced into the church, and married to the church, forming a bond of unity. Through this means the church will become indeed corrupt, and as stated in Revelation, 'a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.'" Testimonies to Ministers, p. 265.

"I see now, as ever I have, the danger of binding up in connection with, or in association in labor, with worldlings, professors or nonprofessors, who are in opposition to our faith, and who have no faith in the testimonies of reproof which the Lord sends. Not the least good can come of such combination, or marriage, in BUSINESS, believers with UNBELIEVERS.There can be in this our work no more combination that oil can mix with water. Here is where the delusion and deception have come in. The world has been placed in from to carry out the workings of the enemy by his own subjects, the children of disobedience, and the children of God have been belittled, suspicioned, accused, and defamed by the agents of the wicked one." E.G. White, Manuscript Releases Volume Eighteen, p. 1338.

The above statement makes it plain that by unbelievers, Ellen White means those who are in opposition to (are not members) of our faith and who do not believe in the Testimonies.

Here is the Proof Positive!

Membership directory:


Notice who the Treasurer is at this link:


If one understands corporate responsibility, which is a relatively simple concept, all SDA MEMBERS are linked to the church's linkage to the National Council of Churches, which is a strictly forbidden practice per Scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy.

"The plain straight testimony must live in the church, or the curse of God will rest upon His people as surely as it did upon ancient Israel because of their sins. God holds His people, as a body [corporately], responsible for the sins existing in individuals among them." Testimonies, vol. 3, p. 269.

One other thing, friend, if you think that the SDA church can be a MEMBER of the Communication Commission, without MEMBERSHIP in the NCC, please wake up!

Abominable Implications of SDA's Being Associated With the World Council of Churches

  • If you study into the requirements for membership in the World Council of Churches and its Subsidiary National Councils of Churches and more local Ministerial Associations, you will find that they specify that members must recruit members from the ranks of the unchurched ONLY. That goes totally counter to the Seventh-day Adventist mission and commission to give the three angel's warning message to the entire world and call folk out of the fallen churches. So, it is obvious, that even feigned membership in these ecumenical bodies is dishonest, because the SDA church has to agree to seek out only the unchurched as converts to Adventism. That is betrayal. When Ellen White speaks of a betrayal of sacred trust, this is what she is referring to:

Begin at My Sanctuary -- "Here we see that the church--the Lord's sanctuary--was the first to feel the stroke of the wrath of God. The ancient men, those to whom God had given great light and who had stood as guardians of the spiritual interests of the people, had betrayed their trust. They had taken the position that we need not look for miracles and the marked manifestation of God's power as in former days. Times have changed. These words strengthen their unbelief, and they say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do evil. He is too merciful to visit His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and safety" is the cry from men who will never again lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish together." E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211.

In addition to betrayal of the three angel's messages, which called us out of Babylon, it is an abominable betrayal of sacred trust and violation of God's command in Isaiah 58:1, to never again shown the House of Jacob its sins. How could Laodicea be reformed if she is not shown her sins? This is why many nominal Seventh-day Adventists do not know what to sigh and cry about, even when their sealing is determinant upon this condition (Ezekiel 9). The "dumb-dog" watchmen will not bark and point out what God considers forbidden, "line in the sand" sin.

  • The SDA church has held joint Easter Sunrise services with the Babylonian churches they were called out of. Easter derives from a pagan custom and Ellen White says that the Lord's supper celebrates Christ's resurrection. But SDA's are doing as Jeremiah 11:9-15 says--returning to the iniquities of their forefathers in celebrating Easter Sunrise services. Here is what A. Leroy Moore, an SDA minister has to say on this issue:

"There is a great deal of difference between proclaiming the truth of the cross and resurrection at the time when the world is celebrating Easter. As pastor I always sought to take advantage of the occasion (and Christmas) to proclaim deeper truths of the incarnation, death, and resurrection. Depending on circumstances, this sometimes involved a call out of Babylon by reference to the perversion of the Passover service, which is to be continued not by Passover observance but by the Lord's supper.

In some cases it provides an excellent opportunity to call people out of Babylonish confusion in which the true and false are so blended that truth itself becomes a vehicle for conveying error. (Thankfully, God does not surrender but uses the truth element as much as people are open to receive.)

Note by Ron Beaulieu: Here again, instead of fulfilling our commission to call people out of Babylon, we are joining them in their pagan customs. End note and back to A. Leroy Moore's commentary:

"The time has come to give the trumpet a "certain sound" and no time to cater to the centuries long counterfeits of Satan. In Ancient Israel God had the sanctuary located with the entry to the east so there would be no worship toward the sun. God revealed increasingly great abominations to Ezekiel re: the perversions taking place in the temple and concluded with the warning against "women weeping for Tammuz" (Eze 8:13-14) and the even greater abomination of 25 dedicated priests worshipping "with their backs toward the temple of the Lord and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east" (Eze 8:15-16).

This depiction was followed immediately by the man with the writer's ink horn who was to go through the city of Jerusalem and set a mark upon those that "sigh and cry for the abominations done in the midst thereof." This was followed by men with slaughtering weapons who were commanded:

Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women; but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. (Eze 9:1-6).

Just as the Sabbath is a sign, it all had to do with symbolism--the counterfeit symbolism of ancient Babylon, a counterfeit that has never ceased and will become the focal point of the final controversy as "Sun"day laws are passed followed by the death penalty as Satan attempts to force upon all people everywhere the worship he fails to secure by enticement (Eve. 13).

The emergence of the Easter sunrise service in Christendom was part of the emergence of Sunday as the day of worship instead of the seventh day, Sabbath and will continue to be used by the enemy to the very end, who plays a long range game that will only end in the final destruction of his counterfeit city, Babylon.

God bless,

A. Leroy Moore

Jeremiah spelled out God's line in the sand when he tell when to no longer pray for God's people. It all involves conspiracy to confederate with God's enemies and returning to the iniquities of our forefathers by joining their Associations, Councils, Girdings and Confederacies. Notice:

Jeremiah 11

1 The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD saying, 2 Hear ye the words of this covenant, and speak unto the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem; 3 And say thou unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel; Cursed be the man that obeyeth not the words of this covenant, 4 Which I commanded your fathers in the day that I brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, from the iron furnace, saying, Obey my voice, and do them, according to all which I command you: so shall ye be my people, and I will be your God: 5 That I may perform the oath which I have sworn unto your fathers, to give them a land flowing with milk and honey, as it is this day. Then answered I, and said, So be it, O LORD. 6 Then the LORD said unto me, Proclaim all these words in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, saying, Hear ye the words of this covenant, and do them. 7 For I earnestly protested unto your fathers in the day that I brought them up out of the land of Egypt, even unto this day, rising early and protesting, saying, Obey my voice. 8 Yet they obeyed not, nor inclined their ear, but walked every one in the imagination of their evil heart: therefore I will bring upon them all the words of this covenant, which I commanded them to do: but they did them not. 9 And the LORD said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem. 10 They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers. 11 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them. 12 Then shall the cities of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble. 13 For according to the number of thy cities were thy gods, O Judah; and according to the number of the streets of Jerusalem have ye set up altars to that shameful thing, even altars to burn incense unto Baal. 14 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble. 15 What hath my beloved to do in mine house, seeing she hath wrought lewdness with many, and the holy flesh is passed from thee? when thou doest evil, then thou rejoicest.

When God's people celebrate with the fallen, they are committing lewdness, and the Holy Flesh (God) passes from them. See the words "God being removed," Selected Messages, bk. 1, 205, which is about the Omega of Apostasy in context. Then what do His people do when they do evil? They celebrate on the banks of the Jordan, when they should be weeping between the porch and the altar, during the antitypical Day of Atonement, and cleansing the soul of sin with the empowerment of the Holy Spirit. This is God's line in the sand. How do we know that? Because He said not to even pray for His people, verse 14.

God has His faithful watchmen who will bark the abominations for which all should be sighing and crying in order to be sealed. The mark or seal of God will not be put on anyone who is not found sighing and crying for all the abominations being done in Jerusalem, the church. A must read is Testimonies, Vol. 5, 207, The Seal of God, based on Ezekiel 9, should be read by any Seventh-day Adventists who desires to obtain that seal.

In answer to you question concerning what designates a liberal and conservative, I will tell you, and we must not leave out the moderates who are the lukewarm Laodiceans.

The true facts of the issue are as follows: There are Orthodox Jews of today who are not hot! There is a counterpart to them among apostate Adventists, Catholics and the other fallen Protestant churches. The only "hot" Christians are those whom the Bible refers to as a faithful remnant of all the apostate bodies. So even so called "orthodox" Jewry and Christianity is not "hot." The true scenario is as follows:

  • "Orthodox Catholicism"--COLD APOSTATE, Mother of Apostasy
  • "Orthodox Adventism"--LUKEWARM CONSERVATIVE APOSTATE--eg. So called Intra-church Independent Ministries--Daughter of Mother -- Historic Counterpart: The Pharisees.
  • Liberal Adventists--Omega of Apostasy cold apostates--Historic Counterpart: The Sadducees.
  • "Orthodox Sunday--keeping Protestants--LUKEWARM APOSTATE--Daughters of Rome--Historic Counterpart--The Samaritans.
  • God's true remnant Church Triumphant--faithful of every age--Philadelphia's--Hot Bride of Jesus Christ. She is made a pillar in His Temple on Mt. Zion. Only Christ and his bride enter that Temple. Christ is the High Priest, she is the lesser priesthood, such as the Sanctuary model portrayed. Historic Counterpart: Jesus, His disciples and His Home Church Companies.
  • God's true bride and the guests at His Wedding--Daughters of His Bride--the Wise virgins who are awakened by the voice of God and the voice of the Bride. God uses the bride to awaken all then virgins, but the bride is always awake. She is the faithful watchmen on the walls of Zion, who do not rest day nor night. For Adventists, see Christ's Object Lessons 405-6, to see who awakens the ten sleeping virgins, and Matthew 25 says that they ALL SLEPT. Historic Counterpart: The Martyrs of all ages. (See The Great Controversy, p. 665 where Nearest the throne is His bride--then special guests the Martyrs, and then the great multitude).

What Should we do? What is our Part According to God?

In answer to your question as to what we should do? We should warn fellow SDA's about what occurred in the PREFIGURE destruction of Jerusalem, A.D. 70. On page 25 of The Great Controversy, Ellen White called that disaster a PREFIGURE symbolizing the destruction of the world at the end of time. However, she also said where it all begins--at His Sanctuary. In the PREFIGURE, Josephus, an eyewitness, said that the destruction began at the Temple Sanctuary, and then proceeded to the city proper of Jerusalem. So it will be again in the antitype to the PREFIGURE TYPE.

Warn fellow SDA's that all who will not sigh and cry the warning of the coming debacle, and the reasons it occurs, will not receive the seal of God. It is all based on this Biblical principle:

Eze 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Eze 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

Eze 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked [man], thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Eze 33:9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

Eze 9:4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

Can we Stop the apostasy? What are More of the Specific Problems?

"The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A NEW ORGANIZATION would be established. Books of a NEW ORDER would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the NEW MOVEMENT. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but GOD BEING REMOVED, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.

Who has authority to begin such a [NEW] movement? We have our Bibles, we have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth? E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 1, 204, 205.

If nothing will be allowed to stand in the way of the Omega of Apostasy New Movement "among" professing Seventh-day Advnetists, we can do nothing but sigh and cry the warning. Does every professing SDA have that duty to perform in order to be sealed?

Friend, if you think you can stand in the way of the New Omega of Apostasy movement, then just try. God says you cannot! It is not the purpose of this document to explain how all of the elements of the 1SM 204-5 statement have been fulfilled, but within the auspices of my Website, I certainly cover them all.

Eze 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

This is a most startling message to most Seventh-day Adventists, but nontheless, it is PREFIGURE, LOOPHOLE FREE. If you want to know the outcome of the SDA church militant, read the PREFIGURE TYPE account in The Great Controversy, Chapter 1.

"Study the 9th chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally fulfilled; yet the time is passing, and the people are asleep. They refuse to humble their souls and to be converted. Not a great while longer will the Lord bear with the people who have such great and important truths revealed to them, but who refuse to bring these truths into their individual experience. The time is short. God is calling; will YOU hear? Will YOU receive His message? Will YOU be converted before it is too late? Soon, very soon, every case will be decided for eternity. Letter 106, 1909, pp. 2, 3, 5, 7. (To "The churches in Oakland and Berkeley, September 26, 1909.)" E. G. White Manuscript Releases Volume One, p. 260.

How did Ellen White know that Ezekiel 9 would be fulfilled again? She was aware of Ezekiel 5:9, wherein is described the worst thing God ever did or ever does. That relates to the end-time and Matthew 24:21, the great time of Jacob's trouble. Ezekiel 5:9 updates Ezekiel chapters 5 and 9 to end time context.

What Else Should we do?

Since the leaders reject the truth we have cited herein, we are to do as Christ did in the PREFIGURE of Israel's apostasy: separate and form home churches just like Jesus and His disciples did in the PREFIGURE. Why? Why did Christ and the disciples separate? Because Scripture and Ellen White both say that it is impossible for the wheat to mature among thorns or open sinners. Thorns differ from tares, in that they sin openly. The corporate leadership of the church is sinning by being in direct violation of act God has specifically forbidden. Tares are defined by Ellen White as those who are insincere and whose motives we would have to judge in order to remove them from the church.

"Christ has plainly taught that those who persist in open sin must be separated from the church..." Christ's Object Lessons, p. 71.

But what does one do when the church's dumb-dog watchmen (Isaiah 56:10-12) will NEVER AGAIN show the House of Jacob its sins? And therefore will not remove persistent open sinners from the church. We have to do precisely what Christ did as our example in the PREFIGURE of Israel's experience. All those experiences were written for our example unto whom the ends of the earth are come.

"Any connection with infidels and UNBELIEVERS which would identify us with them is FORBIDDEN by the word. We are to come out from them and be separate. in no case are we to link ourselves with them in their plans or work." E. G. White, Fundamentals of Christian Education, 482.

"It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to unite with those who are corrupt, and still remain pure. (II Corinthians 6:14-15 quoted). God and Christ and the heavenly host would have men know that if he unites with the corrupt he will become corrupt." E. G. White, Review and Herald, Vol. 4, p. 137.

Ellen White says that God, Christ and the heavenly host would have you know that! Are you going to contend with that authority? Then you will become corrupt if you already aren't. God says so!

"Thorns sprung up.--The thorns made it impossible for the wheat to mature (see Luke 8:14). In the same way secular interest prevent the fruits of the Spirit (Gal. 5:22, 23) from reaching maturity. Religion is relegated to the subordinate position of being only one interest among many. For lack of cultivation it withers and eventually dies. That which the thorny-ground hearers lack is a moral transformation (COL 50). To them, justification is the sum and substance of religion, and they fail to realize that the Christian life consists essentially in the process known as sanctification--the process by which evil traits and tendencies are replaced by the perfect life-pattern of Jesus Christ." SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 5, 405.

Is it possible for you to mature among open sinning thorns? Not at all friend, and I will tell you why. We are to warn the sinner from his ways and warn the church about its apostasy. It will not tolerate the light you advance. It will cast you out if you do your job, just like they tried to throw Jesus over a cliff. We have to warn from the outside just like Jesus and the disciples did and just like we have to warn the other fallen churches. We cannot join them to warn them! Remember:

"Christ was a protestant...The Reformers date back to Christ and the apostles. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. Luther and his followers did not invent the reformed religion. They simply accepted it as presented by Christ and the apostles." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 2, 48, col. 2.

Were Christ and the disciples cowards? No, they knew that NOTHING WOULD BE ALLOWED TO STAND IN THE WAY OF NEW MOVEMENT APOSTATE ISRAEL. So they separated themselves. Oh, but you say they went to the Synagogue to warn the people there. That is true, but the order to the Synagogues was entirely different from churches today. Whenever entering a Jewish Synagogue, you would immediately be asked if you had a message from God to give? If you did, you could give it. Can you do that in the SDA church? If you think you can, go ahead and try. Muster all the love and kindness the Holy Spirit can bestow upon you, then go to an SDA church and warn them in Sabbath School class. Then see what happens! I speak from my own experience and that of hoards of others.

Also, consider that in the Synagogues of the day, they had no pews. Folk stood around and talked to one another and/or gave their testimonies. But remember, Ellen White said that NOTHING will be allowed to stand in the way of the New Movement, the Omega of Apostasy. If you have to try to find out, then by all means try and see!

May God bless your study of His Word,

Ron Beaulieu