The Apostate SDA Church Will not be Blotted Out

that it will not Exist

Part IV

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In our continuation of studying all of the important considerations associated with some of Ellen White’s more favourable statements about the SDA church, I am going to offer additional elements that are not usually considered.

"Again I say, The Lord hath not spoken by any messenger who calls the church that keeps the commandments of God, Babylon. True, there are tares with the wheat; but Christ said He would send His angels to first gather the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into the garner. I know that the Lord loves His church. It is not to be disorganized or broken up into independent atoms. There is not the least consistency in this; there is not the least evidence that such a thing will be. Those who shall heed this false message and try to leaven others will be deceived and prepared to receive advanced delusions, and they will come to nought.

There is in some of the members of the church, pride, self-sufficiency, stubborn unbelief, and a refusing to yield their ideas, although evidence may be piled upon evidence which makes the message to the Laodicean church applicable. But that will not blot out the church that it will not exist. Let both tares and wheat grow together until the harvest. Then it is the angels that do the work of separation.

I warn the Seventh-day Adventist Church to be careful how you receive every new notion and those who claim to have great light. The character of their work seems to be to accuse and to tear down." Selected Messages, Bk. 2, p. 68.

One of the wisest and best representatives of true Seventh-day Adventism that I ever met, the late J. Wilfred Johnson, often pined: “If you want to know how God will work in the future, study how he has worked in the past.”

God’s Word says the same thing in other words. It says that the Word was given to us as an ensample, an example. It would be totally unjust and unbecoming of God to deal partially with modern-day spiritual Israel, “Jerusalem,” the SDA church, by excusing apostasies that church commits that exactly follow in the path of ancient apostate Israel. The most truthful realization one could come to is that if God let His ancient “chosen people” be destroyed in an A.D. 70 debacle fulfilling Ezekiel 9, how much more will He let His modern-day “chosen” people be destroyed since they have had the example of ancient Israel!

Following through on the premise that if we want to know how God will work in the future, we must look to how He has worked in the past, we should consider how He purged His floor and “adjusted” things at the Headquarters of His Work in the past.

I am going to complete my comments concerning the first E.G. White statement in this part 4, but I want you to notice another statement often misused by ministers and laity to convince folk that we are to remain at an apostate church no matter what apostasy it imbibes, is the following:

Noble Ship: "There is no need to doubt, to be fearful that the work will not succeed. God is at the head of the work, and He will set everything in order. If maters need adjusting at the head of the work, God will attend to that, and work to right every wrong. Let us have faith that God is going to carry the noble ship which bears the people of God safely into port." E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 2, 390.

Notice the crucial qualifying words:

· God is at the head of the work.

· There is no need to doubt, to be fearful that the work will not succeed.

· He will set everything in order.

· If maters need adjusting at the head of the work, God will attend to that, and work to right every wrong.

· Let us have faith that God is going to carry the noble ship which bears the people of God safely into port.

Notice that Ellen White chose the words “the work,” THREE TIMES, rather than “the church.” The church militant (wheat and tare co-ed church) misapplies these words: “the work” to itself as though God will adjust anything wrong at SDA headquarters and thus that is the noble ship which bears the people of God safely into port.

· Were it true that God will right every wrong of the church militant, why would Ezekiel 9 begin at His Sanctuary, Ezekiel 9:6?

· Which was the noble ship in the case of ancient Israel? Was it Christ, His disciples and their followers?

· Did Jesus and His followers have headquarters in Jerusalem as well? Which headquarters was the “head of the work? Was it the apostate headquarters or Jesus’ headquarters?

· Which was the noble ship that bore the people of God safely into port; that saved every true Christian? You know the answer!

· If the new movement formed “among” [within], 1 Selected Messages, pp. 204-5, has removed God, how is God at the head of the work in that new movement?

· How did God work to set everything in order and adjust things at the head of the work in the example of ancient Israel? Here is the all crucial answer to that question:

“Christ was a protestant. He protested against the formal worship of the Jewish nation, who rejected the counsel of God against themselves. He told them that they taught for doctrines the commandments of men, and that they were pretenders and hypocrites. Like whited sepulchers they were beautiful without, but within full of impurity and corruption. The Reformers date back to Christ and the apostles. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. Luther and his followers did not invent the reformed religion. They simply accepted it as presented by Christ and the apostles. The Bible is presented to us as a sufficient guide; but the pope and his workers remove it from the people as if it were a curse, because it exposes their pretensions and rebukes their idolatry. {RH, June 1, 1886 par. 14}

When a corporate church engages apostasy and will not put it away and out of the camp, the faithful must leave or be corporately responsible. This is the reason Christ and His disciples left. This is why Paul left. This is why Protestants left Rome. This is why Adventists left the other churches in 1844, when they would not tolerate light.

Jesus left

"Christ was a protestant...The Reformers date back to Christ and the apostles. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. Luther and his followers did not invent the reformed religion. They simply accepted it as presented by Christ and the apostles." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 2, 48, col. 2.

Paul left

"And as they persisted in their rejection of the gospel the apostle (Paul) went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space for three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God. But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus." Acts, 19:8, 9.

"Fearing that the faith of the believers would be endangered by continued association with these opposers of the truth, Paul separated from them, and gathered the disciples into a distinct body." E.G. White, Acts of the Apostles, p. 286.

"The recreant priests added licentiousness to the dark catalogue of their crimes yet they still polluted by their presence the tabernacle of the Lord, and, laden with sin, dared to come into the presence of a holy God. As the men of Israel witnessed the corrupt course of the priests, they thought it safer for their families not to come up to the appointed place of worship. Many went from Shiloh with their peace disturbed, their indignation aroused, until they at last determined to offer their sacrifices themselves, concluding that this would be fully as acceptable to God, as to sanction in any manner the abominations practiced in the Sanctuary." E.G. White, The Signs of the Times, vol. 1, p. 264, col. 3, December 1, 1881.

"The Sanhedrin had rejected Christ's message and was bent upon His death therefore Jesus departed from Jerusalem, from the priests, the temple, the religious leaders, the people who had been instructed in the law, and turned to another class to proclaim His message, and to gather out those who should carry the gospel to all nations.

As the light and life of men was rejected by the ecclesiastical authorities in the days of Christ, so it has been rejected in every succeeding generation. Again and again the history of Christ's withdrawal from Judea has been repeated. When the Reformers preached the word of God, they had no thought of separating themselves from the established church but the religious leaders would not tolerate the light, and those that bore it were forced to seek another class, who were longing for the truth. In our day few of the professed followers of the Reformers are actuated by their spirit. Few are listening for the voice of God, and ready to accept truth in whatever guise it may be presented. Often those who follow in the steps of the Reformers are forced to turn away from the churches they love, in order to declare the plain teaching of the word of God. And many times those who are seeking for light are by the same teaching obliged to leave the church of their fathers, that they may render obedience." E.G. White, Desire of Ages, 232.

So, not just with ancient Israel, but in every succeeding generation, God has followed the same pattern of adjusting things connected with His Work, by the act of separating the faithful from those who will not tolerate present truth light and those who pervert the past truth and thus apostatize. Notice that only ONE REASON is given for separation from the church of the fathers: The ecclesiastical leaders would not tolerate light, just as the Jewish leaders would not tolerate THE LIGHT OF ALL LIGHT, Jesus Christ. That is how Jesus has ALWAYS worked to correct things at the Headquarters of His Work. He has always separated the faithful from the apostates when it is impossible to remove the apostates.

"And as they persisted in their rejection of the gospel the apostle (Paul) went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God. But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus." Acts, 19:8, 9.

"Even though you may not be able to speak a word to those who are working on wrong principles, leave them. Your withdrawal and silence may do more than words. Nehemiah refused to associate with those who were untrue to principle, and he would not permit his workmen to associate with them The love and fear of God were his safeguard-Dare to be a Daniel, Dare to stand alone. Thus as did Moses, you will endure the seeing of Him who is invisible. But a cowardly and silent reserve before evil associates, while you listen to their devices makes you one with them. Come out from among them and be separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty." Review & Herald Vol. 4, p. 42.

Now I will finish the considerations connected with the first statement under study:

Why the Church was no part of Babylon in Ellen White’s Lifetime

Ellen White had enough influence that she was able to nip apostasy in the bud by meeting it straight on! But she said that after her death, great changes would be made:

Great changes made by the devil after Ellen White’s death: “I am charged to tell our people, that do not realize, that the devil has device after device, and he carries them out in ways that they do not expect. Satan’s agencies will invent ways to make sinners out of saints. I tell you now, that when I am laid to rest GREAT CHANGES will take place. I do not know when I shall be taken; and I desire to warn all against the devices of the devil. I want the people to know that I warned them fully before my death.” E.G. White, Manuscript 1, February 24, 1915.

What do we need folk, a kick in the face?! Ellen White clearly said that the devil would make great changes so effectively that his agencies would make sinners out of saints! Did you get that?!

Ellen White gave you fair warning! She said: “I want the people to know that I warned them fully before my death.”!

Do you believe that statement by Ellen White? Is that EVIDENCE that serious changes would occur?

What Would the “Great Changes” Consist of?

“The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A new organization would be established. Books of a new order would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath, of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless.” Selected Messages, book 1, pp. 204, 205.

Every principle of the above statement has been fulfilled. The adoption of the Trinity Doctrine alone does away with the entire Christian economy by denying that the Son of God emptied Himself of His Holy Spirit ONLY state of Being, to become combined with humanity forever, and that it was then that the Holy Spirit became a third, separate and distinct person, because the humanity of Christ cumbered His former Holy Spirit state of Being so that the Holy Spirit was divested of Christ’s humanity in the heavenly Sanctuary sacrifice from the foundation of the earth.

All of the above occurred in the Heavenly Sanctuary from the foundation of the world. Without that FOREVER sacrifice, there would have been no Sanctuary Service, no Atonement from man’s sins. So to teach as the Trinity doctrine does, that the Holy Spirit was always a third, distinct person, scraps the entire Christian economy. That is what has occurred in the omega of apostasy.

The same result would have occurred in the alpha of apostasy had it materialized. The Trinity Doctrine, the central doctrine of Rome, is nothing more than a spiritualistic theory of man that contradicts the definition of the Holy Spirit as given by Ellen White—that the Holy Spirit is the soul of the life of Christ, and that His Holy Spirit was cumbered by His humanity and became divested of His Humanity in the heavenly Sanctuary when He was slain there from the foundation of the earth. This has everything to do with the personality of Christ and the “highest good, crowing sacrifice that heaven can bestow.”

"The spiritualistic theories regarding the personality of God [the Godhead], followed to their logical conclusion, sweep away the whole Christian economy. They estimate as nothing the light that Christ came from heaven to give John to give to His people. They teach that the scenes just before us are not of sufficient importance to be given special attention. They make of no effect the truth of heavenly origin, and rob the people of God of their past experience, giving them instead a false science." E.G. White, 1SM, p. 204.

The Trinity Doctrine does away with the pillar, landmark Adventism involved with the personality of God and Christ and the Sanctuary Service and Atonement made in heaven from the foundation of the earth.

Personality of God and of Christ—Pillar, Landmark, Doctrines of Pioneer Adventism

"Those who seek to remove the old landmarks are not holding fast they are not remembering how they have received and heard. Those who try to bring in theories that would remove the pillars of our faith concerning the sanctuary or concerning the personality of God or of Christ, are working as blind men. They are seeking to bring in uncertainties and to set the people of God adrift without an anchor." {MR760 9.5}

Ship Drifting at Sea Without Chart or Compass: "The facts concerning the real condition of the professed people of God, speak more loudly than their profession, and make it evident that some power has cut the cable that anchored them to the Eternal Rock, and that they are drifting away to sea, without chart or compass." E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 2, p. 128, (Review and Herald, Vol. 2, p. 231). (Also see Fundamentals of Christian Education, p. 348).

The Omega of Apostasy to Continue and Wax Stronger Until Jesus Comes

Wax stronger "One thing it is certain is soon to be realized, the great apostasy, which is developing and increasing and waxing stronger, and will continue to do so until the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout. We are to hold fast the first principles of our denominated faith, and go forward from strength to increased faith. Ever we are to keep the faith that has been substantiated by the Holy Spirit of God from the earlier events of our experience until the present time. We need now larger breadth, and deeper, more earnest, unwavering faith in the leadings of the Holy Spirit. If we needed the manifest proof of the Holy Spirit's power to confirm truth in the beginning, after the passing of the time, we need to-day all the evidence in the confirmation of the truth, when souls are departing from the faith and giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. There must not be any languishing of soul now." (E.G. White, Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7, p. 57).

So, nothing is allowed to stand in the way of the new movement; it will NEVER AGAIN show the House of Jacob its sins, and the Omega of Apostasy will wax stronger until Jesus comes. These are just some of the abominations for which we are to sigh and cry about; some of the sins we are to show God’s people, Isaiah 58:1, and Ellen White says that all of that chapter of Isaiah is OUR WORK.

Ellen White’s Response to the Alpha of Apostasy—Did Ellen White Ever Advocate Separation From the SDA Church Militant?

Most SDA’s are unaware that Ellen White advocated separation from the church and its campmeetings when the church was not doing God’s will.

“I have a work to do, and I am now making decisions. I must remain away from conference meetings. I must not attend camp meetings. The spirit of drawing apart, as the result of judging one another, has become so common, and the churches are becoming so leavened with this spirit, that I have no desire to attend these meetings. After returning from them, it is often weeks before I am able to take up my neglected work.

Because those in positions of responsibility have for years left the Southern field unworked, notwithstanding the most decided testimonies urging them to take up this work because they continue to neglect this field and use every manner of device in trying to uproot the confidence of the people in those who have done the hardest and most self-sacrificing work in the South, I have but very little confidence that the Lord is giving these men in positions of responsibility spiritual eyesight and heavenly discernment. I am thrown into perplexity over their course and I desire now to attend to my special work, to have no part in any of their councils, and to attend no camp-meetings, nigh nor afar off. My mind shall not be dragged into confusion by the tendency they manifest to work directly contrary to the light that God has given me. I am done. I will preserve my God-given intelligence.” (17MR 64.2&3)

Ellen White is referring to Kellogg and those who united with him in the Alpha of Apostasy. Her counsel in the Alpha was to come out from Kellogg and his associates:

"There is a little hope in one direction: Take the young men and women, and place them where they will come as little in contact with our churches as possible, that the low grade of piety which is current in this day shall not leaven their ideas of what it means to be a Christian." E.G. White, Manuscript Release #995, p. 5.

"Brother and sister Haskell have rented a house in one of the best parts of the city, and have gathered round them a family of helpers, who day by day go out giving Bible readings, selling our papers, and doing medical missionary work. During the hour of worship, the workers relate their experiences. Bible studies are regularly conducted in the home, and THE YOUNG MEN AND YOUNG WOMEN connected with the mission receive a practical, thorough training in holding Bible readings and in selling our publications. The Lord has blessed their labors, a number have embraced the truth, and many others are deeply interested." Review and Herald, September 7, 1905, Evangelism, p. 108.

Another Coming Out Statement

The following statement was written during the Alpha of Apostasy involving Kellogg and company. Ultimately, the Alpha was MET by Ellen White. But she said NOTHING WOULD BE ALLOWED TO STAND IN THE WAY OF THE NEW MOVEMENT that has obviously formed within, "among" the church like a Trojan Horse implementation.

In the following statement, notice how God was working to set everything in order; to adjust matters at the head of the work; and to right every wrong in the Alpha of Apostasy in the SDA church, circa 1904-5:

“There will have to be a second conversion in the hearts of some of our leading medical fraternity, and a cutting away from the men who are trying to guide the medical ship into the harbor, else they themselves will never reach the haven of rest. Christ calls, Come out from among them, and be ye separate.

I write this because any moment my life may be ended. Unless there is a BREAKING AWAY from the influence that Satan has prepared, and a reviving of the testimonies that God has given, souls will perish in their delusion. They will accept fallacy after fallacy, and will thus keep up a disunion that will always exist until those who have been deceived take their stand on the right platform. All this higher education that is being planned will be extinguished for it is spurious. The more simple the education of our workers, the less connection they have with the men whom God is not leading, the more will be accomplished. Work will be done in the simplicity of true godliness, and the old, old times will be back. LOOK UP THIS STATEMENT FOR THE REST OF THE QUOTE. Special Testimonies, Series B., No. 7 (1906), p. 63.

The above statement is written in the “IF” AND “WHEN” CONDITIONAL TENSE, being predicated upon the word “UNLESS!”

What would Ellen White say about the church adopting the World’s Accreditation Standards in 1930, just 15 years after her death?! What would she say about the spurious “higher education” SDA leaders and laity are imbibing today in the quest of mammon?! If Ellen White said COME OUT FROM THEM in the Alpha, what in the name of God Almighty and Jesus, would she say today in the Omega of Apostasy?!

"The fifty-eighth chapter of Isaiah contains instruction for TODAY. 'Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show MY PEOPLE their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sin...." The work would not have been hindered as it has been for the past several years if Dr. Kellogg were a converted man. "Come," I call, "come ye out and be separate from him and his associates whom he has leavened." I am now giving the message God has given me, to give to all who claim to believe the truth: "Come out from among them, and be ye separate,' else their sin in justifying wrongs and framing deceits will continue to be the ruin of souls." E.G. White, SpTB07, Testimonies for the Church Containing Messages of Warning and Instruction to Seventh-day Adventists, pr. 02, p. 64.

The same principle applies in the OMEGA, which permits NOTHING to stand in its way, 1SM, pp. 204-5. Ellen White stopped the Alpha, but she said "nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement," and that it would remove God.

"The things you have described as taking place in Indiana, the Lord has shown me would take place just before the close of probation. Every uncouth thing will be demonstrated. There will be shouting, with drums, music, and dancing. The senses of rational beings will become so confused that they cannot be trusted to make right decisions. And this is called the moving of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit never reveals itself in such methods, in such a bedlam of noise. This is an invention of Satan to cover up his ingenious methods for making of none effect the pure, sincere, elevating, ennobling, sanctifying truth for this time. Better never have the worship of God blended with music than to use musical instruments to do the work which last January was represented to me would be brought into our camp meetings. The truth for this time needs nothing of this kind in its work of converting souls." 2 SM 36.

When the camp meeting is ended, the good which ought to have been done and which might have been done by the presentation of sacred truth is not accomplished. Those participating in the supposed revival receive impressions which lead them adrift. They cannot tell what they formerly knew regarding Bible principles. {2SM 37.1}

Kirk Weidman, an SDA engineer, has produced a video that shows how the above statement has been EXACTLY fulfilled at SDA Youth Tents in its campmeetings.

“No encouragement should be given to this kind of worship. The same kind of influence came in after the passing of the time in 1844. The same kind of representations were made. Men became excited, and were worked by a power thought to be the power of God....”{2SM 37.2}

History of the Past to Be Repeated

“I will not go into all the painful history; it is too much. But last January the Lord showed me that erroneous theories and methods would be brought into our camp meetings, and that the history of the past would be repeated. I felt greatly distressed. I was instructed to say that at these demonstrations demons in the form of men are present, working with all the ingenuity that Satan can employ to make the truth disgusting to sensible people; that the enemy was trying to arrange matters so that the camp meetings, which have been the means of bringing the truth of the third angel's message before multitudes, should lose their force and influence. {2SM 37.3}

The third angel's message is to be given in straight lines. It is to be kept free from every thread of the cheap, miserable inventions of men's theories, prepared by the father of lies, and disguised as was the brilliant serpent used by Satan as a medium of deceiving our first parents. Thus Satan tries to put his stamp upon the work God would have stand forth in purity. {2SM 37.4}

The Holy Spirit has nothing to do with such a confusion of noise and multitude of sounds as passed before me last January. Satan works amid the din and confusion of such music, which, properly conducted, would be a praise and glory to God. He makes its effect like the poison sting of the serpent. {2SM 37.5}

Those things which have been in the past will be in the future. Satan will make music a snare by the way in which it is conducted. God calls upon His people, who have the light before them in the Word and in the Testimonies, to read and consider, and to take heed. Clear and definite instruction has been given in order that all may understand. But the itching desire to originate something new results in strange doctrines, and largely destroys the influence of those who would be a power for good if they held firm the beginning of their confidence in the truth the Lord had given them. {2SM 38.1}

"Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip [margin: "run out as leaking vessels"]. For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him?" (Heb. 2:1-3). "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end" (Heb. 3:12-14). {2SM 38.2}

Brother and Sister Haskell, we must put on every piece of the armor, and having done all, stand firm. We are set as a defense for the gospel, and we must compose a part of the Lord's grand army for aggressive warfare. By the Lord's faithful ambassadors the truth must be presented in clear-cut lines. Much of that which today is called testing truth is twaddle which leads to a resistance of the Holy Spirit.... {2SM 38.3}

Defective Presentation Regarding the Holy Spirit

“Much is being said regarding the impartation of the Holy Spirit, and by some this is being so interpreted that it is an injury to the churches. Eternal life is the receiving of the living elements in the Scriptures and doing the will of God. This is eating the flesh and drinking the blood of the Son of God. To those who do this, life and immortality are brought to light through the gospel, for God's Word is verity and truth, spirit and life. It is the privilege of all who believe in Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour to feed on the Word of God. The Holy Spirit's influence renders that Word, the Bible, an immortal truth, which to the prayerful searcher gives spiritual sinew and muscle. {2SM 38.4}

"Search the scriptures," Christ declared, "for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me" (John 5:39). Those who dig beneath the surface discover the hidden gems of truth. The Holy Spirit is present with the earnest searcher. Its illumination shines upon the Word, stamping the truth upon the mind with a new, fresh importance. The searcher is filled with a sense of peace and joy never before felt. The preciousness of truth is realized as never before. A new, heavenly light shines upon the Word, illuminating it as though every letter were tinged with gold. God Himself has spoken to the mind and heart, making the Word spirit and life. {2SM 39.1}

Every true searcher of the Word lifts his heart to God, imploring the aid of the Spirit. And he soon discovers that which carried him above all the fictitious statements of the would-be teacher, whose weak, tottering theories are not sustained by the Word of the living God. These theories were invented by men who had not learned the first great lesson, that God's Spirit and life are in His Word. If they had received in the heart the eternal element contained in the Word of God, they would see how tame and expressionless are all efforts to get something new to create a sensation. They need to learn the very first principles of the Word of God; they would then have the word of life for the people, who will soon distinguish the chaff from the wheat, for Jesus left His promise with His disciples.--Letter 132, 1900. {2SM 39.2}

"Some are not satisfied with a meeting unless they have a powerful and happy time. They work for this and get up an excitement of feeling. But the influence of such meetings is not beneficial. When the happy flight of feeling is gone, they sink lower than before the meeting because their happiness did not come from the right source. The most profitable meetings for spiritual advancement are those which are characterized with solemnity and deep searching of heart; each seeking to know himself, and earnestly, and in deep humility, seeking to learn of Christ." 1T 412

Presence principle: "While manifesting perfect trust in his Father, he [Christ] would not place himself, unbidden, in a position that would necessitate the interposition of his Father to save him from death. He would not force Providence to come to his rescue, and thus fail of giving man an example of trust and submission." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 5, p. 412, col. 3, May 14, 1908.

Ecumenism--Dialoging with the enemy.-- "By parleying with the enemy we give him an advantage." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 5, May 14, 1908, p. 412, col. 2.

"We should never give sanction to sin by our words, our deeds, our silence or our presence." Desire of Ages, 152.

"And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out. And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you fact to face. Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God. And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant: And I will PURGE OUT FROM AMONG YOU THE REBELS, AND THEM THAT TRANSGRESS AGAINST ME: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord." Ezekiel 20:34-38.

One final remnant is brought out and sanctified. It is they who purge out the rebels from the Kingdom of Heaven, Heb. 12:22, 23 cf. Matthew 13:44 and on, and Isaiah 37:31, 32.

What Would Ellen White be Forced to do Today in Order to be Consistent with God’s Word and Her Teaching Concerning the Alpha of Apostasy?

Clearly, she would say just as she said in the Alpha: Come out and be separate!

Where did Ellen White Draw a Line in the Sand?

When Kellogg and party were teaching erroneous doctrines that destroyed the entire Christian economy. The Trinity Doctrine does EXACTLY that, by a teaching that denies the sacrifice of the Son of God made in the heavenly Sanctuary, at the foundation of the earth. Such a teaching destroys the Sanctuary and the Atonement, thus the entire Christian economy. If any reader desires more on this subject, my Website has much more detail. Just search the word GODHEAD at the intra-site search engine at the following link:

https://omega77.tripod.com/AAAEXP.htm

Ellen White met the Alpha of Apostasy, But she said that nothing would be allowed to stand in the omega of apostasy—that it would wax stronger until Jesus comes. So what is the implied duty of every true and faithful Seventh-day Adventist? To do just as she instructed in the Alpha, Come out and be separate from the prevailing iniquity.

What is the Difference Between Playing the Harlot and Becoming Married to God’s Enemies?

Israel played the harlot but God still pleaded with them to reform. Adventists have played the harlot. So when does harlotry progress to becoming married to God’s enemies? And is that God’s line in the sand whereby a people commit unpardonable sin?

Read Jeremiah 11:9-15 and prayerfully decide for yourselves. When God instructs Jeremiah to not even pray for his generation of Jews, that implies unpardonable sin on a generational basis.

When a new movement removes God, and will NEVER AGAIN show the House of Jacob its sins, 1SM 204-5 and Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211, respectively, please tell me how that is the Noble Ship that bears the people of God safely into port? Please make it your personal duty to save my soul by showing me how that is possible under those conditions.

God’s line in the sand is Association, Counsel/Council, Girding and/or Confederacy with Babylon, error. The only option for that act AFTER knowing the truth, is being broken in pieces, repeated thrice in Isaiah 8:9-13. That means Ezekiel 9 destruction, and the margin meaning of slaughter weapons in Ezekiel 9:2 [KJV], is “his weapon of breaking in pieces.

Joining Babylon’s Associations, Councils/Counsels, Girdings and/or Confederacies/Conspiracies AFTER knowing the truth, is marriage to the Synagogue of Satan. That is what Jesus accused the apostate Jews of doing, and then He “gathered out” from them those who would take the gospel to the world, DA, 232 and Matthew 22:1-10. God does not choose a bride for His Son who is already married, and married to Satan. That is the point at which God considers a former church as being rather the Synagogue of Satan.

Ellen White did not leave the church because it only played the harlot in her day. It never progressed to the point of marriage to Satan’s confederacy and adopting Rome’s Central Doctrine, the Trinity Doctrine, which destroys the entire Christian economy. It had not married itself to the world by adoption of the World’s Accreditation Standards for education.

Did Anyone Separate From Israel’s Temple of Worship Before the Close of Israel’s Probation? I’ve covered that before in this series, but regard it as so important I will repeat it:

Were There Independent Home Churches BEFORE the General Close of Probation for Apostate Israel?

Jesus gathered out those who would take the gospel to the world, Desire of Ages, 232. He did that as one of the first acts of His ministry in A.D. 27. Some, like Laval Picard, a former SDA minister, are teaching that in the prefigure (type), only those who were being taught to give the gospel to the world were being gathered out. Thus, he justifies himself as being out of the church, but he says others must remain and that there is no call out message.

Laval Picard’s premise is dead wrong! How? Why?

Jews of Shiloh (above quote), left the precincts of the tabernacle and sacrificed at home centuries before the general close of probation for Israel. Why? Because they feared their children and youth would be corrupted by the recreant priests. So Laval is wrong.

Then, we have the example of faithful reformers leaving the church of their fathers in every succeeding generation for ONE REASON GIVEN: The leaders would not tolerate light. Desire of Ages, p. 232.

Scripture on Home Churches

Act 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

Act 16:34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

Act 16:40 And they went out of the prison, and entered into [the house of] Lydia: and when they had seen the brethren, they comforted them, and departed.

Act 18:7 And he departed thence, and entered into a certain [man's] house, named Justus, [one] that worshipped God, whose house joined hard to the synagogue.

Rom 16:5 Likewise [greet] the church that is in their house. Salute my well beloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.

1Cr 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them [which are of the house] of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.

1Cr 16:15 I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and [that] they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)

1Cr 16:19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.

Was the Professing Jewish Apostate Church Broken up Into Atoms by the Separation of Jesus and the Faithful Christian?

No, the apostate Jewish church was not broken up into atoms by the separation of the faithful Christians. And neither will the professing SDA apostate church be so broken up until it experiences another Ezekiel 9 slaughtering destruction, which Ellen White says will be LITERAL, just as LITERAL as the Jewish church was destroyed in A.D. 70, Chapter 1, The Great Controversy. And why? Because both married into the Synagogue of Satan after being “chosen” of God, and being given the pure truth.

This ends my series of responses to my friend Paulo and his family. I pray that these answers will encourage Paulo and his family to do the right thing, for it is IMPOSSIBLE to unite with corrupt apostates and mature as wheat and/or become or remain pure. And that is God’s assessment of the matter, not mine.

If there are any more questions about any statement by Ellen White regarding the church and its outcome, I would be more than happy to address such according to the weight of evidence and in a manner that will be irrefutable by the weight of evidence.

May God’s richest blessing accompany those who will step out to do His Will, is my every prayer and motive,

Ron Beaulieu