Questions Jesus Would Ask About
The Trinity Doctrine,
His Human Nature,
and
Alpha & Omega Heresies
This document
deals with questions Jesus would pose regarding the Trinity Doctrine, His human
nature, Alpha and Omega heresies, as well as other abominations that have been
committed by SDA church leaders. We know that a most effective method Jesus
employed in teaching the great truths of the gospel was to ask poignant
questions, the obvious answer to which would expose error and enthrone truth.
Before I ask the questions that Jesus might ask concerning these issues, I will
give some important relative background information that is requisite to
understanding the answers to the questions Jesus might ask.
What do we know
about God’s Nature?
Answer:
God’s NATURE is what He consists of--His essence, His substance. We are never to
debate the NATURE of God, because all we know about His NATURE is that He is
SPIRIT--ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT. The Father and the Son have that same ONE ETERNAL
SPIRIT. That is what makes them ONE GOD.
“The nature of the Holy
Spirit is a mystery. Men cannot explain it, because the Lord has not revealed
it to them. Men having fanciful views may bring together passages of Scripture
and put a human construction on them; but the acceptance of these views will
not strengthen the church. Regarding such mysteries, which are too deep for human understanding,
silence is golden.”
{FLB 54.5}
The
truth about the Incarnation is a mystery as well, but we are given so much
information about that sacrifice, that all the knowledge on the personality of
God and Christ (The Godhead) is spoken of by Ellen G. White as pillar, landmark
doctrines that mean everything to us:
Godhead as a pillar doctrine
--
Personality of God and of Christ Landmarks: "Those who seek to remove the
old landmarks are not holding
fast they are not remembering how they have received and heard. Those who try
to bring in theories that would remove the pillars
of our faith concerning the sanctuary or concerning
the personality of God or of Christ, are working as blind men. They are seeking to bring in uncertainties and to
set the people of God adrift without an anchor." {MR760 9.5}
Ellen White to
Kellogg in the Alpha
"You
are not definitely clear on the personality of God, which is everything to us
as a people. You have virtually destroyed the Lord God Himself." EGW letter 300 1903.
The
personality of God factor which is everything to us as a people,
is the Incarnation truth around which all other truths cluster.
“The
[INCARNATION] sacrifice of Christ as an atonement for sin is the great
truth around which all other truths cluster.
In order to be rightly understood and appreciated, every truth in the Word of God, from Genesis to
Revelation, must be studied in the light that streams from the cross of
Calvary. I present before you the great, grand monument of mercy and
regeneration, salvation and redemption - the Son of God uplifted on the cross.
This is to be the foundation of every discourse given by our ministers.” {GW 315.2}
Note: Some misinterpret Ellen White to say that
we cannot understand the Incarnation because Ellen White says it is a mystery.
Above, Ellen White says also that it is the great truth around which all other
truths cluster. So if we cannot understand and appreciate the Incarnation
sacrifice, then we can’t understand the gospel or any other truth, because all
other truths of the bible cluster around that truth!
"The
[INCARNATION] humanity of the Son of God is EVERYTHING to
us. It is
the golden chain that binds our souls to Christ, and
through Christ to God. This is to be our
study. Christ
was a real man. He gave proof of His humility in becoming a man. Yet He was God in the flesh. When we
approach this subject, we would do well to heed the words spoken by Christ to
Moses at the burning bush, 'Put off thy shoes from off they feet, for the place
where on thou standest is holy ground.' We
should come to this study with the humility of a learner, with contrite heart. And the study of the Incarnation of Christ is a fruitful field,
which will repay the searcher who digs deep for hidden truth." E.G.
White, The Youth's Instructor, Oct. 13,
1898.
Note:
If the Incarnation cannot be understood, why does Ellen White say that a study
of this subject is a fruitful field, which will repay the searcher who digs deep for hidden truth?
Who Cannot Understand the
Incarnation?
Some
just can’t seem to grasp the great truth of the Incarnation around which all
other truths cluster! Why is this?
“Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. The carnal mind cannot
comprehend these mysteries. . . . The worldly-wise have attempted to explain upon
scientific principles the influence of the Spirit of God upon the heart. The
least advance in this direction will lead the soul into the mazes of
skepticism. The
religion of the Bible is simply the mystery of godliness; no human mind can
fully understand it, and it is utterly incomprehensible to the unregenerate
heart. {FLB
54.4}
The
nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery. Men cannot explain it, because the Lord has not
revealed it to them. Men having fanciful views may bring together passages of
Scripture and put a human construction on them; but the acceptance of these
views will not strengthen the church. Regarding such mysteries, which are
too deep for human understanding, silence is golden.” {FLB 54.5}
Note:
Some use the above statement to maintain that the Godhead and the Incarnation
are a mystery that is too deep for human understanding, so silence is golden.
They fail to see the qualifying words:
· Spiritual things are
spiritually discerned. So the carnal mind can’t comprehend the mysteries of the
Godhead and the Incarnation.
· The unregenerate heart cannot comprehend this subject.
·
The context of the
latter part of the statement says that the NATURE of the Holy Spirit is a
mystery. The NATURE of the Holy Spirit is what it consists of--the essence, the
substance of it. All the Bible says about the NATURE of the Holy Spirit is that
GOD IS A SPIRIT, and that there is ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT possessed by God the
Father, and God the Holy Spirit, the Divine Nature of the Son of God.
· Jhn 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
·
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who
through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your
conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
The Father and the Son have the same substance, essence,
SPIRIT--That is what makes them ONE GOD:
“The Jews had never before heard such words from human lips, and a convicting
influence attended them; for it seemed that divinity flashed through humanity
as Jesus said, ‘I and My Father are One.’
The words of Christ were full of deep
meaning as He put forth the
claim that He and the Father were of one substance, possessing the same
attributes.—The Signs of the Times, November 27, 1893, p. 54. {7ABC 437.3}
· The human nature of Christ must subscribe to the Spirit of the Father, just as we must subscribe to the Spirit of Christ’s Holy Spirit Divine Nature, for empowerment to overcoming.
·
Proof that Christ’s
humanity depended/depends upon the ONE ETERNALLY HOLY SPIRIT of His Father for
empowerment is found in this Bible verse:
·
Jhn 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and
the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I
speak not of myself: but the Father that
dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
"Christ's life represents a
perfect manhood. Just that which you may be. He was in
human nature. He took our infirmities. He was not only made flesh but He was
made in the likeness of sinful flesh." EGW, 5 Bible Commentary, p. 1124.
“He took upon Him our sinful
nature.” Ellen White, Review and Herald,
12/15/96.
1Jo 4:3 And every
spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not
of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard
that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jo 1:7 For many
deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come
in the flesh.
Dwell
More on the Incarnation and Atonement.--“If Christ is all and in all to every
one of us, why
are not His Incarnation and His atoning sacrifice dwelt upon more in the
churches? Why are
not hearts and tongues employed in the Redeemer's praise? This will be the
employment of the powers of the redeemed through the ceaseless ages of
eternity." E.G. White, Selected Messages, Book 3, p. 187.
Atonement
-- "The [Incarnation] atonement of Christ is not a mere skillful way to
have our sins pardoned; it is a divine remedy for the cure of transgression and
the restoration of spiritual health. It is the heaven-ordained means by which
the righteousness of Christ may be not only upon us, but in our hearts and
characters.--Letter
406, 1906." E.G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7a, 464.
“Christ,
in His incarnation, "took upon Himself our fallen nature" (Youth's
Instructor, December 20, 1900 Review & Herald, December 15,
1896).
· The Incarnation act was the
“prescribed limit” of a sacrifice made to take upon HIMSELF
our sins. Christ paid the penalty of our sins by taking upon Himself our fallen
human nature, and taking upon that nature our sins, and proving that He could
remain an overcomer even while taking upon Himself all man’s repented of sins.
· Christ thereby proved that we
can overcome by partaking of the same Spirit, His Holy Spirit, which is given
to empower us to overcome sin, in the same way God’s Spirit was given to
empower Christ.
· Romans 1:5
says that
grace is given for obedience and apostleship. Ellen White defines grace as the
Holy Spirit:
·
“They must have His
grace, the Spirit of Christ, to help their infirmities, or they cannot form
a Christian character. Jesus loves to have us come to Him, just as we
are—sinful, helpless, dependent.” Faith and Works, p. 38.
·
“There must be a power
working from within, a new life from above, before man can be changed
from sin to holiness. That power is
Christ. His grace [the Spirit of Christ] alone can quicken the lifeless
faculties of the soul, and attract it to God, to holiness.” (ST, May 28, 1902,
par. 3).
·
“If you would be a saint in
heaven you must first be a saint on earth. The traits of character you cherish
in life will not be changed by death or by the resurrection. You will come up
from the grave with the same disposition you manifested in your home and in
society. Jesus does not change the character at His coming. The
work of transformation must be done now. Our daily lives are determining our
destiny. Defects of character must be repented of and overcome through the grace of Christ, and a symmetrical character must be formed while in this probationary
state, that we may be fitted for the mansions above.” -- E. G. White, 13MR 82
(1891). {LDE 295.1}
"The darkness rolled
away from the Saviour and from the Cross. Christ bowed His head and died. In His Incarnation He had reached the prescribed limit as
a sacrifice, but not as a redeemer." E.G. White Manuscript Releases Volume
Twelve, p. 409.
What is the “prescribed limit” as a sacrifice? Answer:
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be
the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it
is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
·
Where there is a broken testament (Covenant--Law), there must of
NECESSITY be death of the Testator (giver of the Covenant).
·
If the Testator did not die to something eternally, the
Testament (Covenant) is of no force, no count, invalid, of no strength at all,
while the Testator of the Covenant lives.
·
The wages of breaking the Covenant Testament is eternal death.
If the Testator of the Covenant did not die to something eternally, the
Covenant has not been satisfied, ratified in heaven--no Sanctuary Atonement
process would have taken place.
What did the Testator die to
eternally in order to meet the prescribed limit of a sacrifice that would
constitute the Testator being dead to something forever so that the Testament
is of strength forever?
Answer: The Testator, the Holy Spirit essence,
substance of the one eternal Holy Spirit of the Son of God, must die to His
former eternal existence as being ONLY THE DIVINE NATURE HOLY SPIRIT, ergo He
had to manifest Himself as God come in the likeness of sinful flesh (in addition
to retaining His Holy Spirit Divine Nature as heaven’s highest good, crowing
gift to man), while retaining His Humanity forever, as a forever, eternal
sacrificial prescribed limit of a sacrifice by the Testator of the Everlasting
Covenant. He could no longer exist in His former eternal form of being DIVINE
NATURE HOLY SPIRIT ONLY. He must divest His Holy Spirit from His human
personality and become a human priest forever, to wit:
22By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.
23And they truly were many
priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:
24But this man, because he
continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that
come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for
them.
26For such an
high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners,
and made higher than the heavens;
27Who needeth not daily, as
those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for
the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up
himself.
28For the law maketh men high
priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the
law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. Hebrews 7:22-28.
"By
His life and His death, Christ has achieved even more than recovery from the
ruin wrought through sin. It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal
separation between God and man but in Christ we become more closely united to
God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the
Saviour has bound himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He
is linked with us. 'God so loved the world, that He gave His
only begotten Son.' [John 3:16]. He gave Him not only to bear our sins,
and to die as our sacrifice He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only
Begotten Son to become one of the human family forever
to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. 'Unto us a child
is born unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon His shoulder.' God has adopted human nature
in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the 'Son of man' who
shares the throne of the universe. It is the 'Son of man' whose name shall be
called, 'Wonderful, Counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the
prince of Peace.' [Isa. 9:6]. The I Am is the Daysman between God and humanity,
laying His hand upon both. HE who is 'holy, harmless,
undefiled, separate from sinners,' is not ashamed to call us brethren. [Heb. 7:26 2:11.] In Christ the family of earth and the
family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is
enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite
love." The Desire of Ages, 25
·
The words “Jesus made surety of a better Testament,” refer to
the fact that He was the Testator of the Testament. The surety for the better
Testament is the prescribed limit of His sacrifice--His death to His former
existence as DIVINE NATURE HOLY SPIRIT ONLY--to become a human priest forever,
which sacrifice paid the price for our sins, the wages of which is eternal
death. His sacrifice must equal our penalty. He met that “prescribed limit” of
a sacrifice to atone for the breach in His law, His Covenant, by man.
·
The better Testament is the New Covenant, whereby by His eternal
sacrifice of divesting Himself from His Holy Spirit ONLY existence, He chose to
give us that Divine Nature for the purpose of overcoming all sin. By that gift,
the highest good, crowning gift that heaven can bestow, He indwells us when we
die to self, and He empowers us to overcome all the corruption and lust (sins)
of the world.
·
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us
exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of
the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through
lust.
·
"Christ
declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter,
who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life
of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a
power that takes away sin.
In the
gift of the Spirit, Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could
bestow....
The
Spirit was given as a regenerating agency, and without this the
sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....
It is
by the Spirit that the heart is made pure.
Through the Spirit the believer becomes a
partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given his Spirit as a divine power to overcome
all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress his own character
upon the church." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, May 19,
1904, vol. 5, p. 42.
·
The Holy Spirit is the Comforter, the soul of the Divine life of
Christ. This is extremely important, and there is support in the Bible for this
fact as we will discover further along in this document.
How the Alpha
Heresy Swept Away the Entire Christian Economy
Did you ever wonder how and why the Alpha heresy swept away the
entire Christian economy? I venture to say that most SDA pastors would have no
true answer to this question. Why? Because Ellen White said that the
ministering brethren were looking on but did not seem to understand, and they
are still “dumb dogs that cannot understand” (Isaiah 56:10-12), and the fact
that they adopted the Trinity Doctrine is proof of this fact!
In the Alpha heresy, Kellogg taught that the Holy Spirit of God
was in every living, created thing. That is pantheism. So the Omega would have
to teach similar teachings on pantheism and I deal with that elsewhere in this
document.
Sanctuary Gone Atonement Gone -- "In a
representation which passed before me, I saw a certain work being done by
medical missionary workers. Our ministering brethren were looking on,
watching what was being done, but they did not seem to understand. The foundation of our faith,
which was established by so much prayer, such earnest searching of the
Scriptures, was being taken down, pillar by pillar. Our faith was to have
nothing to rest upon--the sanctuary was gone, the atonement was gone." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 152.
The
Alpha, if embraced, would remove the foundation of the Adventist faith (the
Sanctuary Service Atonement). It rendered the Sanctuary Atonement as GONE! How?
Why? Because the Incarnation Sanctuary/Atonement had to be
fulfilled in order for the Holy Spirit to indwell humans. The Holy Spirit
of God cannot indwell humans who have not been pardoned and born again. So for
Kellogg (or anyone) to teach that all things (including humans) are indwelt by
the Spirit of God or the Holy Spirit, BEFORE THE HEAVENLY INCARNATION
SANCTUARY/ATONEMENT SACRIFICE, does total despite to that sacrifice, and thus
sweeps away not only the foundation of Adventism but the entire Christian
economy--by teaching that man can be invested with the Spirit of God without
the terms of the Everlasting Covenant--death of the Testator--the heavenly
Sanctuary/Atonement Incarnation sacrifice, that first makes man fit for the indwelling of
the Holy Spirit by enabling him to overcome and be born again.
"The
spiritualistic theories regarding the personality of God [the Godhead], followed to their logical conclusion,
sweep away the whole Christian economy. They estimate as nothing the light that Christ
came from heaven to give John to give to His people. They teach that the scenes
just before us are not of sufficient importance to be given special attention.
They make of no effect the truth of heavenly origin, and rob the people of God
of their past experience, giving them instead a false science." E.G.
White, Selected Messages, Bk.1, p. 204.
How
do the Alpha and Omega Heresies Result in the Following:
· Pantheism
· The foundation of our faith is
removed. The foundation is the Sanctuary Atonement. How is
this removed by the Alpha and the Omega heresies?
· Kellogg’s Alpha heresy swept
away the whole Christian economy. The Trinity Doctrine sweeps away the whole
Christian economy. How? Why?
Pantheism in the
Alpha and Omega Heresies
Kellogg’s teaching that the Holy Spirit of the
Father was in everything that was created, was pure pantheism. He later changed
to say that it was the Holy Spirit that was in everything, but both were
pantheism. How did this teaching remove the Sanctuary Atonement? It was only by
the Sanctuary Atonement sacrifice that the Holy Spirit could be given to us as
the “highest good, crowing gift that heaven could bestow.” The Holy Spirit
could not indwell (abide in) sinners. So the gift of the Holy Spirit was
provided to empower us to overcome sin.
If every living thing to include humans already had
the Holy Spirit in them as Kellogg taught, that would remove the necessity of
the Incarnation Sanctuary Atonement that provided the gift of the Holy Spirit
that empowers us to overcome so that the Holy Spirit can indwell us. Thus, the
Sanctuary Atonement would be rendered as GONE, and that sweeps away the entire
Christian economy that is based on the Incarnation Sanctuary Atonement of the
Son of God--by which He came in the likeness of sinful human flesh--ANOTHER
PERSON TO THE GODHEAD WHO WAS NOT ETERNAL, for God had never before been
combined with humanity prior to the Incarnation of Christ.
Bible text that teaches that it is the Holy Spirit that
empowers us to overcome iniquity.
Acts
3:26 Unto you
first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning
away every one of you from his iniquities.
Ellen White saying the same thing in other words:
"The
Power of God in the Third Person.--The prince of the power of evil can only be
held in check by the power of God in the third person of the Godhead, the Holy
Spirit.”-- Special Testimonies, Series A,
No. 10, p. 37. (1897).
How the Trinity
Doctrine Achieves the Same End Result as Kellogg’s Pantheism Teaching
The Trinity Doctrine teaches that there were THREE
CO-ETERNAL PERSONS to the Godhead BEFORE THE INCARNATION SANCTUARY ATONEMENT
SACRIFICE that produced another person in addition to the Father and the Son.
The Incarnation produced the God/Man Person humanity of Christ come in the
likeness of sinful human flesh says Scripture. That is why and how another
person accrued to the Godhead. To say there were THREE CO-EQUAL PERSONS to the
Godhead from eternity, is like TOTALLY DISCOUNTING, REMOVING the Incarnation
Sanctuary Atonement sacrifice, by which A THIRD ENTITY ACCRUED TO THE GODHEAD
IN THE PERSON OF THE HUMAN NATURE OF CHRIST, God come in the likeness of sinful
flesh for the purpose of giving us the gift of His Holy Spirit, and proving
that we can overcome sin by the same power He overcame sin.
If a THIRD PERSON already existed without the
Incarnation Sanctuary Atonement sacrifice, which actually produced a THIRD
PERSON, you can see that THUSLY, THE INCARNATION SANCTUARY ATONEMENT WOULD BE
RENDERED AS DISCOUNTED, UNNECESSARY, DENIED, GONE, as the requisite sacrifice
that made the Holy Spirit gift available to man, and gave rise to a THIRD
PERSON OF THE GODHEAD. Remove the process whereby a third person actually
accrued and you remove the Incarnation Sanctuary Atonement act, which sweeps
away the whole Christian economy.
What about those who teach that there are only TWO
PERSONS to the Godhead?
Those who teach that there are only two persons to
the Godhead, verily deny the heavenly Incarnation Sanctuary Atonement that gave
rise to the God/Man person of the Godhead. Thus, they are antichrist in their
teaching.
What About
the Pantheism Element in the Omega Heresy?
The
Christian world prays for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit--RIGHT? But it
denies the very sacrifice by which a THIRD PERSON accrued--the Heavenly
Incarnation Sanctuary Atonement--by teaching that THREE CO-ETERNAL PERSONS
ALREADY EXISTED FROM ETERNITY. The only way that the Holy Spirit could indwell anyone under those
circumstances, is by the process of pantheism--the arbitrary placing of the
Holy Spirit in man WITHOUT THE INCARNATION SANCTUARY ATONEMENT SACRIFICE THAT
MADE THAT POSSIBLE. So
the belief that the Holy Spirit can indwell us without the requisite of the
heavenly Incarnation Atonement Sacrifice, is
pantheism, because that is the only way the Holy Spirit could indwell man
without the Incarnation sacrifice.
Another Way by
Which the SDA Church Fosters Pantheism
The SDA church pays annual dues to the National
Council of Churches of Christ in the U.S.A. and other National Councils of the
World Council of Churches. The World Council is the overlord agency of all its subsidiary National Councils, and the WCC includes
non-Christian, pantheistic religions in its membership. It is just as wrong to
support pantheistic religions by this means, as it is to teach pantheism.
Search Google for the World Council of Churches and pantheism and you will see
that they embrace all religions.
https://omega77.tripod.com/newagemovement.htm
New Age Pantheism Seminars at Loma Linda
https://omega77.tripod.com/newagelomalinda.htm
Questions Jesus
Would ask all Believers in the Trinity Doctrine, and
Especially Seventh-day Adventists
In the SDA book of Fundamental Doctrines, p. 16, it says:
“Seventh-day Adventists Believe. . .
There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three
co-eternal Persons. God is immortal, all-powerful, all-knowing, above all, and
ever present. He is infinite and beyond human comprehension, yet known through
His self-revelation. He is forever worthy of worship, adoration, and service by
the whole creation.--Fundamental Beliefs, 2
On page 23 of the same book, we find the following statement:
“The Relationship Within the Godhead. The
first advent of Christ gives us a much clearer insight into the triune God.
John’s Gospel reveals that the Godhead consists of God the Father (see chapter 3
of this book), God the Son (chapter 4), and God the Holy Spirit (chapter 5), a unity of
three co-eternal persons having a unique and mysterious relationship.” Seventh-day Adventists Believe. . . A
Biblical Exposition of 27 [now 28] Fundamental
Doctrines, p. 23.
It is clear from the above statements that the SDA church
believes that there are THREE CO-ETERNAL PERSONS to the Godhead:
1.
God the Father ETERNAL
2.
God the Son ETERNAL
3.
God the Holy Spirit ETERNAL
Questions Jesus
Would Ask Regarding the Above Stated Beliefs Relative to the Trinity Doctrine
·
In the above defined Godhead, where do we find any evidence of
the Incarnation of the Son of God into humanity?
·
If there are three CO-ETERNAL PERSONS to the Godhead, what about
the humanity person of Jesus Christ who retains His humanity forever according
to Scripture and Ellen G. White.
·
Scripture says that God came in the likeness of human flesh.
Before the Incarnation there was no God come in the likeness of human flesh, no
human nature of Christ.
·
Scripture says that God came in the likeness of sinful flesh.
Where in the above description of three co-eternal persons do we find the
non-eternal, post Incarnation humanity person of Christ?
The Bible Says
That The Holy Spirit is the Comforter, the Son of God | John 14 Accounts for
Only TWO PERSONS to the Godhead--The Father, the Holy Spirit Comforter (The preIncarnated Holy Spirit of the Son of God), and God the
Father
John, chapter 14, defines the Holy Spirit as the Comforter.
Jesus told His disciples that He would send them HIS HOLY SPIRIT.
Jhn 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall
give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for
ever;
Jhn 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the
world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know
him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
·
Who does the Bible define as the way, THE TRUTH, and the life? Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
·
The Spirit of truth that the Father gives us, the “another
Comforter” is the Holy Spirit of the Son of God, NOT A PERSON OTHER THAN THE
HOLY SPIRIT OF THE SON OF GOD.
Jhn 14:18
I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Jesus is speaking in the above verse. He is saying that He is
the Comforter, the Holy Spirit--that He will come to
us.
·
If Jesus is the Holy Spirit, How can the Holy Spirit be a THIRD
PERSON to the Godhead BEFORE the Incarnation? Remember, the Trinity Doctrine teaches that there were/are THREE
CO-ETERNAL PERSONS TO THE GODHEAD.
·
The truth is that there were only TWO CO-ETERNAL PERSONS to the
Godhead BEFORE the Incarnation--The Father and the Son and their ONE ETERNAL
SPIRIT--HOLY SPIRIT, which is Their substance, Their
essence, nature. That is all we know about the NATURE of God, or what He
fundamentally consists of.
Jhn 14:19 Yet a little
while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall
live also.
Jhn 14:20 At that day ye
shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
·
Jesus is saying that it is He through His Holy Spirit, the Comforter, that is in us--Not another THIRD PERSON who
existed from eternity.
·
There are THREE PERSONS after the Incarnation, as follows:
1.
The Eternal Father (The ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT)
2.
The Eternal Son (The ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT)
3.
The Holy Spirit of the Son come in the
likeness of human nature, human sinful flesh. The Holy Spirit of the Son at His
Incarnation was cumbered by His humanity, so His Holy Spirit Himself became an
independent person--adding a THIRD PERSON to the Godhead.
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Did Jesus say His Holy Spirit was another person? Yes: “If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not,
how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath
ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which IS IN HEAVEN. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,
even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him
should not perish, but have eternal life.” (John 3:12-15 KJV)
·
When Jesus spoke the
above words, He was on earth speaking with John. The Son of Man person--His
Holy Spirit HIMSELF, was in heaven.
Did
Ellen White say that the Son’s Holy Spirit Himself was separate from (divested
from) His human personality--PERSON? Yes:
"Cumbered
with humanity Christ could not be in every place personally, therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He
should leave them to go to His Father and send the
Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of
humanity and independent thereof. He would
represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit.” E.G. White, (Manuscript
Releases Volume 14 (No’s 1081-1135) MR No.1084.
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The statement is
obviously speaking of the Holy Spirit of the Son of God, Christ. His humanity cumbered
His Holy Spirit nature--PERSON, so that He could not be in every place
personally.
·
Therefore, the Son
divested the PERSON, PERSONALITY of His humanity from the PERSON, PERSONALITY
of His Divinity--His Holy Spirit HIMSELF, was independent (separated
from--divested from) the personality of His humanity. So they were two separate
persons. This is how and why the Incarnation resulted in a THIRD PERSON to the
Godhead.
·
If there had been three co-eternal persons to the Godhead before
the Incarnation, there would be FOUR afterward, and that is not the case. There
were only TWO before, and God coming in the likeness of sinful flesh, humanity,
human nature, MADE A THIRD PERSON, so that the Godhead after the Incarnation is
listed as follows:
1.
God the Eternal Father.
2.
God the Eternal Holy Spirit of the Son of God.
3.
God come in the likeness of human flesh, humanity, human nature.
Jhn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and
I
will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Jhn 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord,
how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
Jhn 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me,
he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Note: Jesus says that both He and the Father
will come unto us and make their abode with us. Does that include the PERSON of
the humanity of Christ? Nay, because Christ specifically said that His Holy
Spirit would be His successor sent to this earth. He told His disciples He
would have the Father send His (Christ’s) Spirit to us. The reason they BOTH
come to us is because they are of the same ONE ETERNAL HOLY SPIRIT.
Jhn 14:24 He that loveth me not
keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the
Father's which sent me.
Jhn 14:25 These things
have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father
will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Note: We have learned that the Comforter is
the Holy Spirit, the soul of the life of Christ’s Divine Nature Holy Spirit. It
is that Spirit and the Spirit of the Father, which are ONE AND THE SAME ONE
ETERNAL SPIRIT, that come to us.
Jhn 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto
you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not
your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
Jhn 14:28 Ye have heard how I
said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would
rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than
I.
Note: Interpreting all the evidence so that
nothing contradicts, we can only conclude that when Jesus said that “the Father
is greater than I,” He meant that the Father is greater than Jesus’ humanity.
Any other interpretation will cause many Biblical and Spirit of Prophecy
contradictions.
Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto
your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit
of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
How
the Trinity Doctrine Grieves the Holy Spirit of God
The Trinity Doctrine does not factor in the Incarnation of the
Son of God, the Testator of the Everlasting Covenant, and account Him as a
person of the Godhead, because the Trinity Doctrine teaches that there were
THREE ETERNAL PERSONS who supposedly existed BEFORE the Incarnation. That is a
lie. That lie denies the Heavenly Sanctuary Incarnation whereby the humanity
PERSON/PERSONALITY of the Holy Spirit of the Son of God, was divested,
separated from the PERSON/PERSONALITY of His humanity.
There WERE NOT three persons to the Godhead until the
Incarnation produced the human personality of the Son of God as an independent,
divested, separate person--another person adopted by the Father into the
Godhead of heaven.
The Adoption of
the Humanity of Christ Into the Godhead
The following two statements don’t contradict. The first refers
to the origin of the Son of God. The second refers to the Incarnated Son of God
being adopted into the Godhead of the highest heaven. If there had been three
persons to the Godhead from eternity, there would now be four due to the
adoption of the humanity of Christ into the Godhead.
“A complete offering has been
made; for "God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son,"-- not a son by creation, as were the
angels, nor a son by adoption, as is the
forgiven sinner, but a Son begotten in the express image of the Father's
person, and in all the brightness of his majesty and glory,
one equal with God in authority, dignity, and divine
perfection. In him dwelt all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.” Signs of the Times,
May 30, 1895.
"By His life and His death, Christ has
achieved even more than recovery from the ruin wrought through sin. It was
Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man but in
Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the
Saviour has bound himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken.
Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. 'God so loved the world, that
He gave His only begotten Son.' [John 3:16]. He gave Him not only to bear our
sins, and to die as our sacrifice He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God
gave His only Begotten Son to become one of the human family
forever to retain His human nature. This is
the pledge that God will fulfill His word. 'Unto us a child is born unto us a
son is given and the government shall be upon His shoulder.' God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried
the same into the highest heaven. It is the 'Son of man' who shares the throne of the universe. It is the 'Son of man' whose
name shall be called, 'Wonderful, Counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting
Father, the prince of Peace.' [Isa. 9:6]. The I Am is the Daysman between God
and humanity, laying His hand upon both. He who is
'holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners,' is not ashamed to call us
brethren. [Heb. 7:26 2:11.] In Christ the family of
earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our
brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is
enfolded in the bosom of Infinite love." The Desire of Ages, 25.
The Human Nature
of Christ
In the Evangelical Conferences between SDA leaders
and Dr.’s Walter Martin and Donald Grey Barnhouse,
SDA leaders agreed to the Catholic doctrine that Christ did not come in sinful
flesh, and expunged those words from the Adventist book Bible Readings for the Home Circle. Scripture says that any who do
not believe that Christ came in sinful flesh are antichrist.
Questions Jesus
Would Ask About the Heresies SDA’s Confessed to the
Evangelicals on the Human Nature of Christ
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How can we teach the truth
to other churches and call them out of Babylon, when SDA leaders compromised on
antichrist doctrine on the human nature of Christ to the Evangelicals?
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Why can’t SDA’s understand
that only those who believe Catholic teachings would agree with the
Evangelicals that Christ did not come in sinful flesh? It is interesting that a
Catholic woman has stated that she knew Leroy E. Froom to be a Catholic priest.
Froom was one of the prime collaborators with the Evangelicals in the latter
1950’s Evangelical Conferences.
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Why can’t SDA members see
that God hold’s them corporately responsible for
antichrist doctrine on something as fundamental as the human nature of Christ,
which is involved with the Incarnation sacrifice?
Other Heresies
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Why can’t SDA leaders and
members see that women’s ordination is against God’s order of the family with
the man being the priest of the family?
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Why can’t SDA’s see that
women’s ordination is against the Sanctuary Priesthood order?
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Why can’t SDA’s see that in
all of Satan’s pagan religions, a woman reigns, in contradistinction to men
being the priests in God’s Sanctuary Service structure?
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Why can’t SDA’s see that
when God says that His people are led by women and children, that this finds
fulfillment in women’s ordination and the attempt to entertain the youth via
the Celebration Movement, which had its roots in Vatican II?
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Why can’t SDA’s see that Ezekiel
9 literal destruction does not occur for nothing? The leaders claim that the
church is not in apostasy--that it has not committed any abominations.
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Why can’t SDA’s ask
themselves, what are the abominations that are committed by the church that we
are to sigh and cry about, that are conditional to our being sealed for
salvation? Ezekiel Chapter 9.
~rwb