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I thought it might be helpful to some others to publish these responses to John concerning the topic of the Godhead. rwb

----- Original Message -----

From: john

To: rsbeauli@telusplanet.net

Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 11:48 AM

Subject: Non-urgent inquiry please...

 

Dear Mr Ron,

Have read some truths from Bach to Enoch ministry, some from Mountain Media Ministry, some from Presents of God Ministry, some from Harvestime books, and some from Omega Ministry.  All seem to based their doctrines on the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy,-- these foundations I believe is solid ground.  Am just quite confused because you all seem to differ in some aspects of doctrine.  Do you agree with the book "Defending the Godhead" by Vance Ferrell?  Could you please distinguish yourself from Harvestime, Presents of God, Back to Enoch, and Mountain Media Ministries ?  

Still trying to digest some of the truths I was able to read from your Omega ministry website.

john 

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Ron Beaulieu
rsbeauli@telusplanet.net wrote:

 

Dear John,

 

I emphatically DO NOT agree with Vance Ferrell's book "Defending the Godhead." All of the ministries you mention leave out the most definitive statement on the Godhead made by the Spirit of Prophecy, which defines the Holy Spirit as the soul of the life of Christ. 

 

"Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin.

In the gift of the Spirit Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could bestow....

The Spirit was given as a regenerating agency, and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....

It is by the Spirit that the heart is made pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given his Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress his own character upon the church." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42.

 

From the above statement and the following one, we can only conclude that the Holy Spirit was the preincarnate life of the Son of God, and that at His Incarnation He divested His Holy Spirit from the personality of His humanity.  That Holy Spirit ONLY existence THEN became the Holy Ghost, the prior existence of Christ--His Divine Nature Holy Spirit which He bequeathed to us as a regenerating agency so that we can overcome sin. 

 

"Cumbered with humanity Christ could not be in every place personally, therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them to go to His Father and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit.” E.G. White, (Manuscript Releases Volume 14 (No’s 1081-1135) MR No.1084.

 

 "The darkness rolled away from the Saviour and from the Cross. Christ bowed His head and died. In His Incarnation He had reached the prescribed limit as a sacrifice, but not as a redeemer." E.G. White Manuscript Releases Volume Twelve, p. 409.

 

In the Incarnation BY AND OF ITSELF, Christ met the prescribed limit as a sacrifice BEFORE He became our redeemer on the cross. The prescribed limit as a sacrifice BEFORE the cross is specified in the Testator's Everlasting Covenant--death of the Testator. In order to meed the prescribed limit as a sacrifice BEFORE the cross, as Ellen White says He did, Christ had to die to something. What He died to FOREVER was His DIIVNE ONLY HOLY SPIRIT EXISTENCE, to become thereafter and forever after combined with humanity.

 

"The Incarnation of Christ was an act of self-sacrifice; His life was one of continual self-denial. The highest glory of the love of God to man was manifested in the sacrifice of His only-begotten Son, who was the express image of His person. This is the great mystery of godliness. It is the privilege and the duty of every professed follower of Christ to have the mind of Christ. Without self-denial and cross bearing we cannot be His disciples." E.G. White, Selected Messages, Book 2, p. 185.

 

The trinity doctrine denies and by passes the Incarnation sacrifice in the Heavenly Sanctuary, by teaching that the Holy Ghost existed from eternity. The Holy  Ghost did not exist from eternity. But the Holy Spirit did exist from eternity in the person of the Son and the Father, as they both share the same ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT. It was at the Incarnation that the Holy Spirit became a third person via the Holy Ghost. You will not find those words in the Old Testament. The first mention of them is in Matthew:1:18:

 

Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 

All of the above is extremely important because without an eternal sacrifice (death to His former Holy Spirit ONLY existence), at the Incarnation in the heavenly Sanctuary, there would have been NO SANCTUARY SERVICE, NO ATONEMENT for the wages of man's sin which is death, eternal death and not merely spending three days and nights in a tomb. That is not our penalty for the wages of sin and Jesus paid MAN'S PENALTY at His Incarnation, BEFORE THE CROSS. He redeemd us on the cross by taking out sins upon Him.

 

The alpha of apostasy did away with the Sanctuary and the Atonement by teaching that God is in everything by His spirit--pantheism. Thus, there was no heavenly Sanctuary associated with that doctrine.

 

The omega of apostasy achieves the same end by teaching that the Holy Spirit always existed as a third person. That is not true because it was at the INCARNATION that the Son divested His Holy Spirit from His humanity, and the Holy Spirit became the Holy Ghost THIRD PERSON at that time. Thus, the trinity doctrine by passes the Sanctuary Service and the Atonement in the heavenly Sanctuary which met the prescribed limit as a sacrifice as far as the Testator (Christ) to the Everlasting Covenant was concerned.

 

Hbr 9:16 For where a testament [is], there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.


Hbr 9:17 For
a testament [is] of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

The Son was the Testator of the Testament of the Everlasting Covenant. He had to die to something eternally because the wages of sin is eternal death. If He lives WITHOUT SATISFYING THAT REQUISITE, there has been no Sanctuary, no Atonement Service in the heavenly Sanctuary--thus the entire Christian economy would be null and void. That is what the Trinity Doctrine achieves. That is what ANY OTHER OPTION except the above scenario achieves.

 

Here is what happened in the alpha of apostasy:

 

Sanctuary Gone Atonement Gone -- "In a representation which passed before me, I saw a certain work being done by medical missionary workers. Our ministering brethren were looking on, watching what was being done, but they did not seem to understand. The foundation of our faith, which was established by so much prayer, such earnest searching of the Scriptures, was being taken down, pillar by pillar. Our faith was to have nothing to rest upon--the sanctuary was gone, the atonement was gone." E.G. White, The Upward Look, 152.

 

The same thing has occurred in the omega of apostasy via the heresy of the trinity doctrine, which is Rome's central doctrine. As the ministering brethren were looking on then, watching what Kellogg was doing, but they did not seem to understand, so they don't understand the serious implications of what they have done today by embracing Rome's trinity doctrine.

 

This is no small heresy. This involves the "highest good, crowning gift" that heaven can bestow. This involves the Sanctuary Service and the Atonement performed at the Incarnation in the Heavenly Sanctuary. This is as pillar and landmark as a doctrine can get. This is as fundamental and BASIC as any doctrine can get. Violation of this pillar doctrine of Adventism relative to the personality of God and Christ (their ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT), is as heretic as anything can get.

 

Godhead as a pillar doctrine -- Personality of God and of Christ Landmarks: "Those who seek to remove the old landmarks are not holding fast they are not remembering how they have received and heard. Those who try to bring in theories that would remove the pillars of our faith concerning the sanctuary or concerning the personality of God or of Christ, are working as blind men. They are seeking to bring in uncertainties and to set the people of God adrift without an anchor." {MR760 9.5}

 

I hope this gives you a basic understanding of this all important sacrifice which provided the cure for sin, while the cross provided the pardon for sin. None of the ministries you cite have the spiritual discernment to see the seriousness of this Bible truth--the most fundamental and serious truth in all Scripture. If you have further question(s) please feel free to ask.

 

All His Blessings,

 

Ron

 

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:48 AM, john wrote:

 

Thank you Mr. Ron for your lightning reply.  Am glad you are knowledgeable enough about the doctrine of the different ministries I have mentioned as to make conclusive opinions and Spirit of Prophecy references. I checked the source R&H May 19, 1904 Vol 5 and MR Vol 14 No 1084 and MR Vol 12 p409.  I agree that the Holy Spirit is the pre-incarnate life of the Son of God and that Jesus left His divinity in heaven at His incarnation.  But how do I reconcile my conclusion with Colossians 2:9 "For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." and Luke 23:46 "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost." ?  How can the fulness of the Godhead be in Jesus bodily if He left His divinity in heaven?  And how is it that He gave up His Spirit at His death?

Those above were from my last night's email draft.  Am not through yet re-reading your email because I need to digest it more.  I just decided to email again to let you know that I appreciate your immediate reply to my inquiry.  Am just struck again this morning with this Bible passage:

"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the
Spirit  of  God  dwell  in  you.  Now  if  any  man  have  not  the
Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. {8:10} And if Christ [be]
in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is]
life because of righteousness. {8:11} But if the Spirit of him
that  raised  up  Jesus  from  the  dead  dwell  in  you,  he  that
raised  up  Christ  from  the  dead  shall  also  quicken  your
mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." Romans 8:9b-11 KJV

Will email again after I get a chance to study more the middle and latter part of your email reply.  Until next email.

john 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: john

To: Ron Beaulieu

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 5:40 AM

Subject: Re: Non-urgent inquiry please...

 

Just forgot to say-- Have a nice day Mr. Ron ! 

Will email again next time.  Meantime have to get back to do other things.

john 

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Beaulieu

To: john

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 8:18 AM

Subject: Re: Non-urgent inquiry please...

 

Dear John,

 

Relative to your questions: "But how do I reconcile my conclusion with Colossians 2:9 "For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." and Luke 23:46 "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost." ?  How can the fullness of the Godhead be in Jesus bodily if He left His divinity in heaven?  And how is it that He gave up His Spirit at His death?"

 

My response: There are aspects to the Godhead that are indeed a mystery. Ellen White said that we will be learning about the Incarnation for eternity. That is a lot of learning! I don't know how the Son was able to divest Himself of the OMNI aspects of the Godhead and sill retain ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD, but there is evidence that He did exactly that. For example:

 

·       Jesus told His disciples He could not be everywhere at once. (Omnipresence not present)

·       Jesus said that only His Father knew the day and hour of His coming. (Omniscience not present)

·       Jesus said of Himself He could do nothing. (Omnipotence not present)

 

Nevertheless, notwistanding these mysteries, I accept Ellen White's definition of the Holy Spirit. I accept the Bible's teaching of John 14, that when the Holy Spirit comes to us, all three persons to the Godhead come to us, THUS THE WORDS "WE WILL COME TO YOU," verse 23. I understand this accrues because they all are of THE ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT.

 

 23Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

 

Hbr 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

 

Which brings us to your second question concerning Jesus commending His spirit to the Father just before His death on the cross. If you will recall, that Spirit (Holy Ghost) descended upon Him at His baptism. He could have retained that Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit) existence by declining His mission to take our sins upon Him. but He did not do so. He offered up that Holy Ghost Divine Spirit and commended it to the Father as a bequeathed gift to us for the purpose of regeneration--a cure for sin. That was the SECOND DEATH to that Spirit from which He could not forever after revive. That sealed the Testator's covenant of death to His former Holy Spirit ONLY state of Being.

 

Which brings us to your final observation, to wit:

 

"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit  of  God  dwell  in  you.  Now  if  any  man  have  not  the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. {8:10} And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness. {8:11} But if the Spirit of him that  raised  up  Jesus  from  the  dead  dwell  in  you,  he  that raised  up  Christ  from  the  dead  shall  also  quicken  your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." Romans 8:9b-11 KJV.

 

By His Incarnation sacrifice, His Divine Nature Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost of that Spirit) was bequeathed to us. We may partake of that Divine Nature: 

 

2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

 

That is the means by which sin is cured if we will partake of His Divine Nature Holy Ghost Spirit. That Spirit is the life that WAS HIS. There are some duplications below but that will serve my purpose of emphasis:

 

"He (Christ) suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which WAS His." Desire of Ages, p. 25 1 Cor. 11:24-265, cf. John 6:53, 54, Titus 3:5, 6.

 

One Spirit Eternal Spirit

 

Hbr 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 

 

Jhn 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

 

“They have one God and one Saviour; and one Spirit—the Spirit of Christ” (9T p. 289)

 

“Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is; there is Liberty.” (2 Cor. 3:17)

 

“For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself.” John 5:26.

 

Any further discussion is most welcome. But I must fully caution you, much of this issues is indeed a mystery and no man understands it all. But it is given to us to be able to grasp a glimmer of the importance of the Incarnation sacrifice, that was in addition to the cross.

 

All His Blessings,

 

Ron

 

 

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Ron Beaulieu rsbeauli@telusplanet.net wrote:

 

Sorry John,  I made some spelling blunders. Should have checked it before sending. I corrected the errors in the post below. Also, I meant to say that I surely realize that Ellen White said Jesus was FULLY GOD AND FULLY HUMAN, but I merely accept that as part of the mystery, considering that He emptied Himself of certain attributes of the Holy Spirit at His Incarnation.

 

All His Blessings,

 

Ron

 

----- Original Message -----

From: john

To: Ron Beaulieu

Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:52 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: Non-urgent inquiry please...

 

No problem Mr Ron about some spelling blunders.  Am the one who needs apology for am quite slow in my email responses not mentioning my slow comprehension of some important things .  But thank you Mr Ron for your usual fast replies even to my latest questions.  In fact I wasn't done yet digesting your first email when I received another one and surprisingly answers to my questions too concerning the first part of your first email.  And yes, thank you and will heed your word of caution that much of the issues is indeed a mystery and that no man understands it all.  At least a glimmer of the importance of the incarnation sacrifice gives me an idea what to ask Jesus more later in heaven.

I read everything in your email and checked the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy quotes.  My EGW Spirit of Prophecy reference numbers are not exactly alike with the number in your reference quotes but at least EGW's words are the same.  For example, when you quoted and wrote "9T p. 289" I found the exact EGW quote, however my reference says "9T 189.3".  By the way, in searching for EGW quotes, I used the software-- Ellen G. White Writings Comprehensive Research Edition 2008.  Can't find any other reliable comprehensive source of EGW writings in digital format.

Other than my question below, every thing else you discussed seems clear to me and I agree with you especially since it is based on the authority of the Bible and even the Spirit of Prophecy.

Mr Ron, pardon me for my dullness but I just can't fully understand why there can be no sanctuary and no atonement in the case of the alpha of apostasy which teaches that "God is in everything by His spirit-- pantheism".  And in the further case of the omega of apostasy which teaches that the "Holy Spirit always existed as a third person".  I thought there is a sanctuary and atonement service in heaven because of what Jesus did at the cross of Calvary. 

Will wait for your reply just whenever it is convenient to your schedule.  I understand it is already evening.  Have a good night rest Mr Ron.

john

 

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Ron Beaulieu rsbeauli@telusplanet.net wrote:

 

Dear John,

 

You queried: "Mr Ron, pardon me for my dullness but I just can't fully understand why there can be no sanctuary and no atonement in the case of the alpha of apostasy which teaches that "God is in everything by His spirit-- pantheism".  And in the further case of the omega of apostasy which teaches that the "Holy Spirit always existed as a third person".  I thought there is a sanctuary and atonement service in heaven because of what Jesus did at the cross of Calvary."

 

First the pantheism issue: Pantheism being the teaching that the presence of God is in everything via God's Holy Spirit, from creation, would by-pass the Incarnation sacrifice that availed the gift of the Holy Spirit which was for the express purpose of bequeathing to man, NOT NATURE, the gift of the Holy Ghost for empowerment to overcome sin and for being regenerated back into the image of God, which man was created in. If Christ's Holy Spirit was in everthing, INCLUDING MAN, from creation of the world, then His Incarnation was not necessary in order to bequeath that highest good, crowing gift to man, thur rendering the Sanctuary Service and the Atonement unnecessary (GONE) as well because the Holy Spirit would already have been in man and all created matter WITHOUT THE INCARNATION AND THE INCARNATION TYPIFIED IN THE SACRIFICAL SERVICE OF ISRAEL (SEE QUOTE BELOW).

 

As for the second question involving the Sanctuary and Atonement service in heaven because of what Jesus did at the cross of Calvary, that is very true. But the Incarnation also typified the sacrificial service of Israel, The Sanctuary Service, for the Incarnation involved an eternal death to something as well. In fact, it met the prescribed limit as a sacrifice which involved death of the Testator. So that had to be part of the Sanctuary Service in the Heavenly Sanctuary.

 

"The incarnation of Christ, typified in the sacrificial service of Israel, and symbolized in all their devotions, is a glorious mystery. In His only begotten Son, God was made manifest to the world. The Son of God laid aside His glory, and clothed Himself with humanity. He became the meek and lowly Jesus. For the sake of sinful men He became poor, that they through His poverty might be made rich." {BEcho, February 20, 1899 par. 1}

 

If in His Incarnation He had reached the prescribed limit as a sacrifice, that fact demands that the sacrifice of the Incarnation was a Heavenly Sanctuary sacrifice, at which time the Holy Spirit attributes were divested from the Son.

 

Here are some more statements regarding the Incarnation that I thought you might be interested in:

 

"The darkness rolled away from the Saviour and from the Cross. Christ bowed His head and died. In His Incarnation He had reached the prescribed limit as a sacrifice, but not as a redeemer." E.G. White Manuscript Releases Volume Twelve, p. 409.

 

"7. Made himself of no reputation. Literally, 'emptied Himself.'  This emptying was voluntary (see on John 10:17, 18).  It was not possible for Christ to retain all the tokens of divinity and still accomplish the Incarnation.  The outworking of this emptying is detailed in the remainder of Phil. 2:7 and in v. 8.  See Vol. 5, p. 918."  SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7, p. 155, col. 1.

 

“5. The Subordination of Christ. Voluntarily assuming the limitations of human nature at the incarnation, the Lord Jesus Christ thereby subordinated Himself to the Father for the duration of His earthly ministry (see ps. 40:8; Matt. 26:39; John 3:16 4:34; 5:19, 30; 12:49; 14:10; 17:4, 8; 2 Cor. 8:9; Phil. 2:7, 8; Heb. 2:9; see on Luke 1:35; 2:49; John 3:16; 4:34; Phil 2:7, 8).

‘Laying aside His royal robe and kingly crown’ (DA 22, 23). “He voluntarily assumed human nature.  It was His own act, and by His own consent.” (EGW ST Jan 20, 1890; cf 5T 702).  “He humbled Himself, and took mortality upon Him.” (EGW RH Sept. 4, 1900).

 

“The Son of God was surrendered to the Father’s will, and dependent upon His power. So utterly was Christ emptied of self that He made no plans for Himself. He accepted God’s plans for Him, and day by day the Father unfolded His plans” (DA 208; cf. 664. ‘While bearing human nature, He was dependent upon the Omnipotent for His life.  In His humanity, He laid hold of the divinity of God’”{EGW, ST, June 17, 1897 par. 8}

 

Incarnation Taxes Highest Powers of Mind

 

"This earth has been honored and blessed with presence of the Son of God. In the Scriptures we red of His INCARNATION, His teaching, His miracles, His death, and His resurrection. The effort to understand these wonderful subjects puts to the tax the highest powers of the mind, and then there is an infinity beyond which can not be exhausted. The oftener the mind is called to this study, the stronger and clearer it will become. In the daily life will be revealed the mysteries of godliness, which may be experienced, but can not be explained. Throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity the redeemed will study these subjects, ever gaining from them a deeper and clearer knowledge of God and of Christ." E.G. White, The Signs of the Times, 04-26-05, Pr. 01.

 

"It requires considerable effort to climb hills, to get upon the rock. And so we find that it will require the exercise of all our abilities, of every spiritual nerve and muscle, to get upon the Living Rock, the Saviour of mankind. It will require all our mental and spiritual power to understand the Word of God, to understand the INCARNATION of Christ, to understand the great plan of redemption. The mind may faint beneath the effort, and yet, there is an infinity beyond. You have only then touched the surface." E.G. White, Manuscript Releases Volume Nine, pr. 3, P. 68.

 

Incarnation --Satan would Mystify: "This is a great mystery, a mystery that will not be fully, completely understood in all its greatness until the translation of the redeemed shall take place. Then the power and greatness and efficacy of the gift of God to man will be understood. But the enemy is determined that this gift shall be so mystified that it will become as nothingness." E.G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7A, p. 444. 

 

"There is no one who can explain the mystery of the incarnation of Christ. Yet we know that He came to this earth and lived as a man among man. The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty, yet Christ and the Father are one. The deity did not sink under the agonizing torture of Calvary, yet it is nonetheless true that 'God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." E.G. White, Lift Him Up, p. 235.

 

"He was the Redeemer before as after His Incarnation." The Desire of Ages, 210.

 

“The Father demonstrates His infinite love for Christ, who paid our ransom with His blood, by receiving and welcoming Christ's friends as His friends. He is satisfied with the atonement made. He is glorified by the incarnation, the life, death, and mediation of His Son.”--Testimonies, vol. 6, p. 364. {7ABC 460.2}

 

1 Tim.3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." "The incarnation of Christ is THE MYSTERY OF ALL MYSTERIES." 6BC 1082.

 

"As the worker studies the life of Christ, and the character of His mission is dwelt upon, each fresh search will reveal something more deeply interesting than has yet been unfolded. The subject is inexhaustible. The study of the incarnation of Christ, His atoning sacrifice and mediatorial work, will employ the mind of the diligent student as long as time shall last." Gospel Workers, p. 251. SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7a, p. 444.

 

"No one can search the Scriptures in the spirit of Christ without being rewarded. When man is willing to be instructed as a little child, when he submits wholly to God, he will find the truth in His word. If men would be obedient, they would understand the plan of God's government. The heavenly world would open its chambers of grace and glory for exploration. Human beings would be altogether different from what they now are, for by exploring the mines of truth men would be ennobled.  The mystery of redemption, THE INCARNATION OF CHRIST, HIS ATONING SACRIFICE, would not be as they are now, vague in our minds. They would be not only better understood, but altogether more highly appreciated."  E.G. White, Christ's Object Lessons, p. 114. 

 

"He (Christ) suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which WAS His." Desire of Ages, p. 25 1 Cor. 11:24-265, cf. John 6:53, 54, Titus 3:5, 6.


The death which was ours is eternal, not three days and nights.

 

All His Blessings,

 

Ron

 

----- Original Message -----

From: john

To: Ron Beaulieu

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:59 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: Non-urgent inquiry please...

 

Wow!  Am almost speechless Mr Ron. I can't say anything better but accept such sublime truths.  Thank you Mr Ron for your discernment and for explaining it clearly.  Thanks you also Mrs White and, most of all-- thank you Lord Jesus for your Holy Spirit and guidance.  May God bless you Mr Ron.

john