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thought it might be helpful to some others to publish these responses to John
concerning the topic of the Godhead. rwb
----- Original Message -----
From: john
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 11:48 AM
Subject: Non-urgent inquiry please...
Dear Mr Ron,
Have read some truths from Bach to Enoch ministry, some from Mountain Media
Ministry, some from Presents of God Ministry, some from Harvestime
books, and some from Omega Ministry. All seem to based their doctrines on
the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy,-- these foundations I believe is solid
ground. Am just quite confused because you all seem to differ in some
aspects of doctrine. Do you agree with the book "Defending the
Godhead" by Vance Ferrell? Could you please distinguish yourself
from Harvestime, Presents of God, Back to Enoch, and
Mountain Media Ministries ?
Still trying to digest some of the truths I was able to read from your Omega
ministry website.
john
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Ron Beaulieu rsbeauli@telusplanet.net wrote:
Dear John,
I emphatically DO NOT agree with Vance Ferrell's
book "Defending the Godhead." All of the ministries you mention leave
out the most definitive statement on the Godhead made by the Spirit of
Prophecy, which defines the Holy Spirit as the soul of the life of Christ.
"Christ declared that after his
ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter,
who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--the soul of his
life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world.
With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes
away sin.
In the gift of the Spirit Jesus gave to man the highest good that heaven could
bestow....
The Spirit was given as a regenerating agency,
and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail....
It is by the Spirit that the heart is made
pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature.
Christ has given his Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated
tendencies to evil, and to impress his own character upon the church."
E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, May 19, 1904, vol. 5, p. 42.
From the above statement and the following
one, we can only conclude that the Holy Spirit was the preincarnate
life of the Son of God, and that at His Incarnation He divested His
Holy Spirit from the personality of His humanity. That Holy Spirit ONLY
existence THEN became the Holy Ghost, the prior existence of Christ--His
Divine Nature Holy Spirit which He bequeathed to us as a regenerating agency so
that we can overcome sin.
"Cumbered with humanity Christ could not be
in every place personally, therefore it was altogether for their advantage that
He should leave them to go to His Father and send the Holy Spirit to be His
successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity
and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy
Spirit.” E.G. White, (Manuscript Releases Volume 14 (No’s 1081-1135) MR No.1084.
"The darkness rolled away from the
Saviour and from the Cross. Christ bowed His head and died. In His Incarnation
He had reached the prescribed limit as a sacrifice, but not as a redeemer." E.G. White Manuscript
Releases Volume Twelve, p. 409.
In the Incarnation BY AND OF ITSELF, Christ met
the prescribed limit as a sacrifice BEFORE He became our redeemer on the cross.
The prescribed limit as a sacrifice BEFORE the cross is specified in the
Testator's Everlasting Covenant--death of the Testator. In order to meed the prescribed limit as a sacrifice BEFORE the cross,
as Ellen White says He did, Christ had to die to something. What He died to
FOREVER was His DIIVNE ONLY HOLY SPIRIT EXISTENCE, to
become thereafter and forever after combined with humanity.
"The Incarnation of Christ was an act of
self-sacrifice; His life was one of continual self-denial. The highest glory of the
love of God to man was manifested in the sacrifice of His only-begotten Son,
who was the express image of His person. This is the great mystery of
godliness. It is the privilege and the duty of every professed follower of
Christ to have the mind of Christ. Without self-denial and cross bearing we
cannot be His disciples." E.G. White, Selected Messages, Book 2, p.
185.
The trinity doctrine denies and by passes the
Incarnation sacrifice in the Heavenly Sanctuary, by teaching that the Holy
Ghost existed from eternity. The Holy Ghost did not exist from eternity.
But the Holy Spirit did exist from eternity in the person of the Son and the
Father, as they both share the same ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT. It was at the
Incarnation that the Holy Spirit became a third person via the Holy Ghost. You
will not find those words in the Old Testament. The first mention of them is in
Matthew:1:18:
Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as
his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was
found with child of the Holy Ghost.
All of the above is extremely important
because without an eternal sacrifice (death to His former Holy Spirit ONLY
existence), at the Incarnation in the heavenly Sanctuary, there would have been
NO SANCTUARY SERVICE, NO ATONEMENT for the wages of man's sin which is death,
eternal death and not merely spending three days and nights in a tomb. That is
not our penalty for the wages of sin and Jesus paid MAN'S PENALTY at His
Incarnation, BEFORE THE CROSS. He redeemd us on the
cross by taking out sins upon Him.
The alpha of apostasy did away with the
Sanctuary and the Atonement by teaching that God is in everything by His
spirit--pantheism. Thus, there was no heavenly Sanctuary associated with that
doctrine.
The omega of apostasy achieves the same end by
teaching that the Holy Spirit always existed as a third person. That is not
true because it was at the INCARNATION that the Son divested His Holy Spirit
from His humanity, and the Holy Spirit became the Holy Ghost THIRD PERSON at
that time. Thus, the trinity doctrine by passes the Sanctuary Service and the
Atonement in the heavenly Sanctuary which met the prescribed limit as a
sacrifice as far as the Testator (Christ) to the Everlasting Covenant was
concerned.
Hbr 9:16 For where a testament [is], there
must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Hbr 9:17 For a testament [is] of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no
strength at all while the testator liveth.
The Son was the Testator of the Testament of the
Everlasting Covenant. He had to die to something eternally because the wages
of sin is eternal death. If He lives WITHOUT SATISFYING THAT REQUISITE,
there has been no Sanctuary, no Atonement Service in the heavenly
Sanctuary--thus the entire Christian economy would be null and void. That is
what the Trinity Doctrine achieves. That is what ANY OTHER OPTION except the
above scenario achieves.
Here is what happened in the alpha of apostasy:
Sanctuary Gone Atonement Gone -- "In a
representation which passed before me, I saw a certain work being done by
medical missionary workers. Our ministering brethren were looking on, watching
what was being done, but they did not seem to understand. The foundation of our
faith, which was established by so much prayer, such earnest searching of the
Scriptures, was being taken down, pillar by pillar. Our faith was to have
nothing to rest upon--the sanctuary was gone, the atonement was gone."
E.G. White, The Upward Look, 152.
The same thing has occurred in the omega of
apostasy via the heresy of the trinity doctrine, which is Rome's central
doctrine. As the ministering brethren were looking on then, watching what
Kellogg was doing, but they did not seem to understand, so they don't
understand the serious implications of what they have done today by embracing
Rome's trinity doctrine.
This is no small heresy. This involves the
"highest good, crowning gift" that heaven can bestow. This involves
the Sanctuary Service and the Atonement performed at the Incarnation in the
Heavenly Sanctuary. This is as pillar and landmark as a doctrine can get. This
is as fundamental and BASIC as any doctrine can get. Violation of this
pillar doctrine of Adventism relative to the personality of God and Christ
(their ONE ETERNAL SPIRIT), is as heretic as anything can get.
Godhead as a pillar doctrine -- Personality of
God and of Christ Landmarks: "Those who seek to remove the old landmarks
are not holding fast they are not remembering how they have received and heard.
Those who try to bring in theories that would remove the pillars of our
faith concerning the sanctuary or concerning the personality of God or of Christ, are
working as blind men. They are seeking to bring in uncertainties and to set the people
of God adrift without an anchor." {MR760 9.5}
I hope this gives you a basic understanding of
this all important sacrifice which provided the cure for sin, while the cross
provided the pardon for sin. None of the ministries you cite have the spiritual
discernment to see the seriousness of this Bible truth--the most fundamental
and serious truth in all Scripture. If you have further question(s) please
feel free to ask.
All His Blessings,
Ron
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:48 AM, john wrote:
Thank
you Mr. Ron for your lightning reply. Am glad you are knowledgeable
enough about the doctrine of the different ministries I have mentioned as to
make conclusive opinions and Spirit of Prophecy references. I checked the
source R&H May 19, 1904 Vol
5 and MR Vol 14 No 1084 and MR Vol
12 p409. I agree that the Holy Spirit is the
pre-incarnate life of the Son of God and that Jesus left His divinity in heaven
at His incarnation. But how do I reconcile my conclusion with Colossians
2:9 "For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the
Godhead bodily." and Luke 23:46 "And when Jesus had cried with a loud
voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said
thus, he gave up the ghost." ? How can the fulness
of the Godhead be in Jesus bodily if He left His divinity in heaven? And
how is it that He gave up His Spirit at His death?
Those above were from my last night's email draft. Am not through yet
re-reading your email because I need to digest it more. I just decided to
email again to let you know that I appreciate your immediate reply to my
inquiry. Am just struck again this morning with this Bible passage:
"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the
Spirit of God dwell in you. Now
if any man have not the
Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. {8:10} And if Christ [be]
in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is]
life because of righteousness. {8:11} But if the Spirit of him
that raised up Jesus from the dead
dwell in you, he that
raised up Christ from the dead shall
also quicken your
mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." Romans 8:9b-11 KJV
Will email again after I get a chance to study more the middle and latter part
of your email reply. Until next email.
john
-----
Original Message -----
From: john
To: Ron
Beaulieu
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: Non-urgent inquiry please...
Just
forgot to say-- Have a nice day Mr. Ron !
Will email again next time. Meantime have to get back to do other things.
john
-----
Original Message -----
From: Ron
Beaulieu
To: john
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Non-urgent inquiry please...
Dear John,
Relative to your questions: "But how do I reconcile my
conclusion with Colossians 2:9 "For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of
the Godhead bodily." and Luke 23:46 "And when Jesus had cried with a
loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having
said thus, he gave up the ghost." ? How can the fullness of the
Godhead be in Jesus bodily if He left His divinity in heaven? And how is
it that He gave up His Spirit at His death?"
My response: There are aspects to the Godhead that are
indeed a mystery. Ellen White said that we will be learning about the Incarnation
for eternity. That is a lot of learning! I don't know how the Son was able to
divest Himself of the OMNI aspects of the Godhead and sill retain ALL THE
FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD, but there is evidence that He did exactly that. For
example:
·
Jesus
told His disciples He could not be everywhere at once. (Omnipresence not
present)
·
Jesus
said that only His Father knew the day and hour of His coming. (Omniscience not
present)
·
Jesus
said of Himself He could do nothing. (Omnipotence not present)
Nevertheless, notwistanding these
mysteries, I accept Ellen White's definition of the Holy Spirit. I accept the
Bible's teaching of John 14, that when the Holy Spirit comes to us, all three
persons to the Godhead come to us, THUS THE WORDS "WE WILL COME TO
YOU," verse 23. I understand this accrues because they all are of THE ONE
ETERNAL SPIRIT.
23Jesus
answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my
Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Hbr 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who
through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience
from dead works to serve the living God?
Which brings us to your second question concerning Jesus
commending His spirit to the Father just before His death on the cross. If you
will recall, that Spirit (Holy Ghost) descended upon Him at His baptism. He
could have retained that Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit) existence by declining His
mission to take our sins upon Him. but He did not do so. He offered up that
Holy Ghost Divine Spirit and commended it to the Father as a bequeathed gift to
us for the purpose of regeneration--a cure for sin. That was the SECOND DEATH
to that Spirit from which He could not forever after revive. That sealed the
Testator's covenant of death to His former Holy Spirit ONLY state of Being.
Which brings us to your final observation, to wit:
"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so
be that the Spirit of God
dwell in you.
Now if any
man have not
the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. {8:10} And if Christ [be] in
you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of
righteousness. {8:11} But if the Spirit of him that raised
up Jesus from
the dead dwell
in you, he
that raised up Christ
from the dead
shall also quicken
your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." Romans 8:9b-11 KJV.
By His Incarnation sacrifice, His Divine Nature Holy Spirit
(Holy Ghost of that Spirit) was bequeathed to us. We may partake of that Divine
Nature:
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto
us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers
of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world
through lust.
That is the means by which sin is cured if we will partake
of His Divine Nature Holy Ghost Spirit. That Spirit is the life that WAS HIS.
There are some duplications below but that will serve my purpose of emphasis:
"He (Christ) suffered the death which was ours, that we
might receive the life which WAS His." Desire of Ages, p. 25 1 Cor.
11:24-265, cf. John 6:53, 54, Titus 3:5, 6.
One Spirit Eternal Spirit
Hbr 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through
the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience
from dead works to serve the living God?
Jhn
4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship
him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
“They have one God and one Saviour; and one Spirit—the
Spirit of Christ” (9T p. 289)
“Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the
Lord is; there is Liberty.” (2 Cor. 3:17)
“For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to
the Son to have life in himself.” John 5:26.
Any further discussion is most welcome. But I must fully
caution you, much of this issues is indeed a mystery and no man understands it
all. But it is given to us to be able to grasp a glimmer of the importance of
the Incarnation sacrifice, that was in addition to the cross.
All His Blessings,
Ron
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Ron Beaulieu rsbeauli@telusplanet.net
wrote:
Sorry John, I made some spelling blunders. Should have
checked it before sending. I corrected the errors in the post below. Also, I
meant to say that I surely realize that Ellen White said Jesus was FULLY GOD
AND FULLY HUMAN, but I merely accept that as part of the mystery, considering
that He emptied Himself of certain attributes of the Holy Spirit at His Incarnation.
All His Blessings,
Ron
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Original Message -----
From: john
To: Ron
Beaulieu
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Non-urgent inquiry
please...
No problem Mr Ron about some spelling blunders. Am the
one who needs apology for am quite slow in my email responses not mentioning my
slow comprehension of some important things . But thank you Mr Ron for
your usual fast replies even to my latest questions. In fact I wasn't
done yet digesting your first email when I received another one and
surprisingly answers to my questions too concerning the first part of your
first email. And yes, thank you and will heed your word of caution that
much of the issues is indeed a mystery and that no man understands it
all. At least a glimmer of the importance of the incarnation sacrifice
gives me an idea what to ask Jesus more later in heaven.
I read everything in your email and checked the Bible and the Spirit of
Prophecy quotes. My EGW Spirit of Prophecy
reference numbers are not exactly alike with the number in your reference
quotes but at least EGW's words are the same.
For example, when you quoted and wrote "9T p.
289" I found the exact EGW quote, however my
reference says "9T 189.3". By the
way, in searching for EGW quotes, I used the
software-- Ellen G. White Writings Comprehensive Research Edition 2008.
Can't find any other reliable comprehensive source of EGW
writings in digital format.
Other than my question below, every thing else you
discussed seems clear to me and I agree with you especially since it is based
on the authority of the Bible and even the Spirit of Prophecy.
Mr Ron, pardon me for my dullness but I just can't fully understand why there
can be no sanctuary and no atonement in the case of the alpha of apostasy which
teaches that "God is in everything by His spirit-- pantheism".
And in the further case of the omega of apostasy which teaches that the
"Holy Spirit always existed as a third person". I thought there
is a sanctuary and atonement service in heaven because of what Jesus did at the
cross of Calvary.
Will wait for your reply just whenever it is convenient to your schedule.
I understand it is already evening. Have a good night rest Mr Ron.
john
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Ron Beaulieu rsbeauli@telusplanet.net
wrote:
Dear John,
You queried: "Mr Ron, pardon me for my dullness but I
just can't fully understand why there can be no sanctuary and no atonement in
the case of the alpha of apostasy which teaches that "God is in everything
by His spirit-- pantheism". And in the further case of the omega of
apostasy which teaches that the "Holy Spirit always existed as a third
person". I thought there is a sanctuary and atonement service in
heaven because of what Jesus did at the cross of Calvary."
First the pantheism issue: Pantheism being the teaching
that the presence of God is in everything via God's Holy Spirit, from
creation, would by-pass the Incarnation sacrifice that availed the gift of the
Holy Spirit which was for the express purpose of bequeathing to man, NOT
NATURE, the gift of the Holy Ghost for empowerment to overcome sin and for
being regenerated back into the image of God, which man was created in. If
Christ's Holy Spirit was in everthing, INCLUDING
MAN, from creation of the world, then His Incarnation was not necessary in
order to bequeath that highest good, crowing gift to man, thur
rendering the Sanctuary Service and the Atonement unnecessary (GONE) as
well because the Holy Spirit would already have been in man and all created
matter WITHOUT THE INCARNATION AND THE INCARNATION TYPIFIED IN THE SACRIFICAL SERVICE OF ISRAEL (SEE QUOTE BELOW).
As for the second question involving the Sanctuary and
Atonement service in heaven because of what Jesus did at the cross of Calvary,
that is very true. But the Incarnation also typified the sacrificial service of
Israel, The Sanctuary Service, for the Incarnation involved an eternal death to
something as well. In fact, it met the prescribed limit as a sacrifice which
involved death of the Testator. So that had to be part of the Sanctuary Service
in the Heavenly Sanctuary.
"The incarnation of Christ, typified in
the sacrificial service of Israel, and symbolized in all their devotions, is a glorious
mystery. In His only begotten Son, God was made manifest to the world. The Son
of God laid aside His glory, and clothed Himself with humanity. He became the
meek and lowly Jesus. For the sake of sinful men He became poor, that they
through His poverty might be made rich." {BEcho,
February 20, 1899 par. 1}
If in His Incarnation He had reached the prescribed limit as
a sacrifice, that fact demands that the sacrifice of the Incarnation was a
Heavenly Sanctuary sacrifice, at which time the Holy Spirit attributes were
divested from the Son.
Here are some more statements regarding the Incarnation that
I thought you might be interested in:
"The darkness rolled away from the Saviour and from the
Cross. Christ bowed His head and died. In His Incarnation He had reached the
prescribed limit as a sacrifice, but not as a redeemer." E.G. White Manuscript
Releases Volume Twelve, p. 409.
"7. Made himself of no reputation. Literally, 'emptied
Himself.' This emptying was voluntary (see on John 10:17, 18). It was not possible
for Christ to retain all the tokens of divinity and still accomplish the
Incarnation.
The outworking of this emptying is detailed in the remainder of Phil. 2:7 and in v. 8. See Vol.
5, p. 918." SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7, p. 155, col. 1.
“5. The Subordination of Christ. Voluntarily assuming the
limitations of human nature at the incarnation, the Lord Jesus Christ thereby
subordinated Himself to the Father for the duration of His earthly ministry (see ps. 40:8; Matt. 26:39;
John 3:16 4:34; 5:19, 30; 12:49; 14:10; 17:4, 8; 2 Cor. 8:9; Phil. 2:7, 8; Heb.
2:9; see on Luke 1:35; 2:49; John 3:16; 4:34; Phil 2:7, 8).
‘Laying aside His royal robe and kingly crown’ (DA 22, 23).
“He voluntarily assumed human nature. It was His own act, and by His own
consent.” (EGW ST Jan 20, 1890; cf
5T 702). “He humbled Himself, and took
mortality upon Him.” (EGW RH Sept. 4, 1900).
“The Son of God was surrendered to the Father’s will, and dependent upon
His power.
So utterly was Christ emptied of self that He made no plans for Himself. He accepted God’s plans for
Him, and day by day the Father unfolded His plans” (DA 208; cf. 664. ‘While bearing
human nature, He was dependent upon the Omnipotent for His life. In His humanity, He
laid hold of the divinity of God’”{EGW, ST, June 17,
1897 par. 8}
Incarnation Taxes Highest Powers of Mind
"This earth has been honored and blessed with presence
of the Son of God. In the Scriptures we red of His
INCARNATION, His teaching, His miracles, His death, and His resurrection. The effort to
understand these wonderful subjects puts to the tax the highest powers of the
mind, and then there is an infinity beyond which can not
be exhausted.
The oftener the mind is called to this study, the stronger and clearer it will
become. In the daily life will be revealed the mysteries of godliness, which
may be experienced, but can not be explained.
Throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity the redeemed will study these
subjects, ever gaining from them a deeper and clearer knowledge of God and of
Christ." E.G. White, The Signs of the Times, 04-26-05, Pr. 01.
"It requires considerable effort to climb hills, to get
upon the rock. And so we find that it will require the exercise of all our
abilities, of every spiritual nerve and muscle, to get upon the Living Rock,
the Saviour of mankind. It will require all our mental and spiritual power to
understand the Word of God, to understand the INCARNATION of Christ, to
understand the great plan of redemption. The mind may faint beneath the effort,
and yet, there is an infinity beyond. You have only then touched the
surface." E.G. White, Manuscript Releases Volume Nine, pr. 3, P.
68.
Incarnation --Satan would Mystify: "This is a great
mystery, a mystery that will not be fully, completely understood in all its
greatness until the translation of the redeemed shall take place. Then the
power and greatness and efficacy of the gift of God to man will be understood. But the enemy is
determined that this gift shall be so mystified that it will become as
nothingness."
E.G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7A, p.
444.
"There is no one who can explain the mystery of the
incarnation of Christ. Yet we know that He came to this earth and lived as a
man among man. The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty, yet Christ and the Father
are one. The deity did not sink under the agonizing torture of Calvary, yet it
is nonetheless true that 'God so loved the world, that he gave his only
begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
everlasting life." E.G. White, Lift Him Up, p. 235.
"He was the Redeemer before as after His
Incarnation." The Desire of Ages, 210.
“The Father demonstrates His infinite love for Christ, who
paid our ransom with His blood, by receiving and welcoming Christ's friends as
His friends. He is satisfied with the atonement made. He is glorified by the
incarnation, the life, death, and mediation of His Son.”--Testimonies,
vol. 6, p. 364. {7ABC 460.2}
1 Tim.3:16 "And without
controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh,
justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed
on in the world, received up into glory." "The incarnation of Christ
is THE MYSTERY OF ALL MYSTERIES." 6BC 1082.
"As the worker studies the life of Christ, and the
character of His mission is dwelt upon, each fresh search will reveal something more
deeply interesting than has yet been unfolded. The subject is inexhaustible. The study of the incarnation
of Christ, His atoning sacrifice and mediatorial work, will employ the mind of
the diligent student as long as time shall last." Gospel Workers,
p. 251. SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7a, p. 444.
"No one can search the Scriptures in the spirit of
Christ without being rewarded. When man is willing to be instructed as a little
child, when he submits wholly to God, he will find the truth in His word. If
men would be obedient, they would understand the plan of God's government. The
heavenly world would open its chambers of grace and glory for exploration.
Human beings would be altogether different from what they now are, for by
exploring the mines of truth men would be ennobled. The mystery of
redemption, THE INCARNATION OF CHRIST, HIS ATONING SACRIFICE, would not be as
they are now, vague in our minds. They would be not only better understood, but
altogether more highly appreciated." E.G. White, Christ's Object Lessons, p. 114.
"He (Christ) suffered the death which was ours, that we
might receive the life which WAS His." Desire of Ages, p. 25 1 Cor.
11:24-265, cf. John 6:53, 54, Titus 3:5, 6.
The death which was ours is eternal, not three days and nights.
All His Blessings,
Ron
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Original Message -----
From: john
To: Ron
Beaulieu
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Non-urgent inquiry
please...
Wow!
Am almost speechless Mr Ron. I can't say anything better but accept such
sublime truths. Thank you Mr Ron for your discernment and for explaining
it clearly. Thanks you also Mrs White and, most of all-- thank you Lord
Jesus for your Holy Spirit and guidance. May God bless you Mr Ron.
john