This is a harbinger of things to come, with regard to private ownership of precious metals. I took out my e-Liberties in specie a long time ago, fearing for this day.
Watch your freedoms disappear, step by determined step. Do whatever you can NOW, to make the dark days ahead more bearable.
KS
Subject: FBI and
Secret Service Seize Over 2 Tons of Ron Paul Liberty Dollars
Revolution is in the air.
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From: Liberty
Dollar
Sent: Thursday, November 15,
2007 6:20 AM
Subject: FBI Raids
Dear
I sincerely regret to
inform you that about 8:00 this morning a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents
raided the
We have no money. We have no products. We have no records to even know what was
ordered or what you are owed. We have nothing but the will to push forward and
overcome this massive assault on our liberty and our right to have real money
as defined by the
But to make matters worse, all the gold and silver that backs up the paper
certificates and digital currency held in the vault at Sunshine Mint has also
been confiscated. Even the dies for mint the Gold and Silver Libertys have been taken.
This in spite of the
fact that Edmond C. Moy, the Director of the Mint, acknowledged in a letter to
a US Senator that the paper certificates did not violate Section 486 and were
not illegal. But the FBI and Services took all the paper currency too.
The possibility of such action was the reason the
I regret that if you are due an order. It may be
some time until it will be filled... if ever... it now all depends on our
actions.
Everyone who has an unfulfilled order or has digital
or paper currency should band together for a class action suit and demand
redemption. We cannot allow the government to steal our money! Please don’t let this happen!!! Many
of you read the articles quoting the government and Federal Reserve officials
that the Liberty Dollar was legal. You did nothing wrong. You are legally
entitled to your property. Let us use this terrible act to band together and further our goal – to
return
Please click HERE to sign up for the class
action lawsuit and get your property back!
If the above link does
not work you can access the page by copying the following into your web
browser. http://www.libertydollar.org/classaction/index.php
Thanks again for your
support at this darkest time as the damn government and their dollar sinks to a
new low. Bernard von NotHaus, Monetary Architect
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Release Date: 11/16/2007 10:58 PM
From: Liberty Dollar [mailto:truth@libertydollar.org]
Sent: November 16, 2007 1:17 PM
To: straub@direct.ca
Subject: Day II – FBI Raid on the Liberty Dollar
Friday, November 16, 2007: Make no mistake, the FBI and Secret Service raid
on he Liberty Dollar at 8:00 AM on Wednesday, was a
direct assault against the
I personally spoke to FBI agent Andrew Romagnuolo
shortly after he and his gang invaded the peaceful home of the Liberty Dollar.
He told me that the raid was related to the US Mint's warning and the beginning
of a criminal investigation. This is the first battle of a long war that I
intend to win!
Please note the Search Warrant, Seizure Warrant and Agent
info is now posted. Click HERE for that info.
If that link does not work the URL is:
http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/legal/raid.htm.
Also posted is the correspondence between US Senator Bill Nelson of
No need, unless the government knew their 486 case didn't
have a snowball's chance in hell of winning and needed to expand their case
into the never-never land of mail fraud, wire fraud and money laundering as
mentioned in the Seizure Warrant. I anticipate being arrested on any one or all
of these charges.
But I see my arrest and trial as a golden opportunity to win and return our
great country to a value based currency. I sincerely believe that the right
creative marketer could orchestrate an effective counter attack and win big. I
believe the Liberty Dollar will win and become one of the great institutions in
Wi! nning wi
ll require good, dedicated legal support and your
support. First, if you are angry and resent the government's assault on your right to own and use gold as you please then call the agents
and express your displeasure of their actions in a polite way. Don't kill the messenger, just tell them they are wrong. Add your voice to
this movement.
Second: If you are owed an order and want to get your money back or have
paper certificates or digital Liberty Dollars, I urge you to demand redemption
or the return of your money by joining the Class Action Lawsuit. Your
participation is absolutely critical. If you don't join the
Third: A Legal Defense Fund will be established very soon.
Its purpose is to win the cr! iminal case and get your money back. It will take
money to make it successful. So your contribution is also critical. Please
don't let the government steal your money.
So if you have an existing order, want to redeem your paper Certificates or
digital Liberty Dollars, please join the fight to defend our right to own and
use gold as you so chose and sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit. This is the
only way you will get your stolen property back.
If you have no standing and want to
finally get involved, no problem. There is still $20 million Liberty
Dollars in circulation. Simply get some paper Liberty Dollars and sign up for
the Class Action Lawsuit. There is still time for all the thick-headed Lewrockwellites, Markskousenites,
Dougcaseyites and Agoraites
to pull your head out and get 'right' on this important issue.
I regret to inform you that the Liberty Dollar office is now closed. The
government boys took everything except for t! he desks
and chairs. We have no stock, no records, no money. I!
can' ;t even change the phone message because they
took the phone manuals. Nor can I answer the thousands of email and calls from
a national organization that now numbers into the hundreds of thousands. I am
the last man standing. I need your help.
Thank you for your many offers of help. Now is the time for
us to help our selves and our great country as it faces the greatest monetary
challenge since the Revolutionary War. Buying gold and silver is good for you,
but it will not solve our country's problems.
Government requires participation. The problems we have today are because
our parents did not participate. Please keep using the Liberty Dollar. Keep the
ideals and benefits of real money alive. Gold and silver is going to be very
rewarding as the US dollar disintegrates. Please join the Class Action Lawsuit
and give something to the Legal Defense Fund when it is established.
But you don't have to wait. Donations can be sent to the old
address as the ma! il is now
being forwarded. Of course we will still accept Liberty Dollars, but
unfortunately due to the current situation, the attorneys require those dreaded
depreciating US dollars.
Please make your check or money order out to me as there is no other bank
account and mail it to: Liberty Dollar,
Now is the time to band together and support our fight for
value based currency as never before. Now is the time to throw off the yoke of
a manipulated monetary/tax system and generate a peaceful and prosperous
society.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your offer of
help, prayers and support.
The Liberty Dollar and our great country sincerely needs
your support.
God bless you and our great country!
Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect
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FBI RAIDS
By
Jon Christian Ryter
November
17, 2007
NewsWithViews.com
A dozen FBI agents staged a raid on the
Liberty Dollar's
Liberty Dollar was founded as the National
Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and the Internal Revenue
Code [NORFED]. Von Nothaus caught the eye of the
federal government which launched an investigation of the Liberty Dollar in
1999. At the time, Liberty Dollars were largely paper 
silver certificates with only a limited amount of
coins in circulation. In 1999 the Secret Service, the investigative arm of the
US Treasury investigated the Liberty Dollar certificates and determined that
while the company might be a thorn in the side of the government, the
certificates they peddled as barter currency could not be construed as
"counterfeit money" or a scam since NORFED had sufficient silver on
deposit to redeem the certificates they issued. A statement to that affect was
issued by Claudia Dickens, a spokeswoman for the US Bureau of Engraving and
Printing at the time. She said, "There's nothing illegal about this. As
long as it doesn't say legal tender, there's nothing wrong with it." The
term "legal tender" means that the monetary unit must be accepted by
all people as money to repay all forms of debt in the
That changed when von Nothaus
began the mass coining of his Libertys rather than
printing them—and when he began to refer to them on his website as "real
money" or as "the second most-popular currency."
After coming under scrutiny again from the
US Treasury in September, 2006, which presented NORFED with a cease and desist order, von Nothaus
dissolved NORFED as of January 1, 2007, announcing it would distribute Liberty
Dollars without a political agenda. In March, 2007, von Nothaus
filed a lawsuit against Henry M. Paulson, Secretary of the Treasury, then
In its initial warning to NORFED, the
government argued that Liberty Dollar was marketing privately-produced gold and
silver "Liberty Dollar" medallions as a form of money—a privilege
exclusively and constitutionally reserved for the federal government. Article
I, Section 8, subsection 5 provides that Congress alone possesses the exclusive
franchise to coin money and regulate its value. By law (31 USC § 5112[a]),
Congress directs the US Mint to mint coins—and to establish the values of those
coins. Congress places the responsibility to control the minting and
distribution of coinage to the Secretary of the Treasury (31 USC § 51131).
Accordingly, only the US Mint has the constitutional authority to issue
"legal tender" (i.e., real money). Under 18 USC § 486, it is a
federal crime to utter or pass, or attempt to utter or pass, any coins of gold
or silver intended for use as "current money." Liberty Dollar was on
safe ground with barter certificates. However, when they decided to mint coins
with an intrinsic value far greater than the fiat coinage created by the US
Mint, NORFED started building a house of cards that was doomed to fall.
Web advertisements, the US Mint argued,
referred to the 
crossed that invisible line when it discounted the
paper Liberties and told "Liberty Associates" they could earn money
by spending the Liberty Dollar into circulation. Uncle Sam's position is that
only a "legal tender" monetary system can be "spent." The
statement on the website advising associates that they can spend the medallions
into circulation, the government argued, confirms that NORFED construed their
"issue" to be current money. NORFED views its product clinically as a
barter medium of exchange and not as "current money" or
"legal" tender based on the ancient adage of trading things on par
value—a side of beef for a few bushels of corn and wheat—or an ounce of silver
for a bag of groceries or half tank of gas.
The US Mint told Sen. Bill Nelson [D-FL]
in a letter referencing a constituent of Nelson's, Albert Wagner, who
challenged the US 
Mint classification of the Liberty Dollar, advising
Nelson that NORFED's "...website and promotional
materials refer to the medallions as 'real money' and 'currency,' and claim
that the 'Liberty Dollar' medallions are 'legal' and 'constitutional.' the
medallions," the letter said, "bear inscriptions and designs similar
to those found on United States coinage, which may lead unwary merchants or
consumers to accept the medallions as legal tender by mistake."
Sadly for NORFED, even after the US
Treasury filed their initial cease and desist warning against them, the company
continued to refer to the Liberty Dollar—both paper and coin—as a private,
non-government form of currency even though it has had a disclaimer on its
website since 2004 stating that gold and silver Liberty coins are neither
"legal tender" nor "current money." Nor, the websie claimed, did the coins resemble or appear
"...to be coinage minted, issued, authorized, or approved by any
government agency." Further, the coins carry the website address and phone
number to identify them as advertising specialty items and not legal tender.
Since 1998, NORFED has more than $20 million in Liberty Dollar coins and
certificates in circulation. Approximately 2,500 merchants nationwide accept
Liberty Dollars for goods and services.
The US Mint told the Washington Post in
October, 2006 it acted only after federal prosecutors around the country began
forwarding inquiries about the coins, and realized the medallions had become a
problem.
According to a US Mint spokesperson,
NORFED encourages users to "do the drop." Doing the drop means the
Liberty Associate should drop one of the coins into the hand of the merchant so
he can feel the weight of it, which is either solid silver or solid gold.
Clearly, the minting of solid silver or solid gold—or solid
platinum—commemorative coins are legal. And clearly, anyone with a decent pair
of eyes can see that the coins are not the currency of the realm—regardless
what the NORFED website claimed prior to that entity's dissolution on January
1, 2007. The production, sale and possession of Liberty Dollars as a barter
coin is not illegal. As the US Mint noted to both the
Washington Post and Sen. Nelson, there is a comparative similarity in the fact
that NORFED used the phrase "Liberty," the Liberty image and the
phrase, "In God We Trust" (which the US government is now attempting
to remove from our currency because the phrase is offensive to Muslims) to make
its medallions resemble the coins of the realm.
In the search warrant presented to the
employees at
In addition to the inventory of coins and
silver certificates, the agents seized all precious metal shipping and
receiving invoices, as well as the Sunshine Mint records. Sunshine Mint is NORFED's repository in
This reporter
asked von Nothaus earlier if there was any chance
that the gold and silver used to support the Liberty Dollar certificates—which
have been ruled to be lawful—will be returned. Von Nothaus
said he had posted a link on his website,
http://www.libertydollar.org/classification/index.php, for people holding
Liberty Dollar certificates to join a class action lawsuit to demand redemption
for their certificates. Von Nothaus pointed out that
if the supporters of the Liberty Dollar don't join the class action lawsuit,
they will not get their money back. The Federal government will simply keep it
as they do with the ill-gotten gains of drug dealers and other criminals, or
white collar criminals charged with RICO violations. But, it appears to day,
that even if von Nothaus escapes prison, the Liberty
Dollars still in the possession of its adherents will be nothing more than momentos of a failed movement to restore the
© 2007 Jon C.
Ryter - All Rights Reserved
[Read "Whatever Happened to
America?"]
Jon Christian Ryter
is the pseudonym of a former newspaper reporter with the Parkersburg, WV
Sentinel. He authored a syndicated newspaper column, Answers From
The Bible, from the mid-1970s until 1985. Answers From
The Bible was read weekly in many suburban markets in the
Today, Jon is an advertising executive
with the
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This is sure
interesting. What is going to come of Ron Paul? It will be a
colorful 2008, I am sure. KS
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RON PAUL PULL A REVERSE TROJAN ON THE NEW WORLD ORDER? FASCINATING ANALYSIS OF
THE FED SEIZURE OF
Posted By: Rayelan
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Date: Sunday, 18 November 2007, 3:32 a.m.
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The following is an analysis of the FED
seizure of the What's a Reverse Trojan??? It's allowing the
Greeks to bring their Trojan horse inside the walls, just in time for the
waiting Trojan soldiers to slaughter them. This analysis arrived from one of our more
informed readers. It seems amazing to me that
Ron Paul would allow his name to be associated with the Liberty Dollar in the
first place. It is overtly advertized as a symbol of freedom from the parasitic globalist federal reserve families. But it also is a
certain lightning rod for eventual attack and isolation by the globalist nwo. Given its small
size and limited distribution, it posed little risk to the Goliath Fed
Reserve IOU moneymakers. Ron Paul and his
strategists must have known that he would invite eventual attack by the feds
if he joined in partnership with this metal-backed coinage. That has now happened. In hindsight, was he merely
waving a red flag, ensuring that the overconfident nwo/fedreserve
bull would blindly charge, especially after $4M streamed into his coffers in
a matter of hours? Was the $4M itself part of a much bigger op to goad the
complacent fed reserve and its puppetmasters out
into the open? Did the nwo
suspect Paul had tapped a source of tremendous
available resources? In Fed reserve banking, $10M in gold generates $300M in
fed reserve fiat/IOU dollars. Perhaps another banking
cartel (the Austrians?) guaranteed Liberty/Paul a similar high volume loan
guaranteed by the metals held in the It all sounds like
something Gunther and crew might plan. A Trojan
horse inside of a Trojan horse. What if that is exactly what
Ron Paul was counting on? In addition, with the Feds
making a federal case against Liberty and its odd-ball but legal metal-backed
collectable/barter coinage, Ron Paul now has an official US Federal/MSM
platform for educating America and the World on the inherent fiat/IOU/worthless
nature of the Federal Reserve Dollar. A truly free and informed
court would have to agree, and allow for this second form of coinage to
remain available. While not legal tender itself, it opened the door to
Americans hankering for other forms of foreign legal tender that is backed by
some form of hard currency. Paul could lay out what most
at RMN already know that the fiat$ has a contrived value that is backed by
the sweat and income of hardworking American citizens... not backed by the globalist corporations, bolshevik
billionaires, and their banks who hide their assets off shore, and command
the American populace with its wholly owned and manipulated government
stooges and MSM entertrainment apparatus. If the Feds did not attack
liberty and confiscate millions in gold/silver, then Paul would look like a
kook if he tried to make a big deal out of our need to have metal-backed
collectable coins sold on local tv, or if he even
tried to point out the short comings of the fed reserve system. Now, it is the Fed making
a very big deal out of this little company. Now it appeasr
the Fed has swallowed the bait, and Paul has the opportunity to yank back
very hard on the hook for all to see. What might
at first look like a hole in Ron Paul's boat might actually be the
landing ramps for the long-planned all-out very public offensive to educate
Americans and elected representatives of the true nature of the financial
shenanigans keeping As Raye
has already pointed out, Ron Paul's best chance to make lemonade from this
sour news is to go on the offensive and very publicly attack the very basis
the Feds rely on for confiscating the metal reserves of the liberty dollar. If this was the plan all
along, then it seems there are some very powerful actors, using Ron Paul
as point man to assist Raye has written much about how the
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