This is a harbinger of things to come, with regard to private ownership of precious metals.  I took out my e-Liberties in specie a long time ago, fearing for this day.


Watch your freedoms disappear, step by determined step.  Do whatever you can NOW, to make the dark days ahead more bearable.




Subject: FBI and Secret Service Seize Over 2 Tons of Ron Paul Liberty Dollars

Revolution is in the air.


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From: Liberty Dollar

Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:20 AM

Subject: FBI Raids Liberty Dollar – Confiscates All Ron Paul Dollars

Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters:

I sincerely regret to inform you that about 8:00 this morning a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar office in Evansville. For approximately six hours they took all the gold, all the silver, all the platinum and almost two tons of Ron Paul Dollars that where just delivered last Friday. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze our bank accounts.

We have no money. We have no products. We have no records to even know what was ordered or what you are owed. We have nothing but the will to push forward and overcome this massive assault on our liberty and our right to have real money as defined by the US Constitution. We should not to be defrauded by the fake government money.

But to make matters worse, all the gold and silver that backs up the paper certificates and digital currency held in the vault at Sunshine Mint has also been confiscated. Even the dies for mint the Gold and Silver Libertys have been taken.


This in spite of the fact that Edmond C. Moy, the Director of the Mint, acknowledged in a letter to a US Senator that the paper certificates did not violate Section 486 and were not illegal. But the FBI and Services took all the paper currency too.

The possibility of such action was the reason the Liberty Dollar was designed so that the vast majority of the money was in specie form and in the people’s hands. Of the $20 million Liberty Dollars, only about a million is in paper or digital form.

I regret that if you are due an order. It may be some time until it will be filled... if ever... it now all depends on our actions.

Everyone who has an unfulfilled order or has digital or paper currency should band together for a class action suit and demand redemption. We cannot allow the government to steal our money! Please don’t let this happen!!! Many of you read the articles quoting the government and Federal Reserve officials that the Liberty Dollar was legal. You did nothing wrong. You are legally entitled to your property. Let us use this terrible act to band together and further our goal – to return America to a value based currency.Please forward this important Alert... so everyone who possess or use the Liberty Dollar is aware of the situation.

Please click HERE to sign up for the class action lawsuit and get your property back!

If the above link does not work you can access the page by copying the following into your web browser.

Thanks again for your support at this darkest time as the damn government and their dollar sinks to a new low. Bernard von NotHaus, Monetary Architect


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They also seized all the platinum and almost two tons of Ron Paul Dollars that where just delivered last Friday. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze our bank accounts.


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From: Liberty Dollar []
Sent: November 16, 2007 1:17 PM
Subject: Day II – FBI Raid on the Liberty Dollar

Friday, November 16, 2007: Make no mistake, the FBI and Secret Service raid on he Liberty Dollar at 8:00 AM on Wednesday, was a direct assault against the US onstitution and your right to own and use gold and silver in any way you chose.

I personally spoke to FBI agent Andrew Romagnuolo shortly after he and his gang invaded the peaceful home of the Liberty Dollar. He told me that the raid was related to the US Mint's warning and the beginning of a criminal investigation. This is the first battle of a long war that I intend to win!

Please note the Search Warrant, Seizure Warrant and Agent info is now posted. Click HERE for that info. If that link does not work the URL is:

Also posted is the correspondence between US Senator Bill Nelson of Florida and Edmond C Moy, Director of the US Mint. Of particular interest is Moy's statement that the! paper Certificates are not covered by the Title 18, Section 486 and hence legal. So there was no need to raid Sunshine Mint and confiscate all the gold and silver that backs the paper and digital currencies.

No need, unless the government knew their 486 case didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning and needed to expand their case into the never-never land of mail fraud, wire fraud and money laundering as mentioned in the Seizure Warrant. I anticipate being arrested on any one or all of these charges.

But I see my arrest and trial as a golden opportunity to win and return our great country to a value based currency. I sincerely believe that the right creative marketer could orchestrate an effective counter attack and win big. I believe the Liberty Dollar will win and become one of the great institutions in America. I have devoted the past ten year to the Liberty Dollar and am willing to risk a few years in federal prison to vindicate it. Winni! ng is certainly possible, even probable with your help.

Wi! nning wi ll require good, dedicated legal support and your support. First, if you are angry and resent the government's assault on your right to own and use gold as you please then call the agents and express your displeasure of their actions in a polite way. Don't kill the messenger, just tell them they are wrong. Add your voice to this movement.

Second: If you are owed an order and want to get your money back or have paper certificates or digital Liberty Dollars, I urge you to demand redemption or the return of your money by joining the Class Action Lawsuit. Your participation is absolutely critical. If you don't join the CAL you will not get your money back. Please click HERE to sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit. If that link does not work, the URL is:

Third: A Legal Defense Fund will be established very soon. Its purpose is to win the cr! iminal case and get your money back. It will take money to make it successful. So your contribution is also critical. Please don't let the government steal your money.

So if you have an existing order, want to redeem your paper Certificates or digital Liberty Dollars, please join the fight to defend our right to own and use gold as you so chose and sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit. This is the
only way you will get your stolen property back.

If you have no standing and want to finally get involved, no problem. There is still $20 million Liberty Dollars in circulation. Simply get some paper Liberty Dollars and sign up for the Class Action Lawsuit. There is still time for all the thick-headed Lewrockwellites, Markskousenites, Dougcaseyites and Agoraites to pull your head out and get 'right' on this important issue.

I regret to inform you that the Liberty Dollar office is now closed. The government boys took everything except for t! he desks and chairs. We have no stock, no records, no money. I! can' ;t even change the phone message because they took the phone manuals. Nor can I answer the thousands of email and calls from a national organization that now numbers into the hundreds of thousands. I am the last man standing. I need your help.

Thank you for your many offers of help. Now is the time for us to help our selves and our great country as it faces the greatest monetary challenge since the Revolutionary War. Buying gold and silver is good for you, but it will not solve our country's problems.

Government requires participation. The problems we have today are because our parents did not participate. Please keep using the Liberty Dollar. Keep the ideals and benefits of real money alive. Gold and silver is going to be very rewarding as the US dollar disintegrates. Please join the Class Action Lawsuit and give something to the Legal Defense Fund when it is established.

But you don't have to wait. Donations can be sent to the old address as the ma! il is now being forwarded. Of course we will still accept Liberty Dollars, but unfortunately due to the current situation, the attorneys require those dreaded depreciating US dollars.

Please make your check or money order out to me as there is no other bank account and mail it to: Liberty Dollar, 225 N. Stockwell Road. Evansville. Indiana. 47715.

Now is the time to band together and support our fight for value based currency as never before. Now is the time to throw off the yoke of a manipulated monetary/tax system and generate a peaceful and prosperous society.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your offer of help, prayers and support.

The Liberty Dollar and our great country sincerely needs your support.

God bless you and our great country!

Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect

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By Jon Christian Ryter

November 17, 2007

A dozen FBI agents staged a raid on the Liberty Dollar's Evansville, Indiana office at 8 a.m. on Wednesday. Nov. 14 and confiscated all of its property and equipment—including about two tons of commemorative Ron Paul coins. Liberty Dollar, founded by money architect Bernard von NotHaus in 1998, was created as an alternate "private, voluntary barter currency" to the US dollar. Liberty Dollar was headquartered in a strip mall at 225 N. Stockwell Road in Evansville. The future for Liberty Dollar—and its founder—who came under investigation by the US Treasury last fall, appears bleak.

Liberty Dollar was founded as the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and the Internal Revenue Code [NORFED]. Von Nothaus caught the eye of the federal government which launched an investigation of the Liberty Dollar in 1999. At the time, Liberty Dollars were largely paper silver certificates with only a limited amount of coins in circulation. In 1999 the Secret Service, the investigative arm of the US Treasury investigated the Liberty Dollar certificates and determined that while the company might be a thorn in the side of the government, the certificates they peddled as barter currency could not be construed as "counterfeit money" or a scam since NORFED had sufficient silver on deposit to redeem the certificates they issued. A statement to that affect was issued by Claudia Dickens, a spokeswoman for the US Bureau of Engraving and Printing at the time. She said, "There's nothing illegal about this. As long as it doesn't say legal tender, there's nothing wrong with it." The term "legal tender" means that the monetary unit must be accepted by all people as money to repay all forms of debt in the United States. The certificates did not look like money, did not represent itself as money and, thus, could not be construed by the government as a counterfeit form of money.

That changed when von Nothaus began the mass coining of his Libertys rather than printing them—and when he began to refer to them on his website as "real money" or as "the second most-popular currency."

After coming under scrutiny again from the US Treasury in September, 2006, which presented NORFED with a cease and desist order, von Nothaus dissolved NORFED as of January 1, 2007, announcing it would distribute Liberty Dollars without a political agenda. In March, 2007, von Nothaus filed a lawsuit against Henry M. Paulson, Secretary of the Treasury, then US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, and Edmond C. Moy, Director of the US Mint asking the court for a declamatory judgment againsat the federal government.

In its initial warning to NORFED, the government argued that Liberty Dollar was marketing privately-produced gold and silver "Liberty Dollar" medallions as a form of money—a privilege exclusively and constitutionally reserved for the federal government. Article I, Section 8, subsection 5 provides that Congress alone possesses the exclusive franchise to coin money and regulate its value. By law (31 USC § 5112[a]), Congress directs the US Mint to mint coins—and to establish the values of those coins. Congress places the responsibility to control the minting and distribution of coinage to the Secretary of the Treasury (31 USC § 51131). Accordingly, only the US Mint has the constitutional authority to issue "legal tender" (i.e., real money). Under 18 USC § 486, it is a federal crime to utter or pass, or attempt to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver intended for use as "current money." Liberty Dollar was on safe ground with barter certificates. However, when they decided to mint coins with an intrinsic value far greater than the fiat coinage created by the US Mint, NORFED started building a house of cards that was doomed to fall.

Web advertisements, the US Mint argued, referred to the Liberty medallions as "real money," and as "currency." NORFED crossed that invisible line when it discounted the paper Liberties and told "Liberty Associates" they could earn money by spending the Liberty Dollar into circulation. Uncle Sam's position is that only a "legal tender" monetary system can be "spent." The statement on the website advising associates that they can spend the medallions into circulation, the government argued, confirms that NORFED construed their "issue" to be current money. NORFED views its product clinically as a barter medium of exchange and not as "current money" or "legal" tender based on the ancient adage of trading things on par value—a side of beef for a few bushels of corn and wheat—or an ounce of silver for a bag of groceries or half tank of gas.

The US Mint told Sen. Bill Nelson [D-FL] in a letter referencing a constituent of Nelson's, Albert Wagner, who challenged the US Mint classification of the Liberty Dollar, advising Nelson that NORFED's " and promotional materials refer to the medallions as 'real money' and 'currency,' and claim that the 'Liberty Dollar' medallions are 'legal' and 'constitutional.' the medallions," the letter said, "bear inscriptions and designs similar to those found on United States coinage, which may lead unwary merchants or consumers to accept the medallions as legal tender by mistake."

Sadly for NORFED, even after the US Treasury filed their initial cease and desist warning against them, the company continued to refer to the Liberty Dollar—both paper and coin—as a private, non-government form of currency even though it has had a disclaimer on its website since 2004 stating that gold and silver Liberty coins are neither "legal tender" nor "current money." Nor, the websie claimed, did the coins resemble or appear " be coinage minted, issued, authorized, or approved by any government agency." Further, the coins carry the website address and phone number to identify them as advertising specialty items and not legal tender. Since 1998, NORFED has more than $20 million in Liberty Dollar coins and certificates in circulation. Approximately 2,500 merchants nationwide accept Liberty Dollars for goods and services. 

The US Mint told the Washington Post in October, 2006 it acted only after federal prosecutors around the country began forwarding inquiries about the coins, and realized the medallions had become a problem. US Mint spokeswoman Becky Bailey told the Washington Post at that time that "...we don't take these consumer alerts lightly. Merchants and banks are confronted by confused customers demanding they accept Liberty Dollars. They are not legal coin." One of those referrals came from the FBI in New York after an incident involving the attempted use of a Liberty Dollar when Amanda Buczek and her boyfriend Joel Lattuca at the refreshment stand at a New York Islander's hockey game that resulted in the arrest of her father, Dan Buczek, 55 and her brother Shane after Amanda asked the attendant if they accepted Libertys. He said no, and they paid him with a Federal Reserve note. An off-duty Buffalo detective arrested Dan Buczek and his son Shane—not the daughter or boyfriend—and contacted the FBI in an attempt to pursue counterfeiting charges against the Buczeks. While the felony charges that were initially filed against the Buczeks were later reduced to misdemeanors, a spokesman for the US Mint said that attempting to use the Liberty Dollar to pay for products or services could land the consumer in prison for up to five years.

According to a US Mint spokesperson, NORFED encourages users to "do the drop." Doing the drop means the Liberty Associate should drop one of the coins into the hand of the merchant so he can feel the weight of it, which is either solid silver or solid gold. Clearly, the minting of solid silver or solid gold—or solid platinum—commemorative coins are legal. And clearly, anyone with a decent pair of eyes can see that the coins are not the currency of the realm—regardless what the NORFED website claimed prior to that entity's dissolution on January 1, 2007. The production, sale and possession of Liberty Dollars as a barter coin is not illegal. As the US Mint noted to both the Washington Post and Sen. Nelson, there is a comparative similarity in the fact that NORFED used the phrase "Liberty," the Liberty image and the phrase, "In God We Trust" (which the US government is now attempting to remove from our currency because the phrase is offensive to Muslims) to make its medallions resemble the coins of the realm.

In the search warrant presented to the employees at 225 N. Stockwell Road at 8 a.m. on Nov. 14, FBI special agent Andrew Romagnuolo and Secret Service agent David Stefanich with 10 other federal agents conducted the search of the Evansville office and the seizure if everything in the building except desks and chairs. The items listed on the search warrant suggested the FBI pretty much intended to empty the building. According to von Nothaus, the Feds seized about a million dollars worth of Liberty Dollar coins and precious metals that were onsite—including approximately two tons of commemorative Ron Paul coins. In addition, the company's bank accounts and other assets were all frozen. At the same time, according to another source, a similar search and seizure was taking place at the Sunshine Mint in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho.  

In addition to the inventory of coins and silver certificates, the agents seized all precious metal shipping and receiving invoices, as well as the Sunshine Mint records. Sunshine Mint is NORFED's repository in Idaho. Also seized were all dyes, plates, molds, numismatic striking equipment and computer programming software. Also confiscated were the lists of all 2,500 merchants who accept Liberty Dollars. Taken into custody at that time was von Nothaus, the architect of the Liberty Dollar who was detained only briefly. As von Nothaus noted, the FBI and Secret Service seized every ounce of metal in the company's possession including staples and paper clips.  

This reporter asked von Nothaus earlier if there was any chance that the gold and silver used to support the Liberty Dollar certificates—which have been ruled to be lawful—will be returned. Von Nothaus said he had posted a link on his website,, for people holding Liberty Dollar certificates to join a class action lawsuit to demand redemption for their certificates. Von Nothaus pointed out that if the supporters of the Liberty Dollar don't join the class action lawsuit, they will not get their money back. The Federal government will simply keep it as they do with the ill-gotten gains of drug dealers and other criminals, or white collar criminals charged with RICO violations. But, it appears to day, that even if von Nothaus escapes prison, the Liberty Dollars still in the possession of its adherents will be nothing more than momentos of a failed movement to restore the United States to the gold standard.

© 2007 Jon C. Ryter - All Rights Reserved

[Read "Whatever Happened to America?"]

Jon Christian Ryter is the pseudonym of a former newspaper reporter with the Parkersburg, WV Sentinel. He authored a syndicated newspaper column, Answers From The Bible, from the mid-1970s until 1985. Answers From The Bible was read weekly in many suburban markets in the United States.

Today, Jon is an advertising executive with the Washington Times. His website, has helped him establish a network of mid-to senior-level Washington insiders who now provide him with a steady stream of material for use both in his books and in the investigative reports that are found on his website.


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 This is sure interesting.  What is going to come of Ron Paul?  It will be a colorful 2008, I am sure.  KS




Posted By: Rayelan <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 18 November 2007, 3:32 a.m.

The following is an analysis of the FED seizure of the Liberty dollars and how the nwo has planned to use it to take down Ron Paul... or could it be a Reverse Trojan?

What's a Reverse Trojan??? It's allowing the Greeks to bring their Trojan horse inside the walls, just in time for the waiting Trojan soldiers to slaughter them.

This analysis arrived from one of our more informed readers.

It seems amazing to me that Ron Paul would allow his name to be associated with the Liberty Dollar in the first place.

It is overtly advertized as a symbol of freedom from the parasitic globalist federal reserve families. But it also is a certain lightning rod for eventual attack and isolation by the globalist nwo. Given its small size and limited distribution, it posed little risk to the Goliath Fed Reserve IOU moneymakers.

Ron Paul and his strategists must have known that he would invite eventual attack by the feds if he joined in partnership with this metal-backed coinage.

That has now happened.

Perhaps he was counting on an attack?

In hindsight, was he merely waving a red flag, ensuring that the overconfident nwo/fedreserve bull would blindly charge, especially after $4M streamed into his coffers in a matter of hours? Was the $4M itself part of a much bigger op to goad the complacent fed reserve and its puppetmasters out into the open?

Did the nwo suspect Paul had tapped a source of tremendous available resources? In Fed reserve banking, $10M in gold generates $300M in fed reserve fiat/IOU dollars.

Perhaps another banking cartel (the Austrians?) guaranteed Liberty/Paul a similar high volume loan guaranteed by the metals held in the Liberty vaults? If the Fed "got wind" of such a deal, then they would get real scared real quick about the certainty of the 2008 election, because it suggested Paul might have obtained sudden access to possibly $billions$ from non-nwo sources.

It all sounds like something Gunther and crew might plan. A Trojan horse inside of a Trojan horse.

What if that is exactly what Ron Paul was counting on?

In addition, with the Feds making a federal case against Liberty and its odd-ball but legal metal-backed collectable/barter coinage, Ron Paul now has an official US Federal/MSM platform for educating America and the World on the inherent fiat/IOU/worthless nature of the Federal Reserve Dollar.

A truly free and informed court would have to agree, and allow for this second form of coinage to remain available. While not legal tender itself, it opened the door to Americans hankering for other forms of foreign legal tender that is backed by some form of hard currency.

Paul could lay out what most at RMN already know that the fiat$ has a contrived value that is backed by the sweat and income of hardworking American citizens... not backed by the globalist corporations, bolshevik billionaires, and their banks who hide their assets off shore, and command the American populace with its wholly owned and manipulated government stooges and MSM entertrainment apparatus.

If the Feds did not attack liberty and confiscate millions in gold/silver, then Paul would look like a kook if he tried to make a big deal out of our need to have metal-backed collectable coins sold on local tv, or if he even tried to point out the short comings of the fed reserve system.

Now, it is the Fed making a very big deal out of this little company.

Now it appeasr the Fed has swallowed the bait, and Paul has the opportunity to yank back very hard on the hook for all to see.

What might at first look like a hole in Ron Paul's boat might actually be the landing ramps for the long-planned all-out very public offensive to educate Americans and elected representatives of the true nature of the financial shenanigans keeping America hostage.

As Raye has already pointed out, Ron Paul's best chance to make lemonade from this sour news is to go on the offensive and very publicly attack the very basis the Feds rely on for confiscating the metal reserves of the liberty dollar.

If this was the plan all along, then it seems there are some very powerful actors, using Ron Paul as point man to assist America and the World in dislodging the parasitic nwo.

Raye has written much about how the certain old royal lines of Europe (eg Austria) have been planning their return, to kick out the parasitic boslheviks and globalists who rose to power in the early 20th century and now control all political parties and the MSM. Is this what is happening now?

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