Adventists and Feastkeeping




Kevin Straub



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----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin Straub

To: Kevin Straub

Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:55 PM

Subject: Feastkeeping teacher John Vega gives his spin on the content of the last day message


Please pardon me for still harping on typical feastkeeping.  I won’t stay here forever!  Having once lent my own support in my own argument to keep the feasts, I now work to undo the damage that I have done.


John Vega is another one who is a loud voice for typical feastkeeping in Adventism. 


I have currently been engaged with another author, not John, whom I have not mentioned nor brought into any of these discussions, who has written in a book that the feasts are still binding upon Christians today and that they are attached to the Sabbath of the fourth commandment of the moral law, as support to and a guardian hedge around the 7th day Sabbath, all the while proclaiming that they are not a “salvational” issue.  I have pressed upon this author once again, this time rather insistently, that the rationale be given for calling the typical feasts “binding” and at the same time “non-salvational.”  I do not believe it can be done.


Generally speaking, the average Adventist feastkeeper and teacher of contemporary typical feastkeeping, holds that the call to keep the feasts is part and parcel with the call to keep the Sabbath of the fourth commandment and as such, they hold it to be the advanced light to come that would give added impetus to the third angel’s message, i.e., that it would be the work of the fourth angel to call the church and the world to “Torah,” the “Law of Moses,” which includes typical feastkeeping.  In their basic work with the public, they give little, if any, time to the rest of the law as found in the Pentateuch, but direct their energies virtually solely to the call to keep the feasts.  A survey of the popular literature and the DVD’s will bear this out, in spite of any protests that may be made by individual teachers of the law.  This message is held to be that which is attended by the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in the Latter Rain, which is generally expected to happen as another fulfillment of Pentecost.  They hold that they are the repairers of the breach and it is their work to fulfill the prophecies such as you will read in the following compilation by John Vega.  This message to keep the typical feasts, or “return to Torah,” is held to be the Elijah Message, the Loud Cry of the Fourth Angel, and the work of the final generation messengers aka the 144,000.


I have never been able to come to a position of active and overt support for the idea that keeping the feasts has to do with the last message to the world, although I probably did flirt with the possibility, at earlier times in my embrace of typical feastkeeping.  Because of my distance from this position, as held by the majority of modern Adventist feastkeepers, I have never found a settled meeting of minds with them and I am thankful for it, because it provided in me a certain cognitive break that predisposed me to ultimately come to a rejection of the teaching that the feasts are binding for Christians today. 


In the following compilation by John, I have taken the liberty to put my own comments in caps and square brackets, to highlight exactly what is the position of the teacher of modern Adventist typical feastkeeping.  I am not speaking from opinion, but as one who has been engaged with feastkeeping teachers; having read their books; watched their DVD’s; attended their convocations; held convocations at my home; and as having taught others to keep the feasts.  I think you will find this enlightening.  It is time to give this message as a warning to any who are trifling with the notion of going into typical feastkeeping.




Note by Ron: I have further emphasized Kevin’s bracketed portions by adding this color.


-----Original Message-----
From: john e vega []
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:41 AM
The popular ministry, like the Pharisees of old, filled with anger as their authority is questioned


Dear Messengers of Truth,


Please read the EGW quotes below. I think it will help you to continue to warn the people regardless of what the "leaders" do.


Messiah's words...


Matthew 7:14    Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


The popular ministry, like the Pharisees of old, filled with anger as their authority is questioned, will denounce the message [OF FEASTKEEPING] as of Satan, and stir up the sin-loving multitudes to revile and persecute those who proclaim it.--GC 607 (1911).  {LDE 210.4}


Work for Every True Disciple


     Every true follower of Christ has a work to do. God has given to every man his work. A few are now pointing to the roll of fast-fulfilling prophecy and proclaiming, Get ready, show your obedience to God by keeping His commandments [TO KEEP THE FEASTS]. This is no time for the messengers of God to stop to prop up those who know the truth, and who have every advantage. Let them go on to lift the standard and give the warning, "Behold, the Bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him." Many who hear the message--by far the greatest number--will not credit the solemn warning. Many will be found disloyal to the commandments of God, [INCLUDING FEASTKEEPING] which are a test of character. The Lord's servants will be called enthusiasts. Ministers will warn the people not to listen to them. Noah received the same treatment while the Spirit of God was urging him to give the message, whether men would hear or whether they would forbear.  {TM 232.3} 


     Come when it may, the advent of Christ will surprise the false teachers [WHO ARE SAYING THE FEASTS WERE NAILED TO THE CROSS] who are saying, "Peace and safety;" "all things continue as they were from the beginning." Thus saith the word of Inspiration, "Sudden destruction cometh upon them." The day of God shall come as a snare upon all who dwell upon the face of the whole earth. It comes to them as a prowling thief. "If the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up." Habitual watching is our only safety. We must be ever ready, that that day may not overtake us as a thief.  {TM 233.1} 


Influence of the Printed Page


     More than one thousand will soon be converted in one day, [TO FEASTKEEPING] most of whom will trace their first convictions to the reading of our publications.--Ev 693 (1885).  {LDE 213.4} 


     The results of the circulation of this book [The Great Controversy] are not to be judged by what now appears. By reading it some souls will be aroused and will have courage to unite themselves at once with those who keep the commandments [INCLUDING THE FEASTS] of God. But a much larger number who read it will not take their position until they see the very events taking place that are foretold in it. The fulfillment of some of the predictions will inspire faith that others also will come to pass, and when the earth is lightened with the glory of the Lord in the closing work, many souls will take their position on the commandments of God [INCLUDING THE FEASTS] as the result of this agency.--CM 128, 129 (1890).  {LDE 214.1} 


     In a large degree through our publishing houses is to be accomplished the work of that other angel who comes down from heaven with great power and who lightens the earth with his glory [WHICH INCLUDES THE CALL TO KEEP THE FEASTS] [Revelation 18:1].--7T 140 (1902).  {LDE 214.2} 



Many Adventists Brace Themselves Against the Light - The Modern Pharisees Reject The Feasts.  [NO CLARIFICATION BY ME IS REQUIRED HERE]


     There is to be in the [Seventh-day Adventist] churches a wonderful manifestation of the power of God, but it will not move upon those who have not humbled themselves before the Lord, and opened the door of the heart by confession and repentance. In the manifestation of that power which lightens the earth with the glory of God, [THE PROCLAMATION OF THE MESSAGE TO 'KEEP THE FEASTS'] they will see only something which in their blindness they think dangerous, something which will arouse their fears, and they will brace themselves to resist it. Because the Lord does not work according to their ideas and expectations they will oppose the work. "Why," they say, "should we not know the Spirit of God, when we have been in the work so many years?"--RH Extra, Dec. 23, 1890.  {LDE 209.3} 


     The third angel's message [TO KEEP THE FEASTS] will not be comprehended, the light which will lighten the earth with its glory will be called a false light, by those who refuse to walk in its advancing glory. [THOSE WHO REFUSE ABANDON THE ANTITYPE SO AS TO REVERT TO TYPICAL FEASTKEEPING] --RH May 27, 1890.  {LDE 210.1} 


Most Non-Adventists Will Reject the Warning


     Many who hear the message--by far the greatest number--will not credit the solemn warning. Many will be found disloyal to the commandments of God, [INCLUDING FEASTKEEPING] which are a test of character. The Lord's servants will be called enthusiasts. Ministers will warn the people not to listen to them. Noah received the same treatment while the Spirit of God was urging him to give the message, whether men would hear or whether they would forbear.--TM 233 (1895).  {LDE 210.2}


     Some will listen to these warnings, but by the vast majority they will be disregarded.--HP 343 (1897).  {LDE 210.3} 


     The popular ministry, like the Pharisees of old, filled with anger as their authority is questioned, will denounce the message as of Satan, and stir up the sin-loving multitudes to revile and persecute those who proclaim it. [THE FEASTKEEPERS WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF THE MOST POINTED WRATH OF THE WORLD, AS THEY WILL BE ALSO PERSECUTED BY THE "NOMINAL" ADVENTISTS, LAITY AND LEADERSHIP ALIKE.] --GC 607 (1911).  {LDE 210.4}


Multitudes Will Answer the Call, Accept the Feasts and the Torah and Come Out of the Doomed Churches [THE CALL = THE LOUD CRY, THE ELIJAH MESSAGE, THE 4TH ANGEL. . .]


     Souls that were scattered all through the religious bodies answered to the call [TO KEEP THE FEASTS ALONG WITH THE 7TH DAY SABBATH], and the precious were hurried out of the doomed churches, as Lot was hurried out of Sodom before her destruction.--EW 279 (1858).  {LDE 211.1} 


     There will be an army of steadfast believers who will stand as firm as a rock [AND KEEP THE FEASTS] through the last test.--3SM 390 (1888).  {LDE 211.2} 


     There are many souls to come out of the ranks of the world, out of the churches--even the Catholic Church--whose zeal will far exceed that of those who have stood in rank and file to proclaim the truth heretofore [BECAUSE THEY ARE THE FINAL REFORMERS, BRINGING US BACK TO THE ENTIRE LAW, INCLUDING THE KEEPING OF THE FEASTS].--3SM 386, 387 (1889).  {LDE 211.3} 


     Multitudes will receive the faith [IN TYPICAL FEASTKEEPING] and join the armies of the Lord.--Ev 700 (1895).  {LDE 211.4} 


     Many who have strayed from the fold will come back to follow the great Shepherd.--6T 401 (1900).  {LDE 211.5} 


     In heathen Africa, in the Catholic lands of Europe and of South America, in China, in India, in the islands of the sea, and in all the dark corners of the earth, God has in reserve a firmament of chosen ones [THE FEASTKEEPERS] that will yet shine forth amidst the darkness, revealing clearly to an apostate world the transforming power of obedience to His law [WHICH INCLUDES FEASTKEEPING]. Even now they [THE FEASTKEEPERS] are appearing in every nation, among every tongue and people; and in the hour of deepest apostasy, when Satan's supreme effort is made to cause "all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond," to receive, under penalty of death, the sign of allegiance to a false rest day, [THOSE WHO REFUSE TO SEE 'THE LIGHT' ON FEASTKEEPING ARE INCLUDED AMONGST THOSE WHO RECEIVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST] these faithful ones, "blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke," will "shine as lights in the world."--PK 188, 189 (c. 1914).  {LDE 211.6}


Thousands Converted in a Day


     Thousands in the eleventh hour will see and acknowledge the truth [OF THE 7TH DAY SABBATH ALONG WITH TYPICAL FEASTKEEPING]. . . . These conversions to truth will be made with a rapidity that will surprise the church, and God's name alone will be glorified.--2SM 16 (1890).  {LDE 212.1} 


     There will be thousands converted to the truth [OF THE SABBATH OF THE 4TH COMMANDMENT, ALONG WITH TYPICAL FEASTKEEPING] in a day who at the eleventh hour see and acknowledge the truth and the movements of the Spirit of God.--EGW'88 755 (1890).  {LDE 212.2} 


     The time is coming when there will be as many converted in a day as there were on the Day of Pentecost, after the disciples [WHO KEEP THE FEASTS] had received the Holy Spirit. [THE REST OF US ARE SEEN TO BE WALKING IN DISOBEDIENCE AND THEREFORE WILL NOT RECEIVE THE OUTPOURING] --Ev 692 (1905).  {LDE 212.3}




     A good many do not see it now, to take their position, [WITH THE FEASTKEEPERS] but these things are influencing their lives, and when the message [TO KEEP THE 7TH DAY SABBATH AND THE TYPICAL FEASTS] goes with a loud voice they will be ready for it. They will not hesitate long; they will come out and take their position.--Ev 300, 301 (1890).  {LDE 212.4} 


     Soon the last test [TO KEEP THE FEASTS, ALONG WITH THE TRUE SABBATH] is to come to all inhabitants of the earth. At that time prompt decisions will be made. Those who have been convicted under the presentation of the Word will range themselves under the bloodstained banner of Prince Emmanuel.  [BECOMING FEASTKEEPERS] --9T 149 (1909).  {LDE 213.1} 


     Every truly honest soul will come to the light of truth.--GC 522 (1911).  {LDE 213.2} 


     The message will be carried not so much by argument as by the deep conviction of the Spirit of God. The arguments [TO KEEP THE 7TH DAY SABBATH AND THE ANNUAL SABBATHS] have been presented. The seed has been sown, and now it will spring up and bear fruit. The publications [ADVOCATING TYPICAL FEASTKEEPING] distributed by missionary workers have exerted their influence, yet many whose minds were impressed [TO KEEP THE SABBATH AND THE FEASTS] have been prevented from fully comprehending the truth or from yielding obedience. Now the rays of light [ON FEASTKEEPING AND THE WEEKLY SABBATH] penetrate everywhere, the truth [THAT THE OBSERVANCE OF THE TYPICAL FEASTS ARE STILL BINDING] is seen in its clearness, and the honest children of God sever the bands which have held them. Family connections, church relations, are powerless to stay them now. Truth is more precious than all besides. Notwithstanding the agencies combined against the truth, a large number take their stand upon the Lord's side. [TO KEEP THE SABBATH DAY AND THE ANNUAL FESTIVALS]--GC 612 (1911).  {LDE 213.3}



John Vega



Note: Additional data on the issue of the Feasts:


Kevin Straub and Vance Ferrell are entirely correct. Feastkeeping is not binding on true Seventh-day Adventists. Those who are advocating feastkeeping should also sacrifice animals and partake of them! This fact lends to the farce of it all because the 144,000 will not be found eating meat! John Vega is a false prophet who thus contradicts Ellen White and Scripture. The ceremonies as contained in ordinances (feasts) was nailed to the cross. It was against the Jews in that they had to sacrifice their best of flock as a sacrifice for sin. Any continuance of this type that was met in the antitype by Christ’s sacrifice of Himself, is blasphemy of the highest order because the type was fulfilled by Christ atoning for our sin. No animal sacrifice or feastkeeping would now point to an event that already was fulfilled by Christ. Were they consistent with their false teaching, these folk would still be confessing their sins on animals in lieu of Christ. That is truly blasphemy!