Comparing Ulicia Unruh With Ellen White on Ezekiel 9! Is There a Separation Message in Ezekiel 9 and 22:17-31?

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Dear Reader,

Ulicia Unruh wrote the following remark concerning Ezekiel 9, and Bryan Bissell has said the same thing—that there is no call out message in Ezekiel 9.

----- Original Message -----
 From: Ulicia
 Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 8:46 PM
 Subject: [DefendEGW] Re: Come out of Jerusalem?
No, there is no call to come out of Jerusalem in Ezekiel 9. You are correct-- the man in LINEN GOES through the midst of the  city, through the midst of Jerusalem, it doesn't say He by passes Jerusalem and sets a mark on people who have come out of Jerusalem.

Ron responds:

Let’s see if Ulicia Unruh’s conclusion lines up with Ellen White and Scripture. Let’s see if Ulicia Unruh’s interpretations are reliable. Here are Ellen White’s comments on Ezekiel 9. Read them for yourself and decide whether you see a separation message in Ezekiel 9:

Ellen White’s Comments on Ezekiel 9 

     2-4 (Eph. 1:13; 4:30). A Mark Which Angels Read.--[Eph. 1:13 quoted.] What is the seal of the living God, which is placed in the foreheads of His people? It is a mark which angels, but not human eyes, can read; for the destroying angel must see this mark of redemption (Letter 126, 1898). {4BC 1161.4} 

     The angel with the writer's ink horn is to place a mark upon the foreheads of all who are separated from sin and sinners, and the destroying angel follows this angel (Letter 12, 1886). {4BC 1161.5} 

We are to separate from personal sin as well as separating from sinners and a church that sins corporately by violating God’s commands.  If this were not true, we might have remained in the other fallen churches.

     (Rev. 7:2.) Seal Is a Settling Into Truth.--Just as soon as the people of God are sealed in their foreheads--it is not any seal or mark that can be seen, but a settling into the truth, both intellectually and spiritually, so they cannot be moved--just as soon as God's people are sealed and prepared for the shaking, it will come. Indeed, it has begun already; the judgments of God are now upon the land, to give us warning, that we may know what is coming (MS 173, 1902). {4BC 1161.6} This ends Ellen White’s comments on Ezekiel 9 in the SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 7a, p. 1161.

The above statement was written in 1902. The shaking separates from sin and sinners. In the prefigure of A.D. 27-70, there was a separation from the apostate church going on long before the Abomination of Desolation occurred in the autumn of A.D. 66.

The Separation Message of Ezekiel 9 and Ezekiel 22:17-31 in the Shaking of A.D. 27-70

There can be no doubt that A.D. 27-70 was a shaking and separation time in the church of Christ. There can be no doubt that Ezekiel 22:17-31 tells where the dross (tares) was shaken. Read the following verses and see if you see a separation, shaking message in Ezekiel 22:17-31.

 17And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

 18Son of man, the house of Israel is to me become dross: all they are brass, and tin, and iron, and lead, in the midst of the furnace; they are even the dross of silver.

 19Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye are all become dross, behold, therefore I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem.

 20As they gather silver, and brass, and iron, and lead, and tin, into the midst of the furnace, to blow the fire upon it, to melt it; so will I gather you in mine anger and in my fury, and I will leave you there, and melt you.

 21Yea, I will gather you, and blow upon you in the fire of my wrath, and ye shall be melted in the midst therof.

 22As silver is melted in the midst of the furnace, so shall ye be melted in the midst thereof; and ye shall know that I the LORD have poured out my fury upon you.

 23And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

 24Son of man, say unto her, Thou art the land that is not cleansed, nor rained upon in the day of indignation.

 25There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.

 26Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

 27Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain.

 28And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.

 29The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully.

 30And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.

 31Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.


The Separation Message of Jeremiah 11:9-15


Jeremiah 11:14, 15 is a clear call out message. God said not to pray for Israel of that generation because she conspired with His enemies. That connotes unpardonable sin. Then, in verse 15, He asks the question: What hath my beloved (bride—church) to do in mine house (Sanctuary/Temple/Church), seeing she (the church) hath wrought lewdness with many (fallen churches—God’s enemies), and the Holy Flesh (God) is passed from thee? When thou doest evil, then thou rejoicest. Israel celebrated and that is exactly what SDA’s have done. When they did evil by conspiring and confederating with Babylon, they adopted Babylon’s celebration mode of worship.


In the separation message in Jeremiah 11:9-15, there was a conspiracy (verse 9), just as in Ezekiel 22:25. There was a conspiracy amongst the prophets (leaders) of Israel with God’s enemies. A synonym for confederacy is conspiracy. In Isaiah 8:9-14, God warns against a confederacy with His enemies. The SDA church has formed a confederacy and conspiracy with Babylon.


Vance Ferrell, a former credentialed SDA minister, tells how the church is indeed joined to Babylon’s confederacy and made a secret agreement to tone down the Sabbath and the Mark of the Beast issues in the name of Christian unity. What good reason do we have to trust Vance Ferrell’s statement about the church’s secret agreement with Babylon? Vance owns and operates a multi-million dollar SDA book printing business. Vance is a very astute business man. Do you believe Vance would jeopardize his business in the hands of a sue-happy church by telling a lie about them?


That secret agreement with Babylon means that the three angel’s messages and the Midnight Cry of Matthew 25, which Ellen White says gave power to the second angel’s message, have been betrayed. Ezekiel 9 and 22 occur because of such a betrayal. See Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 211, where it is prophesied that the leaders would betray sacred trusts. If you will check the margin reading for the words slaughter weapon in Ezekiel 9:2, in the KJV, it reads:


a weapon of his breaking in pieces. Then read Isaiah 8:9-14 where God says three times that He will break in pieces those who confederate with His enemies. When any church takes a course contrary to Nehemiah’s and conspires and confederates with God’s enemies, it is time to separate, to wit:


"'They that forsake the law praise the wicked.' Proverbs 28:4. When those who are uniting with the world, yet claiming great purity, plead for union with those who have ever been the opposers of the cause of truth, we should fear and shun them as decidedly as did Nehemiah. Such counsel is prompted by the enemy of all good. It is the speech of timeservers, and should be resisted as resolutely today as then. Whatever influence would tend to unsettle the faith of God' people in His guiding power, should be steadfastly withstood." E.G. White, Prophets and Kings, p. 660.


The church has praised the wicked by giving the Pope, Satan’s vicar, a gold medallion. That is tantamount to giving Satan a gold medal. The church has praised the wicked via George Vandeman’s book, What I Like About…, written in praise of the fallen churches.


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the southern states that seceded from the United States in 1861 


a union of political organizations [syn: confederation


a group of conspirators banded together to achieve some harmful or illegal purpose [syn: conspiracy


a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act [syn: conspiracy

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The Reasons for Separation From Apostasy in Every Succeeding Generation

Those who espouse Satan’s sophistry will tell you that before any member could be justified in separation, the SDA church would have to teach the four apostate doctrines of Babylon. That is not God’s truth. Israel never taught all the doctrines of Babylon, but Jesus gathered all the faithful out of her.

In the following statement you will find out the reasons why true reformers have separated from the apostate church of their fathers in every succeeding generation:

 "The Sanhedrin had rejected Christ's message and was bent upon His death therefore Jesus departed from Jerusalem, from the priests, the temple, the religious leaders, the people who had been instructed in the law, and turned to another class to proclaim His message, and to gather out those who should carry the gospel to all nations. As the light and life of men was rejected by the ecclesiastical authorities in the days of Christ, so it has been rejected in every succeeding generation. Again and again the history of Christ's withdrawal from Judea has been repeated. When the Reformers preached the word of God, they had no thought of separating themselves from the established church but the religious leaders would not tolerate the light, and those that bore it were forced to seek another class, who were longing for the truth. In our day few of the professed followers of the Reformers are actuated by their spirit. Few are listening for the voice of God, and ready to accept truth in whatever guise it may be presented. Often those who follow in the steps of the Reformers are forced to turn away from the churches they love, in order to declare the plain teaching of the word of God. And many times those who are seeking for light are by the same teaching obliged to leave the church of their fathers, that they may render obedience." E.G. White, Desire of Ages, p. 232.

There you have the reasons why true reformers have separated from apostate churches in every succeeding generation.

More on the Seal of God 

Chap. 233 - Who Receive the Seal?

And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. Rev. 14:5.  

     Only those who receive the seal of the living God will have the passport through the gates of the Holy City. . . . {Mar 241.1}

     The seal of the living God will be placed upon those only who bear a likeness to Christ in character. {Mar 241.2}

     As wax takes the impression of the seal, so the soul is to take the impression of the Spirit of God and retain the image of Christ. {Mar 241.3}

     Many will not receive the seal of God because they do not keep His commandments or bear the fruits of righteousness. {Mar 241.4}

     The great mass of professing Christians will meet with bitter disappointment in the day of God. They have not upon their foreheads the seal of the living God. Lukewarm and halfhearted, they dishonor God far more than the avowed unbeliever. They grope in darkness, when they might be walking in the noonday light of the Word, under the guidance of One who never errs. . . . {Mar 241.5}

The following statement is Ellen White’s counsel TO Laodiceans, Testimonies, Vol. 3, p. 252:


What greater deception can come upon human minds than a confidence that they are right when they are all wrong! The message of the True Witness finds the people of God in a sad deception, yet honest in that deception. They know not that their condition is deplorable in the sight of God. While those addressed are flattering themselves that they are in an exalted spiritual condition, the message of the True Witness breaks their security by the startling denunciation of their true condition of spiritual blindness, poverty, and wretchedness. The testimony, so cutting and severe, cannot be a mistake, for it is the True Witness who speaks, and His testimony must be correct. {3T 252.4}


"Most startling messages will be borne by men of God's appointment, messages of a character to WARN the people, to AROUSE them. And while some will be PROVOKED by the warning, and led to RESIST LIGHT AND EVIDENCE, we are to see from this that we are giving the TESTING MESSAGE FOR THIS TIME. Messages will be given OUT OF THE USUAL ORDER." Testimonies, vol. 9, p. 137.


The most startling denunciation is regarded as being an accuser of the brethren—undeserved, overly severe, Satanic criticism.


What messages out of the usual order or from the usual order are CAUSING the shaking? Point me to messages from folk like Ulicia Unruh and her SDA minister husband, that are a startling denunciation of Laodiceans. Show me a most startling message from any SDA pastor that is a startling denunciation of Laodiceans, and I will show you a false prophet in the person of Ellen White, because she said that the dumb-dog watchmen would NEVER AGAIN, show the House of Jacob their sins. If there is a most startling denunciatory message from any SDA pastor (watchman), then Ellen White would thus be a false prophet. The only most startling and denunciatory messages TO Laodiceans that I know of are from the true reformer camp.


I’ll show you something very deceptive by the leaders of the church and the White Estate. Ellen White said that the shaking would be caused by a denunciatory message TO Laodiceans. Notice the following statement that says OF the Laodiceans. It is either TO or OF, not both! What follows is just as I cut and pasted it from the White Estate Complete Writings of Ellen G. White:


Chap. 193 - A View of the Shaking


For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel. Eze. 38:19.


     I saw some, with strong faith and agonizing cries, pleading with God. Their countenances were pale and marked with deep anxiety, expressive of their internal struggle. Firmness and great earnestness was expressed in their countenances; large drops of perspiration fell from their foreheads.... {Mar 201.1}


     Evil angels crowded around, pressing darkness upon them to shut out Jesus from their view, that their eyes might be drawn to the darkness that surrounded them, and thus they be led to distrust God and murmur against Him. Their only safety was in keeping their eyes directed upward. Angels of God had charge over His people, and as the poisonous atmosphere of evil angels was pressed around these anxious ones, the heavenly angels were continually wafting their wings over them to scatter the thick darkness. {Mar 201.2}


     As the praying ones continued their earnest cries, at times a ray of light from Jesus came to them, to encourage their hearts and light up their countenances. Some, I saw, did not participate in this work of agonizing and pleading. They seemed  indifferent and careless.... The angels of God... went to the aid of the earnest, praying ones. . . . But His angels left those who made no effort to help themselves, and I lost sight of them. {Mar 201.3}


     I asked the meaning of the shaking I had seen and was shown that it would be caused by the straight testimony called forth by the counsel of the True Witness of the Laodiceans. . . . {Mar 201.4}


     My attention was then turned to the company I had seen, who were mightily shaken. . . . The company of guardian angels around them had been doubled, and they were clothed with an armor from their head to their feet. . . . {Mar 201.5}


     I heard those clothed with the armor speak forth the truth with great power. It had effect....I asked what had made this great change. An angel answered, "It is the latter rain, the refreshing from the presence of the Lord, the loud cry of the third angel." {Mar 201.6}


There is a message TO Laodiceans by true reformers. Ellen White says that Laodicea is the foolish virgins state of the church. How can a message arising OF the foolish virgins reform the foolish virgins when the presence of God is not in their midst’s?


"The state of the Church represented by the foolish virgins, is also spoken of as the Laodicean state." E.G. White, Review and Herald, 8/19/1890.


"The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of God is not in her midst." E.G. White, Notebook Leaflets, p. 99, 1898.


"To the end of time, the presence of the Spirit is to abide with the true church." E.G. White, Acts of the Apostles, p. 55.


“From the beginning, faithful souls have constituted the church on earth.  In every age the Lord has had His watchmen, who have borne a faithful testimony to the generation in which they lived.  These sentinels gave the message of warning; and when they were called to lay off their armor, others took up the work.  God brought these witnesses into covenant relation with Himself, uniting the church on earth with the church in heaven.  He has sent forth His angels to minister to His church, and the gates of hell have not been able to prevail against His people.”  E.G. White, The Acts of the Apostles, p. 12. 


The gates of hell will not prevail against faithful souls--obviously.


"The members of the church triumphant--the church in heaven--will be permitted to draw near to the members of the church militant, to aid them in their necessity." E. G. White, The Southern Watchman, Sep. 8, 1903.


Who are the members of the church triumphant?

"Characteristics of True Reformers.--Here are given the characteristics of those who shall be reformers, who will bear the banner of the third angel's message, those who avow themselves God's commandment-keeping people, and who honor God, and are earnestly engaged, in the sight of all the universe, in building up the old waste places. Who is it that calls them, The repairers of the breach, The restorers of paths to dwell in? It is God. Their names are registered [written--Heb. 12:22, 23] in heaven as reformers, restorers, as raising the foundations of many generations." E. G. White, SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 4, 1151.

I rest my case with the obvious evidence. There is no room for error here! There are no ellipses here! There is no deception here! Except as perpetrated by the leaders of a New Movement church that has removed God, 1SM 205.