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In
the following link (below), Robert Temple gives a very myopic personal
opinion of the real conspiracy picture that has existed since the first
bending to Satan in the Garden of Eden. Mr. Temple believes as most
Adventists do that the be all and end all as far as
the end-time beast element is concerned is the papacy. He totally neglects
the entity of the ten horns that hate the whore and will burn her (Revelation
17). Is this why Ellen White said we may have less to say about the Catholics
in some lines at the end. In other words, there are indeed “other lines” of
reality in connection with the beast with 10 horns that we should be familiar
with less we appear as myopic and ignorant as Robert Temple on the matter. Alex Jones is ignorant of Rome’s
role as the whore that rides the beast and most professing Seventh-day
Adventists are just
as wantonly ignorant of the identity of the 10 horns who hate
the whore and will burn her (high echelon Free Mason Jews who control Masonry
at the top) who first infiltrated the Catholic church under the leadership of
the Jewish author of the Jesuit disciplines, Ignatius Loyola. And pursuant to
this ironical fact, the Catholics blame the Jews as being the antichrist
(Jerusalem sits on 7 hills also), and the Jews blame the Catholics, when all
the while it is both. Temple opines: “The conspiracy theorists actually tend to point the finger
away from the Babylon of the Three Angel’s Messages – Rome. Alex Jones for
one has been confronted with the fact that Rome is behind these conspiracies,
but he adamantly fights against this view. You’d think by his reaction that
you are a complete idiot to consider that the Vatican is the mastermind
behind anything evil at all. Meanwhile, it is revealed to the diligent reader
of the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy that the final conflict will be between
the church of God and the church of Satan. Since the infliction of the
deadly wound in 1798, many conflicts have been brought about through Rome’s
schemes to regain the civil authority over the whole world as she used to
enjoy. Her servants are making sure she is well hidden behind the façade of conspiracies,
deflecting our attentions away from her, and the development of the three fold
union, by the use of these little white rabbits. These conspiracies that they
want us to follow are simple and carelessly covered, it takes little
concentration to see them, and the TV generations are lapping it up.” Fact is,
some writers, like Temple, point the finger at only one of the two aspects of
the beast of Revelation 17. The whore (Rome) rides on a ten horned beast. The
whore and the 10 horn powers are ancient enemies. Alex Jones specializes in
the 10 horn powers which Temple and most SDA are totally ignorant of. They are abysmally ignorant of the fact that
the Jesuit Order was originated by Ignatius Loyola, a Jew, who at the time of
the Spanish Inquisition under Torquemada, was forced to “convert” at penalty
of life. Loyola gathered like Jews and formed his famous Spiritual Exercises
of Spiritual Formation, which apostate SDA leaders have not smuggled into the
church. Loyola and his Jesuit faction
became as a subterfuge Trojan Horse infiltrate into the Catholic church and has wreaked all manner of calumny over the years by means
of blackmailing the popes because of the sexual scandals and being
responsible for the untimely death of some popes. So Adventists have
specialized in one aspect (player) of the beast powers and non—SDA
have specialized in the other aspects—the ten horn powers on the beast the
Whore rides upon. The ten horns give power to the Whore (Rome) insofar as it
advances their cause, but ultimately, when she is no longer of “use,” she
will be burned by them. (Rev. 17). Why is it important to know
about both players—the ten horns as well as the “little horn?” What if the
bride did not know what was occurring when the 10 horns burn the little horn?
She might have cause to doubt the Word of God and think it had failed. But of
course that won’t be the case for the bride of Christ will be informed of
about all the players—the part played by the 10 horns as well as the “little
horn.” Thus it is woeful ignorance on
the part of Temple for him to remonstrate against those who know and teach
about all the players, which act he scorns as unnecessary. That is like
saying that God’s mention of the ten horns is superfluous and unnecessary. 16And the ten
horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall
hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her
flesh, and burn her with fire. 17For
God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their
kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. Rev.
17:16, 17. Temple speaks
as though those who seek to find all the meaning of Daniel and Revelation
(all the players and their function) might be motivated by fear, but God put
the data there to be understood. There will always be those who are motivated
by fear—even some who learn only as much as Temple advocates, will be
motivated by fear rather than love. Temple asks: “Why study evil? That is
studying for Satan’s church.” To which I would add: by his follacious reasoning why study
the beast power and the evils that it has performed over the centuries?! Why
study any of Satan’s devices which are taught by the Spirit of Prophecy and
the Bible? Ellen White has an entire chapter on the snares of Satan. Is that
studying for Satan’s church? The SOP says much about the fall of Satan and
how it occurred. Is that studying out of fear and for Satan’s church?! If one
believes Temple, why study The Great
Controversy?! Temple
quotes: ““God's
word has given warning of the impending danger; let this be unheeded, and the
Protestant world will learn what the purposes of Rome really are, only when
it is too late to escape the snare. She is silently growing into power. Her
doctrines are exerting their influence in legislative halls, in the churches,
and in the hearts of men. She is piling up her lofty and massive structures
in the secret recesses of which her former persecutions will be repeated.
Stealthily and unsuspectedly she is strengthening
her forces to further her own ends when the time shall come for her to
strike. All that she desires is vantage ground, and this is already being
given her. We shall soon see and shall feel what the purpose of the Roman
element is. Whoever shall believe and obey the word of God will thereby incur
reproach and persecution.” Great Controversy page 581. Rome would
grow even more “silently into power,” and her doctrines would proliferate all
the more were it not for the faithful watchmen who have exposed her
conspiracies over the centuries. Her stealth and cunning have been aided by
the church’s lack in exposing her errors. Nevertheless, Temple makes some
good points that we must practice as well. 1.
The
End of the Gentile Dispensation Spells the End of Civilization The
first Jesuits were crypto-Jews. Ignatius Loyola himself was a
crypto-Jew of the Occult
Cabala. A crypto-Jew is a Jew who converts to another religion ... 2.
Biography:
Ignatius Loyola, founder and missionary
(31 July 1556) In^igo de Recalde
de Loyola, youngest of thirteen (one of my sources says .... When Ignatius was accused of having
partly Jewish ancestry, he replied, ... Less to say about the Catholics
in some lines “There
is need of a much closer study of the Word of God; especially should Daniel and the Revelation have attention as never
before in the history of our work. We may have less to say in some lines, in regard to
the Roman power and the Papacy; but we should call attention to what the
prophets and apostles have written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit
of God. The Holy Spirit has so shaped
matters, both in the giving of
the prophecy and in the events
portrayed, as to teach that the human agent is to be kept out of
sight, hid in Christ, and that the Lord God of heaven and His law are to be
exalted. Read the book of Daniel. Call up, point by point, the history of the
kingdoms there represented.... The
light that Daniel received from God was given especially for these last
days. The visions he saw by the banks
of the Ulai and Hiddekel, the great rivers of Shinar, are
now in process of fulfillment, and all
the events foretold will soon come to pass. Consider
the circumstances of the Jewish nation when the prophecies of Daniel were
given. Let us give more time to the study of the Bible. We do not understand the Word as we
should. The book of Revelation opens
with an injunction to us to understand the instruction that it contains. "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this
prophecy," God declares, "and keep those things which are written
therein: for the time is at hand." Revelation 1:3. When
we as a people understand what this book means to us, there will be seen
among us a great revival. We do
not understand fully the lessons that it teaches, notwithstanding the
injunction given us to search and study it. Testimonies to Ministers,
112-113. Some
foolishly maintain that it does not good to know about the truth of the
conspiracies because we can do nothing about them. That is tantamount to
saying that it does not good to know the prophecies in Daniel and Revelation
revealing end-time events because we can do nothing about them. That is a
lie. We can be intelligent as to the urgency of the times by a knowledge of these prophecies and present the real, live
fulfillment of these events and their players (including the 10 horn powers)
right before our very eyes as evidence of the verity of the Bible and the
closeness to the end of all things. For example, it was a deep study of
fulfilled prophecies when I was a teenager that made a believer out of me. One
of the most important factors in obtaining a knowledge
of Satan’s conspiracies is not just to show how successful he has been, but
to demonstrate the fact to God’s people that it is time to stop trying to
build empires on this earth because it is almost all over and Jesus is
coming. For
example, when I present material that proves Obama is not a citizen of the
U.S.A., it is not with a view toward doing anything about it, but to show
just how corrupt the system really is and that there is no hope but in Christ
Jesus. I have an acquaintance who believes things will get better and that we
should remain positive. Fact is, we are heading into
the worst time of trouble every known on planet earth, Matthew 24:21. My
purpose in presenting waymarks to Satan’s success
via his conspiratorial methodologies is to demonstrate how close the end is
and how urgent it is that we cease sin and be ready to vindicate the
character of God’s love, which we can never do as sinners and empire builders
on this flailing earth. Here
is the view of Robert Temple: http://www.futurenews.ca/books/Conspiracy%20Theories.pdf Below is the view of Kevin Straub, which is well balanced, well
stated, and so much more fair and just than that of Temple. —rwb ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Straub To: Kevin Straub
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:45 AM Subject: RE: Study Of
Conspiracy Theories Hi Kelly, Thanks for the article. I will respond. This is one author’s slant. Perhaps he
does not deal too much with secular people or even those of other faiths. There is much validity in what he says,
in that the expositors out there are not properly connecting the dots; they
are not standing back far enough to see the whole picture. But on the other
side of this, we must not abandon many of the common people who are coming
into awareness and understanding of various parts of the picture. We may not be able to educate teachers,
for pride of opinion is a major hurdle to cross in trying to teach teachers
of any subject, anything. Especially in matters pertaining to political and
religious themes. However, as we mingle with people, we have here a common
area of interest that we can connect with them in any number of subject
areas: health, religion, finance, education, media, politics, etc. Every
institution of the world and peoples’ dealing with life in every area has to
do with the systems that are usurped by the god of this world, to the end of his own agenda of total control and annihilation of God’s
people. This is the part that people don’t know and as we enter into
discourse with them, we steer them into the right channel and get them
thinking about how all of it is tied together in a common war,
that we know as “the great controversy.” This isn’t about chasing rabbits, if we
are called to hone our view to the conspiratorial knowledge, which all of
us are, actually, as part of the people who understand and proclaim the
third angel’s message. As we must know Who God Is, As He Is, we must also
know who Babylon is, as it is. Isa. 21:6 For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Go,
set a watchman, let him declare what he seeth.
21:7
And he saw a chariot [with] a couple of horsemen, a chariot of
asses, [and] a chariot of camels; and he hearkened diligently with much
heed: 21:8
And he cried, A lion: My lord, I stand continually upon the
watchtower in the daytime, and I am set in my ward whole nights: 21:9
And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, [with] a couple of horsemen. And
he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images
of her gods he hath broken unto the ground. 21:10 O my
threshing, and the corn of my floor: that which I have heard of the LORD
of hosts, the God of Israel, have I declared unto you. 21:11 The burden
of Dumah. He calleth to
me out of Seir, Watchman, what of the night?
Watchman, what of the night? 21:12 The
watchman said, The morning cometh, and also the night: if ye will inquire,
inquire ye: return, come. Of course, for some, who do not keep
things in perspective, it becomes an all-consuming endeavor. Some even go
loopy in their focus on conspiracy. We must help them. We met a father and husband who had come
from Texas to Idaho, had packed up his family in the middle of the night,
called a taxi, then purchased a used car, cash, transferred their hastily
packed bags and continued their journey not knowing where they were going.
The Lord did guide them, I believe, as they ended up in the mountains where
we were previously staying with a doctor and his wife. He believed the sun
was going to burn us all up, as of September last. It didn’t happen and he
changed the date. He implored us to stay by and help him dig a cave in the
hillside. I hear that he did dig a hole. The owners of the property are
planning to use it for potatoes, as I had suggested to let
him go ahead with his project and do it in such a way as would serve for good
cool storage! We spent an entire day around the table, teaching him and his
family the truth. He was understanding what we were
saying, and his wife seems to believe. We came back after the time for the
sun had passed and talked some more. I hear they have gone back to TX, now,
so I don’t know what happened there. We still have to catch up on that story. This is probably one of those things
that we should not go into unbidden, you know, going to where “error is
preached.” If we aren’t properly grounded we can get lost on those rabbit
trails. Most of these expositors conclude by telling the people to resist, to rise up, in one way or another. They hold out a hope
for reforming the way the country is run, the way the world is run. They do
not understand that this is impossible, that this world is written off and
the new must come and our only hope is to be in Christ, so that we are with
Him in safety of the ark of the New Jerusalem when the world explodes, to
watch Him create the new one and give us our place in it. Also, not everyone
is cut out for the knowledge that comes in studying at deeper levels of the
so-called “conspiracy.” It is so pervasive that it can be overwhelming to the
sensitive soul. Truly, in some areas of the study, things are quite ugly, too
ugly for contemplation, except as a passing acknowledgment that they are
happening. For example, the mind-control program, “Monarch.” In all our work in studying conspiracy,
we are doing the message, for it is about the revelation of God’s character
in contrast to the character of Satan. We cannot do this except we get into
the details. We show how he is at work in all of the worlds systems
and how he has been giving an upside-down version of the controversy at the
high levels of teaching in the Luciferian secret
societies, in that he says God is the tyrant and he is the freedom fighter.
The work we are doing now is part of the process of revealing the history and
character of Satan. “The aim of the great
rebel has ever been to justify himself and to prove the divine government
responsible for the rebellion. To this end he has bent all the power of his
giant intellect. He has worked deliberately and systematically, and
with marvelous success, leading vast multitudes to accept his version of
the great controversy which has been so long in progress. For thousands
of years this chief of conspiracy has palmed off falsehood for truth.
But the time has now come when the rebellion is to be finally defeated and the
history and character of Satan disclosed. In his last great effort to
dethrone Christ, destroy His people, and take possession of the City of God,
the archdeceiver has been fully unmasked.
Those who have united with him see the total failure of his cause. Christ's
followers and the loyal angels behold the full extent of his machinations
against the government of God. He is the object of universal abhorrence.
{DD 56.4} What we are doing is not for the purpose
of fear-mongering, by any means. As we study the character of God, such
motive would be far from us, for we know that the message is intended to
secure a people that serve God entirely free from fear. Writers such as this
Roland Temple do not have what we have, therefore they do not understand
entirely the subject of which they speak, saying utter nonsense like “When you
study conspiracies, your heart is being groomed by Satan for his church.” Temple gets to sit on
his high moral ground and speak as one already versed in the “conspiracies,” the true movements
afoot in this world, as one with the basic schema in place, having a certain
knowledge of its relation to the great controversy, but at the same time telling us we are
going to Satan for attaining to the same knowledge. He even gets into instructing us,
based upon knowledge of conspiracy, “Don’t think for a minute that what is
happening in the governments is just random acts of open stupidity and
personal greed,” going on to explain further why it is so, according to his
own research. If he hadn’t at one time been a
“conspiracy theorist,” then he could not instruct us in this way. I find his general
tenor to be hypocritical, actually. His is a totally wrong-headed approach. He should be telling
us, “Yes, it is true, there is a vast conspiracy, and here is how it relates
to the great controversy.” He says: “Treason is
happening world wide, as every country is being
prepared to be run from the Vatican.” I would add, “and then to turn upon the
Vatican in utter revulsion.” The point here is that we are not going to
understand what is going on except as we continue to watch world events unfold
in relation to Bible prophecy, not only with a view to their own preparedness
but to the saving of souls. This is what a true “conspiracy theorist” will
do. Temple is not fair in that he attacks anyone who would do this by
labeling them as panic-mongers. Note by Ron: I would add that those
who turn upon the Vatican in utter revulsion (hate),
are the Seccret Society Masonic Jews who are now
combined with the Jesuits who are infiltrate Jews into the Catholic church.
This is the entity that hates the whore and burns her—Revelation 17. What
does this knowledge prove? · It proves that as
Ellen White prophesied, we should have nothing to do with secret societies. · It proves that the
arch enemies in Christ’s day, the Jews and the Romans, are still at it. · It proves that
apostate Jews are no better than apostate Roman Gentiles. · It proves that a
faction of world Jewry sold out to Satan’s offer to Christ in the wilderness.
That faction of Jews controls the world through the World Bank. · It proves that there
are other players in the antichrist portfolio and that if we are to be
intelligent in the workings of one of the players, we should be intelligent
in the agenda of all players. (All emphasis in this color is by Ron. End
note. There comes a time when the church
militant lays down its weapons. Until then, it is war and we are in it. We
can’t shy from the enemy because he is ugly. We have to confront, not with
carnal weapons, but with truth. Gonna lay down, my burden, Down by the riverside, Down by the riverside, Down by the riverside, Gonna lay down, my sword
and shield, Down by the riverside, Gonna study war no more. And I ain’t gonna study war no more, Ain’t gonna study war no more, Ain’t gonna study, war, no more. ~K From:Kelly Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 2:28 AM To: Kevin Straub Subject: Study Of Conspiracy Theories Thought you'd
appreciate this article. Addendum by Ron: 1. PDF] File
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complaint charges Obama birth record 'forged' In this world of political intrigue and manipulation of the minds and
hearts of people, no lie is too big. Why do we bother to follow any of this
stuff? What does it matter? Many think they are going to effect change for
the better by raising awareness and arouse the sleeping masses to the fact
that the noose is tightening. Global Elitists are building their empire under
master Lucifer, aiming for that mother of all totalitarian regimes, aka the
New World Order, under which the god of this world will think to eradicate
the last vestiges of allegiance to the Creator. We aren’t going to build a
world of righteousness, peace, equality and justice. That notion is simply
another tool of the elitists, working through agent provocateurs such as Alex
Jones, in an attempt to multiply and intensify confrontations between the
people and the authorities, creating instability and mayhem in order to call
in further authoritarian displays of violence in the quelling of
demonstration and remonstrance which, when broadcast, stir up the indignation
of more of the populace. Look at recent story of Adam Kokesh and the
quiet dancing at the Jefferson Memorial display. Ridiculous nonsense. It has
to be the dialectic at work, if you think about it. This is all intended to
escalate to a point where the greater mass of people will tolerate more
restrictions of freedoms in order to maintain security. The point I am making is that while it can be shown conclusively that
humanity is being corralled and controlled and set up for the compelling of
total obeisance to the ruling power, even in matters of conscience, according
to prophecy, we are not in fact going to bring about any real solution to the
breakdown of society and ruination of the planet. Sin is the real problem and
only God can deal with it and He is dealing with it without force and
deception. God’s people are in the business of revealing a government
entirely different from the governments of this world. His people will not
fight using worldly methods, even in exercising “their rights” to peaceful
protest, or civil disobedience, except in matters of the conscience,
regarding allegiance to God and His law above man and his law. They will not
be embroiled in political activism, as they must be about God’s work of
establishing the kingdom of righteousness, the kingdom of God, which is not
of this world. We must realize that this world is not going to be made over,
but it is slated for destruction, for total dissolution into non-existence,
after which God will create all things new. We are, however, not to be ignorant of the times and of events that
are transpiring. We know that Gideon went into the enemy camp to get information. As he
spied in on a conversation, he heard that victory to God’s people was
imminent. The following piece of information is interesting and important, for
it underscores the fact that our visible leaders, especially of the USA, are
not in power through any true exercise of freedom. There is a power above the
president, that controls the presidents. The
president knows, and the power above the president knows, that he is a man
planted for a special purpose. According to US law he is not eligible to be
president, but there is a higher law, that of the globalists and their
agenda. Obama cannot show valid US citizenship. Why is that? Couldn’t they
groom a man for this time who is American born? “Satanic agencies in human form will
take part in this last great conflict to oppose the building up of the
kingdom of God. And heavenly angels in human guise will be on the field of
action. Men and women have confederated to oppose the Lord God of heaven, and the church is
only half awake to the situation. There needs to be much more of
prayer, much more of earnest effort among professed believers. {4BC
1142.7} “The two opposing parties will
continue to exist till the closing up of the last great chapter in this
world's history. Satanic agencies are in every city. We cannot afford to
be off our guard for one moment (Letter 42, 1909).” {4BC 1142.8} You may have seen the study on how the Aramaic rendition of “lightning
from heaven” is pronounced. Very interesting. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105527 ~KS è |
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