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According to the British Union Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, BUC News - 24, October, 2008, in a News Article entitled: ADVENTISTS WELCOMED BY CHURCHES TOGETHER IN WALES [(article by) John Surridge, Welsh Mission President]


In what [in my opinion] seems to be a "proud" and "joyful" declaration, the Article states:


The Seventh-day Adventist Church in Wales was welcomed into Category B Membership of Cytn (Churches Together in Wales) at their annual general meeting in Aberystwyth on Tuesday 14 October. Although the Adventist church has for many years had a good relationship with Cytn this formal step was necessary following a change in their legal status to a Company Limited by Guarantee. -- Underlining emphasis mine--(James Franks).


Cytun: ( -- Churches Together in Wales - was established in 1990 as a successor to the Welsh Council of Churches; and is a full member of CTBI (Churches Together in Britain and Ireland). CTBI was formed on September 1, 1990 as the successor to the British Council of Churches. The new body, unlike its predecessor, includes the Catholic Church as full members. CTBI is a member of the World Council of Churches


Interestingly enough, at the Cytun Website (, the Seventh-day Adventist Church is listed under the heading: Associates - rather than: Member-denominations. But as we have just read from the Official News Agency of the BUC-SDA, the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Wales was on Tuesday 14 October, welcomed into SOME TYPE OF what? MEMBERSHIP.


The BUC News Article then goes on to state:


Welsh Mission President Pastor John Surridge represented the Seventh-day Adventist Church at Cytn meetings for a number of years back in the 1990s and then went on to represent the wider church at the national ecumenical body, Churches Together in Britain and Ireland. (CTBI). Having returned to Wales as Mission President he is glad to meet up again with former friends from the other churches. Speaking after the meeting he said, "I was surprised to see so many people I knew from before at the AGM. Most of them were already familiar with the Seventh-day Adventist Church and a couple of people there even had Adventist relatives."

The Seventh-day Adventist position on ecumenical relations is that where possible we should have observer-consultant status. When this is not available we should apply for the closest alternative. In the case of Cytn this is Category B Membership, which allows representatives to attend and speak at meetings, but does not give them voting rights.

Regardless of "Voting Rights", the Seventh-day Adventist Church pays annual "Membership Dues" to Cytun (Churches Together in Wales). Cytun, in turn, pays annual "Membership Dues" to CTBI (Churches Together in Britain and Ireland). CTBI, in turn, pays annual "Membership Dues" to the WCC (World Council of Churches). These Membership Dues are paid using YOUR TITHE DOLLARS (assuming you pay tithes to the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Great Britian or Ireland).

In 1844, the mainstream Protestant churches fell for rejecting the light of the Midnight Cry and the first and second angels' messages. Thus, the principle of rejecting light causes a church to become a sister to fallen Babylon. Here is very clear evidence of this fact:

"As the churches refused to receive the first angel's message, they REJECTED THE LIGHT FROM HEAVEN AND FELL FROM THE FAVOR OF GOD. They trusted to their own strength, and by opposing the first message placed themselves where they could not see the light of the second angel's message. But the beloved of God, who were oppressed, accepted the message, 'Babylon is fallen,' and LEFT THE CHURCHES." (E.G. White, Early Writings, 237).

"Babylon of Revelation 18 [Revelation 18:1-8 quoted].--The whole chapter shows that Babylon that has fallen is the churches (plural) who will not receive the messages of warning the Lord has given in the first, second, and third angel's messages. They refused the truth and accepted a lie. They refused the messages of truth. See 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12." (E.G. White Manuscript Releases Volume One, p. 361).

Did you know that the SDA church has, in essence, declared herself to be part of Babylon the Great, and told all her members to separate from her!

Please read very closely to what the SDA church herself has stated:

"The capstone of the ecumenical effort came with the creation of the World Council of Churches .... "On the basis of Bible prophecy and the writings of Ellen G. White, SDA's anticipate the eventual success of the ecumenical movement both in eliminating the divisions of Protestantism and in reuniting Christendom by bridging the gulf that separates non-Catholic communions from Rome. The ecumenical movement will then become a concerted effort to unite the world and to secure universal peace and security by enlisting the power of the civil government in a universal religio-political crusade to eliminate all dissent. SDA's envision this crusade as the great apostasy to which John the revelator refers as `Babylon the great.'

They understand, also, that God's last message of mercy to the world prior to the return of Christ in power and glory will consist of a warning against this great apostate movement, and a call to all who choose to remain loyal to Him to leave the churches connected with it." SDA Encyclopedia, vol 10 of the Bible Commentary Reference Series, p 410-411.

What did the SDA church just state to all her membership?

That ANY church connected with the Ecumenical Movement and united with the WCC becomes part of Babylon the Great, and all who choose to serve God and remain loyal to Him must separate themselves from that church.


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Thanks James,