Adrian
Welsh on Ernie Knoll
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It is somewhat amazing that Adrian Welsh
defends Ernie Knoll’s dreams. But not really. Both are ignorant of the
solidity of the type/antitype literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9 and exactly
what occurred in the last literal fulfillment and must occur in the next
literal fulfillment for it to indeed be literal as Ellen White says it will
be. One can choose between God’s Word and Ellen White as to whether Ezekiel 9
is literal or not, and whether or not the apostate Jewish church was cleansed
and rained upon (Early/Latter rain) in the last literal fulfillment of
Ezekiel 9. Ezekiel 22 leaves no room for debate on this issue as I prove
further down in this document. Ezekiel 22 is an elaboration on Ezekiel 9.
There were no chapter designations in the original manuscripts. What makes Ernie Knoll a false prophet is
his dreams that the omega of apostasy new movement, new organization “church,”
masquerading as the Seventh-day Adventist Church, will be cleansed and rained
upon by the Holy Spirit latter rain. Adrian Welsh believes the same lie. This
totally contradicts Scriputure in Ezekiel 22. This
chapter was part of the literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9, so any future
literal fulfillment would not be literal as Ellen White says it will be—IF APOSTATE
NEW MOVEMENT ADVENTISM WAS CLEANSED AND RAINED UPON. Knoll’s and Welsh’s
error stem from their lack of knowledge of Scripture and the Spirit of
Prophecy, as regards the prefigure
(type) literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9 which in turn demands a literal
typical fulfillment or it would not be literal at all. But Ellen White says
both--that it will be literally fulfilled and that the words of Jesus to His
disciples were twofold, symbolizing: 1.
The destruction of Jerusalem beginning at His Sanctuary. 2.
The terrors of the last great day. The Great Controversy, p. 25. Careless readers bereft of spiritual discernment, apply only
point number 2 to the end time and the destruction of the world. They can’t
discern the fact that the destruction of Jerusalem was a prefigure type,
demands a similar antitypical fulfillment BEGINNING with His Sanctuary, HIS CHURCH, 5T 211, and ending with
Babylon—the world, The Great
Controversy, pp. 653-656. Begin
at My Sanctuary -- "Here we see that the church--the Lord's sanctuary--was
the first to feel the stroke of the wrath of God. The ancient men,
those to whom God had given great light and who had stood as guardians of the
spiritual interests of the people, had betrayed their trust. They had taken
the position that we need not look for miracles and the marked manifestation
of God's power as in former days. Times have changed. These words strengthen
their unbelief, and they say: The Lord will not do good, neither will He do
evil. He is too merciful to visit His people in judgment. Thus 'Peace and
safety" is the cry from men who will never again lift up their voice
like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions and the house of
Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel
the just vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all
perish together." E. G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211. Ezekiel 22:23-31 on the
Literal Fulfillment of Ezekiel 9 23And the word
of the LORD came unto me, saying, 24Son
of man, say unto her, Thou art the land that is not cleansed, nor rained upon
in the day of indignation. 25There
is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion
ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and
precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. 26Her
priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have
put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed
difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my
sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. 27Her
princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed
blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain. 28And
her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, seeing vanity, and
divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath
not spoken. 29The
people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have
vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully. 30And
I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in
the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found
none. 31Therefore
have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the
fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith
the Lord GOD. Ezekiel 22:23-31. Is Ernie Knoll’s and Adrian Welsh’s Teaching
of a Cleansing of the Apostate SDA Church Serious Error? In the
typical literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9, Great
Controversy, Chapter 1, which records that fulfillment, says that false
prophets were bribed and hired by the leadership to tell the people that if they
wanted to be saved and safe they must remain at the Temple and that the Roman
Army would not penetrate the gates of the city. Of course that was a lie and
all who believed it remained in the city and the apostate church at Jerusalem
and were slaughtered and burned. Some of the more able bodied were taken to
Rome as slaves. In short, all who did not separate from the apostate Jewish
church to join the true church of Jesus and His disciples, were forever lost.
That will be the fate of all who believe what Ernie, Adrian, and SDA leaders
are teaching them about Ezekiel 9. Just as in the last literal Ezekiel 9
fulfillment, False prophets are telling SDA’s the same lie today. That is
another proof that Ellen White was right! It is all literal! Is this serious?
Below is
Adrian’s defense of Ernie Knoll’s dreams in his
book Prophetic Parallels between
Israel and Adventism. Chapter 17 Another Prophet? How to Test a
Prophet by Adrian Welsh If we want to avoid being
deceived by false prophets while remaining open to true ones, we must be
willing to test them according to the tests God has given us, not our own.
The Bible clearly teaches how we are to test a prophet. Some of these tests
include: “To the law and to the
testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is
no light in them.”812 The message of a true prophet will not contradict the
Bible or Spirit of Prophecy. “If there arise among you a
prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the
sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us
go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou
shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams:
for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God
with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the LORD your
God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye
shall serve him, and cleave unto him.”813 Miracles do not prove whether a
prophet is true or false. If a professed prophet tries to lead us away from
God, as revealed in His Word, we should reject them. “Beloved, believe not every
spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false
prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every
spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And
every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is
not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that
it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”814 This does not
merely mean Jesus was a human, but that He took upon Himself fallen human
flesh as was pointed out in chapter 12. “But the prophet, which shall
presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak,
or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD
hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the
thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not
spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be
afraid of him.”815 We must keep in mind that sometimes what a prophet says is
conditional even when they don’t realize it is.816 “Beware of false prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs
of thistles?”817 The fruit of a prophet’s ministry is proof of their calling.
This is revealed in different ways. In Noah’s day, very few accepted his
message, and only eight people survived the Flood. Elijah was rejected until
God vindicated him on Mount Carmel. We should not be looking for quantity of
fruit, but quality. Sadly, many have not followed
the Bible’s counsel on how to test a prophet before rejecting Ernie Knoll.
Instead, they use human reasoning to test his dreams and conclude that he is
a false prophet. When has our human reasoning ever been safe to trust? The
Jews used human reasoning when they rejected Jesus. They reasoned that if He
was not going to set up a literal kingdom and free them from the hated
Romans, He could not be the Messiah that was predicted to come. The high
priest Caiaphas falsely reasoned that, “it is expedient for us, that one man
should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.”818 The
leadership then sought every way possible to put Jesus to death. Many others
listen to what popular people have concluded and refuse to even consider
testing Ernie. Isn’t this how Jesus was treated? As you read the words of
Ernie’s critics, you can’t help but wonder about it being “proof” that he is
a false prophet. No one has yet proven his dreams contain error, even after
three and a half years of public ministry. It is true that many have accused
him of teaching error regarding the subject of tithe, but these accusations
are based on tradition and not on the Word of God. There is an excellent book
on Ernie’s website (not written by Ernie) that answers what many critics have
said about Ernie, including the tithe issue. It can be viewed at www.formypeople.org/the_truth/index.html
and is called the TRUTH, the whole TRUTH, and nothing but the TRUTH (referred
to as “the Truth Book”). The honest seeker of truth
will come away blessed after reading and comparing the dreams of Ernie with
the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy. They will find that Ernie, like Ellen
White, passes the Biblical tests of a prophet. He may fail man-made tests,
but these are only subjective and not reliable. Ernie Knoll’s Sin and
Repentance Probably the strongest reason
why so many are now convinced that Ernie is a false prophet is because of the
sin he fell into. It is true that his sin has in no way helped his
credibility. In November 2007, Ernie became discouraged because of the
opposition he was receiving. Instead of seeking God for his strength, he lost
his faith and made up an impressive story of a prostitute who had an angel
visit and was told to read his dreams. Ernie hoped this would convince people
his dreams were from God, and probably for a time, some were convinced.
However, truth cannot exist with falsehood, and eventually Ernie’s deception
was found out. His actions resulted in the collapse of his ministry and many
walked away from him. But a few remained, and determined to study the Word of
God for answers, as they could not accept the fact that Satan was responsible
for their renewed devotion to God. It was found that many of God’s prophets
failed at times to live an upright life. Commenting on this fact, Ellen White
wrote: “The pen of inspiration, true
to its task, tells us of the sins that overcame Noah, Lot, Moses, Abraham,
David, and Solomon, and that even Elijah's strong spirit sank under
temptation during his fearful trial. Jonah's disobedience and Israel's
idolatry are faithfully recorded. Peter's denial of Christ, the sharp
contention of Paul and Barnabas, the failings and infirmities of the prophets
and apostles, are all laid bare by the Holy Ghost, who lifts the veil from
the human heart. There before us lie the lives of the believers, with all
their faults and follies, which are intended as a lesson to all the
generations following them. If they had been without foible they would have
been more than human, and our sinful natures would despair of ever reaching
such a point of excellence. But seeing where they struggled and fell, where
they took heart again and conquered through the grace of God, we are
encouraged, and led to press over the obstacles that degenerate nature places
in our way.”819 819 Ellen G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 4, p.
12 Many feel that God could
forgive David for his heinous sin, and Moses’ moment of weakness where he
took to himself the glory of God, or Peter’s rash denial of Jesus, but they
feel that God cannot forgive Ernie because he willingly deceived people and
only confessed his sin after he was found out. However, the Bible plainly
reveals that Abraham lied to Pharaoh and Abimelech,
and yet God stilled called him a prophet.820 Jacob deceived his father to
secure the birthright, and yet God promised to bless him after he fled from
his brother.821 David repented of his great sin, and has been a source of
encouragement to many who fall short of God’s ideal, but many fail to realize
that David did not confess his sin until after Nathan the prophet rebuked
him.822 Ernie’s sin cannot be excused,
but his repentance and desire to live according to God’s commandments are
apparent. As with the prophets of old, the Holy Spirit has not sought to hide
Ernie’s sin. His dreams contain rebukes directed at Ernie and his sin is laid
open for all to know what he has done and gain encouragement from the fact
that, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our
sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”823 In the Truth book,
there is a chapter dedicated to his sin and repentance that provides further
information.824 Before Jesus was arrested and
crucified, His disciples trusted implicitly that He was the promised Messiah.
They were willing to lay down their lives for Him. They had believed that
Jesus was the Messiah, even when the leaders of the church refused to accept
Him and declared He was from Beelzebub. However, as they witnessed His death,
their hopes were shattered. All the doubts of those who rejected Him flooded
their mind until they were ready to admit He wasn’t the Promised One. As two
of His disciples traveled back to Emmaus, they confided with One who they
thought was a stranger and said, “But we trusted that it had been he which
should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day
is the third day since these things were done.”825 Their reply revealed their
deep disappointment and loss of faith. Little did they know the One they were
talking with was the One they had trusted! By the end of the day, their
disappointment was turned into joy and they exclaimed, “Did not our heart
burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us
the scriptures?”826 God often allows His people to
pass through a time of disappointment to prove them. This was the case when
the children of Israel came up to the Red Sea. It was the case in 1844 when
Jesus did not return as expected, and it was the case with those who had
accepted Ernie’s dreams. Should we have expected anything differently? Like
the disciples, the One who spoke with them caused their hearts to burn within
them. So the One speaking through Ernie’s dreams leads many to feel the same
and to know that Jesus is coming. As Joshua succeeded, but in no
way supplanted Moses, so Ernie is now being used to wake up God’s sleeping
people. He is directing them back to the importance of Ellen White’s writings
and the Bible so that they can be prepared for the greatest event this world
has ever witnessed—the subject of our next chapter. Adrian Welsh, Prophetic Paralles,
Chapter 17, Another Prophet? 819 Ellen
G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 4, p. 12 820 See
Genesis 20:3-7 821 See
Genesis 28 822 See 2
Samuel 12:7-13 823 1 John
1:9 824http://www.formypeople.org/the_truth/chapter10.html. 825 Luke
24:21 826 Luke
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