When Apostasy Reaches the Titer That God Says Not to Even Pray for His People

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In Jeremiah chapters 7 and 11, God gives examples as to when Israel’s apostasy was so grave that He instructed Jeremiah not to even pray for them. That situation connotes unpardonable sin apostasy which is so bad that Christ will not even answer our prayers of intercession to Him.


Certain independent ministries such as my own ministry, Omega Countdown Ministries, are saying that the church has committed unpardonable sin apostasy. Another ministry that has said this is Steps to Life Ministries, in the following document entitled None Dare Call it Apostasy, written by the late Dr. Ralph Larson and Dr. John J. Grosboll:




The object of this study is to look into the apostasies of Jeremiah chapters 7 and 11, to see if modern Israel has and is committing the same unpardonable sins so that God’s admonition not to even pray for the church is apropos or not.


As a prelude requisite to our study we must look at Isaiah 8:9-13, because those verses involve an act of apostasy that Ellen White says led to Israel’s rejection by God.


Isaiah 8:9-14 (King James Version)  


 9Associate yourselves, O ye people, and ye shall be broken in pieces; and give ear, all ye of far countries: gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces; gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces.


 10Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; speak the word, and it shall not stand: for God is with us.


 11For the LORD spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying,


 12Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.


 13Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.


 14And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.


Confederation or conspiracy with God’s avowed enemies is one of the most serious unpardonable sins listed in the Bible. Harlotry is remedial, but when a people play the harlot to the point of confederating or conspiring with God’s enemies, or taking counsel with Babylon, as Saul did with the Witch of Endor, that is one of God’s lines in the sand as pertains to unpardonable sin.


In connection with the words of Isaiah 8:9: “…broken in pieces,” see the marginal reading for the words “slaughter weapons in Ezekiel 9:2. It reads: “a weapon of his breaking in pieces. Another literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9 will occur at Jerusalem, the SDA church, because of it’s harlot forbidden marriage to Babylon.


"Study the 9th chapter of Ezekiel.  These words will be literally fulfilled; yet the time is passing and the people are sleep.  They refuse to humble their souls and to be converted. Not a great while longer will the Lord bear with the people who have such great and important truths revealed to them, but who refuse to bring these truths into their individual experience.  The time is short. God is calling; will you hear?" Letter 106, 1909.

Confederate and Conspiracy


The following definition of confederate is taken from an on-line unabridged dictionary at this link:




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con·fed·er·ate      /adj., n. kənˈfɛdərɪt, -ˈfɛdrɪt; v. kənˈfɛdəˌreɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[adj., n. kuhn-fed-er-it, -fed-rit; v. kuhn-fed-uh-reyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, noun, verb, -at·ed, -at·ing.



united in a league, alliance, or conspiracy.



(initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Confederate States of America: the Confederate army.



a person, group, nation, etc., united with others in a confederacy; an ally.



an accomplice, esp. in a mischievous or criminal act.



(initial capital letter) U.S. History. a supporter of the Confederate States of America.

–verb (used with object), verb (used without object)


to unite in a league, alliance, or conspiracy.

[Origin: 1350–1400; ME confederat < LL confoederātus (ptp. of confoederāre to unite in a league), equiv. to con- con- + foeder- (s. of foedus) treaty (see fidelity) + -ātus -ate1]


—Synonyms 3. associate, partner, cohort.

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As you see above, a meaning of confederate is conspiracy. In Jeremiah 11:9, Israel is cited for conspiring with God’s enemies. They confederated with them. They formed an alliance with them. They united with them to form an alliance. For so doing, God told Jeremiah not to even pray for Israel and if he did, God said He would not hear Jeremiah’s prayer. That is serious friend! Conspiring, confederating and making alliances with God’s avowed enemies is unpardonable sin. Those who imbibe this type of apostasy KNOWINGLY, will receive a shut door on salvation.


Confederating, Conspiring, Associating, taking Counsel with God’s avowed enemies, after hearing and understanding the Midnight Cry light and the Second angel’s message results in a closed door on salvation. Here is the proof:


Ellen White on Shut Door Apostasy


"I saw that in '44 God had opened a door and no man could shut it, and shut a door and no man could open it. [Rev. 3, Message to Philadelphia]. Those who rejected the light which was brought to the world by the message of the second angel went into darkness, and how great was that darkness." {1BIO 259.3}


"I was shown in vision, and I still believe, that there was a shut door in 1844. All who saw the light of the first and second angels' messages and rejected that light were left in darkness. And those who accepted it and received the Holy Spirit which attended the proclamation of the message from heaven, and who afterward renounced their faith and pronounced their experience a delusion, thereby rejected the Spirit of God, and it no longer pleaded with them." {1BIO 260.8}


So there you have the standard for God’s rejection of all who heard and understood the light of the first and second angel’s messages in 1844. If they rejected that light upon hearing and understand it, they experienced a shut door. Also, if they heard, understood, and embraced the message, and late rejected it, such ones experienced a shut door on salvation as well. This is so serious friend. What can I say to convince you that God is very serious in Isaiah 8:9-14? It is unpardonable sin for the church leaders to rejoin Babylon in violation of the second angel’s message and the Midnight Cry of 1844, which sounded and has been sounding since 1844. This is done by association, associating, taking counsel and council with, girding with, and/or conspiring or confederating with Babylon after knowing the truth Adventists have preached to the world since 1844.


The Midnight Cry Light


The Midnight Cry is spoken of in Matthew 25:6:


Matthew 25:6 (King James Version)

King James Version (KJV)

 6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

Ellen White said that the Midnight Cry gave power to the second angel’s message in 1844 and all along the pathway to heaven.

The Midnight Cry Gave Power to the Second Angel’s Message


Chapter XXIV. - The Second Angel's Message.

     “The churches would not receive the light of the first angel's message, and as they rejected the light from heaven they fell from the favor of God. They trusted in their own strength, and placed themselves by their opposition to the first message where they could not see the light of the second angel's message. But the beloved of God[1], who were oppressed, answered to the message, Babylon is fallen, and left the fallen churches.” {1SG 140.1}


     “Near the close of the second angel's message, I saw a great light from heaven shining upon the people of God. The rays of this light seemed bright as the sun. And I heard the voices of angels crying, Behold the Bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him!” {1SG 140.2}


     The midnight cry was given to give power to the second angel's message. Angels were sent from heaven to wake up the discouraged saints, and prepare them for the great work before them. The most talented men were not the first to receive this message. Angels were sent to the humble, devoted ones, and constrained them to raise the cry, Behold the Bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him. Those entrusted with the cry made haste, and in the power of the Holy Spirit spread the cry, and aroused their discouraged brethren. This cry did not stand in the wisdom and learning of men, but in the power of God, and his saints who heard the cry could not resist it. The most spiritual received this message first, and those who had formerly led in the work were the last to receive and help swell the cry, Behold the Bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him. {1SG 140.3}


     “In every part of the land, light was given upon the second angel's message, and the cry was melting down thousands. It went from city to city, and from village to village, until the waiting people of God were fully aroused. Many would not permit this message to enter the churches, and a large company who had the living testimony within them left the fallen churches. A mighty work was accomplished by the midnight cry. The message was heart-searching, and led the believers to seek a living experience for themselves. They knew that they could not lean upon one another.” {1SG 141.1}


"While praying at the family altar, the Holy Ghost fell on me, and I seemed to be rising higher and higher, far above the dark world. I turned to look for the Advent people in the world, but could not find them--when a voice said to me, 'Look again, and look a little higher.' At this I raised my eyes and saw a straight and narrow path cast up high above the world. On this path the Advent people were traveling to the City, which was at the farther end of the path. They had a bright light set up behind them at the first end of the path, which an angel told me was the Midnight Cry. This light shone all along the path, and gave light for their feet so they might not stumble. And if they kept their eyes fixed on Jesus, who was just before them, leading them to the City, they were safe. But soon some grew weary, and they said the City was a great way of, and they expected to have entered it before. Then Jesus would encourage them by raising his glorious right arm, and from his arm came a glorious light which waved over the Advent band, and they shouted Hallelujah! Others rashly denied the light behind them, and said that it was not God that had led them out so far. The light behind them went out leaving their feet in perfect darkness, and they stumbled and got their eyes off the mark and lost sight of Jesus, and fell off the path down in the dark and wicked world below. It was just as impossible for them to get on the path again and go to the City, as all the wicked world which God had rejected. They fell all the way along the path one after another, until we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus' coming....

By this time the 144,000 were all sealed and perfectly united. On their foreheads was written, God, New Jerusalem, and a glorious Star containing Jesus' new name." E.G. White, Word to the Little Flock, p. 14.

Notice these words: “Others rashly denied the light behind them, and said that it was not God that had led them out so far.”

These words were similar to the Israelites who protested that Moses had led them out too far from Egypt. What these modern Israelites are saying is that God has led us out too far from Babylon. So they begin to mingle with Babylon again. They play the harlot by having concord (agreement) with Babylon. This is the dating process. At first the church just dates the harlot of Babylon, and thus plays the harlot, which is not unpardonable sin. But this “dating process” leads to closer association, counsel and council with, girding, and finally conspiracy—confederation with fallen Babylon. The church dated the fallen harlot Babylon in Ellen White’s day:

"I have been shown that the spirit of the world is fast leavening the church. You are following the same path as did ancient Israel. There is the same falling away from your holy calling as God's peculiar people. You are having fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness. Your concord [agreement] with unbelievers have provoked the Lord's displeasure. You know not the things that belong to your peace, and they are fast being hid from your eyes. Your neglect to follow the light will place you in a more unfavorable position than the Jews upon whom Christ pronounced a woe." Testimonies, Vol. 5, pp. 75-76.


That was fair warning. Ellen White thus called the church a harlot in 1903, Testimonies, Vol. 8, p. 250, and warned that if she did not reform, she would come to abhor herself. That was indeed fair warning. Did the church heed that warning? Nay. The church continued counseling with Babylon. It sent pastors to get their PhD.’s in Babylon’s seminaries. They would come back and teach Babylon’s errors. Today, many aspiring pastors are taught in non-SDA seminaries all over the world. Ellen White said that only doctors and nurses should take their training in the institutions of the world because it was absolutely necessary at that time. But ministers have followed suit unnecessarily. It is not necessary for any SDA minister to get a PhD., at the risk of bringing to the church a mixed multitude of errors from Babylon’s ideology.


The Marriage of the SDA Harlot to the Harlot Babylon


Vance Ferrell, a former credentialed SDA minister, who left the profession because he felt that he could not be true to principle and be a minister of the church, has stated that he has information that the church has indeed made a secret agreement with the World Council of Churches and its various subsidiary organizations—the National Councils and the local Ministerial Associations, to not steal the sheep or members of other churches and evangelize only the unchurched. Vance operates a multi-million dollar independent SDA book ministry and if he was lying, you can bet the church would take him to task legally! Many folk send their tithe and offerings to Vance Ferrell’s independent ministry because he remains a member of the apostate church and says he does not call in or out of the church! The Bible says to say YEA OR NAY, but evidently Vance does not agree with God.


The above is serious hearsay, but there is hard evidence that the new movement masquerading as the Seventh-day Adventist church has married itself by way of confederacy to Babylon’s councils, counsels, associations, and confederacies in violation of the second angel’s message and the Midnight Cry, both of which have been sounding since 1844. Here is that hard evidence right from the horse’s mouth:





Now I ask you friend, why should some receive a shut door for violating the second angel’s message and the Midnight Cry in 1844, and SDA leaders and the corporate church is exempt today? Did God have one standard for 1844 and another for today? I tell you with every surety possible that all who are willfully, knowingly violating the Midnight Cry and the second angel’s messages today, receive a shut door on salvation just as surely as did those who rejected and/or later rejected the 1844 message to go out and stay out of confederacy with Babylon!

Also, in 1886, I purchased a book published from the World Council of Churches, entitled Directory Christian Councils.[2] In that book Seventh-day Adventists are listed as FULL MEMBERS in five different countries of the world, to wit:

·     Belize

·     Hong Kong

·     Sweden

·     Cook Islands

·     Bahamas

At the time, and currently, the SDA church was and is a member of the Free Councils of Churches in Hungary which is a MEMBER of the World Council of Churches. On page 244 of the book, it says that the World Council of Churches is in working relationship with the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. At the time I purchased the book, I called Dr. B.B. Beach, and he told me that the church was only observers.  He lied to me. My wife heard him on the other end of the phone. These types of leaders are not to be trusted.

God’s Commandment-Keeping People—Yes or No?

In the 1980’s Russia made a law requiring that all children attend school on Saturday, the Sabbath of the Lord. We know that we are to obey Caesar as long as it does not conflict with God’s law. What did SDA church leaders advise SDA Russian parents to do? You guessed it! They were told to send their children to school on the Holy Sabbath day. Alf Lohne, an SDA leader at the time, tells all about it in his book Adventists in Russia:

Adventists In Russia

Author Name: Alf Lohne Title: Adventists In Russia Binding:

Hardcover Book Condition: Good Publisher: Review And Herald

Publishing Association 1987 ...

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The true reformers Seventh-day Adventists in Russia went underground. They did not send their children to school on the Sabbath in violation of God’s commandments. Many of them suffered persecution and discomfort, but they would not bend to Caesar in violating God’s commandments. Can we conclude in light of all the above, which is only the tip of the iceberg as regards the abominations in the church, that the New Movement calling itself Seventh-day Adventist is indeed the commandment-keeping of God?


There are other serious abominations, such as accepting the World’s Accreditation Standards for our educational institutions in the early 1930’s. Satan would have no better track than education to get to our youth. There could be no better way to bring the world into the church and thus marry the church to the world. That has happened! And the consequences?


"The world must not be introduced into the church, and married to the church, forming a bond of unity. Through this means the church will become indeed corrupt, and as stated in Revelation, 'a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.'" (Testimonies to Ministers, p. 265.)


"Now it is just EXACTLY as in the days of the Jews. When a message came in, why all the power of the leaders [such some leaders on this forum] WAS PUT AGAINST IT, THAT IT SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE. Now, brethren, GO TO GOD FOR YOURSELVES, and on your knees plead with God...If God sends us light, let it come to us, and let no man close the door, or try to close it. Don't close it yourselves. Open the door of your heart and let the brilliant rays of light shine into your heart and into your mind. I pray you, let the Sun of Righteousness in." E.G. White, Manuscript Release #900, Manuscript 9, 1890. 1888 Materials, p. 541.


"The day of God is right upon us, and the world has converted the church. Both are in harmony, and are acting upon a short-sited policy" E.G. White, General Conference Bulletin, 1st Quarter, 1900. January 1, 1900 par. 10}


"The leaven if godliness has not entirely lost its power. At the time when the danger and depression of the church are greatest, the little company who are standing in the light will be sighing and crying for the abominations that are done in the land. But MORE ESPECIALLY will their prayers arise in behalf of the church because ITS MEMBERS are doing after the manner of the world." Testimonies, Vol. 5, 209, 210.


Here we have reference to "...when the danger and depression of the church are greatest..." This can only refer to the SDA church, because it is she who will experience such danger and depression.

We find a little company (remnant) standing in the light and they are not MEMBERS, because the MEMBERS are doing after the manner of the world, and if the little company were MEMBERS of the church, they would be doing after the manner of the world also! Come, let us reason together. We were given the ability and license to so reason.


Statements that USED TO BE Conditional Statements Concerning the Church


"If most earnest vigilance is not manifested at the great heart of the work to protect the interests of the cause, the church will become as corrupt as the churches of other denominations." Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 4, p. 513.


"We must as a people arouse and cleanse the camp of Israel. Licentiousness, unlawful intimacy, and unholy practices are coming in among us in a large degree...We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing our churches to become corrupted and filled with every foul spirit, a cage for every unclean and hateful bird, and will we be clear unless we make decided movements to cure the existing evil? E. G. White, Manuscript Releases No. 449, pp. 17, 18.


"If most earnest vigilance is not manifested at the great heart of the work to protect the interests of the cause, the church will become as corrupt as the churches of other denominations." (Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 4, p. 513.)


If Ellen White saw the church going through with a blanket approval, such warnings as stated above are superfluous, foolish, and self-contradictory.


"It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to unite with those who are corrupt, and still remain pure. (II Corinthians 6:14-15 quoted). God and Christ and the heavenly host would have men know that if he unites with the corrupt he will become corrupt." E. G. White, Review and Herald, Vol. 4, p. 137.


This statement is also foolish, superfluous and redundant, if we cannot judge what Ellen White brands as corrupt. If judging corruptness is only idle and ill conceived criticism, based on focusing on mere flaws, defects and weaknesses, then we should have remained with Rome!


"Any connection with infidels and UNBELIEVERS which would identify us with them is FORBIDDEN by the word. We are to come out from them and be separate. in no case are we to link ourselves with them in their plans or work." E. G. White, Fundamentals of Christian Education, 482.


Some have tried to tell me that by “unbelievers,” Ellen White means those who do not profess to be Christians. Read the following statement from Ellen White which discusses unbelievers and see if you can agree with me that Ellen White refers to those not of our faith as unbelievers!


Opening Church Difficulties to Unbelievers.—When troubles arise in the church we should not go for help to lawyers not of our faith. God does not desire us to open church difficulties before those who do not fear Him. He would not have us depend for help on those who do not obey His requirements. Those who truse in such counselors show that they have not faith in God. By their lack of faith the Lord is greatly dishonored, and their course works great injury to themselves. In appealing to UNBELIEVERS to settle difficulties in the church, they are biting and devouring one another, to be ‘consumed on of another’ (Gal. 5:15).

These men cast aside the counsel God has given, and do the very things He has bidden them not to do [initiate lawsuits in context]. They show that they have chosen the world as their judge, and in heaven their names are registered as one with UNBELIEVERS. Christ is crucified afresh, and put to open shame. Let these men know that God does not hear their prayers....Matters connected with the church are to be kept within its own borders. If a Christian is abused, he is to take it patiently if defrauded, he is not to appeal to courts of justice. Rather let him suffer loss and wrong. (3SM: 299, 300).


"I saw that since the second angel proclaimed the fall of the churches, they have been growing more and more corrupt. They bear the name of being Christ's followers yet it is IMPOSSIBLE to distinguish them from ...Satan has taken FULL POSSESSION of the churches as a body." E.G. White, Early Writings, 273.


If any church should link itself with unbelievers, we are to come out from them and be separate. The instruction is clear. Notwithstanding the SDA church’s' links with the ecumenical movement, it has linked in PARTNERSHIP with the Catholics at their hospital in Colorado. Every MEMBER of the church is responsible for this corrupt liaison with unbelievers. This act alone calls for separation.


"Worldly policy is taking the place of true piety and wisdom that comes from above, and God will remove His prospering hand from the conference. Shall the ark of the covenant be removed from this people? Shall idols be smuggled in? Shall false principles and false precepts be brought into the sanctuary? Shall antichrist be respected? Shall the true doctrines and principles given us of God, which have made us what we are, be ignored?.... This is directly where the enemy, through blinded, unconsecrated men, is leading us." E. G. White, Manuscript 29, 1890.


"The Bible Prophets Wrote for Our Time.--Never are we absent from the mind of God. God is our joy and our salvation. Each of the ancient prophets spoke less for their own time than for ours, so that their prophesying is in force for us. 'Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come' (1 Cor. 10:11). 'Not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven which things the angels desire to look into' (1 Peter 1:12).'" E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 3, p. 338.


Other Abominations that Result in Unpardonable Sin


What follows is a list of some of the most grievous abominations for which were are to sigh and cry and for which the church will experience another literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9 per Ellen White’s prophecy. These gross apostasy abominations are treated as mere “faults and defects,” and “molehills” by New Movement SDA apostates who defend the church against these violations of God’s Word. This list makes Joe Crews list of Creeping Compromises seem like mere faults and defects in comparison, thus fulfilling Ellen White’s Testimonies, Vol. 5, 211 statement that the leaders would NEVER AGAIN show the House of Jacob its sins. Some of them speak of a few of the sins, like Bryan mentioning a few, but they do not have the spiritual discernment to see many of the most grievous of apostasies of the church leaders and laity.


I don't deny that the Ford apostasy is part of the Omega of Apostasy. 


Fords apostasy is part and parcel to the different gospels being taught by SDA leadership. God said to accurse ANYONE, even an angel who should come with another gospel.  I believe that many current day leaders really embrace much if not all of Ford's theories. But in addition to that apostasy, there are the following abominations for which we are to sigh and cry and only those who do so will receive the seal of the Man in Linen, Ezekiel 9. None of these abominations are mere "faults, defects, and/or molehills made into a mountain."

  • The Celebration Movement--going to Babylon in search of the Holy Spirit.
  • Holding joint Easter Sunrise services with Babylon.
  • Ecumenical  Association, Counsel, Girding and Confederacy with Babylon in violation of Isaiah 8:9-13, as well as Jeremiah 11:9-15. This is God's line in the sand. He says not to even pray for those who do this KNOWINGLY.
  • Licentiousness amongst members and leaders relative to adultery.
  • Worldliness to the point that little difference can be seen involving money, fashion and sexual escapades. The church is still in the Laodicean state which Ellen White said is the foolish virgin state. This is serious!
  • All the specifications in 1SM 204-5. Books of a new order--teaching a false gospel. Our religion has been changed. Even George Knight admitted that SDA pioneers would not be members of the church today! Why? Because it is an imposter New Movement masquerading as the true SDA church. Ellen White would not be party to the absolute apostasy of the church today.
  • Adoption of the World's Accreditation Standards for all our Educational institutions. This was done by a few men in the early 1930's, without taking this serious matter to the General Conference in Session.
  • Going to Babylon to learn church growth methods when those methods involve worldly music, drama, theatricals and lewd dancing. (The worst dancing I have seen is on an SDA Video of a Celebration church Youth group at an Oregon campmeeting).
  • New Age Seminars have been taught at Loma Linda teaching one to search for the god within.
  • Inviting high placed Catholic leaders to speak at SDA General Conference Sessions which are supposed to be the voice of God to Adventists.
  • Loud music, shouting and drums and every uncouth thing at our campmeetings just before the close of probation. 2SM, p. 36.
  • Hypnosis used by those in the church who have departed from the truth in the church. An SDA dentist hypnotized an audience of Adventists. I will ask the person who told me this (who is a member of this group) to verify this incident. Ellen White said that those who have departed from the faith (not the church) would use hypnosis. Selected Messages, Bk. 3, pp. 411, 412.
  • An Elder in good standing at a Colorado SDA church, is teaching folk to tune into Greek and other spirit guides. He claims to be taught by "Thor," a Greek god. This is pure spiritualism. This is not a "molehill" violation. This is not a mere fault or defect!
  • GC leaders and ministers who divine lies especially about the ecumenical involvement of the church.
  • GC leaders instruction Russian SDA parents to send their children to school on Sabbath.
  • The sending out of over 250,000 copies of Ministry magazine in 1957, to non-SDA pastors, telling them the flat out lie that Christ took the nature of Adam BEFORE the fall. That voids His being an EXAMPLE to us.
  • Open, blatant, flagrant sin as Thorny Ground Hearers imbibe. This is not the same as tares whom Ellen White defines as insincere believers whose motives we would have to judge in order to uproot them from the camp.
  • Errant teachings regarding serious end-time events, such as Matthew 22, Daniel 8-12, and Revelation 13. For example, Doug Bachelor would have folk flee at the time the National Sunday Law is first implemented. Ellen White says that is the time to leave the cities for smaller towns preparatory to leaving for the mountains. The Sunday Law will not be enforced by penalties at first. It is as the judgments of God multiply in the land, and those judgments are blamed on His people, that the Sunday Law will be enforced by no buy and sell laws and even death.
  • Breaking God's commandments more than any other people, Ezekiel 5, just like the Jews did.
  • Violating the Midnight Cry by association, counsel, girding and confederacy with Babylon after being called out. This is unpardonable sin, for Ellen White says that it is then impossible to get back on the pathway to heaven. Word to the Little Flock, p. 14.
  • Misrepresentation of the character, personality, identity and Ellen White's definition of the Holy Spirit to the church and the world via the adoption of the Trinity Doctrine by a small group of men in the early 1930's, without taking such a fundamental issue (which Ellen White identifies as a Landmark doctrine) to the General Conference in Session for a vote. How many SDA's know that this is a LANDMARK, PILLAR DOCTRINE of historic Adventism?


Godhead as a pillar doctrine – Personality of God and of Christ Landmarks: "Those who seek to remove the old landmarks are not holding fast they are not remembering how they have received and heard. Those who try to bring in theories that would remove the pillars of our faith concerning the sanctuary or concerning the personality of God or of Christ, are working as blind men. They are seeking to bring in uncertainties and to set the people of God adrift without an anchor." {MR760 9.5}


"The leaven if godliness has not entirely lost its power. At the time when the danger and depression of the church are greatest, the little company who are standing in the light will be sighing and crying for the abominations that are done in the land. But MORE ESPECIALLY will their prayers arise in behalf of the church because ITS MEMBERS are doing after the manner of the world." Testimonies, vol. 5, 209, 210.


Obviously, if the little company standing in the light were MEMBERS, they would be included with those who are doing after the manner of the world when the danger and depression of the church is greatest--the time of the National Sunday Law.





I have had a college English professor, Bryan Bissell, tell me that the Midnight Cry of 1844 was for that day, not for our time! Can you believe that? And from the son of an SDA minister?! Ellen White said that the cry was to light the pathway all the way to heaven. If the first and second angel’s messages and the Midnight Cry, were only for those who heard them in 1844, that means SDA’s have been errant in calling others out of Babylon ever since! I just cannot believe what is emanating from educated professing Seventh-day Adventists, OR CAN I?


Are you corporately responsible for the unpardonable sin apostasies of the church? If you are aware of them, you are friend, and you are responsible for light when you hear it, as the example of the shut door in 1844 proved. And remember that Ellen White never changed her view on the part of the shut door that I have presented herein.


1Cr 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.


The example of Korah and party, teaches corporate responsibility for KNOW sin in the camp.  Ellen White makes that clear as well.


Corporate responsibility: "For evils that we might have checked, we are just as responsible as if we were guilty." Desire of Ages, p. 44.


"We are just as responsible for evils that we might have checked in others by exercise of parental or pastoral authority as if the acts had been our own." Patriarchs Prophets, 578.2


"The plain straight testimony must live in the church, or the curse of God will rest upon His people as surely as it did upon ancient Israel because of their sins. God holds His people, as a body [corporately], responsible for the sins existing in individuals among them." Testimonies, vol. 3, p. 269.


The very reason for every separation since Christ and His disciples separated is because of the principle of corporate responsibility. Ellen White merely applies the Achan principle whereby the entire camp of Israel was cursed until Achan’s sin was sought out and put out of the camp. He and his family were stoned and burned. Moses had 3,000 unrepentant individuals killed at the golden calf incident and upwards of fifteen thousand killed in the Korah rebellion. But since the days of Christ, and the rule of Caesar, separation from apostasy has been the correct duty. This has happened in every succeeding generation since Christ, Desire of Ages, 232. In that reference, you will find ONE REASON given for separation in every succeeding generation—the ecclesiastical leaders refused light. They either refused new light or to be corrected for their apostate errors.


"Christ was a protestant...The Reformers date back to Christ and the apostles. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. Luther and his followers did not invent the reformed religion. They simply accepted it as presented by Christ and the apostles." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 2, 48, col. 2.


Paul left


"And as they persisted in their rejection of the gospel the apostle (Paul) went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space for three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God. But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus." Acts, 19:8, 9.


"Fearing that the faith of the believers would be endangered by continued association with these opposers of the truth, Paul separated from them, and gathered the disciples into a distinct body." E.G. White, Acts of the Apostles, p. 286.


 "The recreant priests added licentiousness to the dark catalogue of their crimes yet they still polluted by their presence the tabernacle of the Lord, and, laden with sin, dared to come into the presence of a holy God. As the men of Israel witnessed the corrupt course of the priests, they thought it safer for their families not to come up to the appointed place of worship. Many went from Shiloh with their peace disturbed, their indignation aroused, until they at last determined to offer their sacrifices themselves, concluding that this would be fully as acceptable to God, as to sanction in any manner the abominations practiced in the Sanctuary." E.G. White, The Signs of the Times, vol. 1, p. 264, col. 3, December 1, 1881.


 "The Sanhedrin had rejected Christ's message and was bent upon His death therefore Jesus departed from Jerusalem, from the priests, the temple, the religious leaders, the people who had been instructed in the law, and turned to another class to proclaim His message, and to gather out those who should carry the gospel to all nations.

As the light and life of men was rejected by the ecclesiastical authorities in the days of Christ, so it has been rejected in every succeeding generation. Again and again the history of Christ's withdrawal from Judea has been repeated. When the Reformers preached the word of God, they had no thought of separating themselves from the established church but the religious leaders would not tolerate the light, and those that bore it were forced to seek another class, who were longing for the truth. In our day few of the professed followers of the Reformers are actuated by their spirit. Few are listening for the voice of God, and ready to accept truth in whatever guise it may be presented. Often those who follow in the steps of the Reformers are forced to turn away from the churches they love, in order to declare the plain teaching of the word of God. And many times those who are seeking for light are by the same teaching obliged to leave the church of their fathers, that they may render obedience." E.G. White, Desire of Ages, 232. 


God bless,








[1] The beloved of God was His bride, Philadelphia, Zion. She gave the call and all who accepted joined her procession as guests. See Christ’s Object Lessons, 405, 406 where the 10 virgins are awakened by the voice of God AND THE VOICE OF THE BRIDE.

[2] Unfortunately this book is no longer published, but I am willing to send photo copies to anyone who requests such. In 2007, I did contact the National Councils of those five countries mentioned, and was told that SDA’s are still members in those countries.