Testing New Movement Seventh-day
Adventism by Its Own Standards of Testing For a Cult
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Dear Reader, A detractor
of our ministry by the name of Teresa Quintero has publicly accused me of
advocating the teachings of the Shepherd’s Rod and/or the Davidians. This is
a gross untruth. Some Seventh-day Adventists believe that if one agrees with
God and Ellen White that Ezekiel 9 will be literally fulfilled again, they
are automatically of the Shepherd’s Rod/Davidian
persuasion. This could not be further from the truth in my case. On my
Website I have many documents stating what I believe to be errant about those
cultish sects, to wit:
https://omega77.tripod.com/answerstowalt2.htm https://omega77.tripod.com/kath1.htm https://omega77.tripod.com/kath2.htm https://members.tripod.com/omega77/uliciateres.htm Teresa went
to the SDA Biblical Research Website to find the following tests of a cult.
Surely it should be fair and of great interest and importance to apply the
very tests prescribed by the SDA
Biblical Research Institute to their own New Movement Adventism, as Ellen
White portrayed the new movement—new organization in Selected Messages, Bk. 1, 204-5. I will do that below. First,
Teresa’s post to SDAissues forum. ----- Original Message ----- From: teresa_q Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: [SDAIssues]
Re: Shepherd's Rod Teachings Shepherd's Rod Teachings
Ron’s
response: From: Ron
Beaulieu Sent:
Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:19 AM Subject:
Re: [SDAIssues] Re: Shepherd's Rod Teachings Teresa, Weigh your Sifting Truth From Error Questions
with the following statements by Ellen White, the Bible and the Omega of
Apostasy of the Seventh-day Adventist Church in 1957, as defined in the
following link: "The enemy of souls
has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take
place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist
in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and
engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this
reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth
that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church,
would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles
that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as
error. A NEW ORGANIZATION would be established. Books of a NEW ORDER would be
written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The
founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work.
The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created
it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the NEW MOVEMENT. The
leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but GOD BEING REMOVED,
they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is
worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest
would sweep away the structure. Who has authority to
begin such a [NEW] movement? We have our Bibles, we
have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy
Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is
not in harmony with this truth? E.G. White,
Selected Messages, Vol. 1, 204, 205. Let's apply the SDA
Biblical Institute’s Sifting Truth
From Error-Questions to Ask, to the above statement by Ellen White by
asking the following pertinent questions: 1.
Who brings in the supposition that a great reformation was to take
place AMONG SDA's? It was a handful of men in 1957, and primarily LESS THAN A
HANDFULF OF MEN--Froom, Anderson, Unruh and Read. 2.
Was there a heavy concentration on one or two main points? Yes
indeed--THE ATONEMENT AND THE NATURE OF CHRIST! But since all that one
believes clusters around these important two issues, the number of issues
involved is irrelevant! 3.
Does Omega Ministries concentrate on one or two main points? No. Our
Website covers every issue vital to true, pioneer Seventh-day Adventism. 4.
Did Leroy Froom, Roy Allen Anderson, T. E.
Unruh and William E. Read, distance themselves from the larger world body?
Did they take their apostate compromises of truth to the General Conference
in World Session? Nay! They bulldozed their apostasies through on the side! 5.
Did they separate from the pillars of the pioneers on these important
pillar doctrines involving the very Sanctuary Service? Yes they did! Did that
separate rob them and all who followed them--of the balance providing by
hearing the whole church and what it believed? Yes it did! Their separation
from the truth caused the greatest apostasy division there has ever been in
the church! Ellen White prophesied that there would be more danger from
WITHIN, and this occurred WITHIN--AMONG the members of the church. 1.
Did the promoters of the compromising, unpardonable sin apostasy
group of men emphasize impending danger to the point of creating a feeling of
DESPERATION? Yes they did. They warned of the impending danger of being
called a cult, when God said in Isaiah 8:9-14 not to fear their fear—meaning those
who operate in discordance with His Word! 2.
They did not build up hope and confidence in abiding in the TRUTH.
They fed on the terror of being called a cult and used this element to
persuade the members of the church to accept the great apostasy they imbibed
on behalf of the church. 3.
Was undue attention given to a few men instead of the General
Conference in World Session? Yes indeed! Primarily to three men! The same men
had a role in bulldozing through the World Accreditation Standards in the
early 1930's, and the adoption of the Trinity Doctrine--ALL WITHOUT EVER
TAKING SUCH IMPORTANT ISSUES TO THE GENERAL CONFERENC IN WORLD SESSION! 4.
Does the New Movement--New Organization, Selected Messages,
Bk. 1, pp. 204-5, urge all to accept UNCRITICALLY WHATEVER IT PROMOTES,
buttressed by a very carefully selected FEW BIBLE AND SOP
quotations as proofs?! Yes indeed. Out of over 1200 statements by
Ellen White, on the nature of Christ, they "cherry picked" only
eight and interpreted them so as to make Ellen White a self-contradictory
prophet by the others! 5.
Have the ancient men, those who were privileged with great light, 5T
211, imbibed unbelief and a willingness to believe TOO MUCH? Yes indeed! Too
much apostate error to the point that they committed unpardonable sin by
doing the same things apostate Israel did in Jeremiah 11:9-15 and Isaiah
8:9-13. 6. Did they apply the false
as lying so close to the track of error that no difference could be seen by
the shallow sheep followers? Yes indeed! 7.
Did they appeal to the drives of human needs by hype tactics to
market their apostasy by hyping up the BEING CALLED A CULT, and portraying
that as the all-important impending danger in order to get their way?! Yeah!!
Yeah! Yeah! Did they do all of the above on "SHALLOW EVIDENCE?"
Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! 8. Did they follow
"careful searching of His Word and the SOP, placing utter trust in Him
alone? Nay! Nay! Nay! Dr. George
R. Knight said: "Most
of the founders of Seventh-day Adventism would not be able to join the church
today if they had to subscribe to the denomination's Fundamental Beliefs.
More specifically, most would not be able to agree to belief Number 2, which
deals with the doctrine of the Trinity." George R. Knight, Ministry
magazine, October, 1993. Now, apply all the test
questions Teresa posted to the following statement: "The Sanhedrin
had rejected Christ's message and was bent upon His death therefore Jesus departed from Jerusalem, from the priests, the temple, the
religious leaders, the people who had been instructed in the law, and turned
to another class to proclaim His message, and to gather out those who should
carry the gospel to all nations. As the light and life of
men was rejected by the ecclesiastical authorities in the days of Christ, so it has been rejected
in every succeeding generation. Again and
again the history of Christ's withdrawal from Judea has been repeated. When
the Reformers preached the word of God, they had no thought of separating
themselves from the established church but the religious leaders would not
tolerate the light, and those that bore it were forced to seek another
class, who were longing for the truth. In our day few of the professed
followers of the Reformers are actuated by their spirit. Few are listening
for the voice of God, and ready to accept truth in whatever guise it may be
presented. Often those who follow in the steps of the Reformers are forced to
turn away from the churches they love, in order to declare the plain teaching
of the word of God. And many times those who are seeking for light are by the
same teaching obliged to leave the church of their fathers, that they may
render obedience." E.G. White, Desire of Ages, 232. 1.
Did Jesus give a heavy concentration on leaving the apostasy when He
gathered out those who would take the gospel to the world? I would think the
Jews would have required that since they were so bigoted about their
religion? Did Paul do the same? Did Jeremiah do the same, Jeremiah 11:9-15?
Jesus also proclaimed the true gospel to those He gathered out, and so have
I. Members on this forum can testify to that. We have spent weeks, months and
years on the true gospel versus the false in the new movement SDA church. We
have spent much time on the "highest good, crowning gift that heaven can
bestow," the Holy Spirit life and soul of Jesus Christ, as given as a
free gift to all who will receive it. 2.
I have given a careful pursuit of deep understanding that
transcends anything taught in your church, as regards the gospel and the
conditions for salvation. Has your new movement cult done that? 3.
Does Ellen White say that true prophets warned all true Christians
prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, of the impending danger? 4.
Did the ancient prophet's warn PRIMARILY of the impending danger and
encourage the people to "escape for their lives?" 5.
Ellen White says that the leaders at the apostate temple gave peace
and safety comfortings, saying that the Romans
would never penetrate the gates to the city of Jerusalem. 6.
Ellen White says that the dumb-dog watchmen of the omega of apostasy
New Movement--New Organization, dream only of peace and safety and will
NEVER AGAIN show the house of Jacob its sins, thus warning the people of their
duty to put sin out of the life NOW in the antitypical Day of Atonement. 5T
211. 7.
Ellen White made many appeals to the church as to what would happen
to it if it apostatized, but as stated heretofore, the church had not yet committed
omega apostasy in her day or she would have had much more to say! This is an
understatement! 8.
In regard to the reasons why every true reformer left the church of
his/her fathers in the above statement, was there an involvement of a heavy
concentration on one or two main points? The only point (reason given for
leaving) that Ellen White cites is that the leaders would not tolerate light? 9.
Have all the true reformers in every succeeding generation since
Christ, distanced themselves from the larger body of believers? Were they
robbed of the balance provided by hearing the whole "apostate"
church? 10.
Were the Adventists
of 1844, robbed of the balance provided by hearing the whole “apostate”
church? 11.
Were the Reformers
of the Reformation robbed of the balance provided by hearing the whole “apostate”
Catholic church? 12.
Is the True Reform movement among True Seventh-day Adventism the work
and ideas of one person, or are there many, even a number with their
doctorate in religion, and many SDA ministers who are proclaiming the warning
all over the world? 13.
True reformers welcome criticism and respond to ALL QUESTIONS which
are targeted to be against them. I have NEVER ONCE refused to answer
questions, but you Teresa, the members and leaders of your new movement have
often refused to answer clear and fair questions. 14.
Have SDA leaders FOR DECADES used VERY SELECTED "CHERRY
PICKED" BIBLE AND SPIRIT OF PROPHECY QUOTATIONS as proofs as to why we
should remain in an apostate church no matter what it does? Did the Jewish
leaders do the same thing? See Great Controversy, Chapter 1? 15.
This is indeed a perilous age of unbelief. UNBELIEF is exactly what
Ellen White accused the leaders of in 5T 211. The SDA Bible Commentary
says that the ancient Jewish leaders were virtual atheists. Ellen White said
that there will be a COUNTERPART to the apostasy of Israel, and apostate
SDA's are the only ones who qualify as a parallel COUNTERPART to apostate
Israel because both have the following in common: Claim be God's
commandment-keeping people. Claim to be God's remnant. Claim to keep God's
seventh-day Sabbath. Claim to have the gift of prophecy in their midst’s. 16.
True reformers have made no crucial decision based on shallow
evidence. New Movement Adventism has! They have imbibed apostasy based on the
shallow evidence that God does not see what they do; These
persons come to feel secure in their deceptions and, because of His
long-suffering, say that the Lord seeth not, and then act as though He had
forsaken the earth. But He will detect their hypocrisy and will open before
others those sins which they were so careful to hide. {5T 211.3} "The recreant
priests added licentiousness to the dark catalogue of their crimes yet they
still polluted by their presence the tabernacle of the Lord, and, laden with
sin, dared to come into the presence of a holy God. As the men of Israel
witnessed the corrupt course of the priests, they thought it safer for their
families not to come up to the appointed place of worship. Many went from
Shiloh with their peace disturbed, their indignation aroused, until they at
last determined to offer their sacrifices themselves, concluding that this
would be fully as acceptable to God, as to sanction in any manner the
abominations practiced in the Sanctuary." E.G. White, The Signs of the
Times, vol. 1, p. 264, col. 3, December 1, 1881. ·
What points did the ancient prophets of Scripture dwell on after Israel apostatized? Was there a
heavy concentration on the results of Israel's apostasy and the results if
Israel continued therein? ·
In the "recreant priest quote above, did the faithful think it
safer for their families not to come up to the appointed place of worship?
when many went from Shiloh with their peace disturbed, their indignation
aroused, until they at last determined to offer their sacrifices themselves,
concluding that this would be fully as acceptable to God, as to sanction in
any manner the abominations practiced in the Sanctuary. ·
Did the true believers distance themselves from the body of
believers? Yes! ·
Did that distancing make them a cult? No! ·
Did their separation rob them of the balance provided by hearing the
whole apostate church? No, because there is no balance in an apostate church!
God said that it is impossible to unity with the corrupt and remain pure! ·
Did the families who left to worship in their homes promote or
emphasize impending danger to the point of creating or feeling desperation?
Yes! Were they wrong in doing so? Obviously not! ·
Were they justified by the ancient prophets? Yes! Jeremiah was a
contemporary prophet in the days of Shiloh! Read Jeremiah 11:9-15, where God
enjoins the question: What hath my beloved (bride) to do in mine house
(church--temple) since she hath wrought lewdness with many. When she doeth
evil she rejoiceth! Celebrates! SDA's have done the very same thing after
they did evil, omega apostasy. Chap. 24 - The Seal of God "He cried also in mine ears with a
loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near,
even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand." {5T 207.2} And he called to the man clothed with
linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; and the Lord said unto
him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and
set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the
abominations that be done in the midst thereof. And to the others he said in
mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye
spare, neither have ye pity: slay utterly old and young, both maids, and
little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark;
and begin at My sanctuary. Then they
began at the ancient men which were before the house." {5T 207.3} Jesus is about to leave the mercy seat of
the heavenly sanctuary to put on garments of vengeance and pour out His wrath
in judgments upon those who have not responded to the light God has given
them. "Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily,
therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil."
Instead of being softened by the patience and long forbearance that the Lord
has exercised toward them, those who fear not God and love not the truth
strengthen their hearts in their evil course. But there are limits even to
the forbearance of God, and many are exceeding these boundaries. They have
overrun the limits of grace, and therefore God must interfere and vindicate
His own honor. {5T 207.4} Of the Amorites the Lord said: "In
the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the
Amorites is not yet full." Although this nation was conspicuous because
of its idolatry and corruption, it had not yet filled up the cup of its
iniquity, and God would not give command for its utter destruction. The
people were to see the divine power manifested in a marked manner,
that they might be left without excuse. The compassionate Creator was willing to
bear with their iniquity until the fourth generation. Then, if no
change was seen for the better, His judgments were to fall upon them. {5T 208.1} With unerring accuracy the Infinite One
still keeps an account with all nations. While His mercy is tendered with
calls to repentance, this account will remain open; but when the figures reach a certain amount
which God has fixed, the ministry of His wrath commences. The account is
closed. Divine patience ceases. There is no more pleading of mercy in their
behalf. {5T 208.2} [See Jeremiah
11:9-15 for case in point.] The prophet, looking down the ages, had
this time presented before his vision. The nations of this age have been the
recipients of unprecedented mercies. The choicest of heaven's blessings have
been given them, but increased pride, covetousness, idolatry, contempt of
God, and base ingratitude are written against them. They are fast closing up
their account with God. {5T 208.3} But that which causes me to tremble is the
fact that those who have had the greatest light and privileges have become
contaminated by the prevailing iniquity. Influenced by the unrighteous around them,
many, even of those who profess the truth, have grown cold and are borne down
by the strong current of evil. The universal
scorn thrown upon true piety and holiness leads those who do not connect
closely with God to lose their reverence for His law. If they were following
the light and obeying the truth from the heart, this holy law would seem even
more precious to them when thus despised and set aside. As the disrespect for
God's law becomes more manifest, the line of demarcation between its
observers and the world becomes more distinct. Love for the divine precepts
increases with one class according as contempt for them increases with
another class. {5T 209.1} The crisis is fast approaching. The
rapidly swelling figures show that the time for God's visitation has about
come. Although loath to punish, nevertheless He will punish, and that
speedily. Those who walk
in the light will see signs of the approaching peril; but they are not to sit
in quiet, unconcerned expectancy of the ruin, comforting themselves with the
belief that God will shelter His people in the day of visitation. Far from
it. They should realize that it is their duty to labor diligently to save
others, looking with strong faith to God for help. "The effectual
fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much." {5T 209.2} The leaven of godliness has not entirely
lost its power. At the time when the danger and depression of the church are
greatest, the little company who are standing in the light will be sighing
and crying for the abominations that are done in the land. But more
especially will their prayers arise in behalf of the church because its
members are doing after the manner of the world. {5T 209.3} The earnest prayers of this faithful few
will not be in vain. When the Lord comes forth as an avenger, He will also
come as a protector of all those who have preserved the faith in its purity
and kept themselves unspotted from the world. It is at this time that God has
promised to avenge His own elect which cry day and night unto Him, though He
bear long with them. {5T 210.1} The command is: "Go through the
midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads
of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in
the midst thereof." These sighing, crying ones had been holding forth
the words of life; they had reproved, counseled, and entreated. Some who had
been dishonoring God repented and humbled their hearts before Him. But the
glory of the Lord had departed from Israel; although many still continued the
forms of religion, His power and presence were lacking. {5T 210.2}
Jeremiah's
message to priests and people aroused the antagonism of many. With boisterous
denunciation they cried out, "Why hast thou prophesied in the name of
the Lord, saying, This house shall be like Shiloh, and this city shall be
desolate without an inhabitant? And all the people were gathered against
Jeremiah in the house of the Lord." Jeremiah 26:9. Priests, false
prophets, and people turned in wrath upon him who would not speak to them
smooth things or prophesy deceit. Thus was the message of God despised, and His
servant threatened with death. {PK 417.1} In the time when His wrath shall go
forth in judgments, these humble, devoted followers of Christ will be
distinguished from the rest of the world by their soul anguish, which is
expressed in lamentation and weeping, reproofs and warnings. While others try
to throw a cloak over the existing evil, and excuse the great wickedness
everywhere prevalent, those who have a zeal for God's honor and a love for
souls will not hold their peace to obtain favor of any. Their righteous souls
are vexed day by day with the unholy works and conversation of the
unrighteous. They are powerless to stop the rushing torrent of iniquity, and
hence they are filled with grief and alarm. They mourn before God to see
religion despised in the very homes of those who have had great light. They
lament and afflict their souls because pride, avarice, selfishness, and
deception of almost every kind are in the church. The Spirit of God, which prompts to
reproof, is trampled underfoot, while the servants of Satan triumph. God is
dishonored, the truth made of none effect. {5T 210.3} The class who do not feel grieved over
their own spiritual declension, nor mourn over the sins of others, will be
left without the seal of God. The Lord commissions
His messengers, the men with slaughtering weapons in their hands: "Go ye
after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have
ye pity: slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and
women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at My
sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the
house." {5T 211.1} Here we see that the church--the Lord's
sanctuary--was the first to feel the stroke of the wrath of God. The ancient
men, those to whom God had given great light and who had stood as guardians
of the spiritual interests of the people, had betrayed their trust. They had
taken the position that we need not look for miracles and the marked
manifestation of God's power as in former days. Times have changed. These words strengthen
their unbelief, and they say: The Lord will not do good,
neither will He do evil. He is too merciful to visit His people in judgment.
Thus "Peace and safety" is the cry from men who will never again
lift up their voice like a trumpet to show God's people their transgressions
and the house of Jacob their sins. These dumb dogs that would not bark are the ones who feel the just
vengeance of an offended God. Men, maidens, and little children all perish
together. {5T 211.2} The abominations for which the faithful
ones were sighing and crying were all that could be discerned by finite eyes,
but by far the worst sins, those which provoked the jealousy of the pure and
holy God, were unrevealed. The great Searcher of hearts knoweth every sin
committed in secret by the workers of iniquity. These persons come to
feel secure in their deceptions and, because of His long-suffering, say that
the Lord seeth not, and then act as though He had forsaken the earth. But He
will detect their hypocrisy and will open before others those sins which they
were so careful to hide. {5T 211.3} No superiority of rank, dignity, or
worldly wisdom, no position in sacred office, will preserve men from
sacrificing principle when left to their own deceitful hearts. Those who have
been regarded as worthy and righteous prove to be ring-leaders in apostasy
and examples in indifference and in the abuse of God's mercies. Their wicked
course He will tolerate no longer, and in His wrath He deals with them
without mercy. {5T 212.1} It is with reluctance that the Lord
withdraws His presence from those who have been blessed with great light and
who have felt the power of the word in ministering to others. They were once
His faithful servants, favored with His presence and guidance; but they
departed from Him and led others into error, and therefore are brought under
the divine displeasure. {5T 212.2} Conclusion The
SDA Biblical Research Institute totally fails to pass the test of its’ own
standards whereby the church’s members are to judge a cult or a sect or
anyone who separates from the same apostasy that true reformers have
separated from in every succeeding generation in order to be approved by God.
If you have any doubt that God’s people as a corporate body are judged on a
generational basis, read Jeremiah 11:9-15 on your knees in a spirit of
supplication to the Lord. rb
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